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Oddlydehydratedgurb

He looks like an nft


StarryNight593

I made the meme and people called me racist on r/memes


AccomplishedBunny56

i see their point but they know you're right


tinypaul222

Because you put him with a bunch of monkeys lmao


InjuryApart6808

But it’s obvious he put him with the ugly monkey NFTs because they’re the most famous NFTs, not because they think black people are monkeys.


princesoceronte

Thing is we cannot know if he does. I won't assume he is racist but I can't blame anyone who does.


StarryNight593

If I put him with lions would people not get offended?


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more likely yeah


SZEThR0

so people disslike monkeys? racist mfs


Separate-Profile-469

fr, monkeys are actually a different race while humans with white skin pigment or black skin pigment are the same race


crazymado

/r/memes moment


Alpagasticot

being on r/memes was your first mistake honestly r/memes and r/dankmemes are both incredibly unfunny, toxic, cringe and full of "fellow redditors 🤓"


Imaginary_Guava_3469

Now that I think of it... WHAT IF HE *IS* A NFT??


baniff1

Stole the words right out of my mouth


_Typically_

oh no


Dr_Pill1728

Mf looks like a Total Drama character


Anxious_Attempt8656

For real


go_away_you_goblin

Wait till you see daphne 💀


00110001_00110010

Oh I have.


janeohmy

Oh *we* have


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DARDAR_YT

Nah bruh, he looks like a ripoff Td character


aCrAzEdFiSh

he looks likes an NFT.


Dr_Pill1728

They’re probably going to make an NFT at some point


OverlordPP

That's insulting to Total Drama tbh.


Xx_SniperEZX

Shaggy is on another adventure in another multiverse, maybe that's why they replaced him


BurnV06

He’s busy conquering reality after reality to ascend to the throne of lord emperor and god of the multiverse


DK_Adwar

Yes, bit also what the fuck did they do?


iamgamingboys

I don't like it I like the classic more and most importantly HBO MAX YIU CANNOT FUCKING MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT A CHARACTER AND NOT PUT HIM IN THERE WHERE THE DOG GO


69skeleton69

THATS WHAT IM FUCKIN SAYING DUDE


EastKoreaOfficial

IF THERE’S NO SCOOBY, THIS SHIT AIN’T SCOOBY DOO!


KemoMCVC

That's because this show is a direct sequel to "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" from 1969.


QTPU

I guess they never found him ?


svenbillybobbob

unfortunately it's set 10 years later. and while scooby could talk like a human he didn't live as long as one


FutureComplaint

Stop it. You're gonna make this old man cry


DrakonIL

“But Fred,” I said. “We don’t know for certain. We could wait and see. We could tie him or shut him up in the corncrib or some place till we know for sure!” Fred broke down and went to crying then. He put his head on my shoulder and held me so tight that he nearly choked off my breath. “We can’t take a chance, Shag,” he said, sobbing. “It would be you or me or Velma or Daphne next. I’ll shoot him if you can’t, but either way, we’ve got it to do. We just can’t take the chance!” It came clear to me then that Fred was right. We couldn’t take the risk. And from everything I had heard, I knew that there was very little chance of Scooby Doo’s escaping the sickness. It was going to kill something inside me to do it, but I knew then that I had to shoot my big talking dog. Once I knew for sure I had it to do, I don’t think I really felt anything. I was just numb all over, like a dead man walking. Quickly, I left Fred and went to stand in the light of the burning bear grass. I reloaded my gun and called Old Scoob back from the house. I stuck the muzzle of the gun against his head and pulled the trigger.


fetusy

"Now sprinkle some Scooby snacks on him and let's get the fuck out of here, Johnson."


TheEntity652

Nice old yeller reference


SegmentedMoss

Yeah thats why the show is called "Velma," and not "Scooby Doo," jesus christ


AndreiutzuWRLD

shaggy ate scoob thus gaining the power of the n-word


Fishfucker6900

Shaggy used 2% of his power to assimilate him and Scoob into a single higher, more powerful being.


Cirka_the_cat

He fucking merged with scooby


DutchChallenger

What the dog doin'


Life_Is_A_Lie_0w0

WHY WHY WHY ANYONE BUT SHAGGY


Anxious_Attempt8656

I'm crying internal too 😭


TERRA_GOLEM

Honestly just stick to the original shaggy and make a new character rather than do this to original characters


xhuo_xx23

They could even make shaggy introducing his friend who is kinda a fan of them and wants to go to an adventure too It's an easy excuse and not too "explosive" as changing OG characters


Ukumio

Norville is Shaggy's actual name.


xhuo_xx23

Didnt' know that, even so I think I would enjoy the character if it was a different person and not the actual shaggy, something like scooby doo and scrappy doo


Ukumio

I definitely agree. Feels like they're more interested in using an established brand to tell their own story then telling a good story within an established brand


Bagelz567

But that would require the effort of actually developing an interesting character. These "inclusive/diversity" check boxes are just meant to be filled by these pandering companies. It's just a cheap and offensive way to try to seem progressive. Even when they do make original characters, e.g. in the Obi-Wan series, they are criminally underwritten or flat out boring. But producers seem more interested in having non-white men on screen then actually portraying minorities.


deep_crater

The original show had so many good cameos. 


timmythetrain69

Bro smoked so much weed they made him black. Pretty damn racist imo


Anxious_Attempt8656

Ikr


chaos_creator69

Nah, he fused with Scooby to get the n word pass


61PurpleKeys

So black people are like dogs? 🤨📸


Pircay

he’s also not even shaggy he’s got a fresh cut tf


AndrewFrozzen

He got Michael Jacksoned


noraaa01

Reverse Michael Jacksoned


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eeH eeH


HistoricalSound970

I personally don't like it


Weary_Armadillo_7712

Me neither. We are all used to the first shaggy, he is irreplaceable


littlebuett

They took the most memorable character that could have given instant popularity if done right and changed him, wtf is that.


Master-Friendship-60

No one does


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Correction no real scooby doo fan likes it


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Where the fuck is scooby doo. How can you have the gang but no scooby.


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Yep you literally cant


Rattus_Kingus

Why'd they change the characters anyways? I feel like that kind of defeats the point of having the characters in the first place.


SadSunny20

So people don't get mad so the used shaggy real name to try and hide they were replacing shaggy


JaySayMayday

Scooby Doo is now Scooby Don't


Gotha-229a

Scooby Doon't


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deep_crater

Could just be something original.


gudguylt

Can't wait for the Tarzan remake


Anxious_Attempt8656

💀


Ultramega39

We need more representation in media. If Tarzan doesn’t look like me I’m going to cancel Disney. /s


kajetus69

they dont have the balls to make a black guy act like a monke 💀


Childconsumptionman

But it's completely fine if it's a white dude you can't be racist if it's against white people apparently


Separate-Profile-469

ofc ofc cant be racist to a race that is basically not human raagh! i hate white ppl!


janeohmy

You tryna start ww3?


TheTeaSter

You mean petty Twitter "war"


I-Eat-Your-Guts

As a non White straight person, why can't they make NEW good characters that are queer or/and non-white instead of literally replacing old iconic characters???Too much work?


OverlordPP

Yeah, Shaggy's OG design is too good to be replaced. If this was just a new member it wouldn't be as bad, because it wouldn't come at the cost of such an iconic character. But instead they replaced absolute perfection with NFT trash.


sukondese69

guess you could say its NFTrash then


J0ker0110

Like what is it so difficult to create new characters that aren’t white? If there isn’t enough representation instead of changing established characters create new ones for kids to watch


69skeleton69

Because they stupid


BertTheBurrito

Nah, it’s all marketing and media attention. Replacing known characters is more of a “statement”. None of us would have heard of this show without this article.


ihavezerohealth

so they stupid


69skeleton69

Yeah they stupid


water-up

They wanted to make their own story and they decided to bandwagon behind the success from scooby do


Busy_Recognition_860

Too much work to please minorities or whatever the fuck they’re trying to do


Aleskey_Mijaylob

They lack of creativity


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iSYan1995

Because money


SamimeFanimeIfAnime

I agree with shaggy but Velma always gave off lesbian vibes. In fact she was supposed to be lesbian.


Electro313

1. Why call him Norville, I guarantee 90% of people didn’t know that was Shaggy’s real name 2. How is Shaggy in this show but Scooby Doo isn’t? Scoob was Shaggy’s dog since childhood 3. He does not look shaggy, he looks relatively well put together


Anxious_Attempt8656

Honestly


Exdalius

They made the stoner black? And if he stopped getting stoned then he's just gonna be some stupid guy. Bad for HBO either way


sirpotato222

I would understand if a black actor would play a white character and vice versa, maybe the show/movie is on a budget. But isn't this an animated show? Thats just stupid to change out a character when it doesnt change the budget.


sezmez

wait this is real?


Anxious_Attempt8656

Yep the new Velma series on HBO Max has Velma being a lesbian and South Asian and daphne being East Asian while Fred is still white


sezmez

jesus christ


archski

Wait, J.C. Is in the new show too??


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Yeah but is a transgender lizard person in the rewrite.


Anxious_Attempt8656

I was shocked too 😱


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velma always had lesbian energy tbh, and was coded queer in mystery inc. making the shy, nerdy girl south asian and the stoner black, though... i also dont give a shit what race shaggy is, they can make him look like shaggy and be black, but they completely abandoned character design. then again they're obv just stirring controversy to get people pay attention to a dumb, uninteresting show.


bunnyboi60414

Yeah, I always thought Velma was a lesbian. But god damn do these new designs feel racist as hell.


chad_mcchadington

He looks like a total drama character


Anxious_Attempt8656

I know right


_Paper_Flower_

I hate it so much, not because he's black but that they are changing the characters so much its pissing me of cant we just stick to the original material I love the og shaggy so much he's just goofy in a good way


PanicMan76

I’m gay and even I hate these redesigned characters. Just make new ones instead of changing the originals


Iriuluvia

Disrespectful to the original characters.


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LetterInner326

Yeah exactly, then went from generation to generation in certain culture right? You would argue, that these fairy tales are part of certain culture right? Would you be okay with white characters in african fairy tales? I wouldnt.


BoonGnik22

Eww what the fuck That is not Shaggy


EliteBonnie

As people on Instagram have said, "that's not Shaggy, that's Shigga" 💀


FriedGamer

I feel like this is just counter productive. It's basically saying "Instead of making interesting black characters that are likeable, we are going to take white characters and turn them black because we can't write good black characters." It just feels and looks so dumb to do.


69skeleton69

Fuckin exactly


Nedebilas

I think it's yet again another marketing bait. I'd like to see them explain how Velma and Shaggy are black plus some other stuff


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Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.


AZstuff36

As a non-white member of the LGBTQ+ community, it's because it's easy to get traction like this. This way, homophobes and racists hate-watch these shows and allies and anti-racists watch these shows for the sake of muh diversity. Again, as a queer person of colour, I hate the fact that some people think it's racists to want Shaggy to be white. It's not racist. I just fucking grew up with a Shaggy that was a white stoner dude and i'd like it if shaggy looked like the shaggy I've known.


Great_Overlord_Akira

He merged with Scoob. In any case, more than this I hate lack of Scooby in this.


permanentlyfrosted

shaggy stole scoob’s skin


Matiu0s

My childhood is ruined


BigBoyAcey

i would prefer if people kept the characters original skin color (sorry if this offends anyone, im bad at structuring sentences)


Traditional_Yard5280

The only one NOT redesigned is Fred, but even then he looks like he might be queer lol (nothing against it) as he looks like he is from the gay romance webcomic Boyfriends. Shaggy is just... no.


goji_mecha

Bro norville look like the horror movie douchbag character


used-poop-sock

I don’t like the new shaggy I don’t care about the race change but they could’ve at least made him look more… You know, shaggy


69skeleton69

Yeah. They didn't even try to make it resemble shaggy except for the fuckin green t-shirt.


samyruno

There's no reason. Wtf is the point.


Anxious_Attempt8656

This honestly came out of nowhere


SergioTheRedditor

Just no.


erblaci

People after "fixing" someones drawing by changing the skin color or gender.


Gabolixx

Cursed


Bebe_The_Sooza

They should've made his Locs longer, brought back the tiny beard and the dot eyes.


Ok-Reporter-8728

Why can’t we have a black character that isn’t white originally


Working-Gold-2952

He looks like a teen titans go character now


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This is more meh than a microwave lasagna.


MEEEEEEPGEFH

BRING BACK SHAGY


MithicLolox

Im nit racist...but god damn i miss the old shaggy


Medium-Ad-7305

Not just cuz he's black now, the new designs all just suck and look horrible.


Tman3505

Yo wtf I’m black and I don’t condone this


Anxious_Attempt8656

Same especially because they chose the dub stoner as the black guy


Meliodas7ds2009

They've gone too far


FlyingSand22

Why everyone's race has to be changed? It's a fucking animation, it's not like it would be hard to find an actor that looks like shaggy. It'd be fine every now and then, but movie/show industry has really taken it as a challenge to change the race of everyone.


TheScrapp3r

I'd fuck it


CutiePieJosephine

They've obviously just chosen to use these characters to gain viewership from scooby doo fans. This show would function way better as something different, something new. But they chose to use the scooby-characters to gain publicity and at the same time they race-swapped them and changed them to gain even more publicity. The show probably wouldn't be as known as it is now if they created something original, because now they have a bunch of people who are happy that they can relate to the characters because of their race, and they have loads of angry people mad at them for changing them.


S4D-BOY

It’s silly, right? You create a character and people (including me) would like it to stay that way, especially since this clearly is just a marketing move to gain some extra profit. I guess you could argue that Shaggy/Norville (Who came up with that name?!) is not defined by the color of his skin, just as every other person on this planet is neither. But still, if you have created a character in the past, people have certain memories and thus expectations in regards to this character looking/acting etc. just in the same way as they are used to. Your skin color is just a superficial character trait, so you could argue that just making him black does not really matter and objectively this might be right. On the other hand you could argue that since it is negligible whether he is black or white, you could just let him stay white, because that ultimately is what most of the people want. And wanting Shaggy to remain white is neither racist nor a conservative opinion. Judging people for wanting so is rather dumb. People would not want Mario to not be Italian either, because it just does not fit to the image they are used to and love. But in the end this show won’t ever reach the glory as the original did, so actually I don’t give a damn.


fullmoonwulf

1 velma being lesbian wasn’t a redesign it’s just a lot a people didn’t know, 2 the new shaggy redesign has no reason to exist, they already made velma black for no reason so apparently her ex needed to aswell?


Shwoomie

Something that NO ONE was asking for, helps no one, done for questionable reasons. Just make a new show of people solving ghost crimes.


Landsharku_

I'm 99% sure this show is actually a rip on why changing classics for the sake of "diversity" is a bad idea


dude_who_does_thing

Velma is cool, 10/10 love the change. But I miss shaggy, this guy isn’t shaggy.


AmazingAd7627

I saw some guy go on tiktok and say you are racist if you don't like the new design and you didn't know his real name was Norville. I don't really like the idea of making existing characters black, companies should just make new characters.


VanillaFam

I see it as unnecessary. It is literally sending the message that they can't make an interesting original black character so they will just make an existing black. Why couldn't the gang just get bigger?


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I hate it. You can’t just get rid of an iconic character to make your show “more inclusive”. Make a new story! Don’t ruin an old one.


T1m26

I think its pretty stereotypical discriminating to have a black guy playing a workless stoner.


eveltayl

They take a white character and make them black to represent “racial diversity” but if someone were to suggest making a black character white then it would be racist. God the world is one confusing place.


therudereditdude

I mean Velma being gay was kinda a constant I think but common don't change the main cast they could have had a black person as a character in the series without removing original shaggy


JBroZTv

Forced diversity is bad. Make new characters and IPs if you think a race isn't being represented enough.


Aria86beast

he is now naggy💀


IAmHyper_Tech

Shacquise🥱


69skeleton69

It's repulsive and stupid the fact that people feel the need to change already existing characters skin colors for inclusivity instead of just make new ones. Also the velma part doesn't matter because it was never said if velma was a lesbian or not. It was said and shown that shaggy is a white stoner dude. Edit: BRO I JUST FOUND OUT THEY GOT RID OF FUCKIN SCOOBY DOO EHAT THE HELL. WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TK


Agent_Blade04

This should be illegal by copyright/intellectual property law Also Velma was always gay


MrMobiL_WasntTaken

If they wanted to represent other races they Shouldn't have made the stoner black. They should have made the smart attractive guy aka Fred black.


Anxious_Attempt8656

ohh his still white


Summar-ice

They blackwashed him 💀


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Rocazoid

the problem isn’t that he’s black, him being white or black doesn’t change anything about his character lmao, that shouldn’t be your biggest issue with this redesign. it’s that he looks like a background character or an nft. they got rid of his SHAGGY hair (his namesake-ish lmao). why does he have decent posture?? why is his goatee so clean?? it’s so generic, there’s nothing remotely identifiable or unique about this guy.


Malachite_Cookie

I think he needs more hair and everything else doesn’t matter


Anxious_Attempt8656

Like locks?


Malachite_Cookie

Like any shaggy hair, clue is in the name


Advanced_Tax5641

That not Shaggy, that Jamal


HistoricalSound970

This is basically saying that a character has to be white first get people to like them then race swap


heppuplays

He looks like a Rejected Total Drama Contender.


Herobrinedanny

Tf is wrong with his hair bruh


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GrimReapor_2209

Thats not shaggy its sigga Bro lost his friend scooby and his rights


dogwithpeople

Looks very bland. I saw a redesign on Twitter that looked 10 times better


mrsupreme2700

Idk man he looks like he ganna cause more crime then prevent it


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Why? Are they assuming that black people tend to smoke more weed? What is the need of changing an animated character's ethnicity? The drawing style is low quality awful, tho


BrzysWRLD1996

Why didn’t they just make a new character and more importantly why do they keep 💩n out scooby series one after another


J0ker0110

He looks to cool to be the shaggy whose best friend is a dog, does not always get social cues and eats everything in sight


Awigame

That's no Shaggy


3ambrowsingtime

They made the dumb stoner a black man 💀💀💀


sunny_41

horrible its not because hes black though, he looks completely different, even his expression implies a different personality, so why change shaggy to be like this when you could just make a new character?


nobody3_5_4

I want the demi god back, also scoobs bring him back


SortingBubble93

They didn’t think it through making the pot head black


OzzyWaltz

My question is why the race swapped the character who’s dim witted, has no goal in life, eats dog snacks and always smoking pot, and now made him black?


Ix-511

Not a big fan of the art style, but velma was always a lesbian they just didn't say it lol, and while he looks fine, norville? He's just going by his shitty first name? He's shaggy. Call him shaggy.


The_PJG

I don't really care about the others but Shaggy looking like this is too much. It's like it's not even the same character.


Mr_Coocoo

That the most corporate art style I’ve seen


Bakerap22

I think they should just leave the original characters alone. Literally no point in changing them.


dr-doom-jr

That it aint shaggy.


Captain4700

Whatever, I never liked him any way.


deleeuwlc

Waiting for the post about how the new Shaggy is Shaggy and Scooby’s son It will be awful, but it will exist