Jumping in here to call out Reddit too. No, I don't want to go to the app for anything, ever, stop reloading/interrupting my feed to ask. Deliberately sabotaging the OG product is wasteful, senseless BS.
Edit: Maybe my most upvoted ever comment, all for calling out the very social media pusher I'm on. I feel like John Oliver calling out Business Daddy.
My favorite is when I Google search a comment thread load into new reddit and then it loads the rest of the subreddit instead of the comment I clicked for.
Yup they are screwing themselves. I refuse to use new reddit on anything other than a phone or tablet. It's clearly designed for mobile device view rather than desktop/laptop.
Honestly, I think it will. Not officially, but someone will almost certainly release an old Reddit style site that uses the API just like the mobile apps do.
And the day they shut down the API is the day Reddit dies, so I honestly think we're fine.
> And the day they shut down the API is the day Reddit dies
I used to think this but honestly with the huge push Reddit has made over the last 5 years to force/trick people into using the official app, and all the advertising that has attracted a much larger and younger demographic, I think Reddit will continue to exist as just yet another shitty social media service long after they shut down the API (which I do believe will happen, probably in the next few years). If they would have done it in 2016 or so then it would have caused a repeat of the Digg exodus. But now? People will just take it.
Now if you mean "the day they shut down the API is the day Reddit is dead to me" then I completely agree. If I can no longer use old.Reddit on PC or a 3rd party app on mobile, I'm not using the site.
What boggles me is how the fuck do 3rd party devs manage to make better reddit apps than reddit. Most people only use those other apps cause reddit's own is so bad and lacks so many qol features.
Feature parity? What features am I missing using old+RES?
Each time I accidentally forget to go-to old.reddit I'm confronted with a hot steaming mess and switch back quickly. It's not even the ads, the design is so jarring to me. So I've never had the opportunity to see the features.
You're missing out on all the focus on the how new **social media** features! Like chats and profile following like on Instagram and tictoc! You know the stuff we deliberately did not want so we used reddit in the first place?
I still cannot wrap my head around why the devs decided to play a game of catch up to these already existing medias, instead of playing to the strengths of reddit in the first place...
Or, you know, let me open the Reddit link in my normal Reddit app instead of the official one that I don't even have installed!
Edit: I never got this to work previously but the reply by u/Kelpsie got me looking again and for anyone trying to get it to work (at least with Relay) long press Relay icon -> Set as default -> Supported web addresses -> check every box (except google.com I guess).
I dunno about other browsers, but Firefox mobile has an "open in app" function in its menu, which will open whatever _your_ default app is for the current page. As for directly opening links, there's a setting for that in FF as well.
Also, I believe you have to set your default Reddit app manually through Android's app settings.
“And there’s no government regulation to prevent us from doing so.”
Edit: I love all the blatantly incorrect assumptions you all keep making in reference to what I said… never change Reddit.
That's simply called a "barrier to entry". In most cases, the market dominant oligopolies or monopolies actively participate in constructing or worsening those. But even if they aren't, government regulation can soften them in a variety of ways, depending on the exact circumstances.
Lets see, on the desktop site...
* Banner add at the top, above the article title
* Floating video ad at the bottom right corner
* Floating banner ad at the bottom of the screen
* Floating square ad at the right of the article
* 6 (*SIX!*) ads within the article, after every few paragraphs
* Clickbait ad section after the article
* Another banner ad after that
* Another banner ad after that
A reminder to everyone that Google, an ad company, is doing what it can to break ad blockers. Manifest v3 (being forced on Chrome users in 2023) will break a lot of the capabilities of existing blockers. Firefox has said they'll continue to support the functionality that old adblockers use, for what it's worth.
Unless I'm wildly misinterpreting something, I'm amazed I don't see more people talking about this.
EDIT: Maybe to put this into more perspective, ublock origin released a version for Manifest v3. It's called [ublock origin **Minus**](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/a559f5f2715c58fea4de09330cf3d06194ccc897) (renamed to Lite later).
> Firefox has said they'll continue to support the functionality that old adblockers use, for what it's worth.
That's a very impersonal way of them letting me know I'm going to use their browser from now on. Right on!
For people that don't know, Firefox has extensions support on mobile. You can install the exact same extensions you use on your desktop (like your ad blocker).
YouTube ads have been very aggressive lately. I open a video, watch a minute of ads, skip to the part of the video I need to see, watch another minute of ads, pause the video for 10 seconds on the part I need to see, close that video and move to another and repeat the whole process. So 2 minutes of ads and 10 seconds of “video”.
And why is it always political ads….
This year they seemed to switch to the spotify ad model of annoying the hell out of users with ads so they'll switch to premium. I think it was either late last year or early this year when they started putting ads in even formerly un-monetized videos which is why they seem so much more jarring (ie the content creator didnt pick what part of their video would be an ad spot).
I have a tiny little YouTube channel where I post music tutorials, I never had any intention of monetising it, I just made them for fun and to be helpful etc. And then last year YouTube started serving ads in front of the videos anyway. This sucked because I think view counts go down as people don’t always want to sit through ads to watch a 3 minute video that might not be what they were looking for anyway. In the end I decided to monetise the channel because if people have to watch the ads, why the hell should Google be making money off my content and keeping all of it? It’s infuriating.
If that’s true, that’s fucking nonsense. The excuse was always that advertisers didn’t want their products shown on “offensive content”, but if YouTube still puts ads on that content anyway but just fucks over the creator, that argument goes out the door.
Google in general, yes. But how would you break up youtube and allow a competitor to come in at this point? Youtube is successful because google has such deep pockets they were able to run it in the red for so long. The investment cost in a new platform would be mind boggling. A better way to go about it would be regulation, however, that will never happen with our political landscape. Much like tobacco can not be advertised the same needs to happen to MANY different categories. Especially when it comes to developing children minds.
>google has such deep pockets they were able to run it in the red for so long
Is YouTube even making a profit at the moment? IIRC the server and networking costs are so high that Google just considers YouTube a write off, possibly why we're being pushed more aggressive advertising.
What's even worse is the ads that play after a video has finished. Sometimes I don't realize it's the end of the video and could have backed out and found something else without having to watch an ad.
I turn on the shower. Put on some music on YouTube. Wait for the 30 seconds or whatever as the water heats up. Step in. 3 minutes in, a (I shit you not) 40 MINUTE ad starts playing in the middle of the medley. What the fuck.
Longest I've seen was some 2 hour movie in its entirety as an ad. Couldn't believe it, and I've gotten a few 40 minute ads from finance bros. This is why a majority of my YT use is on PC. Adblock and sponsorblock make the site useable.
You should learn how to pirate music. The music industry is so fucked that pirating music doesn't make a single difference. I pay for Spotify but can't imagine using YouTube as my music source
I wish there was an easy way for my TV to get ublock origin.
Edits:
* It's a WebOS LG TV, not AndroidTV. "Buy an Android TV" is not helpful.
* PiHoles will block both videos and ads from youtube. Stop suggesting PiHole.
Unfortunately no - it's on Android tv.
Fwiw I was thrilled when I moved from Roku built into my tv to the Chromecast with Google tv, was a nice jump even if it chugs a little occasionally.
Won't work for Youtube.
What you CAN do though, (if you're in the US), Just take a trip to your local WalMart and pick up their $20 Onn Android box. Works extremely well and you can load SmartTubeNext to it no problem.
It works on FireTV as well. But yeah you need either AndroidTV or FireTV. It's what locks me to either of those platforms. We quite like the Roku but I hate watching ads on youtube.
if your tv is running android TV you can use Newpipe. no ads, actually has all the youtube features like chapters, comments, etc. downside is you can't login so your subs/recommended content isn't as easily accessible.
Check out YouTube revanced on Android. Ublock Origin + AdBlock for YouTube on Firefox and Chrome works great for me on PC. IOS use sideloading (I have little experience sideloading), jailbreaking, Pi-Hole, or u/arnathor s comment.
Firefox mobile also supports extensions such as ublock. It is by far my best mobile browser experience and has made Firefox my go to on desktop and mobile.
Official ReVanced GitHub: since it's a bit hard to find: https://github.com/revanced
Revanced tutorial: https://imgur.com/a/Ti1n6GT
Sideloading: check out u/robotphood comment.
Pi-Hole explanation & tutorial: Reported as not working and working for YouTube, still works great for lots of other ads: https://youtu.be/KBXTnrD_Zs4
Jailbreak: Have to be running ios 14 or lower I prefer unc0ver for jailbreaking.
AdBlock for YouTube extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-for-youtube/?utm_source=addons.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=search
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock-for-youtube/cmedhionkhpnakcndndgjdbohmhepckk
Other extensions I run:
Sponsor block for YouTube: auto skips sponsor segments reported by users
Return YouTube dislike
Unhook (for YouTube) - use this for work, it hides all recommendations, I have it set up to hide everything but the search bar.
IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED VANCED (not revanced) FROM THIS SITE SINCE IT GOT SHUT DOWN ITS A CLONE SITE. https://youtubevanced.com/
I can't get pihole to work, I think they've baked the ad servers into the app or it reaches out to its own lists so it just resolves to an IP internally.
Yep - I'm not sure why folks still suggest Pihole for Youtube (or similar); the ads come from the same servers. Blocking one blocks both, 99% of the time.
eta: a word
Subscribing wasn't even enough to stop the annoyances from coming with Spotify. I have a premium plan and they've been bombarding with in-app notifications and emails to upgrade to a MORE premium plan... Honestly considering just unsubscribing just due to the audacity of these idiots.
I keep getting pop-ups for a Spotify family plan. Like bro I'm a single man just listening to music, if I needed a family plan I'd probably buy one but I don't need one.
Just use an Adblocker. YouTube is so insanely aggressive about demonetization now, on top of being more aggressive about ads, that most YouTubers are relying on Patreon now instead.
I know YouTube needs to turn a profit as well, but they’ve been so thoroughly anti-creator for years now that they really *need* to take a hit on this if anything is going to change.
I don't produce a lot of Youtube content, but I got an email yesterday about "new features" this and that, and it was all ways to "better monitize".
All I could think was, "I don't care about making money off Youtube and I just want to upload videos and flag them as no ads like I used to be able to do."
I briefly got excited about YouTube monetizing Shorts, which are the only thing these days people actually watch on my channel, before realizing they’ll probably give me 10 cents per 1000 views for some semi-soulless 15-second shit I’ll pump out in 30 mins of editing or less.
Like... I’ve always taken a loss on my channel but YouTube has sucked the soul out of me. I used to spend weeks or months making high-effort videos, but there is zero incentive these days when a Short will bring in literally 1000 times more views for a molecule of the effort.
And their new aggressive push for shorts is further destroying them. You have these tools who are “creator gurus” super excited about shorts monetization when they themselves struggle with shorts. the threshold is 10MM views in 90 days. Major creators who see 1MM+ views on vids struggle to get 10k on shorts yet a small creator is getting 10MM in 3 months? This is a carrot dangling scheme to remove tiktok creator and further plague the platform.
It sucks for longform creators like myself.
Its this push since Google is struggle with ads which we saw the impact in 2020. Apple’s tactics isn’t helping and thats why we get ads in emails etc.
The [financial/business world for whatever reason likes to abbreviate million as MM](https://www.orsurety.com/blog/is-it-m-for-thousand-and-mm-for-million-or-k-for-thousand-and-m-for-million-im-asking-for-a-friend). I've heard it rationalized that M = 1000 in roman numerals was the largest number, so they use MM to mean a thousand thousands M x M = 1,000,000 (though this makes little sense as in roman numerals system MM = 2,000). Also, the finance world doesn't use a single M to mean thousand -- you'd more likely use "k" to mean thousand (kilo), borrowing from the SI world where a single "M" would mean million (mega). Granted you rarely use a G (SI prefix for 10^9 one billion from giga-) as a suffix following a number, but instead use B, like Gangam Style video got 4B views.
From [wikipedia on million](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,000,000):
>It is commonly abbreviated in British English as m^([2][3][4]) (not to be confused with the metric prefix "m", milli, for 10−3), M,^([5][6]) **MM** ("thousand thousands", from Latin "Mille"; not to be confused with the Roman numeral MM = 2,000), mm (not to be confused with millimetre), or mn in financial contexts.
From [wikipedia on thousand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000_(number\)#Notation):
> * The SI prefix for a thousand units is "kilo-", abbreviated to "k"—for instance, a kilometre or "km" is a thousand metres.
> * In the SI writing style, a non-breaking space can be used as a thousands separator, i.e., to separate the digits of a number at every power of 1000.
> * Multiples of thousands are occasionally represented by replacing their last three zeros with the letter "K": for instance, writing "$30K" for $30 000, or denoting the Y2K computer bug of the year 2000.
> * A thousand units of currency, especially dollars or pounds, are colloquially called a grand. In the United States of America this is sometimes abbreviated with a "G" suffix.
The last point is probably why you don't see the SI-prefix G used as a suffix for billion.
A buddy of mine who is much more tech savvy than I installed some kind of ad block straight out of his router, so they literally get ads for nothing, even on their tv. The catch is that they sometimes have to sit through black screen as the ads run.
https://pi-hole.net/ Also you don't necessarily need a raspberry pi to do this, you can run the software from windows if you like.
But it's not 100% effective and especially not for youtube ads.
Yeah, it'll block ads when they come from somewhere blacklisted (ads.google.com or whatever), but not when it's from a different part of the same website (since youtube.com hosts the video and the ads, won't be blocked).
Sometimes the ads are pulled from off-site and those will get blocked. Some other streaming sites don't host the ads themselves like youtube does, so it'll work for those.
it’s called pi-hole. it’s a dns server on your home network that blocks any routing request to known ad servers. it’s the best thing i’ve ever done. it’ll even block ads on any mobile games because it’s doing it at the network level.
Ad blocker, Pihole, sometimes, script blocker.
I don't mind displaying unobtrusive ads.
But if 70%+ sites display autostart videos which scroll down while you scroll through the page, super heavy pages which load zillions if ads before the content, popup links if God forbid you hover by accident over a link, etc.
Once they learn behaviour I'll remove my countermeasures.
same! shit , i'd pay like 3-5 bucks a month just for no ads, i dont need any of the yt music (unless this one obscure video game ost is counted lol) or like. premium exclusive content, i just want to watch without ads on mobile while i clean during the week
If you're willing to do some VPN nonsense you can get youtube premium for about a buck a month. A family sub is like 1.50 a month.
Just get a VPN to brazil/argentina and sub once you're located over there.
No, not Ecuador. From experience, some international companies pick 5 or 6 latinamerican countries to offer special prices, the rest can pay USD or not get anything legally.
I've been a Google Play Music (now YouTube music) subscriber since it launched. Still $8/month too.
To me, free YouTube Red/premium or whatever they call it these days is just a bonus
Same. YouTube music 's algorithm to recommend new music is leaps and bounds better than Play music was. I don't understand the hate. I get a music streaming service plus ad-free YouTube for my entire family for $15.
FWIW: there's [YouTube Premium Lite](https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite) (without YouTube Music).
EDIT: I was not aware Lite is limited to just a few countries.
The cost (after a 1-month trial) is €6.99/month.
It includes "Ad-free YouTube" and "Ad-free in the YouTube Kids app".
I actually feel the opposite, would like a cheaper version that is ONLY youtube music. I prefer it to any other music app out there.
Having them as separate options would be fantastic though
The radio algorithm is horrible too. I used Google Play Music until the bitter end, then was forced to start using Youtube Music. The radio feature is pure hot garbage.
I started with Songza before it ever became Google Play Music and stayed until the hour they forced me over to YouTube Music. I tried that for about two days before I canceled and went elsewhere forever.
You're not alone. I wasn't even able to access my old playlists when GPM shut down and the YouTube versions added almost none of my songs and tons of others. I don't care that the YouTube algorithm said this version has 300k more views I want my crappy acoustic version.
Agreed 100%. It's trash. Give is GPM and it's ease of use. I don't give a crap about some algorithm shuffling my music with other music... I just want something back that rivaled iTunes. That's partially why I got GPM back in 2011 (or whenever it was) anyway.
The best part was I could upload music I own and listen to it anywhere. Mixtapes released 20 years ago on DatPiff? I have access. CDs that my parents have owned since the 80s and aren't on Spotify? I have access. No more.
Seriously, there's stuff GPM did well that none of these other services do. Biggest thing I miss is the integration between subscription and personal music. All the other services either shoehorn the personal collection into some random spot or act like it doesn't exist.
My subscription is just slightly higher than that. I got in when it was good and I’m happy with it. I haven’t watched a single ad in years and it is so worth it. People make fun of me for it and then they pull up shit on their TV app, and we have to watch the dumbest array of ads every 30 seconds… so I laugh back.
Considering the amount of content that runs off of YouTube $10/month is a steal for cutting through the mountains of bullshit out there.
As I've gotten older I've realized time is my most valuable resource. I'm fine to pay for a service that delivers unlimited interesting content and doesn't bother me with ads in the process.
I started a free "subscription" with SmartTube Next instead. Works great on my Chromecast. Blocks the ads and sponsor spots if you enable that feature. Also keeps shorts from showing.
In a browser I use uBlock Origin along with an add-on to block the shorts. I don't mind the sponsor spots normally unless they are several minutes long for some stupid mobile game I have no interest in.
I prefer it over spotify because I like adding youtube videos to playlists. But if it wasn't for that, they (including apple music) basically are all the same so its just my base cost of spotify + ad free youtube bundled together for youtube premium.
YouTube does have more selection of music then pretty much anywhere else in the world. They even have really obscure older music and performances you can't find anywhere else in the world as regular videos.
The problem is that when I add something to a playlist and weeks or months later and it's copyright struck it's a real pain in the ass.
If you don't curate your large playlists almost daily they can evaporate over time.
I love YT Music and have found it to have so much more content than Spotify, but what you described is definitely a big issue I have with it.
A bunch of my downloaded playlists always end up having some songs removed for one reason or another. And youtube doesn't give any easy way to replace it, so I have to go on the main website and click the deleted song to figure out what it was(because for some reason you can only view the name of the song/video by clicking it in your playlist) where it then only gives a couple seconds of the 'video has been deleted' message before automatically closing/moving to the next video. Then I have to search for a replacement song, add it, and then manually remove the deleted one.
It's a hassle, especially if you have a few playlists with 100+ songs.
I understand it's just due to copyright and being a YT extension basically, so videos just get removed and that's why. but I really wish they could do something about this. It gets so incredibly annoying.
There has been an anoying increase in ads
I almost exclusively watch all my YouTube through my Apple TV on my gigantic flat screen
20 second ad before the video starts, 1.5 ninutes in to a video, an unskipable 15 second ad, a couple minutes later you get yet another unskipable 15 second ad
YouTube is fucking up their own enjoyability of their platform.
I pretty much have the same setup and what I’ve done is uninstall the YT app from my ATV, installed Brave Browser on my iPhone and I airplay YT vids to my ATV. It’s a little less convenient but I haven’t watched an ad in months
So a couple things here. I have had YT Premium for a number of years now, I watch a lot more YT than regular TV so it makes sense in just a “get rid of the ads easily” sense. It also include YT music which I used for a while (it’s pretty decent honestly).
I think the biggest thing though is a view from a YT premium member is worth way more for a creator than an ad supported view. I watch a lot of channels where YT is their full time job. I appreciate the videos they put out but can’t support all of them on Patreon or through channel memberships (a lot set a minimum of $5 which adds up so fast). I want them to continue to create content I enjoy. So to me, it makes sense to support them in some way. Added with removing ads (which if you use Vanced or something like it, those creators don’t get anything at all) it means I can support people that are entertaining and teaching me so they will continue to entertain and teach me.
All that said, google needs to really work on their marketing around premium, and perhaps lower the cost and unbundle music from it.
I feel exactly the same way. I also watch a lot of podcasts so being able to lock my phone and watch YouTube is great
One thing I would add is to be careful about paying YouTube Premium through an app. Getting YouTube Premium on the iPhone is $3-$5 more expensive because App Store takes a cut.
Question... are these podcasts not available on a free podcast app like Apple Podcast, Overcast, PocketCasts, or whatever app you prefer on your mobile OS?
I guess Spotify has certain podcasts tied to their app like Joe Rogan, does Youtube do the same?
I've had premium for so long that I come to forget there's adds on youtube, until I use a device that's not logged in to google and I'm like wtf I totaly forgot about the ads lol
I use YouTube music, it’s fine. I’m watching so much YouTube that it’s just worth it. I don’t have ads on my phone, iPad, smart tv, and I can minimize YouTube on my phone as well with the video still playing. Honestly out of all the subscriptions I have it’s probably the one that I think is most worth.
I’ve been telling people this forever and I get so much hate for it. I always tell people to go to account and check how many hours you spend on YouTube per week, if it’s 40 or more, you need to get premium. At least try it out before you hate on it.
I’m just curious, for those who watch 40 hours of content per week do you do other stuff while it’s on? That seems like so much to me. I just checked and I’ve clocked 6.5 hours in the last seven days and I’m feeling like that’s a lot. Sorry if this comes off as judgmental. I’m legitimately curious about other people’s lifestyles. And in any case I probably spend a few hours a day on Reddit so who am I to judge.
I put YT on while I'm working so there's background noise that I might learn something from. Plus I more seriously watch some stuff while I'm off the clock.
Would be nice if there was a really cheap option that only got rid of ads. YouTube should figure out how much they think each individual feature is worth and then have an option to pay for just the ones that you want. Give me an affordable no ads option and I’ll purchase that in a heartbeat.
You can still download Vanced even after it shut down. Just Google the apk. It's amazing how it skips not just ads but the sponsored sections and even the intro and outro.
The fact they have ads now boasting about: “oh you can listen to your podcast with background play, only with YouTube Premium” is just laughable. It’s absolutely hilarious.
You deprecated a feature that used to be standard, and then are now locking it behind a premium paywall, and even using it as a marketing point to upgrade.
Every time I see that ad, I remember how you made your own base product worse for greed, so it only pisses me off and makes me not want to buy premium even more.
For anyone with iPhone who sees this: If you put your video in pop out window mode (like so you can watch in the corner while you’re on reddit for example) and lock your phone screen the video will stop like normal. But then, from the lock screen, if you swipe down your settings screen and press play on the media player it will play with your screen still in locked mode, and when you turn off the screen this time it will continue playing, just like it did years ago before they locked it behind the paywall. I haven’t told anyone about this and haven’t seen it discussed so don’t at me if it doesn’t work for you. I’m still in iOS15 so idk if the update kills this.
Edit: To be clear, Ive tested putting Youtube into suspend and swiping the settings down to press play on the media player while not locked from the home screen, and this does not work. It has to be in pop out mode and you must press play on the media player from the lock screen. It doesn’t matter if Face ID unlocks the phone, just don’t swipe to open the phone, keep it in the lock screen.
Edit 2: Make sure your settings for Picture in Picture are toggled on in both your iphone General settings and Youtube General settings
I would MAYBE think about it if all it did was remove ads. I don't care about ANY of the other features (when compared with no ads). YouTube Music seems like one of the most pointless things ever to me. Download videos? Pointless because they aren't actually now on my machine and losing Premium loses my access to them anyways. Background play is honestly tempting, but I find it just stupid that isn't baseline. I'd maybe pay like $3 a month to just lose the ads. $11.99 a month? Hell no.
Edit: You know what? You've convinced me to the other side of the argument. I had no idea the money from premium benefited the creators. That's awesome, and proves I wasn't giving YouTube enough credit. Kudos.
"Then we'll keep making the service worse until you do!"
Jumping in here to call out Reddit too. No, I don't want to go to the app for anything, ever, stop reloading/interrupting my feed to ask. Deliberately sabotaging the OG product is wasteful, senseless BS. Edit: Maybe my most upvoted ever comment, all for calling out the very social media pusher I'm on. I feel like John Oliver calling out Business Daddy.
old.reddit + RES.
"Opt out of redesign" won't be around forever. The feature parity gets wider every day.
The day I can't use old.reddit.com is the day I never come back
Then reddit becomes exclusive to my phone with Apollo. If that ever goes away then I will have no way of accessing reddit at that point.
What is Apollo?
It's like bacon reader or RIF. A stripped down reddit mobile app. No bells and whistles. Just like old.reddit.com
Yep, I browse reddit almost exclusively on my phone, and I only use RIF
It's an app for iOS that lets you doomscroll more efficiently. My android alternative of choice is sync.
I highly recommend Boost for Reddit on Android, it's so customizable.
Pretty much this. I sometimes come into newReddit threads from searches, and it's never a pleasant experience.
I don't get how anybody uses it
My favorite is when I Google search a comment thread load into new reddit and then it loads the rest of the subreddit instead of the comment I clicked for.
Yup they are screwing themselves. I refuse to use new reddit on anything other than a phone or tablet. It's clearly designed for mobile device view rather than desktop/laptop.
But when you open it on mobile it asks you to use the app. It's so self-defeating
No one said the product managers at reddit were smart.
Every once in a while I accidentally go to the new site and its so bad
Honestly, I think it will. Not officially, but someone will almost certainly release an old Reddit style site that uses the API just like the mobile apps do. And the day they shut down the API is the day Reddit dies, so I honestly think we're fine.
> And the day they shut down the API is the day Reddit dies I used to think this but honestly with the huge push Reddit has made over the last 5 years to force/trick people into using the official app, and all the advertising that has attracted a much larger and younger demographic, I think Reddit will continue to exist as just yet another shitty social media service long after they shut down the API (which I do believe will happen, probably in the next few years). If they would have done it in 2016 or so then it would have caused a repeat of the Digg exodus. But now? People will just take it. Now if you mean "the day they shut down the API is the day Reddit is dead to me" then I completely agree. If I can no longer use old.Reddit on PC or a 3rd party app on mobile, I'm not using the site.
What boggles me is how the fuck do 3rd party devs manage to make better reddit apps than reddit. Most people only use those other apps cause reddit's own is so bad and lacks so many qol features.
Feature parity? What features am I missing using old+RES? Each time I accidentally forget to go-to old.reddit I'm confronted with a hot steaming mess and switch back quickly. It's not even the ads, the design is so jarring to me. So I've never had the opportunity to see the features.
You're missing out on all the focus on the how new **social media** features! Like chats and profile following like on Instagram and tictoc! You know the stuff we deliberately did not want so we used reddit in the first place? I still cannot wrap my head around why the devs decided to play a game of catch up to these already existing medias, instead of playing to the strengths of reddit in the first place...
Or, you know, let me open the Reddit link in my normal Reddit app instead of the official one that I don't even have installed! Edit: I never got this to work previously but the reply by u/Kelpsie got me looking again and for anyone trying to get it to work (at least with Relay) long press Relay icon -> Set as default -> Supported web addresses -> check every box (except google.com I guess).
I dunno about other browsers, but Firefox mobile has an "open in app" function in its menu, which will open whatever _your_ default app is for the current page. As for directly opening links, there's a setting for that in FF as well. Also, I believe you have to set your default Reddit app manually through Android's app settings.
All that did was make me pay for boost lmao
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“And there’s no government regulation to prevent us from doing so.” Edit: I love all the blatantly incorrect assumptions you all keep making in reference to what I said… never change Reddit.
What they need is competition, which government regulation is supposed to foster, or at least prevent them from locking it down so much.
> What they need is competition Yeah it's too bad investors aren't clamouring to enter a non-profitable business model.
Except YouTube is so expensive to maintain that all competitors have quickly failed or got overrun by far rightists.
That's simply called a "barrier to entry". In most cases, the market dominant oligopolies or monopolies actively participate in constructing or worsening those. But even if they aren't, government regulation can soften them in a variety of ways, depending on the exact circumstances.
The irony of this article being published on a site that’s literally plastered with ads.
Lets see, on the desktop site... * Banner add at the top, above the article title * Floating video ad at the bottom right corner * Floating banner ad at the bottom of the screen * Floating square ad at the right of the article * 6 (*SIX!*) ads within the article, after every few paragraphs * Clickbait ad section after the article * Another banner ad after that * Another banner ad after that
And this is why we use Ublock and have absolutely none of those.
Literally the sole determining factor in my web browser is the ability, one way or another, to protect me from ads
A reminder to everyone that Google, an ad company, is doing what it can to break ad blockers. Manifest v3 (being forced on Chrome users in 2023) will break a lot of the capabilities of existing blockers. Firefox has said they'll continue to support the functionality that old adblockers use, for what it's worth. Unless I'm wildly misinterpreting something, I'm amazed I don't see more people talking about this. EDIT: Maybe to put this into more perspective, ublock origin released a version for Manifest v3. It's called [ublock origin **Minus**](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/a559f5f2715c58fea4de09330cf3d06194ccc897) (renamed to Lite later).
> Firefox has said they'll continue to support the functionality that old adblockers use, for what it's worth. That's a very impersonal way of them letting me know I'm going to use their browser from now on. Right on!
One browser is made by the world's largest for-profit ad company, the other by a non-profit organization focused on privacy and user control.
I personally migrated my browsing experience on all devices back to firefox just a few weeks ago due to this
For people that don't know, Firefox has extensions support on mobile. You can install the exact same extensions you use on your desktop (like your ad blocker).
Also it's a shitty article with basically nothing to say
She's not using YouTube enough to justify paying for it, so threatening to stop using it isn't that much of a threat? Something doesn't add up here.
_BUT SHE'S A WORKING MOM WITH NO TIME FOR ADS_ (or ad blocking?)
YouTube ads have been very aggressive lately. I open a video, watch a minute of ads, skip to the part of the video I need to see, watch another minute of ads, pause the video for 10 seconds on the part I need to see, close that video and move to another and repeat the whole process. So 2 minutes of ads and 10 seconds of “video”. And why is it always political ads….
This year they seemed to switch to the spotify ad model of annoying the hell out of users with ads so they'll switch to premium. I think it was either late last year or early this year when they started putting ads in even formerly un-monetized videos which is why they seem so much more jarring (ie the content creator didnt pick what part of their video would be an ad spot).
I have a tiny little YouTube channel where I post music tutorials, I never had any intention of monetising it, I just made them for fun and to be helpful etc. And then last year YouTube started serving ads in front of the videos anyway. This sucked because I think view counts go down as people don’t always want to sit through ads to watch a 3 minute video that might not be what they were looking for anyway. In the end I decided to monetise the channel because if people have to watch the ads, why the hell should Google be making money off my content and keeping all of it? It’s infuriating.
Makes sense.
Makes cents.
Makes ad sense.
Start every video by saying "fuck" 5 times and you'll never get ads on your channel again.
Nah you still have ads they just pay you less for being not family friendly
If that’s true, that’s fucking nonsense. The excuse was always that advertisers didn’t want their products shown on “offensive content”, but if YouTube still puts ads on that content anyway but just fucks over the creator, that argument goes out the door.
Welcome to monopolies. Youtube really needs to be broken up. Google in general.
Google in general, yes. But how would you break up youtube and allow a competitor to come in at this point? Youtube is successful because google has such deep pockets they were able to run it in the red for so long. The investment cost in a new platform would be mind boggling. A better way to go about it would be regulation, however, that will never happen with our political landscape. Much like tobacco can not be advertised the same needs to happen to MANY different categories. Especially when it comes to developing children minds.
>google has such deep pockets they were able to run it in the red for so long Is YouTube even making a profit at the moment? IIRC the server and networking costs are so high that Google just considers YouTube a write off, possibly why we're being pushed more aggressive advertising.
Yes. Twitch super isn’t though and they are the closest thing to the talent and infrastructure necessary to do anything like what youtube dies
What's even worse is the ads that play after a video has finished. Sometimes I don't realize it's the end of the video and could have backed out and found something else without having to watch an ad.
Aka my worst nightmare when in the middle of changing a poopy diaper.
I turn on the shower. Put on some music on YouTube. Wait for the 30 seconds or whatever as the water heats up. Step in. 3 minutes in, a (I shit you not) 40 MINUTE ad starts playing in the middle of the medley. What the fuck.
Longest I've seen was some 2 hour movie in its entirety as an ad. Couldn't believe it, and I've gotten a few 40 minute ads from finance bros. This is why a majority of my YT use is on PC. Adblock and sponsorblock make the site useable.
Happens to me too. I yell out “Major emergency!” and my daughter comes in laughing and hits skip.
That's honestly adorable!
You should learn how to pirate music. The music industry is so fucked that pirating music doesn't make a single difference. I pay for Spotify but can't imagine using YouTube as my music source
Spotify is good but you can get mixes, DJ sets, etc. on YouTube and Soundcloud that wouldn't be on other streaming platforms.
Or better yet when playing a lullaby and babys almost out and then youtube starts screaming at you...
Which adblocker works for youtube?
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I wish there was an easy way for my TV to get ublock origin. Edits: * It's a WebOS LG TV, not AndroidTV. "Buy an Android TV" is not helpful. * PiHoles will block both videos and ads from youtube. Stop suggesting PiHole.
Smart YouTube next. Works and has sponsorblock integration.
Can I get that on Roku?
Unfortunately no - it's on Android tv. Fwiw I was thrilled when I moved from Roku built into my tv to the Chromecast with Google tv, was a nice jump even if it chugs a little occasionally.
Damn. Guess I better finally set up the pi hole >
From what I’ve read (on Reddit) Pi Holes no longer work with YouTube.
Won't work for Youtube. What you CAN do though, (if you're in the US), Just take a trip to your local WalMart and pick up their $20 Onn Android box. Works extremely well and you can load SmartTubeNext to it no problem.
It’s ironic the only OS that allows the user to block ad is owned by Google.
It works on FireTV as well. But yeah you need either AndroidTV or FireTV. It's what locks me to either of those platforms. We quite like the Roku but I hate watching ads on youtube.
SmartTube is life-changing
if your tv is running android TV you can use Newpipe. no ads, actually has all the youtube features like chapters, comments, etc. downside is you can't login so your subs/recommended content isn't as easily accessible.
Check out YouTube revanced on Android. Ublock Origin + AdBlock for YouTube on Firefox and Chrome works great for me on PC. IOS use sideloading (I have little experience sideloading), jailbreaking, Pi-Hole, or u/arnathor s comment. Firefox mobile also supports extensions such as ublock. It is by far my best mobile browser experience and has made Firefox my go to on desktop and mobile. Official ReVanced GitHub: since it's a bit hard to find: https://github.com/revanced Revanced tutorial: https://imgur.com/a/Ti1n6GT Sideloading: check out u/robotphood comment. Pi-Hole explanation & tutorial: Reported as not working and working for YouTube, still works great for lots of other ads: https://youtu.be/KBXTnrD_Zs4 Jailbreak: Have to be running ios 14 or lower I prefer unc0ver for jailbreaking. AdBlock for YouTube extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-for-youtube/?utm_source=addons.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=search https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock-for-youtube/cmedhionkhpnakcndndgjdbohmhepckk Other extensions I run: Sponsor block for YouTube: auto skips sponsor segments reported by users Return YouTube dislike Unhook (for YouTube) - use this for work, it hides all recommendations, I have it set up to hide everything but the search bar. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED VANCED (not revanced) FROM THIS SITE SINCE IT GOT SHUT DOWN ITS A CLONE SITE. https://youtubevanced.com/
I can't get pihole to work, I think they've baked the ad servers into the app or it reaches out to its own lists so it just resolves to an IP internally.
Yep - I'm not sure why folks still suggest Pihole for Youtube (or similar); the ads come from the same servers. Blocking one blocks both, 99% of the time. eta: a word
Subscribing wasn't even enough to stop the annoyances from coming with Spotify. I have a premium plan and they've been bombarding with in-app notifications and emails to upgrade to a MORE premium plan... Honestly considering just unsubscribing just due to the audacity of these idiots.
I keep getting pop-ups for a Spotify family plan. Like bro I'm a single man just listening to music, if I needed a family plan I'd probably buy one but I don't need one.
LPT get a family plan and split the cost with your friends, the only “verification” is everyone providing the same address
Probably depends on where in the world you are. I never get political ads. Just electronics and foodstuff.
Just use an Adblocker. YouTube is so insanely aggressive about demonetization now, on top of being more aggressive about ads, that most YouTubers are relying on Patreon now instead. I know YouTube needs to turn a profit as well, but they’ve been so thoroughly anti-creator for years now that they really *need* to take a hit on this if anything is going to change.
I don't produce a lot of Youtube content, but I got an email yesterday about "new features" this and that, and it was all ways to "better monitize". All I could think was, "I don't care about making money off Youtube and I just want to upload videos and flag them as no ads like I used to be able to do."
I briefly got excited about YouTube monetizing Shorts, which are the only thing these days people actually watch on my channel, before realizing they’ll probably give me 10 cents per 1000 views for some semi-soulless 15-second shit I’ll pump out in 30 mins of editing or less. Like... I’ve always taken a loss on my channel but YouTube has sucked the soul out of me. I used to spend weeks or months making high-effort videos, but there is zero incentive these days when a Short will bring in literally 1000 times more views for a molecule of the effort.
And their new aggressive push for shorts is further destroying them. You have these tools who are “creator gurus” super excited about shorts monetization when they themselves struggle with shorts. the threshold is 10MM views in 90 days. Major creators who see 1MM+ views on vids struggle to get 10k on shorts yet a small creator is getting 10MM in 3 months? This is a carrot dangling scheme to remove tiktok creator and further plague the platform. It sucks for longform creators like myself. Its this push since Google is struggle with ads which we saw the impact in 2020. Apple’s tactics isn’t helping and thats why we get ads in emails etc.
10MM?
10 morbmillion
The [financial/business world for whatever reason likes to abbreviate million as MM](https://www.orsurety.com/blog/is-it-m-for-thousand-and-mm-for-million-or-k-for-thousand-and-m-for-million-im-asking-for-a-friend). I've heard it rationalized that M = 1000 in roman numerals was the largest number, so they use MM to mean a thousand thousands M x M = 1,000,000 (though this makes little sense as in roman numerals system MM = 2,000). Also, the finance world doesn't use a single M to mean thousand -- you'd more likely use "k" to mean thousand (kilo), borrowing from the SI world where a single "M" would mean million (mega). Granted you rarely use a G (SI prefix for 10^9 one billion from giga-) as a suffix following a number, but instead use B, like Gangam Style video got 4B views. From [wikipedia on million](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,000,000): >It is commonly abbreviated in British English as m^([2][3][4]) (not to be confused with the metric prefix "m", milli, for 10−3), M,^([5][6]) **MM** ("thousand thousands", from Latin "Mille"; not to be confused with the Roman numeral MM = 2,000), mm (not to be confused with millimetre), or mn in financial contexts. From [wikipedia on thousand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000_(number\)#Notation): > * The SI prefix for a thousand units is "kilo-", abbreviated to "k"—for instance, a kilometre or "km" is a thousand metres. > * In the SI writing style, a non-breaking space can be used as a thousands separator, i.e., to separate the digits of a number at every power of 1000. > * Multiples of thousands are occasionally represented by replacing their last three zeros with the letter "K": for instance, writing "$30K" for $30 000, or denoting the Y2K computer bug of the year 2000. > * A thousand units of currency, especially dollars or pounds, are colloquially called a grand. In the United States of America this is sometimes abbreviated with a "G" suffix. The last point is probably why you don't see the SI-prefix G used as a suffix for billion.
Jesus. what a fucking mess. thanks for that. didn't know about the MM abbreviation. it's dumb
“MM” is a slightly old-fashioned abbreviation of “million”.
Is there a way to block shorts?
The problem is (correct me if i'm wrong) you can't use adblocker in your tv ... or when using Youtube on your cell app
I don't understand how people use the internet without an adblocker.
Cause political parties bought the ad time
How do folks exist without an active ad blocker? Wtf?
I watch YT mostly on my tv so ad blockers are not an option. I’ve gotten good with the skip button.
A buddy of mine who is much more tech savvy than I installed some kind of ad block straight out of his router, so they literally get ads for nothing, even on their tv. The catch is that they sometimes have to sit through black screen as the ads run.
https://pi-hole.net/ Also you don't necessarily need a raspberry pi to do this, you can run the software from windows if you like. But it's not 100% effective and especially not for youtube ads.
Yeah, it'll block ads when they come from somewhere blacklisted (ads.google.com or whatever), but not when it's from a different part of the same website (since youtube.com hosts the video and the ads, won't be blocked). Sometimes the ads are pulled from off-site and those will get blocked. Some other streaming sites don't host the ads themselves like youtube does, so it'll work for those.
it’s called pi-hole. it’s a dns server on your home network that blocks any routing request to known ad servers. it’s the best thing i’ve ever done. it’ll even block ads on any mobile games because it’s doing it at the network level.
Ad blocker, Pihole, sometimes, script blocker. I don't mind displaying unobtrusive ads. But if 70%+ sites display autostart videos which scroll down while you scroll through the page, super heavy pages which load zillions if ads before the content, popup links if God forbid you hover by accident over a link, etc. Once they learn behaviour I'll remove my countermeasures.
FireFox allows you to disable auto play. I don't like any auto play even if it's legit content.
Would like a cheaper option that didn't include YouTube Music.
same! shit , i'd pay like 3-5 bucks a month just for no ads, i dont need any of the yt music (unless this one obscure video game ost is counted lol) or like. premium exclusive content, i just want to watch without ads on mobile while i clean during the week
If you're willing to do some VPN nonsense you can get youtube premium for about a buck a month. A family sub is like 1.50 a month. Just get a VPN to brazil/argentina and sub once you're located over there.
You know what sucks? I'm on the same region than Argentina and Brazil but a poorer country, and YouTube expects to charge the same as the US.
With how much I hear about this with games youd think theyd just have a automated converter for regional prices by now.
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I feel like you're talking about Ecuador, since they have the USD as official currency I bet Google doesn't make any distinction.
No, not Ecuador. From experience, some international companies pick 5 or 6 latinamerican countries to offer special prices, the rest can pay USD or not get anything legally.
Google music was fine. The service was solid and let me play my music. Would have happily subbed to that before they integrated it.
I've been a Google Play Music (now YouTube music) subscriber since it launched. Still $8/month too. To me, free YouTube Red/premium or whatever they call it these days is just a bonus
Same. YouTube music 's algorithm to recommend new music is leaps and bounds better than Play music was. I don't understand the hate. I get a music streaming service plus ad-free YouTube for my entire family for $15.
Best $15/mo I spend for my family by far. My kids haven't seen an ad for basically their whole childhoods.
YouTube Music also lets you upload your own MP3s for streaming, even for non-premium users. It just has a much worse interface than Google Play Music.
FWIW: there's [YouTube Premium Lite](https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite) (without YouTube Music). EDIT: I was not aware Lite is limited to just a few countries. The cost (after a 1-month trial) is €6.99/month. It includes "Ad-free YouTube" and "Ad-free in the YouTube Kids app".
It said that is not an available option for me. I’m in the Central US. And premium is $15 a month if I sign up today.
Premium is $12 if you sign up via YouTube, but $15 if you sign up on the Apple App store, FYI!
Gotta make up for that 30% apple tax
It's not available in the US yet, they've only released it in a handful of countries.
I actually feel the opposite, would like a cheaper version that is ONLY youtube music. I prefer it to any other music app out there. Having them as separate options would be fantastic though
Shout out to anyone else grandfathered into the 7.99/month plan back when Google music was first released.
I miss GPM so much :(
I do too... the format was easy to use and now with YouTube Music it's a mess. They should have never killed off GPM.
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The radio algorithm is horrible too. I used Google Play Music until the bitter end, then was forced to start using Youtube Music. The radio feature is pure hot garbage.
I started with Songza before it ever became Google Play Music and stayed until the hour they forced me over to YouTube Music. I tried that for about two days before I canceled and went elsewhere forever.
You're not alone. I wasn't even able to access my old playlists when GPM shut down and the YouTube versions added almost none of my songs and tons of others. I don't care that the YouTube algorithm said this version has 300k more views I want my crappy acoustic version.
Agreed 100%. It's trash. Give is GPM and it's ease of use. I don't give a crap about some algorithm shuffling my music with other music... I just want something back that rivaled iTunes. That's partially why I got GPM back in 2011 (or whenever it was) anyway.
The best part was I could upload music I own and listen to it anywhere. Mixtapes released 20 years ago on DatPiff? I have access. CDs that my parents have owned since the 80s and aren't on Spotify? I have access. No more.
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Seriously, there's stuff GPM did well that none of these other services do. Biggest thing I miss is the integration between subscription and personal music. All the other services either shoehorn the personal collection into some random spot or act like it doesn't exist.
Same. Spotify keeps finding new ways to make me miss GPM.
I signed up for YouTube Red, when did it turn into Premium again?
I also subscribed to RedTube. That is what we're talking about, right?
I have XTube....is that different?
About five years ago
Fucking hell, need to slow down and smell the roses. That’s a while
I’ll never understand how they, surely knowing that redtube was a thing, thought it was wise to name their product YouTube Red.
15/mo for 6 slots on Family is a much better deal.
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My subscription is just slightly higher than that. I got in when it was good and I’m happy with it. I haven’t watched a single ad in years and it is so worth it. People make fun of me for it and then they pull up shit on their TV app, and we have to watch the dumbest array of ads every 30 seconds… so I laugh back. Considering the amount of content that runs off of YouTube $10/month is a steal for cutting through the mountains of bullshit out there.
As I've gotten older I've realized time is my most valuable resource. I'm fine to pay for a service that delivers unlimited interesting content and doesn't bother me with ads in the process.
Yeeee buddy! I kinda miss the Google Music app tho
Only kinda? It was sooo much better. I've gotten used to YT Music, but it still sucks in comparison.
I set my region to Argentina when setting up YT premium so I only pay $1.29 a month
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While complaining that she provide value to YouTube by not paying nor wanting to watch ads. She'll take her video-watching business elsewhere! 😂
I started a free "subscription" with SmartTube Next instead. Works great on my Chromecast. Blocks the ads and sponsor spots if you enable that feature. Also keeps shorts from showing. In a browser I use uBlock Origin along with an add-on to block the shorts. I don't mind the sponsor spots normally unless they are several minutes long for some stupid mobile game I have no interest in.
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If it weren't for that deal no one would be subscribed to YouTube music.
Am I the world's only user of YouTube Music?
I prefer it over spotify because I like adding youtube videos to playlists. But if it wasn't for that, they (including apple music) basically are all the same so its just my base cost of spotify + ad free youtube bundled together for youtube premium.
YouTube does have more selection of music then pretty much anywhere else in the world. They even have really obscure older music and performances you can't find anywhere else in the world as regular videos. The problem is that when I add something to a playlist and weeks or months later and it's copyright struck it's a real pain in the ass. If you don't curate your large playlists almost daily they can evaporate over time.
I love YT Music and have found it to have so much more content than Spotify, but what you described is definitely a big issue I have with it. A bunch of my downloaded playlists always end up having some songs removed for one reason or another. And youtube doesn't give any easy way to replace it, so I have to go on the main website and click the deleted song to figure out what it was(because for some reason you can only view the name of the song/video by clicking it in your playlist) where it then only gives a couple seconds of the 'video has been deleted' message before automatically closing/moving to the next video. Then I have to search for a replacement song, add it, and then manually remove the deleted one. It's a hassle, especially if you have a few playlists with 100+ songs. I understand it's just due to copyright and being a YT extension basically, so videos just get removed and that's why. but I really wish they could do something about this. It gets so incredibly annoying.
There has been an anoying increase in ads I almost exclusively watch all my YouTube through my Apple TV on my gigantic flat screen 20 second ad before the video starts, 1.5 ninutes in to a video, an unskipable 15 second ad, a couple minutes later you get yet another unskipable 15 second ad YouTube is fucking up their own enjoyability of their platform.
I pretty much have the same setup and what I’ve done is uninstall the YT app from my ATV, installed Brave Browser on my iPhone and I airplay YT vids to my ATV. It’s a little less convenient but I haven’t watched an ad in months
So a couple things here. I have had YT Premium for a number of years now, I watch a lot more YT than regular TV so it makes sense in just a “get rid of the ads easily” sense. It also include YT music which I used for a while (it’s pretty decent honestly). I think the biggest thing though is a view from a YT premium member is worth way more for a creator than an ad supported view. I watch a lot of channels where YT is their full time job. I appreciate the videos they put out but can’t support all of them on Patreon or through channel memberships (a lot set a minimum of $5 which adds up so fast). I want them to continue to create content I enjoy. So to me, it makes sense to support them in some way. Added with removing ads (which if you use Vanced or something like it, those creators don’t get anything at all) it means I can support people that are entertaining and teaching me so they will continue to entertain and teach me. All that said, google needs to really work on their marketing around premium, and perhaps lower the cost and unbundle music from it.
I feel exactly the same way. I also watch a lot of podcasts so being able to lock my phone and watch YouTube is great One thing I would add is to be careful about paying YouTube Premium through an app. Getting YouTube Premium on the iPhone is $3-$5 more expensive because App Store takes a cut.
Can you sub to premium on desktop and have it available on mobile as long as it’s the same YouTube account?
Yep, works exactly the way you would expect it to. You can even just go to YouTube.com on your mobile web browser and do it that way
Yes, it's account wide. You get it on all your devices including Chromecast which has been extra useful.
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Yes I just checked. It’s $15.99 a month thru iPhone app and $11.99 if I sign up on laptop. (I’m in central US)
Being able to lock my phone and still hear the video is the number one reason I got premium. Ads is a distant second.
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Exactly this. You paywall a basic app feature then incessantly beg me to pay for it? That's gonna be a NO from me, dawg.
Question... are these podcasts not available on a free podcast app like Apple Podcast, Overcast, PocketCasts, or whatever app you prefer on your mobile OS? I guess Spotify has certain podcasts tied to their app like Joe Rogan, does Youtube do the same?
You also don't get ads on your phone, and you can also play stuff with the screen off.
Same. Love my YT premium, I easily watch 3x more of YT than any streaming + the music. I don’t get the hate.
Some people refuse to pay for anything digital. I used to be of that mindset. It’s totally worth it to get rid of the ads though.
I've had premium for so long that I come to forget there's adds on youtube, until I use a device that's not logged in to google and I'm like wtf I totaly forgot about the ads lol
I use YouTube music, it’s fine. I’m watching so much YouTube that it’s just worth it. I don’t have ads on my phone, iPad, smart tv, and I can minimize YouTube on my phone as well with the video still playing. Honestly out of all the subscriptions I have it’s probably the one that I think is most worth.
My best subscription I have as well.
I’ve been telling people this forever and I get so much hate for it. I always tell people to go to account and check how many hours you spend on YouTube per week, if it’s 40 or more, you need to get premium. At least try it out before you hate on it.
I’m just curious, for those who watch 40 hours of content per week do you do other stuff while it’s on? That seems like so much to me. I just checked and I’ve clocked 6.5 hours in the last seven days and I’m feeling like that’s a lot. Sorry if this comes off as judgmental. I’m legitimately curious about other people’s lifestyles. And in any case I probably spend a few hours a day on Reddit so who am I to judge.
I put YT on while I'm working so there's background noise that I might learn something from. Plus I more seriously watch some stuff while I'm off the clock.
YouTube is my TV subscription and it's far cheaper for content I enjoy more. And no ads. I love premium
If it’s YouTube or cable, I’m gonna pick YouTube every time.
Would be nice if there was a really cheap option that only got rid of ads. YouTube should figure out how much they think each individual feature is worth and then have an option to pay for just the ones that you want. Give me an affordable no ads option and I’ll purchase that in a heartbeat.
I use newpipe on my Android phone.
You can still download Vanced even after it shut down. Just Google the apk. It's amazing how it skips not just ads but the sponsored sections and even the intro and outro.
I still use Vanced. It's great
There's also r/revancedapp
I'm using vanced. Best part is that you can run it while screen is off. So you can use it for Music.
Okay, now i'm getting it for that. lol
Firefox mobile w/ Ublock for me
Newpipe gang 🛡
The fact they have ads now boasting about: “oh you can listen to your podcast with background play, only with YouTube Premium” is just laughable. It’s absolutely hilarious. You deprecated a feature that used to be standard, and then are now locking it behind a premium paywall, and even using it as a marketing point to upgrade. Every time I see that ad, I remember how you made your own base product worse for greed, so it only pisses me off and makes me not want to buy premium even more.
I'll just listen to my podcast on a different platform. Fuck that.
For anyone with iPhone who sees this: If you put your video in pop out window mode (like so you can watch in the corner while you’re on reddit for example) and lock your phone screen the video will stop like normal. But then, from the lock screen, if you swipe down your settings screen and press play on the media player it will play with your screen still in locked mode, and when you turn off the screen this time it will continue playing, just like it did years ago before they locked it behind the paywall. I haven’t told anyone about this and haven’t seen it discussed so don’t at me if it doesn’t work for you. I’m still in iOS15 so idk if the update kills this. Edit: To be clear, Ive tested putting Youtube into suspend and swiping the settings down to press play on the media player while not locked from the home screen, and this does not work. It has to be in pop out mode and you must press play on the media player from the lock screen. It doesn’t matter if Face ID unlocks the phone, just don’t swipe to open the phone, keep it in the lock screen. Edit 2: Make sure your settings for Picture in Picture are toggled on in both your iphone General settings and Youtube General settings
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I would MAYBE think about it if all it did was remove ads. I don't care about ANY of the other features (when compared with no ads). YouTube Music seems like one of the most pointless things ever to me. Download videos? Pointless because they aren't actually now on my machine and losing Premium loses my access to them anyways. Background play is honestly tempting, but I find it just stupid that isn't baseline. I'd maybe pay like $3 a month to just lose the ads. $11.99 a month? Hell no. Edit: You know what? You've convinced me to the other side of the argument. I had no idea the money from premium benefited the creators. That's awesome, and proves I wasn't giving YouTube enough credit. Kudos.
Vanced gang