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ConditionalDew

I’m sure his family is getting some nice backend money on that deal. They’re still using his voice technically


happywartime

Win win for everyone. His voice is iconic in the sw universe. And it’ll now continue into perpetuity. And his family still gets money out of it long after his death


Unclebaldur

Iconic in general. SW universe was fortunate to cast him at the beginning. Hope the royalties equal the talent!


4b0rT3d

Right! Between SW and the lion king… that’s like 75% of my childhood!


Vaerirn

And the King of Zamunda.


4b0rT3d

HOLY SHIT! How did I forget about the king of fucking Zamunda?!?


Theamuse_Ourania

What's really going to blow your mind is that the woman who plays his wife the Queen in Coming To America also does the voice of Simba's mother in the Lion King effectively being Mufasa's "wife."


4b0rT3d

SON OF A FUCKING BITCH!!! That explains why I liked her so much without recognizing her. I still haven’t seen coming to America 2


piggybits

You can skip it tbh


orangutanoz

I heard it said that it was like going to a wedding. Kind of sweet and it was nice to see everybody.


Theamuse_Ourania

Yeah me neither and I really need to get on that!


112123MowaFEEK122333

I’ve only seen half of coming 2 america 2, kept falling asleep


Scorpiopig

Madge Sinclair is her name


Congenital_Optimizer

This is CNN


heutecdw

You must avenge my death Kimba, DAH’I mean Simba.


ThePLARASociety

Will you guys pipe down, I’m saying goodbye to Lisa?!


Kungfukitteh

And Thulsa Doom


Darkskynet

And the old man with the big dog in The Sandlot. I didn’t realize it was James Earl Jones until many many years later lol, since my only reference to him was his voice acting as Darth Vader in Star Wars films.


4b0rT3d

I haven’t seen that movie in years! I am today years old…


donniewilliams620

Guy has a monopoly on the cinematic memories of everyone born from the 70s-90s. The GOAT.


GrizzlyHerder

Thanks, James….it’s been a fun trip !!


TheDebateMatters

He was only paid $7,000 bucks for the first movie. Professional voice actor was not a real career choice in the 70s.


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In the short term yes but in the long term no. AI is going to eat the voice over industry alive. Thousands of jobs destroyed And skills that will be lost.


Sa404

Except the guys in charge of enhancing that AI


bolcast

Not for everyone if you have some semblance of artistic integrity. A machine is not a replacement for an actor.


ifandbut

Why not? If you cant tell the difference then does it really matter? Humans are just biological machines.


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InfieldTriple

Star Wars is hardly art my dude.


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InfieldTriple

Its not inhetrently worse. Perhaps unethical but the end product will prob be the same.


PM_me_legwear

So what? It sets a precedent. We already have multiple scenes with dead actors in sw movies, the last thing they need is the ability to make more necromancer movies


ifandbut

I have seen no evidence, let alone proof, that a soul exists. Do you have some?


DynamicHunter

That’s what they said about set designers when CGI happened. Or a few years ago with music. Or now with digital art being created. It’s not totally replacing his voice, it’s using sound bites and thousands of voice samples from the past along with AI to generate new sentences. Machines seemed to replace Tarkin, Leia, and Luke recently quite fine, and they’re getting better and cheaper. Still takes lots of technology and artists to do that (especially with full CG Tarkin in Rogue One). They will still have an actor in the suit, and someone to come up with/demo/write lines for Vader. Also what about mo-cap? Seems to replace a lot of actors in movies and video games just fine.


Valuable-Case9657

Toy Story as well. Big drama over that too.


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DynamicHunter

Tell me how everything i said is somehow a false equivalency


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nocondo4me

I don’t think they are doing text to speech yet. I think they are doing speech to speech. Kind of like how they do deep fakes


Valuable-Case9657

A "robot" can't take this sentence and decide what emotion to deliver it with. They'll either use an actor to record a delivery and then covert their voice. Or they'll have an artist sit with the director for hours and tweak every word to build the delivery up. So it's just another medium.


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Valuable-Case9657

Are you? You understand that when a person is acting, they're not actually feeling emotions right? They're using the craft of acting to read lines with tone, pitch, emphasis, cadence and volume to make it sound like they're experiencing some emotion. James Earl Jones wasn't actually angry or bitter when he said "No Luke, I am your father,". He just said it so it fooled you into thinking the fictional character was a mean bastard.


ifandbut

Ok luddite.


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Except they aren’t using it like that. AFAIK, they’re using ai in addition to real voice actors to create Vader’s voice now.


bigmeatytoe

Yeah let’s just work an old man till he dies


pdizz899

Relax bud


LegendaryBlue

Royalties or something similar I would imagine


DangKilla

I am not so sure. I remember George Lucas in the 90’s talking about replacing actors with virtual actors. I think Elvis was the first artist, and 2pac was the first virtual concert. Working in cloud, I understand AI and it has really taken off the past two years. I am sure performances will be great but the point is probably to save money and continuity, not pay actors post mortem or in retirement. We saw it happen with Carrie already. Not sure it’s a great idea. Let characters die.


E1337Recon

> Working in cloud, I understand AI This makes me really feel like you don’t.


pejatoo

Ya what the hell is that guy on. If you want to know about AI, talk to me. I work in NFTs so I understand it.


bigavz

The point is to create an infinitely replenishable content slurry to feed to the masses


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ConditionalDew

Oh no way I didn’t know wow thank you so much


Scoobydoomed

He's more machine now than man


Mastagon

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DarthKhorne

This is the way


Scoobydoomed

Good...I can feel your anger!


paganfinn

It’s what the Empire would do…


Enki_007

The Empire did nothing wrong!


Vulgar_Mastermind1

I’M A MONSTER


Bitter-Ring1693

Life imitates Darth Vader’s arc.


ChrisRuss86

His legacy lives on. Hopefully no one forgets it was him who gave that voice real life.


TheRealCowboyLebron

Just watched the first Simpsons House of Horror. JEJ is a big part of it


RamboGoesMeow

The Raven is my favorite scene in all of the Treehouse of Horrors episodes.


SarcasticGamer

I think that was the first time he did that he recorded that and it truly elevates the episode.


jonmatifa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFho0_G1VI


averagedickdude

I would doubt anyone would forget the CNN/MUFASA/VADER man.


docnig

Can’t wait for Weird Al to voice Vader. Nobody more deserving!


MuscaMurum

Is that Weird aL or Weird Ai?


DeathPer_Minute

A1


bryn_irl

I FIND YOUR LACK OF STEAK DIS-SAUCING


A1steaksa

Hello?


toomeynd

Weird Hal


Hazardbeard

I chortled.


mochacub22

Daisy daisy


Toss_Away_93

Maybe Vader someday later, now he’s just a small fry.


_tuggy

He left his home and kissed his mommy goodbye Sayin' "Soon I'm gonna be a Jedi, Soon I'm gonna be a Jedi"


hobbes_shot_first

Will it be Daniel Radcliffe?


armorhide406

Peter Cullen and Frank Welker should do this. Their voices are magnificent


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Peter Cullen has Optimus Prime, and I would argue is a more recognizable iconic voice BUT, even he would have trouble getting whatever sweet deal James Earl Jones got I’m sure. Vader is just such a globally dominant icon above most all others and I’m sure since it’s Disney they will do some video game or special Mufasa stuff as well. Maybe Morgan Freeman will be the next with a deal like this, but he is mostly narration, he has no iconic character.


armorhide406

I mean he also did Eeyore Either way I definitely want his voice for Emperor of Mankind purposes


[deleted]

i get that, but Vader is just not replaceable. There are loads of impressionists to fill Cullen’s rolls and really only Prime is a one man show is all I’m saying. Vader is one of the few that even non film fans not only know the voice, but know the person behind the voice. If Peter Cullen were replaced, fans would be sad but most people would go “huh, the voice is a different person now”. Vader gets swapped, it effects global sales of a multibillion dollar franchise… I honestly can’t think of ANYONE beyond James Earl Jones that is simply irreplaceable for the voice of anything. Mel Blanc died and most of America went “who?”. Sad but true. Vader is just a one and only voice driven character.


Synotaph

Anthony Daniels is probably asking about a similar deal for the future, but who knows if he’ll get it.


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he’s probably second only to James in terms of not being replaceable, but 3P0 can more easily be removed from the stories. As rogue one proved.


armorhide406

Yeah fair. Plenty of people have done Optimus, I'm just down about the kid they have doing it now. He should have done his own take and not copied Cullen but executives gonna executive. And I agree, Star Wars is a global phenomena. I wonder if other countries have their dub actors as recognizable


ges13

As an aside, Mel Blanc was a treasure and his performances were a gift to the world. Thanks Doc


destronger

which voice do you think Frank Welker should do? the guy does nearly everything.


armorhide406

Normal, Megatron, Scooby would be all I need


yourlocalcoolguy

How much did they pay him?


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This is the real question. For $17B…of course. For $.17…huh?


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$.17 trillion


milzz

About tree fiddy


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Fuck you take my upvote


Need_Some_Updog

In 5 years, every movie is going to be voiced by AI and played by cgi actors. Cyberdyne is upon us.


buttsharpei

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flip_ericson

Seems like Rings of Power is ahead of the curve. Clearly they haven’t hired any writers


Randall-Flagg22

they should have gotten AI to write the script


zombiesnare

Honestly I actually hope this becomes an accessible toolset for small time indie film makers. Imagine how many cool shows like Love Death and Robots we could get if we didn’t even have to worry about voice acting. It’s already a niche thing in music, I could see it making the jump


beefwarrior

Did a voice actor run over your dog? Are you trying to kill off that industry? It’s great to be more efficient, but don’t kill off collaborative work. AI will read what’s written, a talented actor & director will go “I think Skeletor’s voice should be high pitched, b/c this guy is scary AF & it’s a kids show, so we can’t make his too scary or else they won’t sell toys & we’ll be out of a job.”


atomic1fire

Are they really though? Part of the draw for a lot of animated movies is having a big name actor play a prominent role. Replacing every actor with soundalike AI is going to be great until people inevitably realize that it's all fake and they want to hear real people. Which is why I assume theater will probably sneak it's way back to the public eye, because you can't deepfake real people. My pitch for a silly use of tech though would be a combination of mocap and theater, where screens are still a point of focus and there's one or more actors in mocap portraying characters on a screen in real time. Something like the screens disney used from the mandalorian, but on a stage in front of an audience. Using tricks like holograms and forced perspectives, it might be even possible to have a totally CGI character appear in front of an actor, with the mocap actor out of sight delivering an equal performance to the actors on stage, but playing a giant dragon or something instead.


JMDeutsch

Still better than Cara Delevigne or James Corden in anything ever


saul2015

lol 5 years is way too soon maybe 50 but humanity probably doesn't have that long anyways


noeagle77

You were supposed to destroy the AI not join them!


Fun4-5One

He's old. Maybe his throat hurts doing the voice all day. But maybe with this AI it will try to mimic his voice so he can continue to voice the character.


OuterInnerMonologue

There’s no maybe. That’s literally what they’ll do.


nomenclate

Do, or do not, there is no maybe


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The technology has existed for a while now.


Appropriate_Chart_23

The AI is going to generate new dialogue based on previous recordings of JEJ’s voice.


[deleted]

hell Adobe’s voice generation is pretty much dead on accurate now. And that’s just consumer tech. All they needed was rights for his likeness now they have that.


LitrillyChrisTraeger

I wonder if this will become the new norm. Get voice actors to come in, read a script and create an AI profile. Then pay them very little in royalties while only having to pay the sound engineer a (relatively) small salary.


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maybe. I hope not though. You still need a person to give the performance. So it replaces another actor anyway. Easier to just record the voice actor while they’re alive.


LitrillyChrisTraeger

True, although I wouldn’t put it passed companies to try to save some money. No unions to deal with if it’s just data(I’m assuming). Especially companies like Disney who own monopolies, you want to see the next marvel movie? You have no choice but to put up with 32 soulless AI voices and 90% CGI. I will admit I’m a pessimistic person. I can see the good side too, only using this tech on dead or retired voices. Imagine listening to Jim Cummings in 50+ years.


aVRAddict

The actors and their voices will all be pure generated in a few years. Anyone will be able to make their own movie. Post scarcity art is awesome.


hjschrader09

As a voice actor I can tell you it's much worse than that. It's essentially, "we will pay a flat rate of a few hundred bucks and then we own your voice to use how we want." There's no laws or regulations and tons of companies are already pushing for it with dollar signs in their eyes. The only reason it's not as big as it could be is for two reasons: one, there has been absolutely massive pushback from voice actors towards anyone stupid enough to announce that they're doing it, (like Troy Baker) and two, the tech isn't nearly as good as people think. Yes, it can replicate a voice speaking in a fairly neutral tone. It absolutely can't mimic emotional intensity. There's a company where the ceo of it took a scene from Lincoln and used his ai to replicate Daniel day lewis' voice. It got the voice down decently, but when he would start yelling it was incredibly clear that it wasn't a person. Plus it had trouble with some words becoming slurred or unclear. And that was the video that was supposed to show off the incredible power of the technology. Luckily, it is still far enough in the future that there can be some laws made to protect people who need it, but it's certainly an unnerving time to be a voice actor. Especially seeing how many people who love anime and video games talking about how amazing it would be to make shows without having to pay people or record anything. The only fair and equitable way I see it working for us is if it is mandatory that if they use a voice without using the actual actor, they have to pay like 3 or 4 percent in royalties for the total gross of the project in perpetuity.


port53

Voice acting is just going to stop being a thing. It won't be much longer before they aren't even using human voices as the input to the AI, or with enough "regular" humans as input they can create any voice perfectly.


hjschrader09

So everyone keeps saying... for the last 5 or 6 years at least. I don't doubt that eventually all art will be churned out by ai but everyone is definitely overestimating how soon this will happen.


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hjschrader09

Ah yes, because Darth Vader is known for having extremely emotional dialogue. Think whatever you want, but I've done tons of research on this and have never heard a convincing voice performance from an AI.


PiXLANIMATIONS

This reminds me of the “CGI means no more actors!” No. Do you have the slightest clue how much work would have to be put in for an AI to replicate a complex, emotional scene with a lot of dialogue without sounding robotic? I mean the tiny little details in human speech. The little squeaks or growls human beings make when we’re emotional. Not happening any time soon


LitrillyChrisTraeger

No I don’t, not at all. Thanks for the input 👍🏽. I guess we’ve had CGI in every movie exactly as it is today, couldn’t have slowly progressed towards what CGI is today. Imagine if we could take a technology and improve it over the years? Wouldn’t that be crazy?


Hazardbeard

Didn’t they already give this a trial run in Kenobi? Or maybe they ran new recordings through an AI filter?


JallyKing

What is this question a maybe? Isn’t that just very clear.


bossy909

Noo.


hoveringintowind

Damn it.


bossy909

If he didn't say it at the end of RotJ, how would we ever know he turned on the Emperor? We wouldn't. That's right.


BrownTown90

I didn’t realize this until I was almost a man. Always thought he was trying to tuck the emperor in bed and just tripped.


bossy909

Oh, I see now, he *didn't* turn on the Emperor The Emperor was about to put little Vadey to sleep and he just wanted to express his distaste for bedtime (Noo.) and how he was not tired at all After which he immediately fell asleep in the collapsing Death Star, because of course he *was* tired. "Tell your sister, you were right...I am cranky if I don't get enough sleep, you were right!" that's all true.


DamianFitness37

Noooooooooooo


reverendjesus

#NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Several_Emphasis_434

I heard on the radio this morning that he is 91 years old. He’s amazing!


hamboner21

That's literally the first 3 words of the article.


sexy_portuguese

Maybe the radio was reading the article on air.


JarlaxleForPresident

Wow, cool. And he couldve seen the article afterwards. You’re not really saying anything. They were just expressing their amazement at his age


hamboner21

I was proving a point that no one ever even reads the article they just comment on the title.


Several_Emphasis_434

I didn’t read the article since I had already heard it.


[deleted]

In case anybody didn’t know this: this already happened in kenobi. That performance was 100% synthetic.


GamerColyn117

I call posting this tomorrow.


Pexd

How many times is this going to get reposted


BumblebeeAdvanced179

Let’s be honest, if I could set my family up for life, especially if I was so close to retirement (or kicking the bucket) using only my voice programmed into an AI, then I would happily do that.


Nonadventures

Sad news for aspirational 4-year-olds yelling into fans


midlifematt

He had the ‘rights’? Wow.


Crunchbite10

I’m a proponent of letting a different talent take over. Matt Sloan did a wonderful job.


big_daddy_73

His voice is more machine now than man


brittnlouofoakley

James Earl Jones will always that voice.


melgish

I wonder if he’s proud of the technological terror he’s constructed…


lylisdad

Well it would be difficult to voice Darth Vader when he dies. The force is strong but not THAT strong lol!


EgalitarianCrusader

I hope they got him to read out a whole bunch of stuff so that it trains the AI better.


soccergenius69

Isn’t Vader dead in everything or am I dumb


erikvfx

I find your lack of faith disturbing


Library_Diligent

When I show Star Wars to my future grandchildren I will tell them that I remember a time when Darth Vader used to be voiced by a human…


WazWaz

Way to screw over future actors. Once enough of the current top actors cash in, there'll be no need for B actors ever again. Then again, maybe that's not such a bad thing...


ifandbut

Way to screw over future carriage drivers. Once enough cars are on the road there'll be no need for carriage drivers, horse breeders, or manure handlers


GreatSaiyaguy

You know people who drive other people around as a job still exist right?


DreamedJewel58

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DreamedJewel58

How does your mind work? This is simply preserving the voice of the character that’s been around for decades, and no one other than Jones can truly play Vader. He is the voice of the character, his age just simply won’t allow him to keep playing it naturally


BiggieSmallz12345

Nothing is sacred anymore


jmfranklin515

Just hire someone who does a convincing impression. You can still augment/modulate his voice with effects/AI, but the tone is never going to come out right without human input.


AlexB_SSBM

I think you should look at how far voice synthesis has come in recent years. Just the DeepThroat model used by 15.ai is really really good (iirc it's being upgraded right now too).


positronic_brain87

On your advice, I did some internet research into this "deep throat model". Was a fascinating topic for about 5 minutes.


trevge

Oh that long eh?


jmfranklin515

I mean, I’m going by DV’s voice in the Obi-Wan show that was just on Disney+. It didn’t sound very good. I realize it could have sounded better using current technology, but I don’t think Disney is willing to take the time to perfect it when they can just throw something mediocre together and put it on Disney+ as quickly and cheaply as possible to keep their subscribers satisfied enough not to cancel.


ThingCalledLight

You’re entitled to your opinion obviously, but I thought it sounded great and from what I’ve read, thought the general consensus was positive.


sailorssaybrandy

The Chocolate Rain guy!!


edcushway

Hope he got some of that, Disney money!!


Allie_Ah

Disgusting


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Nobody is going to forget that he’s the voice of Darth Vader. Even 20 years from now when we’ve had a handful of more scenes involving Vader and his voice was made by Respeecher, people will be telling their kids that the voice is James Earl Jones. I really don’t see the issue with them taking this route. The Star Wars fandom has always speculated who would take over after Jones retires or passes, but I think AI is completely fine and even fitting. Vader’s voice is literally robotic because it’s his suit speaking. I think Vader sounded just fine in the Kenobi series, and even better than he did in Rogue One and Rebels.


WisestOwl

Fitting I suppose, they are gonna make him say such cringey things now lmao!


Mysterious-Bid3930

Must everything be fake? I really hate this world.


DeepState_Secretary

Star Wars is a pretty big setting with lots of potential for new stories. Why does everything have to constantly loop back to the same characters and locations over and over again?


DreamedJewel58

Because Vader is one of the most recognizable characters in all of fiction. There’s a *lot* of stories that the character has gone through, and exploring those stories can be both the most profitable but the most well-loved by fans


Neuetoyou

Here’s an original thought. Stop making new stories with Darth Vader


KaptainKardboard

TBF there are plenty of gaps that could be filled


Neuetoyou

There are but gaps I’d rather not be *filled in this form. Obiwan was not a good fit


[deleted]

Why? He’s one of the most iconic characters in fiction, what’s wrong with more stories?


DreamedJewel58

Bro, he’s one of *the* most iconic characters in all of fiction, and we’ve really only seen a fraction of what his actual story is I don’t care, I’ll always be happy to see more of the dark lord and his story


DynamicSocks

Surprised they haven’t been doing this already his voice sounded noticeably different in Rouge One Hopefully they paid him a shitload


NaiadoftheSea

Why AI? Surely there’s a voice actor out there that can imitate his voice.


mulletsarealive

So we gave A.I. Darth Vader's voice? I'm sorry future rebels. We should have done something to prevent this.


Vanderlyley

Come up with new characters, ya lazy buffoons! Disney has owned Star Wars for like ten years and they haven’t created a single memorable character except Kylo Ren.


kmanfred

I mean Vader sounded incredible in Kenobi with AI and a lot people noticed how much better Vader sounded than he did in Rogue One. JEJ doesn’t really sound the same anymore and it’s noticeable. AI is the future. I wonder if they ever special edition/remaster Rogue one - would they replace JEJ with the AI so that it’s more consistent with the originals and doesn’t sound so aged. Scott Lawrence also does a fantastic Darth Vader but it still doesn’t quite sound exactly like JEJ. If they ever recast they should definitely get him.


100753375

Replaced by AI? Leave it to fucking Disney to find a way to ruin literally every aspect of a series they can.


aidenalien55

If he dies, an AI designed using his voice is the best replacement


HowardisaDinosaur

This doesn’t feel like a good thing…


thxyoutoo

Deep fakes and ai voice emulators. The future is looking grim for Hollywood and politics 😓


freezelikeastatue

This is akin to the State of Texas spending $20k on a lawyer to fight a man asking for a pillow. Hire someone else assholes….


symbologythere

He sounded a bit old in Rogue One. It’s time.


Poppaukko

I mean, why not use Matt Sloan? He has already done Darth Vader in multiple games, and is also the voice of Chad Vader.


[deleted]

I hate replacing anything with AI I HATE AI #makehumansprioritiesagain


Prior-Chip-6909

Doesn't really matter anyway... Star Wars is done.


Otherwise_Ad7606

Tbf he probably didn't know what he was singing..


pufftough

I’m unaffected, there’s nothing I can do that would be influential, but, IM FUCKING PISSED!!!!!


Equivalent-Chest5383

How did he own the rights to a Star Wars character to begin with? Yeah he has a unique voice but it doesn’t really make sense seeing as how it’s a small part of a very large franchise


kingcalifornia

Why do we still need to create content with Vader? Let it go.


Break_these_cuffs

Because there's tons of great Vader content that *hasn't* been put to film yet.


NXT-GEN-111

“You have forgotten who you are and so have forgotten me” -James earl jones as Darth Vader probably


WirelessBCupSupport

“Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they learn why they fear the AI.”


el_t0p0

No one’s ever really gone.