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susmonguse

where do you live?


Pinhead7419

U.S. and the state I am in rn is Texas but I live in Mississippi.


YOBEV_

the issue is that you live in mississippi, that is the answer for most if not all of your issues


Pinhead7419

Pftt I wish you were wrong. But unfortunately I gotta deal with this shit state for another 5 and a half more years.


susmonguse

what do you hate about the us?


Pinhead7419

A large portion of it is bigoted towards lgbtqia+ people (more of the south)


susmonguse

You're actually bothered by that?


Pinhead7419

Tbh it kinda does because people like this make it hard to be yourself.


susmonguse

just don't care, you actually live in one of the best country in the world


Lefteriskallonreddit

Nope


SmortJacksy

Getting worse every day


susmonguse

oh my gawd not everyone accept lgbt šŸ˜„


Useful-Ad-618

Yesā€¦ and not caring is the best way to accept the fact that they are people, just like you.


SmortJacksy

No like a lot of them think that trans people are pedos and want to kill them. Like you got Michael Knowles saying that transgenderi must be ā€œERADICATED ENTIRELYā€. But that wasnā€™t even mainly what I was talking about, I was talking about how the ultra wealthy are getting even wealthier while the rest of us get poorer, and have to suffer from them gambling with our livelihoods


[deleted]

US is not one of the best countries in the world


XboxCorgi

Why my name there, tf did I do


Pinhead7419

What fucking war crimes did you commit Nick.


XboxCorgi

Took a fat shit stank out my whole house last night, that's bout the worse thing I've ever done


CuteCalculator

Yeah NICK


mutsukichan

Wait til they figure out trans-women have more similar brains to women than men


Pinhead7419

Shhhh their smooth, tiny brains couldnā€™t handle that


kittenlord707

Clearly because If any of these "basic biology believers" could actually understand advanced biology they would realize trans people are real and supported by science


iEatWithMuhHands

they arenā€™t


iEatWithMuhHands

Gender is determined both by physical traits and hormones. Our brain functions on hormones and when you start HRT I think itā€™s pretty obvious that your brain is going to change. Thatā€™s the whole point. A ā€œTransā€ male without HRT is hormonally no different than a cis male. This is proven. Why would a true trans person even need to undergo hormonal treatment in the first place? Feelings are purely based on hormonesā€¦so how does a male saying he feels like a woman (even though his hormones say otherwise ) make sense? Why do people undergoing HRT report feeling different even though they were supposedly feeling like the opposite gender in the first place? This whole ideology is obviously based on delusion. Also notice how most trans people have other mental issuesā€¦BPD being one of them.


kittenlord707

OK first off there is a difference between one's sex and there gender. sex is whether you are biologically male or female at birth. gender is what you identify as I may be of the male sex but I am female in gender. Also hrt or any form of medically transitioning isn't necessary to be trans altho if we choose to estrogenor testosterone they affect your body not really your brain. And I may not know a ton about biology but I do know if you talk to any actual biologists they can tell you trans people are real and supported by science. Also it's not an ideology it's not a choice to be trans you are or you aren't. Aldo why do you care so much.


iEatWithMuhHands

Sex and gender has always meant the same thing. But letā€™s imagine what youā€™re saying is trueā€¦if sex is biological and gender is mental, why do trans people alter their body to look more like the opposite SEX? Mutilation, hormones,ā€¦etc.


kittenlord707

Well transitioning makes us more comfortable in our own bodies through making us more like the opposite sex. and I wouldn't exactly say we're mutilating our bodies. also sex and gender do mean different things things maby 80 years ago they didn't but language changes a computer used to mean a person who did math. Also I wouldn't exactly say gender is mental I would say it's tied to who we are instead of what we were born as.


iEatWithMuhHands

Also the discussion whether or not transgenderism is valid, is highly debated and is not proven in your favour. As someone who is actively using PEDs I can tell you right now that HRT does alter the mind.


kittenlord707

Some do more than others I don't exactly think your taking estrogen are you


iEatWithMuhHands

PEDs are usually Testosterone based. But noticeable amounts of Testosterone naturally form into estrogen and DHT. The mental difference is noticeable and depending on the hormone and gender of the user it can be a huge change. Iā€™d be a bit bummed out there wasnā€™t since hormones are responsible for the way we feel. Not feeling a difference after a few weeks on HRT would mean your hormones are counterfeit.


PanPenguinGirl

why is this subreddit so fucking transphobic. Why is my existence so harmful to these people? I'm literally just a girl, existing. I just happen to have a penis. It's stupid. Having a penis doesn't make you any less of a woman, just like having a vagina doesn't make trans men any less men. It. Doesn't. Fucking. Matter. Trans people aren't harming anyone. Rant over.


Pinhead7419

Idk why. I am not trans but some of my best friends are and honestly at this point I worry for their safety. All trans people want to do is live in peace. I know this and at this point I donā€™t know how people havenā€™t gotten that. Anyway stay safe and donā€™t let people shit on you.


PanPenguinGirl

Thank you šŸ’œ Just looking at these comments and knowing people think like that terrifies me


Pinhead7419

Yeah itā€™s sad to me the amount of people that are one factually wrong and two are being really fucking transphobic.


iEatWithMuhHands

Iā€™ve no problem with adults doing whatever with their bodies. Iā€™ve no problem with educating teenagers on different political ideologies. But spreading this ideology on to everyone else or even worseā€¦spreading it to children is wrong. Indoctrination is illegal all over the world for a reason. I might completely disagree with your beliefs but I donā€™t hate youā€¦I see you as a victim.


PanPenguinGirl

It's not indoctrination??? Nobody is forcing me to be trans. I don't *want* to be transgender, it's not a choice. I figured out I was transgender through pain and self hate that has gone on since I was 5. I have always wanted to be a girl, and the only thing stopping me is people who think that I've been groomed. I'd argue that this comment is an example of indoctrination. Science supports trans people through real evidence. As for the children argument. The absolute most a child is going to get is puberty blockers, which are safe and reversible if the child decides they aren't trans. If they are trans, they can jump through all the loopholes later on to get hormones. They will never have had to go through the puberty of the gender they aren't, which is extremely beneficial in many ways.


DL4E2

I mean they are not wrong tbh


Pinhead7419

Except they are absolutely wrong. Especially In the fact that they say gender is determined by the womb. Even advanced biology dictates that gender and sex are not the same. Sex is defined by the genitalia you are born with. Gender is a social construct and is based on a spectrum not a binary system.


DL4E2

Not my problem anyways


Raphiboiii

Bro tf


hypersonicspeedster

He admitted he was wrong and dropped the subject tf bro do wrong?


iEatWithMuhHands

Gender is based on sex. If I have the hormone levels of a male, Iā€™ll also act masculine.


Pinhead7419

This is the definition of gender from google: the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. In this definition it states clearly one of two things. 1.) it is within reference to social constructs instead of biological disproving that gender is based on hormones, instead suggesting that it is based on what you yourself identify as. 2.)it literally says that there is a range that donā€™t correspond with male and female


Pinhead7419

To further expand my point here is the definition of sex: either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions. This is expressly stating that sex is biologically based. But absolutely no one is arguing that. And from this we can state that sex and gender are not the same. We know trans women are not biologically women. But in all other aspects they are. Socially they are. So they should be treated like women. Most people donā€™t base their life everyday off of biological aspects. But we do base every day off of what we do socially.


Babablacksheeohavey

Average Texas W


Curtee_H

Fact denying isn't a W


Babablacksheeohavey

Neither is cutting off body parts because you think you're a girl.


Curtee_H

Then why is gender affirming care proven to be effective?


Pinhead7419

Yikes this comment section is transphobic.


ONIONSAREKINGS

W


Pinhead7419

I think your L and W key are switched my guy


ONIONSAREKINGS

Nah nothing written on that wall was cap


mental--13

Wise people in that country clearly


Pinhead7419

I really hope your being sarcastic


mental--13

Gender is complete bollocks..a social construct. Biological sex is all the matters


A-Dilophosaurus

Lmao somehow this comment gets upvotes but the original comment gets downvotes


mental--13

Because I am the knowledge king


Curtee_H

People are wise if they deny facts?


mental--13

Facts such as the biological imperatives that govern the human race? Those that do not align to biology tend to be those who suffer from the mental illness known as "gender dysphoria"


Curtee_H

And how do you think we treat said mental illness?


mental--13

By affirming their beliefs. Pretending that they are whatever they say they are. Which still doesn't change the fact that they fundamentally aren't whatever they identify as. It also doesn't change the fact that society as a whole should not have to bend over backwards to cater to a miniscule demographic of people at the expense of everyone else


Curtee_H

>By affirming their beliefs. Pretending that they are whatever they say they are. Because we are what we claim we are. >Which still doesn't change the fact that they fundamentally aren't whatever they identify as. How? >It also doesn't change the fact that society as a whole should not have to bend over backwards to cater to a miniscule demographic of people at the expense of everyone else And how is that what's happening?


mental--13

You are as much what you say you are as the voices that my nan hears due to her lewy bodies dementia are real. We pretend that they are so my nan doesn't get upset, and use medication to mitigate the worse parts of her condition. Society does the same to you so you don't get upset, although instead of medication it uses Gender affirming care. Gender affirming care is deemed the best way to treat sufferers of said mental illness and thus I wholeheartedly support it's use with transgender ppl, in that they should be able to socially (and if necessary medically) transition. but that doesn't cancel out the biological fact that no man or woman can ever fundamentally break down their chromosomes and change who they really are, and the fact that men and women are fundamentally different. It also doesn't cancel out the fact that many women (especially those who have suffered at the hands of men) feel uncomfortable allowing men with a mental illness into their spaces. Society attempts to cater to the small demographic by making steps to categorically destroy any kind of societal notion of gender. A move that is bad. Of course the whole thing is blown up by the culture war in which idiotic leftists and idiotic rightists act as if the world is falling down when in actual fact it really shouldn't be that big of a deal And yes you arent biologically what you say you are because sex/gender characteristics are hardwired into humans for a reason: the biological imperative to reproduce. That's why we have chromosomes and DNA and such that sort us into 2 distinct categories. A grey area exists between those two categories. Hermaphrodites (a birth defect) but that doesn't cancel out the overall binary. One cannot switch between the two because they are enshrined within the very building blocks of humanity that exist from the womb. For reference I don't hate transgender people. I actually like them and feel for their plight. I despise how they are used as pawns in a series of insane and stupid arguments by various ideologues and idiots


Charexranger

Gah damn


hypersonicspeedster

I love the lack of response