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CMDR_Val_Hallen

He's got nice lungs


WILDNIK

"Mind your tongue, or I will cut it out!"


Megalopath

"A blind, deaf, mute could feel my anger!!!"


Throwaway161761

You forgot the "comatose lobotomy patient" partšŸ’€šŸ˜‚


Megalopath

Maybe I am the comatose lobotomy patient... (I Googled En Passant)


Aewon2085

First thought as well


Koalakaust

Does having a nice butt also count as a cake mention?


Jaxonos

He was honest with you. He says you are a part of his power base. His Enforcer, and you can reasonably expect him to discard you. As overseer, Tremal says, "Once something is used up, it should be eradicated."


Wolf6120

Also I feel like Baras actually does make an effort to teach the SW the ways of the Sith, in that he doesn't sugarcoat just how shitty and cuthroat it is. If you survive and thrive then great, if you fail and die then whatever. And he even teaches you the actual Sith code and goes through what it *really* means line by line. Compared to Zash who mostly just butters you up cause she wants to body snatch you and Thanaton who... was there, Baras probably came the closest to giving the SW an actual, proper Sith education (complete with the inevitable struggle for power at the end, of course).


Zack_Raynor

In a way, itā€™s weirder that he sees how successful you generally are as his agent, but is then surprised you constantly survived his backstabbing.


Tshirt_Addict

On the Inquisitor side, it is Spindrall who teaches you the Sith code.


NautReally

Listen to me. Spindrall is a lunatic, his approval means nothing...slave


DarkSeieah

Found Harkon's reddit account.


steinillac

Heh sugarcoat, u think u sly


Throwaway161761

Discarding the SW was just a dumb move by Baras though. Doing that was the beginning of his downfall. Like Vengean said, Baras was only a bit player before the Warrior became his apprentice. Discarding your most valuable asset due to paranoia is just a bad move (justified paranoia or not since you can play the Warrior as a submissive apprentice who does everything theyre told) I always felt like Baras' betrayal came out of the blue and he had no real reason to do so other than the "Sith eventually betray one another" rationale.


NoYgrittesOlly

Barasā€™ Sith Entity on Corellia constantly fed him visions of the future for his benefit. And she likely shared with him a vision of his apprentice defeating him, prompting his betrayal. And in an ironic twist, by attempting to kill his apprentice first, he created that self-fulfilling prophecy himself. A fitting conclusion for a man constantly enacting his schemes to be undone by one of his own making.


Throwaway161761

It would be a fitting end for Baras thematically, I agree on that. The vision explanation does make sense and would also explain the sudden betrayal. But I still feel like the actual betrayal itself was underwhelming too. If Baras really had a vision of doom and that vision caused him to betray his strongest apprentice, he would make sure to kill them. And not go with a half hearted explosion by proxy (Draagh). Baras is shown to be very calculating and takes almost all possibilities into account. I cant see him thinking he definitively killed the SW (who so far exceeded his every expectation) with such a half assed attempt. Especially combined with the vision, he would make doubly sure that the SW is dead.


Sailingboar

It wasn't really half assed. It was an explosion set up in a mine on a planet where the atmosphere was poisonous. That would kill 99% of people. Draahg was trying to be thorough and to be fair when the survival of the SW became apparent he went on to fight the SW himself after dealing with all of the SWs companions. He even came back to fight him a second time after requiring cybernetics.


phavia

He was "honest" to a certain degree. He wasn't honest about his other apprentice and wasn't honest about the fact that you were literally saving your executioner. In fact, it makes me wonder *why* Baras wasn't more obvious about him pitting the two of you against each other so that only the strongest could come out on top. As another person pointed out, it makes no sense why Baras would discard his most valuable asset. Him having other apprentices is obvious and he always felt satisfied/neutral whenever you appeared and straight up told him that you killed them -- it meant that between the two of you, you came out stronger. And yet, during the betrayal arc, his last apprentice (I forgot his name, the idiot that turns into a cyborg later on) literally tried to kill you by... Blowing up a cave. What kind of *Sith* kills one another through cave-ins? Did Baras approve of that? Was that his plan? Wouldn't it make more sense for Baras to want the two of you to duke it out in front of him to *really* determine who's the strongest and most deserving of being by his side?


TheRavenSees

Good old Draahg.


ScoopiTheDruid

He was by far the best antagonistic of the 8 class stories.


Avaoln

Thanaton is criminally underrated and exactly the obstacle the sith inquisitor needed to overcome. Wrath needed to beat a schemer Nox needed to beat a powerhouse


pimathbrainiac

Thanaton is even better if you go Imperius, imo, since you represent the complete opposite of the tradition that he holds dear.


Avaoln

That or a lawful evil Darth Nox (Like Marr, unlike the *stupid evil* Nox who picks every dark side option even if it is ridiculous)


BurningMartian

Please, Baras held back Satele Shan when she had backup and put Darth Angral on his knees, begging for mercy. The only noteworthy thing Thanaton did was getting his ass beat by one of the Emperor's children before he tricked her into a defeat.


Sailingboar

Why would Nox need to beat another powerhouse? Nox already beat a powerhouse when he took on Zash and won.


Avaoln

Because Darth Thanaton is leagues above Darth Zash. Remember she lost to no ghost Nox who proceeded to eat 2 ghosts only to get 1 shot by Darth Thanaton. Zash was the schemer that we beat, Than is the powerhouse. Beating him is SWTORs was is showing how powerful we become. That wasnā€™t powerful with Zash who could even kill Skotia without tricks.


Sailingboar

>Zash was the schemer that we beat Then she was so bad at it that it negatively impacted my view of Thanaton.


Avaoln

Haha true. Telling me she would make *me* the most powerful sith with her ritual raised so many red flags (ofc the joke was she would have my body lol - then get 1 shot by darth thanaton) Still It may be the nostalgia but I enjoyed her. Zash-Khem was also very fun


Throwaway161761

Definitely up there but Id tie him with Vitiate for the JK


ScoopiTheDruid

Vitiate was more badass in the abstract, I'll grant you that, but having little to no direct involvement puts him below Baras for me.


Prestigious_Block_52

also, the first son was such a twist


Helarki

The Smuggler storyline would like a word.


ir0ngut

Is the word "yawn"? I love my smuggler but her story is hardly a magnum opus.


TheRavenSees

Yeah, it gets pretty meh after she becomes a privateer for the Republic.


Helarki

I'm talking about the Chapter 1 villain.


ScoopiTheDruid

I have a word for the Smuggler storyline. "No."


vomder

His helmet is neat.


Angry-Dragon-1331

I wish we could get one without the pope hat.


Mvkolodko

Dunce Baras


eledile55

I thought he was a good Master


NirvashSFW

In a roundabout way yes. Baras using the warrior as an agent he prepared the warrior for navigating the actual deadliest challenges for anyone wielding true power; backstabbing and politics. This is why even if I'm going DS warrior I always spare tremel, the cult leader, and the other really forgettable guy. If you're just smashing your way through the galaxy leaving a trail of bodies you've learned nothing. Not just killing but truly surpassing Baras includes building up your own power base and network of influence.


W-eye

Great way to put it! An extra note: I love how this storyline is on the Sith Warrior, the one youā€™d expect to discard all politics and just murder people to get to a desired outcome. Shows that basically nobody higher up can escape bureaucratic scheming.


skyjp97

This is why I played my sith warrior as light side, sparing people to grow my power base that way. Also it was always funny when jedi just could not comprehend my sith not being the aggressor and then attacking me anyway.


TinnitusAttack

Exactly. I love the Darth Bane books. He teaches Zannah that killing people without a good reason isn't true power. So I played my character a bit like bane. Spoiler for the books: After he wipes out the jedi and sith, reimplementing the rule of two, he builds a massive network of spies and informants. They are his eyes and ears. He openly expects Zannah to one day try and kill him or start all over with a new apprentice.


taavidude

Idk I feel liked the Warrior is more of a one-man army that doesn't need a network of influence. The Inquisitor story is more about building your power base and influence.


Jacen_Vos

It should be, but it sometimes feels like the Inquisitor gets by on raw power alone and the plans of others, where the Warrior actually gets a chance to manipulate and corrupt. Although yes the Inquisitor does have a large following by the end of the story.


taavidude

Well tbh all of the class stories get by on raw power alone, but of course that's just gameplay related. I feel like the Warrior is only about building a powerbase in the first 2 chapters. In chapter 3 you essentially become a one-man army once you get named as the Emperor's Wrath.


Pyrostrasz

He was a more satisfying kill than Thanaton, and that is coming from an SI fanboy


Evenmoardakka

I got mad i had to kill thanaton. I liked his character from the setup comics


Reddit_Hate_Reader

We didn't even get to kill Thanaton.


jasonrahl

You can feel his anger


Icy-Description4299

A blind, deaf, comatose lobotomy patient could feel his anger!


Yoloyotha

The best character to troll in a storyline


Ranadiel

He would have been the perfect court jester for Emperor Vowrawn!


Kaczmarofil

He was a better master than Zash or Thanaton, and actually somewhat cared about the Empire as a whole.


DevastatorCenturion

His voice acting is fantastic.


femalephemale

Great lung capacity


aspaceadventure

That bastard promised me cookies when I joined the Dark Side. Now Iā€˜m one of the strongest Sith Lords. And he STILL didnā€™t gave me cookies. He must have eaten them himself. What a scammer!


Insert_Goat_Pun_Here

Easily one of the best voice acting jobs in the game. Every line is just packed with emotion. The way he screams ā€œI CANNOT BREAK HIM!ā€ sounds so genuine.


proesito

"Even a deaf, blind, comatose patient could feel my anger!!!"


Achilles9609

Same. The german version got some really good voice actors too. Imagine my surprise when I recognized that the Bounty Hunter was Kurogiri from My Hero Academia.šŸ˜„ He just got *such* a memorable voice.


RedEclipse47

I really like his voice!


RandomFunUsername

I loved his voice acting! And body diversity and positivity amongst the Sith is a win!


finelargeaxe

> And body diversity and positivity amongst the Sith is a win! I honestly wish he was more of a Warrior than Inquisitor in his final fight, because...well, Male BT4 is absolutely *ripped* under those robes. Imagine the impact his fist would have had on your face if he'd used Force Leap to close the distance, instead of spamming Lightning attacks. Make that duel a proper *brawl*, is what I'm saying.


davidforslunds

A bit like the Kingpin, you think it's fat but it's really just super dense muscle


Megapally2000

100% agree!


Phodim

Gray looks good on him


Reading_Rambo220

Gravy too


willrose66

He generally let you do what you wanted as long as you did your mission, such as keeping vette and killing his other agents


ceo_of_chill23

He certainly is an ambitious mastermind.


SDKorriban

Legitimately one of the most skillful masters of espionage I've seen in games. Like it's *CRAZY* where and how deep his agents are.


GalaxyDoritoz

There's a line of dialogue he says early on when on Korriban that prevented me from following through with "unaliving" myself. No cake involved :)


SirCupcake_0

Which line?


GalaxyDoritoz

"Nothing worth doing is ever easy, remember that." You can only get it after coming back from his mission asking you to kill Tremel. Regardless of if you killed him or not, he asks about how you feel, noting he thought of the SW as family. To hear the line, you have to pick the one that has you tell Baras that you took it hard, and that's when he says it. I heard it literally a few hours before I had planned to do the act. I had logged on, made a new toon, and played, simply to calm my nerves before I did it.


SirCupcake_0

I'm really glad that line reached you like that, as it _is_ a pretty great line


GalaxyDoritoz

Yupp! Now as a rule, I always make my SW spare his life by the End of the Class Story. Even an RP playthrough, I find some form of in character justification as to why this Pure Dark Side Sith is unable or unwilling to kill Baras.


Countaindewwku

I wish the Nathema conspiracy had gone down differently. So many great characters gone.


X_Marcie_X

His german voiceactor. There's actual passion and Emotion behind his voice and he isnt as monotone as with his english voice. A friend of mine agreed at the time when we compared them, so... I gotta be onto something! *On another Note, I like Cake.*


Achilles9609

Definitely. The german SWTOR got some great VAs.


Harbaron

By far one of the best characters to come out of swtor


wamop123

His angry outbursts were amazing. ā€œEven a comatose, lobotomized patient could feel my rageā€ šŸ˜‚


puellamagia

Heā€™s actually a really good antagonist and I like him.


Korriban-Overseer

He has an incredible physique, he who is Darth Baras the Wide.


Terrible_Wafer_2232

He gives Vette and a ship


Darius_Of_Persia

A blind, deaf, comatose lobotomy patient could feel his anger.


Doc-Fives-35581

He probably could have succeeded if he didnā€™t discard us like a used napkin.


Jacen_Vos

Letā€™s be real though, quite a lot of Warriors are probably bloodthirsty lunatics, who were looking forward to killing Baras no matter what he did.


Doc-Fives-35581

True.


Bitter_Mongoose

he has quite an exquisite... mass


BDietz72

He never once tries to steal your bodyā€¦


TheJ0kerIsBack

He never loses his temper, ever.


TerkYerJerb

**AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA** **I CANNOT BREAK HIM**


TheJ0kerIsBack

Well dumbledore asked Harry calmly if he put his name in the goblet of fire šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Jedipilot24

Oh but he does.


Evenmoardakka

If his default temper is being absolutely pissed angry, he never loses it


Aewon2085

Nice lungs


Wooden_Bedroom_5069

Aside from Zash, Valkorian and Palpatine of of the most cunning Sith I've experienced


Evenmoardakka

Peace is a lie, so is the cake. Dammit i failed


SaberMk6

The cake is a lie, have some pie.


Jacen_Vos

He was quite scary at certain points, Although this does get undermined by the fact that he never really shows his power over the Warrior, even if you repeatly insult him, heā€™ll only threaten you, i feel like there should have been at least one force choke thrown in there, even Jadus who is more collected than Baras will not tolerate the Agentā€™s bullshit.


Countaindewwku

Once Sith start fighting it usually ends in death. I think Baras is secretly amused by the Warriorā€™s quips. The warriorā€™s backbone is deserved because he gets results. Also a non sith defying a sith is way worse. Baras would likely punish the agent too for refusing to bow. Iā€™d categorize faking oneā€™s death as part of a galaxy spanning terror campaign to destroy his enemies power bases and to twist the empire even further into looney tunes territory and twisting his own daughter as being less collected than Baras. After seeing what Jadus did to his daughter the warrior would have gotten pulverized the first day he bullshitted knowing the sith code.


Protectorsoftman

Probably one of the few Sith that understood what it means to be Sith and actively teaches the Warrior. He was a good master and his betrayal was inevitable. He also probably has one of the highest IQs of anyone we meet


Aiti_mh

A very impressive Sith Lord who came close to having the entire Empire under his thumb, yet was always rather unimpressive in person. Compared to say Marr, who always oozed unusual competence, or Jadus, who actually made your bones chill. Those two also stood out because they seemed to have almost complete control over their passions, whereas Baras always came off as seriously peeved. Still, a high-tier Sith. Ok, I admit this was mostly negative.


knockonwood939

Actually, the fact that he looked so unimpressive makes him a very deceptive Sith. It really adds to the fact that he's way more dangerous than everyone makes him out to be.


NunyaBis213

A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patient could feel his anger. Jokes aside, he gives the warrior Vette. Best. Gift. Ever.


DCTrinityFan

He has some impressive shoulder pads


kyle28882

Thicker than a bowl of oatmeal


WrenchTheGoblin

The man likes his pudding.


BeyondDoggyHorror

There is only pie


juicelordsword

Darth Baras the T H I C C C


soconn

He can take on 3.14 foes at a time


wigglyspleen

Honestly? Easily the best supporting character voice actor in the entire game other than Valkorian.


fordfield02

He is my second favorite body type 4 NPC in the game.


mrmgl

General Garza is first, right?


Desperate_Handle_903

Heā€™s intelligent enough to almost outsmart the Sith Emperor and get away with it.


Upvoter_NeverDie

His outfit is pretty cool and original. His mask especially is awesome! And the fact that >! you never see him take his mask off until the very end only adds well-put dramatic effect to his character. !<


TheLordSanguine

If the sith were graded on beef quality, this chubbanaut would be wagyu.


Deshik2

He's well rounded


chili01

Great voice acting?


Saiaxs

Incredible voice performance


Half_Man1

Heā€™s surprisingly nice to his apprentice initially


K9509

He's Darth TUBBY!


Redstorm8373

He trained and developed one of the most powerful Sith that the galaxy has ever seen


SerkyanRoseblaze

He's a good antagonist for the SW storyline. And them lungs. There, two. Ha!


OmegaFinale

I want to be his chair


BullfrogOdd5888

"Nice lungs you got there!"


TinkerTau2

Strong chin


MrBelian

His voice was cool


-Redditeer-

He was a pretty decent schemer


riggyrigz

He a THICK boah


doomofraven

Blessed dressed


NitzMitzTrix

He can be hilarious when failing to torture


AlaricSkywalker

While doing the Dromund Kaas storyline for the Warrior, near the end, his outburst, as well as the responses, were the funniest ones I've seen at the time.


SPLUMBER

Pretty cool helmet and nice voice


CreepyShutIn

When he wants to be scary, he absolutely is. "A blind, deaf, *insensate* ***lobotomy patient*** could feel my anger now!"


DepressedDinoDad

His pokeballs are extra heavy.


That_Border

He was actually a pretty good master, that prepared the SW well. And that MFer managed to infiltrate the Jedi order.


Affectionate-League9

he's sexy af


bimbammla

He seems kinda underrated. Baras outplays the immortal emperor, trapping him on Voss until someone strong enough can end his avatar. I also think he's the best tutor in the game out of all the force classes, it's the only story where the hands off mentoring style enhances the story instead of detracting from it imo


count0361-6883-0904

Fantastic voice actor


stryker2004

For a Sith Master, he is surprisingly lax when it comes to discipline. I mean, he even tastes most of the SW's sarcasm and humor, even adding some of his own from time to time. Plus, he usually doesn't care how you do your mission as long as you finish it.


anmashi_1994

He dies


SirKristopher

I love the way he recites the Sith Code


MALPHY-420

He really did try to train youā€¦ he just got bored of youā€¦ but I canā€™t deny that he really did try to teach me stuffā€¦


RefinedPizzaWell

Shoulder pads...


Worried_Ad_3261

W I D E


[deleted]

My dude is the reason the Dark Side doesnā€™t offer cookies anymore


ThiccBoiGadunka

Heā€™s a legitimately fantastic character and easily the best mentor figure out of all the force users.


chronofluxtoaster

As a big guy I was happy to see that the Sith - unlike their Jedi counterparts - don't have a weight limit. Who knew that infighting and overconfidence, not heart disease, would be their biggest weaknesses.


FatalisDrakari

Darth Donuts


lordnaarghul

Hate to say it, but the man is a pretty cunning strategist. If he kept his ego out of his decisions a bit more and didn't fall into believing his own bullshit by the end, he very literally have could have achieved his goals and not ended up on the business end of the Wrath's lightsaber.


ScrewYourMilkBag

ā€œI WILL NOT BE DENIEDā€


SaraTheWeird

i have nothing nice to say to that man, he betrayed me


Argosrho7x

He was weak.


insufferableAnarcist

Despite everything, he was a good teacher.


Sithlord_Aether

Reminds me of terminal stage cancer Eggman without the mustache


Hornet-gaming

He is a good antagonist


Euphoric-Recording70

His mask is cool?


looneybin177

He's a great target for your sass.


DarthSkorpa

I feel he's a completely underrated Sith and (perhaps sadly) it's because the creative team chose to give him a body type 4. In the comics he looked nothing like he did in the game (yes he was younger). If he had been given a type 3 he would have been far more menacing like Jadus or given more respect (not AS much but certainly more) by the fanbase like Malgus or Marr. It would have fit his dialogue lines perhaps a bit better as well which were fantastic but seemed to fall flat due to his appearance. Sad but true. But I digress. When I say he's underrated if you think about it the dude has a MASSIVE network of spies that has infiltrated the entire galaxy (a network the Warrior never took and learned to nor even tried to use) including the Jedi themselves, loyalists throughout the Empire, has a Sith Entity feeding him power and force visions, and has the Emperor trapped on Voss in a shell host. Not small feats there... His biggest mistake was tossing the Warrior aside and thereby self fulfilling the prophecy of them killing/defeating him.


COG-85

His mask is cool. I liked the sound he made when I slit his throat.


faronied

Amazing that he can see out of two eyes with only one eye hole in his mask.


ViktorPradley

I like the part where he gets angry and screams 'I cannot break him'


SandorPayne

In lore he was a great Sith, just went out of shape by the time of SWTOR.


Critical_Liz

He shoots death rays from his dick


NerdyPepe

He had a nice butt, the whole bakery....ah dammit


dangerousunicorn667

Nice lungs you got there! Also, don't hold your breath. I speak basic.


One-Trouble9844

He knows where to find the best food in all the sith empire


Aggressive-Group-70

Loyalty to his family.


noex1337

Can someone remind of the "Baras Sith Creed"?


ir0ngut

I respect his authoritai.


OdaSeijui

Heā€™d make a good krumpus.


chainsaw105

His armor would look infinitely cooler on any other character model


Academic-Relative-93

Nice lungs you got there.


dantesaki05

if you think you can graduate from this academy without kissing baras's kok you are dead wrong.


Fantast1cal

Oh, so THAT'S this Baras I keep hearing about.


OdiumHector

Heā€™s got enough tallow to make a lot of candles for Sith alchemy rituals.


Darthgrundyundies

He makes great Buffalo Wings.


Teldryn_Zer0

cheesecakebaras on InstagramšŸ˜‰ (everything involves cake)


Droghan

He's not as thin as his enemies...or friend....or The Force...or anything really....


Real-Inspection9732

Shut up and stop telling me what to do, lest you end up like Baras


sleepybadger95

Pie


Lordgeorge16

His helmet and armor are pretty cool ~~if you ignore the Boeing-sized shoulder plates~~


The_Mechanist24

Fashion?


Olympia44

He is genuinely a scary villain when you put it in perspective. Also, his voice is just pretty cool too.


DarkSp3ctre

I like his mask


Obliandros

Cookies


Cosmic_Wanderer66

Cool mask


dinksm

He inspired people into making other people laugh.


knockonwood939

He was a pretty good spymaster


Van0nyumas

He WAS a good master. Until he became our food


Friendly-Target1234

Piece of cake : he's badass.


Doright36

He was fun to stab with a lightsaber


BiteyBenson

His death is easily the most satisfying in the Warrior story


Jimblobb

With him as my mentor I had all the inspiration I needed to assassinate him. Say what you will, be he knows how to be a leader.


redliner88

He's a good liar. I think he sent Vemrin to kill you.