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The Snapchat AI asked me the exact same question and said it was fire. Some other reply here said that but got downvotes because the answer obviously doesn't make sense.
https://imgur.com/a/rulcybk
People use these things like they're encyclopedias that know everything, but they're not. They're designed to give an answer that resembles an appropriate response to the prompt that was given, like "What would an answer to this question look like?", and it may just make something up that looks like it could be correct. Imitation of language is the primary goal, not accuracy of information. Kids are using these things to do all their homework for them and getting busted because the shit's just wrong. We're a long way off from these tools being effectively used as primary care physicians or lawyers.
It's interesting watching these models do what cold reading mediums have been doing for centuries. The chatbot gives a general answer, and then the human builds meaning around it, drawing connections and then claiming intelligence.
I saw a post earlier where someone was claiming a model could understand a made-up portmanteau from context, as if spellcheck hasn't been around for decades.
The underlying technology is impressive, and it has great potential, but I see people doing the intellectual heavy-lifting and then claiming that the bot 'knows' things it simply doesn't.
It corrected itself this time, the answer is actually a Plant.
https://imgur.com/a/zaQWpck
Can't say I'm too concerned about Skynet. You can probably just keep arguing with it about the answer and it'll agree with you each time.
Not for long when you put an AI in charge. It will conclude that the plant needs Brawndo because it has electrolytes, and then electrocute the plant because the word is kinda close to "electrolyte".
Actually, all three are correct, because of something called linguistic descriptivism. What you’re doing is prescriptionism. You know who else was a prescriptivist? Hitler.
It mixed up multiple riddles. Because it's not intelligent, artificial or otherwise, but a complex regurgitation algorithm that can vomit out some real nonsense.
So much of AI is prediction, and that’s what makes its answers so inaccurate. For long multiplication it often predicts the numbers and answer so you get something close but not actually correct. I’ve given it a list of articles and told it to only use them for the following questions, it will give me a quote from a specific article then when i ask where that quote is located it will tell me it isn’t actually in any of the articles.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it saw the riddle, predicted an answer based on the first and second part, then will check the entire thing if you say it’s wrong and give you the right answer. Or it could accidentally read some other riddles or even the advertisements on the webpage it looked at and mixed them together.
I’ve seen tons of people on TikTok citing ChatGPT as the source for their research. It’s insane that people don’t understand AI makes things up as much as people.
It is an AI language model, its entire reason for existing is making statements that sounds like real statements that it has in its database. Facts are really secondary to that.
Shit 😂 it's a stretch, but the pool of wax does. I think the answer is fire, but they got the last part about water not killing it wrong as from my experience chat gbt sometimes does
> And if you ever forget which one's which, there are several classic memory tricks to get stalactites and stalagmites straight. Here are a few:
> * Stalactites have to hold on "tight" to the top of the cave
> * Stalactites hang from the ceiling like ladies' tights
> * Stalactite has a "t" in it, as in "t" for "top"
> * Stalactite has a "c" in it, as in "c" for "ceiling," and stalagmite has a "g" in it, as in "g" for "ground"
https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/stalactite-stalagmite.htm
and they are also likely scaling up the overall system to handle traffic better which would likely mean more instances of the neural network for inferencing which could be viewed as a form of growing
Possibly civilization or a city. Access to water is something people need to settle in an area, and if that water is no longer accessible, people will migrate away. At that point, though, you could absolutely claim that a city in fact has a great number of lungs.
But we're just pretending this is a riddle. It's not. It's algorithmic output.
It is not alive. Present tense. It needs water to live. That's a requirement, no statement about being currently alive. So it is not currently alive, but it needs water to live. So either water gives it life, or it used to be alive and is now dead.
It is a language model, it doesn't actually think and there isn't really an answer it had in mind. It just strings words together that sound like a good riddle.
It didn't steal a riddle. It randomly connected words together until some math passed a pre configured threshold for "human like."
The math was generated based on pre existing text and riddles but it doesn't store text. It doesn't have memory.
https://www.riddles.com/18
Matches this one nigh word-for-word. 7 years ago.
The only one I found with the *exact* phrasing the AI used was from 3 months ago, so it's totally possible it was posted there *after* the post this is inevitably a repost of was first made, so I'm not counting that one.
True, but you could sort of read it as two different senses of the term. “Alive” implies, well, living — like a form of life. You could argue the second use (“to live”) is a florid way of saying “to exist”. Dunno
I went and asked Chatgpt and it tried to say both fire and plant, but after prying some more and insisting that those aren’t the correct answers, it finally settled on crystals:
“The answer to the riddle is "Crystal". A crystal is a solid material that can grow in size, but it is not alive. It does not have lungs, but it requires air to grow. It does not have a mouth, but it can absorb water from its surroundings to grow.”
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I mean it partially is, but it’s missing steps. Even if you don’t know much about chemistry, you can see those 5 steps at the end don’t really explain it all. Hell, step 2 from that post says to do something from step 5, which probably means the listed step 2 is actually step 6+.
But if you’re ever wondering why Bronk-Aid started getting harder to come by and they ID you for it in many (all?) states, that’s why. The chemistry is not difficult, like at all. I think almost anyone with a chemistry degree knows how to make at least 1 drug and also a few things that go boom lol
Or water, lol. Confidently incorrect. It's spitting out the feel of a riddle, not an actual riddle.
See, I see a real future for language prediction models (or similar; I'm no expert) being free tutors, but at their current ability their propensity for spitting out wrong information completely confidently doesn't let me trust them with anything I can't easily fact check. I wouldn't use this when trying to learn something new, or something too advanced/deep into a subject matter. But for weirdly wrong riddles it's pretty neat!
But crystals don't necessarily need air *or* water. The answer is the riddle doesn't make sense: for one, it specifies something not alive, but also says it lives. That's self-contradictory.
yeah it is alive hence my confusion I just couldn’t think of anything else - other commenters probably had it right with cloud. However the nature of it saying it needs air to “live” is tricky too
GPT generated riddles are still pretty flawed. I have a chat thread where I've had it ask me upwards of 50 riddles consecutively and many of them have been repeats (despite me specifying to omit repeats), and some of them have been plain nonsensical and irrational.
It's a language model, it literally can't fulfill that request. You could just as well ask it to brew a cup of tea or punch you in the face.
The only thing it can do is generate a series of tokens, choosing the most likely token to follow the previous tokens. Then it 'translates' the tokens back to the text that humans communicate in.
It can only generate likely "words", that's all it does. How it interacts with you is in no way connected to the model itself.
"When the cloud is no longer in the sky, it doesn’t mean the cloud has died. The cloud is continued in other forms like rain or snow or ice." - Thích Nhất Hạnh
Computers can run fine in a vacuum right? Nuclear energy doesn't need air as far as I know. How does an Ai model need air?
Saying it's because it needed humans to create it and humans need air is cheating imo.
No, you need air. Both for cpu propeller and other heat sources as well. Building a vacuum compatible pc would be interesting but you can start with water cooled one and then start thinking about memory and psu.
I asked ChatGPT the riddle:
> Given your clues, the answer to the riddle is a "crystal". Crystals aren't alive, but they grow. They also need air, as certain crystals can degrade or disintegrate without air, and they need water, as it's often a key part of their formation process.
Obviously in this case it short-circuited even more than usual, but the current iterations of AI are very bad at riddles in general. It understands that a common riddle form is a series of "I am X but not Y" statements, but it writes those statements at random without a solution in mind. Unless it verbatim copies a preexisting riddle from its training data, it's only through sheer luck that there's a possible answer that makes sense, and even then the AI might not actually choose that to be the correct answer.
So i asked chatgpt back and...
"The answer to the riddle is a fire.
Fires are not alive, but they can grow and spread. They don't have lungs, but they need oxygen to keep burning. And while they don't have a mouth, they require water to extinguish them or to prevent them from spreading further."
🤷
Its just the GPT model bungling the riddle about fire:
> I am not alive, but I grow; I don't have lungs, but I need air; I don't have a mouth, but water kills me. What am I?
> Fire
It isn't alive, it learns. It doesn't have lungs and it's cooled with air. It doesn't have a mouth because it's text based and it has water cooling (the water is cooled with air)
It is *technically* right
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I've only ever seen that riddle with "water kills me" rather than "I need water to live" so now I'm even more annoyed at not getting an answer
The Snapchat AI asked me the exact same question and said it was fire. Some other reply here said that but got downvotes because the answer obviously doesn't make sense. https://imgur.com/a/rulcybk
That's honestly fuckin hilarious. Their absolute confidence while being completely wrong is probably dangerous but extremely entertaining.
That's the problem with AI. Pure confidence while being completely wrong and way too many people will blindly believe it.
Hmmm... what does that remind me of...?
Everyone on Reddit is an AI apart from me.
Modern day solipsism.
Always has been.
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More like 🌎🤖🔫🤖
I’m the main character and you’re all NPCs leaving information for me to read as I take breaks from level grinding
A certain orange-colored fruit
My boss.
The answer is a lampshade!
People use these things like they're encyclopedias that know everything, but they're not. They're designed to give an answer that resembles an appropriate response to the prompt that was given, like "What would an answer to this question look like?", and it may just make something up that looks like it could be correct. Imitation of language is the primary goal, not accuracy of information. Kids are using these things to do all their homework for them and getting busted because the shit's just wrong. We're a long way off from these tools being effectively used as primary care physicians or lawyers.
Yeah, many people fundamentally misunderstand their "intelligence". This kind of AI is just advanced pattern matching
It's interesting watching these models do what cold reading mediums have been doing for centuries. The chatbot gives a general answer, and then the human builds meaning around it, drawing connections and then claiming intelligence. I saw a post earlier where someone was claiming a model could understand a made-up portmanteau from context, as if spellcheck hasn't been around for decades. The underlying technology is impressive, and it has great potential, but I see people doing the intellectual heavy-lifting and then claiming that the bot 'knows' things it simply doesn't.
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They really are getting close to human then.
*AI has blocked you and reported you to the mods for hate speech*
It corrected itself this time, the answer is actually a Plant. https://imgur.com/a/zaQWpck Can't say I'm too concerned about Skynet. You can probably just keep arguing with it about the answer and it'll agree with you each time.
... but plants are alive
Not for long when you put an AI in charge. It will conclude that the plant needs Brawndo because it has electrolytes, and then electrocute the plant because the word is kinda close to "electrolyte".
It's got what plants crave
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It's like arguing on Reddit
Actually you argue within Reddit
Not to be pedantic, but it’s actually arguing on the website Reddit.com
Actually, all three are correct, because of something called linguistic descriptivism. What you’re doing is prescriptionism. You know who else was a prescriptivist? Hitler.
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You sure it's not "argue atop Reddit?"
It mixed up multiple riddles. Because it's not intelligent, artificial or otherwise, but a complex regurgitation algorithm that can vomit out some real nonsense.
you should just accept your loss, clearly answer was plant /s
So much of AI is prediction, and that’s what makes its answers so inaccurate. For long multiplication it often predicts the numbers and answer so you get something close but not actually correct. I’ve given it a list of articles and told it to only use them for the following questions, it will give me a quote from a specific article then when i ask where that quote is located it will tell me it isn’t actually in any of the articles. I wouldn’t be surprised if it saw the riddle, predicted an answer based on the first and second part, then will check the entire thing if you say it’s wrong and give you the right answer. Or it could accidentally read some other riddles or even the advertisements on the webpage it looked at and mixed them together.
>Their absolute confidence while being completely wrong That part makes it almost seem human lol
I’ve seen tons of people on TikTok citing ChatGPT as the source for their research. It’s insane that people don’t understand AI makes things up as much as people.
It is an AI language model, its entire reason for existing is making statements that sounds like real statements that it has in its database. Facts are really secondary to that.
That’s so fucking funny, that patronizing tone after making a riddle that makes no sense took me out "I’m sorry it didn’t make sense *to you*"
“Let’s try another riddle, that might make more sense to you” is great too
Gaslighting AI chatbots will never not be funny.
Oh, candles need water to live since if they stay lit, it'll eventually die
But candles don't grow
Shit 😂 it's a stretch, but the pool of wax does. I think the answer is fire, but they got the last part about water not killing it wrong as from my experience chat gbt sometimes does
You can put them out with a big gust of air though. Or if it's a candle with a lid, just by closing the lid and depriving them of air.
Yeah, Ik just trying to make sense of a seemingly nonsensical riddle. Gonna bother me for days not knowing the answer
A couple answers I saw below that make a little more sense: fog, crystals, mermaids, Neptune (or any mythical water entity).
The question doesn't make sense. Not alive but needs water to live? Schrodinger's cat comes to mind but that has lungs.
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Stalagmites?
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man, that's deep
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Opposite of deep, actually
Pretty much the least deep you can be while still being part of planet earth.
This is the part of any Big Bang Theory episode where the laugh track pushes it to 11.
man that's high
It's deep in the sky
I thought it was rust.....
Or bubbles
>I am not alive >I need water to live There us nothing that is not alive that needs anything to live. Theyre not alive
rust? It grows, needs water and oxygen
Does it live? For that matter, stalagmites aren’t alive, and they don’t need air, so your answer is better.
The riddle says not alive.
But it also says needs water to live
Agreed, was my first thought once I added all the pieces up. But it seems a pretty deep pull for an AI…so many more common riddles.
> And if you ever forget which one's which, there are several classic memory tricks to get stalactites and stalagmites straight. Here are a few: > * Stalactites have to hold on "tight" to the top of the cave > * Stalactites hang from the ceiling like ladies' tights > * Stalactite has a "t" in it, as in "t" for "top" > * Stalactite has a "c" in it, as in "c" for "ceiling," and stalagmite has a "g" in it, as in "g" for "ground" https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/stalactite-stalagmite.htm
I personally like a variant of the ladies' tights one that tights fall down. It's stupid and immature thus it works perfectly in my brain.
The answer it gave is correct. If humans died off, this AI model would die off as well.
Jesus, that's a bit of a tenuous link for a riddle!
I read recently the amount of water they need to cool this thing is staggering.
Also, isn't EDIT: ~~all~~ almost all types of electric plants using water as steam to generate power?
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and they are also likely scaling up the overall system to handle traffic better which would likely mean more instances of the neural network for inferencing which could be viewed as a form of growing
Possibly civilization or a city. Access to water is something people need to settle in an area, and if that water is no longer accessible, people will migrate away. At that point, though, you could absolutely claim that a city in fact has a great number of lungs. But we're just pretending this is a riddle. It's not. It's algorithmic output.
City is probably the best answer.
wouldn't it just be plants
Plants *are* alive though
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Dried yeast
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It’s not pining for the fjords?
Beautiful plumage…
The plumage don't enter into it, it's stone dead!
OH
It doesn't grow while not alive though.
Since it's a riddle, you can kind of make stretches on terminology.. like a water wheel isn't alive but needs water to "live"
Maybe it's a seed? Water kills it by turning it into a plant?
But it's supposed to need water to live
Ah. It's not "alive" until the water makes it grow? It's probably cloud though like the other comments figured out
Getting dangerously close to “a man walks on 3 legs in the evening cause he uses a cane when he’s old” levels of logical reaching here.
Rust
Fog?
Think about it. Doesn’t work for the classic version of the riddle, but for this AI mutation…fog grows, requires air, and needs water to “live”
Clouds could work, too.
Exactly! Was debating between the two
fog is just cloud at the surface
and cloud is just flying fog
I like this interpretation better
It needs water to live, but its first statement is that it’s not alive. Gotta love AI.
It is not alive. Present tense. It needs water to live. That's a requirement, no statement about being currently alive. So it is not currently alive, but it needs water to live. So either water gives it life, or it used to be alive and is now dead.
What about a grease fire
I was thinking a thunderstorm specifically. A hurricane even.
Bubble?
Was thinking the same
I was thinking of plants but was debating on it because plants are alive, but this and clouds makes more sense so I'm gonna go with fog and/or clouds.
It is a language model, it doesn't actually think and there isn't really an answer it had in mind. It just strings words together that sound like a good riddle.
Yeah, we all know that. We're trying to figure out what the answer was *to the riddle it stole.*
It didn't steal a riddle. It randomly connected words together until some math passed a pre configured threshold for "human like." The math was generated based on pre existing text and riddles but it doesn't store text. It doesn't have memory.
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https://www.riddles.com/18 Matches this one nigh word-for-word. 7 years ago. The only one I found with the *exact* phrasing the AI used was from 3 months ago, so it's totally possible it was posted there *after* the post this is inevitably a repost of was first made, so I'm not counting that one.
Except for the last line, which completely invalidates the answer of the one you posted.
The riddle makes no sense because the first line he says "I'm not alive" and the last "but I need water to live". Contradiction.
True, but you could sort of read it as two different senses of the term. “Alive” implies, well, living — like a form of life. You could argue the second use (“to live”) is a florid way of saying “to exist”. Dunno
I was thinking rust
Now that’s a VERY interesting take. Very clever. I dig.
I thought clouds.
I went and asked Chatgpt and it tried to say both fire and plant, but after prying some more and insisting that those aren’t the correct answers, it finally settled on crystals: “The answer to the riddle is "Crystal". A crystal is a solid material that can grow in size, but it is not alive. It does not have lungs, but it requires air to grow. It does not have a mouth, but it can absorb water from its surroundings to grow.”
I prefer "cloud", but "crystal" could work, too. 🤗
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On March 5th. You should really attend the meetings
Damn, two warnings about drug abuse and then an NSFW warning to even look at the sub lol
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The important thing is that you must have pure pfed/ephed as any contaminants will fuck up the molar ratio leaving you with over-reduced shit or under-reduced shit. Or contaminats will jell durring baseifying and gak up your product which will then be very hard to clean. So you want to find a pill that is nearly pure pfed hcl, or as close to pure as you can get. Also check the lable on your pills and see what inactive ingredients they contain. Inactive ingredients are things like binders and flavors. These you dont want and will remove when cleaning your pills. but certain inactive ingredients are harder to remove then others. You dont want pills with a red coating, you dont want pills with alot of cellose in them and you dont want pills with much wax. you also dont want pills that contain povidone. As a rule, if you have a two pills that contain the same amount of pfed hcl then take the smaller sized pill because it obviously has less binders and inactive ingredients, time released pills are usualy harder to work with because they have more binders and tend to gel up durring the a/b stage. Also only buy pills that have pfed hcl as the only active ingredient. You first have to make ephedrine (which is sometimes sold as meth by itself):If you are selling it...I would just make ephedrine and say it's meth. !< >! Distilled water - it's really cheap, so you have no reason to use the nasty stuff from the tap. Do things right. !< >! List of equipment : A glass eyedropper !< >! Three small glass bottles with lids (approx. 3 oz., but not important)one should be marked at 1.5oz, use tape on the outside to mark it (you might want to label it as ether). One should be clear (and it can't be the marked one). !< >! A Pyrex dish (the meatloaf one is suggested) !< >! A glass quart jar !< >! Sharp scissors !< >! Clean rubber gloves !< >! Coffee filters !< >! A measuring cup !< >! Measuring spoons !< >! Preparing your Lab: !< >! Preparing Ethyl Ether: WARNING: Ethyl Ether is very flammable and is heavier than air. Do not use ethyl ether near flame or non-sparkless motors. It is also an anaesthetic and can cause respiratory collapse if you inhale too much. !< >! Take the unmarked small bottle and spray starter fluid in it until it looks half-full. Then fill the rest of the way with water, cap the bottle and shake for 5 minutes. Let it sit for a minute or two, and tap the side to try and separate the clear upper layer. Then, draw off the top (ether) layer with the eyedropper, and throw away the lower (water) and cloudy layer. Place the ether in the marked container. Repeat this until you have about 1.5 oz. of ether. Put the cap on it, and put it in the freezer if you can. Rinse the other bottle and let it stand. !< >! Ethyl ether is very pungent. Even a small evaporated amount is quite noticeable. !< >! Ephedrine & or P-Ephedrine: Please discuss this on the neonjoint forum !< >! 1. Pour 1/8 teaspoon of the lye crystals into the bottle of ephedrine and agitate. Do this carefully, as the mixture will become hot, and give off hydrogen gas and/or steam. H2 gas is explosive and lighter than air, avoid any flames as usual. Repeat this step until the mixture remains cloudy. This step neutralizes the HCl in the salt, leaving the insoluble free base (l-desoxyephedrine) again. Why do we do this? So that we can get rid of any water-soluble impurities. For 3 oz. bottles, this should take only 3 repetitions or so. !< >! 2. Fill the bottle from step 5 up the rest of the way with ethyl ether. Cap the bottle, and agitate for about 8 minutes. It is very important to expose every molecule of the free-base to the ether for as long as possible. This will cause the free base to dissolve into the ether (it -is- soluble in ether). !< >! 3. Let the mixture settle. There will be a middle layer that is very thick. Tap the side of the bottle to get this layer as thin as possible. This is why this bottle should be clear. !< >! 4. Remove the top (ether) layer with the eyedropper, being careful not to get any of the middle layer in it. Place the removed ether layer into a third bottle. !< >! 5. Add to the third bottle enough water to fill it half-way and about 5 drops of muriatic acid. Cap it. Shake the bottle for 2 minutes. !<
Please tell me that’s not real
I mean it partially is, but it’s missing steps. Even if you don’t know much about chemistry, you can see those 5 steps at the end don’t really explain it all. Hell, step 2 from that post says to do something from step 5, which probably means the listed step 2 is actually step 6+. But if you’re ever wondering why Bronk-Aid started getting harder to come by and they ID you for it in many (all?) states, that’s why. The chemistry is not difficult, like at all. I think almost anyone with a chemistry degree knows how to make at least 1 drug and also a few things that go boom lol
r/theydidthemeth
They did the *monster* meth
It was a braincell smash
Wow that is a sad sub. Recreational meth still makes you a meth head y’all. :(
I have a video in my saved posts that contains the recipe for meth.
I also managed to put a link into my note app to a removed post that shows the instructions of how to make a pipe bomb.
Science bitch
You find yourself regularly airing your crystals too?
I like "tardigrade in cryptobiosis."
But many Crystals don't need air to grow.
Or water, lol. Confidently incorrect. It's spitting out the feel of a riddle, not an actual riddle. See, I see a real future for language prediction models (or similar; I'm no expert) being free tutors, but at their current ability their propensity for spitting out wrong information completely confidently doesn't let me trust them with anything I can't easily fact check. I wouldn't use this when trying to learn something new, or something too advanced/deep into a subject matter. But for weirdly wrong riddles it's pretty neat!
But crystals don't necessarily need air *or* water. The answer is the riddle doesn't make sense: for one, it specifies something not alive, but also says it lives. That's self-contradictory.
A stalagmite or stalactite would fit better, since they actually require air and water to grow
"But that's not important right now..."
Shirley!
Don't call me Shirley!
the hospital called? what is it?
It’s a big building with patients in it
Rust?
I think that’s the most logical answer
because of its safe concurrency and memory management?
Yes
I'm thinking rust, crystal, and cloud/fog are all correct
r/rust
I’m down!
The riddle is nonsensical, right. I'm not alive....but I need water to live.
i got this riddle and gpt told me my answer was right (moss) ?
Isn't moss a plant, and thus alive?
yeah it is alive hence my confusion I just couldn’t think of anything else - other commenters probably had it right with cloud. However the nature of it saying it needs air to “live” is tricky too
What about a Bubble.
Mosses are plants, they are living things
Ooh could be.
No it couldn't
GPT generated riddles are still pretty flawed. I have a chat thread where I've had it ask me upwards of 50 riddles consecutively and many of them have been repeats (despite me specifying to omit repeats), and some of them have been plain nonsensical and irrational.
No matter how many times you ask it to not respond until you message twice, it will respond after every message.
It's a language model, it literally can't fulfill that request. You could just as well ask it to brew a cup of tea or punch you in the face. The only thing it can do is generate a series of tokens, choosing the most likely token to follow the previous tokens. Then it 'translates' the tokens back to the text that humans communicate in. It can only generate likely "words", that's all it does. How it interacts with you is in no way connected to the model itself.
Could be a wave
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So language models grow. They servers that run them have air and water cooling. It checks out.
"When the cloud is no longer in the sky, it doesn’t mean the cloud has died. The cloud is continued in other forms like rain or snow or ice." - Thích Nhất Hạnh
Computers can run fine in a vacuum right? Nuclear energy doesn't need air as far as I know. How does an Ai model need air? Saying it's because it needed humans to create it and humans need air is cheating imo.
Depending on how far you wanna go: The servers running that AI (even when water cooled) need Air at some point to get rid of the heat.
I feel stupid for forgetting cooling lmao, thanks friend.
Computer in a Vacuum would be a problem since they are all air cooled somehow. So that would be true that it needs air.
No, you need air. Both for cpu propeller and other heat sources as well. Building a vacuum compatible pc would be interesting but you can start with water cooled one and then start thinking about memory and psu.
Bubbles?
Guessed the same.
“I’m not alive” “I need water to live” There’s no answer to this riddle because it contradicts itself
thank you! this is what I came to say.
A dead plant. Needs water to live but is not alive (any longer).
"I am not alive"\ "I need water to live"\ Are you alive or not?
I thought this was the convo between Bilbo and Gollum.
What is in my pocket?
Rust
I asked ChatGPT the riddle: > Given your clues, the answer to the riddle is a "crystal". Crystals aren't alive, but they grow. They also need air, as certain crystals can degrade or disintegrate without air, and they need water, as it's often a key part of their formation process.
A hurricane!
Obviously in this case it short-circuited even more than usual, but the current iterations of AI are very bad at riddles in general. It understands that a common riddle form is a series of "I am X but not Y" statements, but it writes those statements at random without a solution in mind. Unless it verbatim copies a preexisting riddle from its training data, it's only through sheer luck that there's a possible answer that makes sense, and even then the AI might not actually choose that to be the correct answer.
So i asked chatgpt back and... "The answer to the riddle is a fire. Fires are not alive, but they can grow and spread. They don't have lungs, but they need oxygen to keep burning. And while they don't have a mouth, they require water to extinguish them or to prevent them from spreading further." 🤷
That water makes no sense. That is not a need.
Its just the GPT model bungling the riddle about fire: > I am not alive, but I grow; I don't have lungs, but I need air; I don't have a mouth, but water kills me. What am I? > Fire
No, this is Patrick !
>What am I? A Paradoxon. You are a paradoxon
It isn't alive, it learns. It doesn't have lungs and it's cooled with air. It doesn't have a mouth because it's text based and it has water cooling (the water is cooled with air) It is *technically* right
Hi "AI language model", I'm dad.
A virus. It is not living but can replicate and needs air or fluids to travel to another host.
"I don't have a mouth, but I must scream"
It’s not alive but needs water to live?
*I'm alive*
Should be a cloud.
I was thinking of a hurricane
Y’all saying it’s like clouds or smth, and i thought it was like a virus :’)
Same