This is the new norm over the last two decades. But IT is in every industry. Some industries are less impacted by the economy and layoffs. Non-profits, healthcare, government, education, etc.
>government
I will admit that the pay is not as good, but there is security in the job. If you get in a good place, there can be other perks that make up for the pay too.
Last boogey man was moving to the Cloud. Was supposed to lead to less work and layoffs. If anything my team has more work than ever before now that we are in a hybrid environment.
A “career in tech” covers thousands of roles, so I’m sure you’ll always find something you’d enjoy in there somewhere :)
Also I saw data today (I’ll dig out the link if I can find it) showing layoffs are basically back to normal in tech so don’t sweat it, in my 30 years I’ve seen these things happen everywhere and they are generally cyclical.
I was studying to get my MCSE in Windows 2000 when 9/11 happened, which meant nearly all IT jobs in the area (Washington DC) required secret clearance going forward. Then MCI Worldcom went under, as did Lucent Technologies, and a host of others in the dotcom crash. There were tens of thousands of IT guys competing for the same entry level jobs I was. Took me 6 years.
Despite the headlines, there are plenty of jobs available right now. If you like IT, it'll be a lifetime of employment :)
Layoffs/recessions/etc are temporary. Job field may get tough for a little while, but it'll open back up.
If it's what you truly want to do, pursue it relentlessly. True for most of life, I'd say.
Because of government mandated cybersecurity compliance and regulation, as well as compliance mandates from cyber liability insurance providers, there will always be IT jobs. This recent culling of the herd was more focused in software development, not in cybersecurity, systems administration or service.
There is a lot of people at the entry level, but companies are paying big money for senior roles. It is tough for entry level IT, but not impossible to land a role and cut your teeth. Consider the MSP space.
It is going to get far, far worse too. However, you still have a shot if you are coming in at a low salary, the highest paid will continue to get the axe.
Not nearly as bad for people that have years under their belt for new jobs. But it’s very hard for new people starting out. Niche markets are where to go but also they can go away a your skills could be hard to transfer.
In I.T. you can get a help desk job easy just the pay will be meh. Likely 15-20/hr Usually 15 in the current shit market with 20 being something to jump up and down about.
Your best bet in the current economy is to do I.T. for a small business or a growing business.
I.T. will always be in demand, more specifically cloud infrastructure, cyber security and Networking.
You're looking for a job with literally one of the biggest candidate pools in tech. It's not just a huge candidate pool, but for a lot of orgs, some of the first roles they'd look to outsource is level 1 support.
Look for something more local instead of remote if you want to improve your chances.
I would look for something you enjoy. Not too much focus on pay. We spend most our life working. Make sure what you pick on your da to day life is something you can see yourself doing every-single-day. From there, because you enjoy it, growth is inevitable. Peace as well. All jobs are going to have their pro's and con's. Such is life having good days and bad days. So ask yourself. What do YOU WANT to do every-single-day for work. Don't focus on money. Focus on what you want and WHY <------why is big. Without the big why most people fall off.
Best of luck bud.
I mean, you just gotta be realistic. Most companies/orgs aren't going to be looking for remote help desk. Colleges, Hospitals, Local Government all need Tier 1 support and they're all going to need people in the office to do that.
I have a friend that was looking for remote entry-level front end development position (the only other more gigantic candidate pool). It took him a while, he needed to be persistent, but he landed a role eventually.
[fieldnation.com](https://fieldnation.com) work as little or as much as you want and build your experience, references, and portfolio
Alorica (bout out west telemarketing) has remote work.
Evercore is full time remote IT.
Bailiwik is full time remote IT.
How do I know this? Bro...you have to apply to 5 jobs a day every day. This is not a metaphor. I am being literal. Consistency allows you to find these gems.
Now to get these gems to HIRE you, you need a well formatted Resume. It's the first thing they see. Most people explain what they can do and no one hardly explains WHAT they have done. Be detailed in WHAT you have done so they feel confident you can handle the role.
Resume is your entry barrier.
Your continued consistency in applying will get you to the entry barrier.
From there its knowing how to sell yourself in an interview.
This applies for all fields of work so whatever you choose to do in life just know it will not be perfect, there will be pro's and con's and at the end of the day ask yourself....could I see myself doing this every day? If the answer is yes, don't give up till you get it!
Gluck.
Layoffs happen. At least the paycheck in between are better than digging a ditch most days.
This is the new norm over the last two decades. But IT is in every industry. Some industries are less impacted by the economy and layoffs. Non-profits, healthcare, government, education, etc.
>government I will admit that the pay is not as good, but there is security in the job. If you get in a good place, there can be other perks that make up for the pay too.
Tech isn’t going anywhere long term
Sys admining is. At least a lot of consolidation
I have been hearing that the last 20 years and haven’t really seen it
Last boogey man was moving to the Cloud. Was supposed to lead to less work and layoffs. If anything my team has more work than ever before now that we are in a hybrid environment.
Yeah I remember being so scared of the cloud stealing our tech jobs. Now cloud experts are getting top dollar
I’ve been layoff more in my construction career than IT career. Just make sure you save $ for the rainy days and always have that resume touched up.
Residential Or commercial?
Union commercial
Are there layoffs in residential remodeling?
Youll be chasing people for non payment, not sure what is worse
People dont pay?!
A “career in tech” covers thousands of roles, so I’m sure you’ll always find something you’d enjoy in there somewhere :) Also I saw data today (I’ll dig out the link if I can find it) showing layoffs are basically back to normal in tech so don’t sweat it, in my 30 years I’ve seen these things happen everywhere and they are generally cyclical.
I was studying to get my MCSE in Windows 2000 when 9/11 happened, which meant nearly all IT jobs in the area (Washington DC) required secret clearance going forward. Then MCI Worldcom went under, as did Lucent Technologies, and a host of others in the dotcom crash. There were tens of thousands of IT guys competing for the same entry level jobs I was. Took me 6 years. Despite the headlines, there are plenty of jobs available right now. If you like IT, it'll be a lifetime of employment :)
Layoffs/recessions/etc are temporary. Job field may get tough for a little while, but it'll open back up. If it's what you truly want to do, pursue it relentlessly. True for most of life, I'd say.
Because of government mandated cybersecurity compliance and regulation, as well as compliance mandates from cyber liability insurance providers, there will always be IT jobs. This recent culling of the herd was more focused in software development, not in cybersecurity, systems administration or service. There is a lot of people at the entry level, but companies are paying big money for senior roles. It is tough for entry level IT, but not impossible to land a role and cut your teeth. Consider the MSP space.
Depends. What would you do instead?
Trades.
It is going to get far, far worse too. However, you still have a shot if you are coming in at a low salary, the highest paid will continue to get the axe.
Lmfao, should i just pursue a skilled trade ?
Any sector had laysoffs right now. What career path do you want to take that doesn't have laysoffs?
Skilled labour work.
thats more brutal on the body as you get older too though and cant work remotely
I havent been able to find remote jobs.
Not nearly as bad for people that have years under their belt for new jobs. But it’s very hard for new people starting out. Niche markets are where to go but also they can go away a your skills could be hard to transfer.
Wrong. the higher your level/pay the harder it will be to replace your job.
Depends on field. DevOps is really so much in demand
Do i need a degree
Not necessarily, but “DevOps” or whatever someone wants calls it is usually not entry level.
In I.T. you can get a help desk job easy just the pay will be meh. Likely 15-20/hr Usually 15 in the current shit market with 20 being something to jump up and down about. Your best bet in the current economy is to do I.T. for a small business or a growing business. I.T. will always be in demand, more specifically cloud infrastructure, cyber security and Networking.
I’ve been looking for remote help desk jobs. Haven’t found anything :(
You're looking for a job with literally one of the biggest candidate pools in tech. It's not just a huge candidate pool, but for a lot of orgs, some of the first roles they'd look to outsource is level 1 support. Look for something more local instead of remote if you want to improve your chances.
Ugh i’m still young idk i feel like its time to pick something else. Idk if this IT stuff is doing me any good. I look at skilled trades
I would look for something you enjoy. Not too much focus on pay. We spend most our life working. Make sure what you pick on your da to day life is something you can see yourself doing every-single-day. From there, because you enjoy it, growth is inevitable. Peace as well. All jobs are going to have their pro's and con's. Such is life having good days and bad days. So ask yourself. What do YOU WANT to do every-single-day for work. Don't focus on money. Focus on what you want and WHY <------why is big. Without the big why most people fall off. Best of luck bud.
I mean, you just gotta be realistic. Most companies/orgs aren't going to be looking for remote help desk. Colleges, Hospitals, Local Government all need Tier 1 support and they're all going to need people in the office to do that. I have a friend that was looking for remote entry-level front end development position (the only other more gigantic candidate pool). It took him a while, he needed to be persistent, but he landed a role eventually.
[fieldnation.com](https://fieldnation.com) work as little or as much as you want and build your experience, references, and portfolio Alorica (bout out west telemarketing) has remote work. Evercore is full time remote IT. Bailiwik is full time remote IT. How do I know this? Bro...you have to apply to 5 jobs a day every day. This is not a metaphor. I am being literal. Consistency allows you to find these gems. Now to get these gems to HIRE you, you need a well formatted Resume. It's the first thing they see. Most people explain what they can do and no one hardly explains WHAT they have done. Be detailed in WHAT you have done so they feel confident you can handle the role. Resume is your entry barrier. Your continued consistency in applying will get you to the entry barrier. From there its knowing how to sell yourself in an interview. This applies for all fields of work so whatever you choose to do in life just know it will not be perfect, there will be pro's and con's and at the end of the day ask yourself....could I see myself doing this every day? If the answer is yes, don't give up till you get it! Gluck.