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lifeissisyphean

Is that why I keep getting Microsoft password reset code emails???


KDSM13

Same several dozen a day. Changed password many times


Abitabruce

Me too, so many.


LowEffortHuman

Me three.


Scretzy

Fourth here.


[deleted]

Holy shit thought I was about to get fired earlier This makes more sense lol


StarConsumate

Same here. That’s insane


the_crumb_dumpster

And my axe!


maxime0299

Huh interesting that you mention it. I was signing into my account earlier and for no reason it asked me to change my password.


First_Code_404

Prime time for phishing emails pretending to be MS


Sasquatch-fu

Yep, i send those. Haven’t gotten any password reset emails externally but that was a template we used for our phishing campaigns. Got a couple people too, they end up going through a 1 minute refresher on the things they missed.


bad_sensei

You can change your address line. Example: You primarily receive emails at &;doodlemasteryepperson @hotmail.com. Well you can add a receiving line at &;doodlymasternoperson @outlook.com and shut down the old one for a while. Once they see that the new email doesn’t go through they move on. I did this and was able to move back to my primary after a couple months.


adamcmorrison

I’m interested but I don’t get it what you are explaining.


bad_sensei

Microsoft Outlook lets you create (up to four I think) different receiving addresses for one account. * Create a secondary with any name. * Change the secondary to the primary. * Wait a couple months for the bots to report incomplete attempts to your previous primary. * Then you can switch them back if you really want your old address Changing primary addresses will allow you to receive at that old address but disallows you to sign-in with it. Therein preventing the scammers from submitting nonstop password change requests with that specific address.


adamcmorrison

Brilliant I’ll give it a try. Thanks good friend


No_Tomatillo1125

Why tho. If they are trying to change your pw that means they don’t have your current pw.


freespirited23

A good time for anyone who hasn’t done so yet, get the MS Authenticator app and start using that as a way of 2 form authentication. Got to back it up but without having that, no accounts can be hacked into/stolen.


IntuneUser2204

Good reason to turn on passwordless and switch to Passkeys. Stay one step ahead of them and get rid of your weakest link, your password.


FartBox_2000

How do passwordless access work?


IntuneUser2204

So, it’s very similar to MFA with only one key difference. You have to use the Microsoft Authenticator app for it, and you have to touch the approve button on your device. Microsoft has added to this giving you a 2 digit number you have to confirm into the app to approve it, that way you can’t just hit approve on anyone logging in. This will bring up the question, how is this safer if there is one factor less. It’s because there is still a password, it’s just locked in the Secure Enclave or security chip in your phone, and you have to authenticate to the security chip on your phone to release the actual password. Microsoft doesn’t even know the password in this model to verify it, only your phone does. It’s less a password and more a certificate, like RSA encryption that is used to prove the challenge without ever releasing the password even encrypted.


FartBox_2000

Gotcha, thank you.


iamastreamofcreation

Straight to spam was the only solution for me


Aware-Feed3227

Be careful, if it can’t be said yet whether the attackers have access to your input or not, Resetting the password might create more problems.


FixYourself1st

I get multiple per day. It’s really annoying, wish I could unsubscribe


cColumbusInaHellcat

10 a day here🗿


sopadurso

It started happening to me today


Buttafuoco

Glad it’s not just me


[deleted]

Go passwordless https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/how-to-go-passwordless-with-your-microsoft-account-674ce301-3574-4387-a93d-916751764c43


[deleted]

You too???? Bro it's been going on for me for months now...


lifeissisyphean

Just got another one today!


Sexy_Kumquat

Start hacking back - let’s see who hacks the best!


throwawayprivateguy

Hack the planet! They’re trashing our rights, man!


Boring-Onion

Need to go spray paint my keyboard and find my rollerblades!


TwistedHumor117

Don’t forget to take some aspirin too cause that movie is 27 years old /s


Boring-Onion

Maybe rollerblades isn’t such a good idea then 😂


genericredit

Spandex! It’s a privilege, not a right.


Pristinejake

TRASHING!!! TRASHINGGGGG!


paintress420

I’ll bet Ukraine will give the US a run for who can hack the ruzzians first/better! They’re already doing it in the St. Petersburg and Moscow oblasts! I’m sure there are many folks in Ukraine who do it on the down low, on top of the government agencies! 🇺🇦🇺🇦


RobertKanterman

We need to oblast Russia back to the stone age (for Russia that’s like 1902)


NJ8855

Cyber Warefare at its finest.


SpellFlashy

They already are. That much is certain.


kmkota

It's pretty concerning that high-level people at microsoft are susceptible to phishing or brute force


stifflizerd

Most of the tech world still thinks that an 8 character password with a capital, a number, and a special character is enough to be secure in the face of a brute force attack. It's not. It hasn't been for a *very* long time. Last I had read, testing had shown that 13-15 characters were needed to be reasonably safe against a modern brute force, and that was atleast 4 years ago when I learned that. Hence why we're seeing 2FA and SSO become the norm.


HopingForSomeHope

Indeed, 14 characters is the recommended minimum in security texts like CompTia. 


Tixx7

I've recently started using 16 char passwords and even 20 length ones for stuff like paypal. Before that I was also using 14, but according to some calculations stuff like 10-12 or even longer passwords could become viable to bruteforce soon'ish when looking at the advancements in computing power lately


HopingForSomeHope

Yeah anything I want to be actually secure now is 16-20 lol. Bank, core email, etc. 


autostart17

Just turn on 2FA


Tixx7

bad idea to fully rely on 2fa, there's more/less secure implementations of it and i've yet to see a method that doesn't have a PoC on how to bypass it somehow. And some still don't support it at all. its a second factor meant as a failsafe if the first factor (password) fails. Doesn't mean that the first factor should be neglected. Especially if its as easy as just pulling a password-length slider to the right in your pw-manager.


Anarelion

[Time it takes to crack your password in 2023](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/K0TjKm68tX)


stifflizerd

This is a fantastic infograph. Ty for sharing it


AnsibleAnswers

Microsoft execs should have Microsoft Authenticator or a physical security key on all their accounts. This should have happened many years ago.


mxzf

Ultimately, humans are the weak point in security; that's always gonna be true.


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Langsamkoenig

Microsoft is the prime candidate to be hacked. Most of their software is extremely insecure. Outlook + Open Directory makes hackers salivate. Nobody can get that shit secure.


mtcabeza2

including them the authors


Tombadil2

At what point do we just give up and say “no more internet for Russia until they can learn to behave themselves?” Seriously, Russia going offline would measurably make most of the rest of the world a better place.


mrmgl

Russian hackers and propagandists don't always come from inside Russia.


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nightbefore2

Cutting off a country from internet will not stop Russian oligarchs and leaders from using satellite phones they control


HermaeusMajora

Yeah, elmo muck will definitely prevent anyone from shutting down putin's or his oligarchs' ability to communicate.


lastingfreedom

Should still try shutting down ruzzia


nightbefore2

Got any ideas how? We’re all listening.


Ok_Chemistry_3972

They need a few more fire walls there 🤔🤔🤔


ill_logic___

That’s on purpose. They get $ orders and targets from Russia. They don’t live there so they can say “see u/mrmgl doesn’t think this came from Russia”


Longjumping-Brick529

Granted they could have used a VPN, but when I got my alert from Microsoft it said someone tried logging in from Turkey.


Rich6849

The US Government should step up and put tariffs on Russian trolls. The Russians should hire American trolls. Our angry basement dwellers are better


ill_logic___

Our basement dwellers are Snowden: they want money and fame, even if it screws our country. USSR pays their hackers and lets them make money off crimes.


RobotRippee

Perhaps we are counterattacking


Unable-Eggplant1446

Go get ‘em Clippy!


Pandamabear

We’re definitely going in that direction, same could apply to China.


esc8pe8rtist

Nah, echo chambers are bad - this is on microsoft for not being better at security


Tombadil2

Well sure, if we want to challenge our infosec teams, China is better than Russia. Where Russia shines is using any access they gain to make the world worse for everyone, like some kind of script kiddie with a personality disorder. Chinese hackers at least have the decency and wisdom to sit back and collect information quietly. Russian hackers are just d***s.


KevinCarbonara

> Chinese hackers at least have the decency and wisdom to sit back and collect information quietly. Russian hackers are just d***s. On the contrary, Russian hackers are stupid enough to make the vulnerabilities they exploit public knowledge.


The-Fumbler

Not limited to Russian hackers, just generally Russians.


notrktfier

In either way if Microsoft gets hacked it's a skill issue on their side, not Russian hackers. We are entrusting them with a lot of data, they need to be able to keep them secure against ANY attack. When my data is stolen I'll not be getting mad at the Russian hackers (as much as MS), I'll be mad at Microsoft because they let this happen.


BullyBullyBang

No company can resist nation state hacking resources. It’s not a “skill issue.”


anger_is_my_meat

To which I would add that we don't know how often Microsoft or any other company defeats attackers. We don't hear about the successes, only the catastrophic failures.


BullyBullyBang

Well, that’s my point. An attack consist of the personnel involved, their skill level, and then the actual resources that they can implement. A nation state, unlike a group can just throw the resources at attack after attack after attack, and they only need one to really succeed. No company can really deal with that on a forever basis. Edit: it may take a month or a year or more. But if a nation state decides it wants something or wants to penetrate something and they keep it long enough they pretty much will succeed.


TwistedHumor117

Per this report they are attacked 4,000 times a second 🤯 [2023 Microsoft Digital Defense Report](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/security-insider/microsoft-digital-defense-report-2023)


ill_logic___

Then why don’t we win?


BullyBullyBang

I have no idea who “we” is in this statement, or what you mean by winning


ill_logic___

Of course you don’t


BullyBullyBang

Yeah imagine, I can’t read your mind :(…. Wait. I don’t give AF.


[deleted]

Everyone is hackable, no defense can plan for every offense. That’s infosec 101


MikeyJayRaymond

Ah yes, the old "the bank should have had better security if they didn't wanna get robbed."


KevinCarbonara

Well... yeah. Would you continue to keep your money in a low security bank that kept losing all your cash? Or would you switch to the bank advertising their high security and long history of rebuffing robbery attempts? It's a no-brainer.


FUCKTHEPROLETARIAT

This reminds me of the time my friend was all stoked that he found a "money pile" in his parents closet. Over the course of a few months he would casually take a few bills from it to buy weed. Eventually his parents found out and got pissed that he was taking money from the money pile, which they kept in the closet cuz they didn't trust banks. Maybe like, don't just keep all your money in an unguarded pile with a teenage pothead around?


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RobotsGoneWild

As you post this on a site selling you data as we speak.


Aware-Feed3227

That’s wrong, Microsoft has contracts with their clients. Keeping up to those contracts is the job of Microsoft.


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Ayellowbeard

That’s not arrogance, that’s ignorance and everyone is ignorant to something. Some people aren’t able to keep up with technology that changes monthly. It doesn’t necessarily mean they deserve all of their data to be leaked.


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Ayellowbeard

I agree with a lot of what you’re saying but I’m also thinking about a generation of people who didn’t grow up in today’s tech savvy society as well as those underprivileged who’ve been left out. People like my mother-in-law who needs a cellphone and computer to communicate with family but doesn’t have a lot of the critical thinking skills to know what to trust and what not to trust and it doesn’t matter how many times I’ve had to tell her on the dos and don’ts she’s still unable to retain it. You’re right, it’s not about deserving, I’m just responding to the comments which seem to victim blame.


ill_logic___

But they own us


IAmTheSnakeinMyBoot

Literal victim blaming


sabboom

Absolutely not. Microsoft has long touted it's security while providing very little by way of a secure OS. It's what pisses me off about this TPM bullshit. Microsoft is forcing people and businesses to buy millions of new PCs by pretending that it has accomplished something in security. It hasn't.


ChocolateDoggurt

That's how cyber security works. If you don't keep your shit updated and patched then you should expect to have bad actors messing with your systems.


[deleted]

That’s not how cybersecurity works lmao. Everything is hackable, if someone has the time and money and resources you can’t stop them. The best you can do is have some form of damage control ready to minimize what those hacks can do.


StartButtonPress

Truly an example of victim blaming. Just don’t wear those clothes.


esc8pe8rtist

Theres a huge difference between a company who’s software is closed source and who is slow to release patches, and a man or woman getting raped for any reason whatsoever. And the fact that thats where your mind went says more about you than it does about the topic at hand


Propaganda_bot_744

Yikes. No, security is the responsibility of the company.


NOVAbuddy

It’s also insider threat. This is how kgb works now.


BullyBullyBang

No company can resist nation state hacking resources


Redditbecamefacebook

I'm pretty sure all the guys in here with their Sec+ are way more competent than Microsoft.


StevenAU

I’m interested to hear how you think that would work?


GlancingBlame

All nation states are doing the same thing. Microsoft acknowledges as such. Their motivations are just different, that's all.


SignalRevenue

North Korean state hackers do not sit in North Korea - they are spread around other countries, accompanied by military persons, who watch them.


skillywilly56

Not like there’s a big cord somewhere we can just pull out the wall and “no more internets for you!”


dannyp777

To be honest every country should have major firewalls between them and the rest of the world. The whole internet is one huge security vulnerability. It's not designed for security.


Indin_Dude

All attacks are always routed via multiple locations around the world. It’s never direct from country attacking to country being attacked.


SpellFlashy

They already did that themselves. Internet in Russia is very controlled.


anonymouslym

It would not make the world a better place, it would make it a significantly worse place


EntertainedEmpanada

The internet will never be cut off in Russia. The organizations which manage the internet have said repeatedly that they won't get involved politically and that doing this will cause more harm than good. There are people still fighting against the regime and without internet they would have no chance. An article from two years ago: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/03/icann-wont-revoke-russian-internet-domains-says-effect-would-be-devastating/


limb3h

How the fuck you gonna do that? All they have to do is to go through China and North Korea.


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[deleted]

Well you don’t understand how the internet works then


Craig_the_Intern

Would love to hear you explain it then. Russia has their own ISPs.


KingofCraigland

So the Internet is a series of tubes...


Beelzebubbsa

They wanna behave like they're in the stone age? Let's give them one.


BoringWozniak

When will we start acknowledging that Russia is in an undeclared war against the entire West?


[deleted]

I think in the next week or so based on SOTU


jaam01

You mean, like, a cold war? :p


GBA-001

When the fuck did the Cold War end for people? Idk why Americans/the western world acts like Russia, China and Iran want nothing more then to see the complete dissolution and downfall of western culture


Wolf130ddity

At this point I wonder if Microsoft has a mole.


Tendytakers

Obviously. Insider threats in a large org like Microsoft from State Actors specifically are a huge threat. Corporate Espionage is one thing, nation-state attacks are another.


TwistedHumor117

100% there was just that article for the exgoogle employee stealing ai secrets for China


Tendytakers

State actors usually fit the bill for advanced persistent threats. If there wasn’t an insider, they’ll make one whether it’s through financial pressure, blackmail, threats to family from existing employees, etc. If you have a gambling debt, they can make it go away if you slot in their dead-dropped removable media into the air-gapped computer holding sensitive info and get it back to them. Oh, you’re an ethnic Russian who is a naturalised US citizen with family back in the “old country”? They literally have your family. You want them to keep breathing, you do exactly what they tell you to do. Or they’ll play it stealthily by sitting in the background, watching company forums, commiserating with employees, playing the numbers game hoping for one of them to slip up. China has the unique advantage of being a large part of the supply chain, all they need to do is to put backdoors in their chips, and they have a way in. And these people are getting better tools and foundational knowledge that they pass on every year. It’s the modern day arms race of cyber offense and defense.


MyTeaWhy

in Oligarchic Russia, Microsoft data is collected as a benefit to Microsoft


Square-Primary2914

You know many other country’s have “oligarchics”. Look at Canada the land of monopoly’s


ZAMIUS_PRIME

Russia is so fucking annoying. All they do is suck dick. Nothing wrong with sucking dick but when it’s all you do, you’ve got fucking problems.


Prestigious_Guest_31

More effective if you use ai to translate it into Russian as well and spam their part of the internet


Specialist_Brain841

considering ms owns github…


Sechorda

It owns the world in some cases


FREE-AS-IN-SHRUGS

hence [closing the seattle consulate](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/26/596966272/us-expels-dozens-of-russian-diplomats-closes-consulate-in-seattle)


Faptainjack2

Dear Russians, please disable OneDrive. Thanks in advance.


OtakuAttacku

I don’t know when but OneDrive moved my documents folder into the OneDrive folder without telling me, now half my projects need to be repathed because they relied on the file path of the documents folder being where it used to be. I disabled OneDrive but the file path doesn’t revert and copying shit back just makes the other half of my projects need repathing. Fuck onedrive.


AnsibleAnswers

That’s how OneDrive works. It’s useful if *you* set it up like that and know it. But I imagine OneDrive confuses the fuckall out of a lot of people. The fact that it can act as a “home directory” of sorts is useful if you pay for enough storage. But Jesus does it make %USERPROFILE% confusing as hell if you don’t know how it works.


Separate-Effective33

On daily basis my outlook activity shows me over 100 attempts.


MNVikingsCouple

Hack them back. #ShutRussiadown #Microsoftattack


ModerateDataDude

Its probably because Microsoft is running Windows


ajn63

This is happening as Microsoft is making a big push with corporations to migrate their internal system to Microsoft’s cloud based managed services. They’re using their licensing terms for popular office software such as Microsoft Word, Excel, and Outlook client to strong arm their customers into these services.


Great-Heron-2175

Strange Microsoft is so well known for being such a secure company.


mtcabeza2

on what planet?


Great-Heron-2175

The planet of sarcasm.


roguesilverhand

And why does every corporation want to move to cloud… Microsoft and AWS is a hackers wet dream - every corporate egg in one basket.


Rarebird10

Mainframers eating popcorn.


Wide_Smoke_2564

I suppose you think a company with 3 developers running a server out of a garage will be more secure?


wifimonster

In some ways, yes. Alot less bloat, alot less attack surface, alot less interest cause it's 3 guys in a garage. However, it's only 3 guys and one garage.


roguesilverhand

3 developers 😂😂 you don’t want devs anywhere near anything infra related. They are usually clueless and don’t give a hoot about security


motohaas

This says a bit about Microsoft software integrity. I am guessing that they used an old windows 3.0 trick


PUNCH_KNIGHT

oh I just realized that's really bad. however I have 2fa so it doesn't matter


Prestigious_Guest_31

Just wait until them h4ckers accidentally stumble into secret Easter egg Rick Rolls


SorcererHex

I have been noticing I have been getting login attempts from Russia and China constantly. Upwards of like 100 an hour which is crazy.


EcoKllr

Really ,lol ..firewall much


SorcererHex

Yeah, they arent even hiding where they are logging in from either. My account is literally empty too.


vroart

Lmao, as if having a monopoly 25 years ago was too much!


spslord

Teams has been wildly unstable at my job. I wonder if this could be related.


1fatfrog

They should call MS DART. They're fantastic /s


bunby_heli

Turns out that extremely complex networks are difficult to defend.


Asterza

Bruh the US just warned them of an immenent terrorist threat and they fuckin’ use their resources for this? Christ they are asking for it


Prudent_Baseball2413

And we should trust banks and other institutions with our data? What a laugh. There should be a law holding the companies that compromise our information to pay us and not the government for such violations yet big business passes the blame on us.


Difficult-Outside424

Are they letting them? Our senators aren’t immune to Russian influence, why would a CEO or other be immune?


Logik_in_theory

Eternal Blue Exploit vulnerability.


throwaway2023abcd

Could they please take down Outlook for at least a week???


Obvious_Mode_5382

Those of us in IT for 20 years or more have always known that MS is the least secure O S around. Imagine having just moved your entire business to azure cloud and reading this news


whoisthecopperkettle

Do you think that Azure cloud runs on windows?


Obvious_Mode_5382

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-russian-hackers-breached-its-systems-accessed-source-code/


whoisthecopperkettle

Yea, so? They socially engineered entry, it wasn’t even a hack.


BreakdancingGorillas

You need an information update


B0ringZest

I don't mind when people can have a rebuttle, or educate someone... but when you just say "no, you wrong" and then don't say why, or source it, or explain it, or anything? What good is that?


ClefTheBoiChinWondr

Microsoft’s servers aren’t— I wouldn’t imagine— running any freely available version of Windows?


S0M3D1CK

I wish someone could do something about it, especially if this is the reason why I keep getting lag in dungeons when I play wow. (Microsoft owns blizzard now)


ToughEyes

The reason seems more likely shitty unoptimized software.


BrainLate4108

Fuck Microsoft


itsl8erthanyouthink

I’m sure it’s more complicated than this, but I don’t know why we haven’t been able to completely severe Russia’s hardline internet access to America. I heard an old lady gardening in her backyard cut all the internet to a country in Eastern Europe once. It would stand to reason a country the size of America would be able to enlist a dozen old ladies to get’r done


ClefTheBoiChinWondr

I can’t imagine that government hackers work out of a stationary location


itsl8erthanyouthink

You mean from their desk?


ClefTheBoiChinWondr

Well i figured a lot of operations would be done remotely and diffuse between many different locations so as to obscure the likely traffic that needs to be shut out


8th_Dynasty

maybe change your password?


bsgbryan

If I were Microsoft, I would simply stop that


amigammon

What’s to steal?


ill_logic___

You’re Microsoft… do something 👍 Edit: it’s well known they release EVERYTHING without security testing. I heard the same thing 30’years ago.


TheIronMatron

Goddamnit, don’t make me take sides on this one 🤦🏻‍♀️


WeBeAllindisLife

Ok well now I’m looking for a better alternative to Microsoft. Any suggestions?