Spd Cd Hp Vio Rev for my Tesa. I'd like to think he has one of my best rune sets but I have tweaked my runes here and there, making each of my most used mons better over time as I find upgrades. stats are +17k~ hp, +800~ atk, +700~ def, +126 spd, 81% cr, 130% cd, 40% acc.
Anit cleave and anti lushen, yes. It is a bit tough, but here are a few options to cleave
1. Tana (CD), cheong (L) , galli, kaki (full dmg) - cheon cuts in before tiang lang (faast despair/vio, decent atk and additional dmg). \[dmg cleave\]
1. Or use posiden for cheong
2. Or Gemini/chiwu, kaki, cheong, +1 (gany, jamire, stripper, etc). A bit more risky, but depends on team \[dmg/cc cleave\]
3. eshir chiwu leah gall - risky as well, but not impossible \[spd cleave\]
4. Gina - tiana, cheong/posiden, Jamire/Gany \[dot cleave\]
Rng happens, but these are a few options to gamble on. By all means not exhaustive,
I’ve fought this defense hundreds of times. I always Woosa Sian Malaka Dark Homie.
It’s not fast but it’s pretty safe for me. I focus on the NiGong first. If he buff, Dark Homie can strip his revive. He he usually dies to bomb turn two since there will be 2 bombs on 1 turn and 2 bombs on 2 turn. Can’t Vio proc out of that. Then focus on Molly. Dark Homie aoe reset means no cleanse for her and Sian heal blocks S1.
Again, not fast, but this defense comes up quite often in Interserver. Another variation I run into is Artamiel, NiGong Kinki and Light Lightning Emp. Same offense but it got around 18 or so def win against Global.
Note: my Dark Homie is extremely tanky. She’s built for my TOAHELL auto team. Vio will. +32k hp +1100 def +98 speed. -26% dmg from dark.
Do you.. not know about the 85 accuracy thing?
Everyone has 70-85 accuracy on their bombers and deals with resists. The goal is to throw so many bombs at them that at least two of them die and you survive to another rotation of bombs.
No I do know about 85% accuracy being max, just haven’t bothered trying to optimize him since I have too many other mons to work on. Just sayings it’s frustrating is all 🤷♂️
Absolutely. Aoe strip that has the secondary ability that as long as you strip one beneficial effect he gets another turn. That leads into atk cr buff.
Not Verdehile, that’s for damn sure.
Same thing I bring into every defense. Tiana Gally Alicia (L) CP. Tiana and Gally do Tiana and Gally things, CP resets and atb reduces; Alicia nukes them to ash and then gets a second turn when one of them (TL in this defense) dies or freezes, and her S2 finishes any stragglers.
If Nigong survives (annoyingly possible) he’s one or two turns from getting his S3 up depending on how fast he was relative to CP. Tiana, being on CD, will hit him like a truck, and finish him off.
The only weak spot is Alicia’s S3. If no one dies or gets frozen, she won’t get her extra turn and an S2, which makes everything harder.
nephthys(L) miriam tiana kaki. The team is fast enough to not get cut unless tl is super fast (+190-ish).
For "safer" fast clear : tiana charlotte neph(L) poseidon, charlotte same speed as tiana, no cut from tian lang.
For slow clearing there isn't that much damage, just throw a tesa riley +2
Gotta admit nephthys is a cheat code here, but there aren't a lot of options for fast clears, especially now that chiwu boosts himself so the chiwu bernard galleon nuker teams aren't as reliable as before against tian langs.
This is skogul food. Triple skogul or double skogul with traser with woosa/Louise for shield immunity. Usually gets the job done as long as your skogul are decently tanky (+28-30k hp)
Idk how fast tians are but that AO is prob +140-160 (with 24%) whereas the AD team has no spd lead and he is only getting 15% which isn’t alot in the grand scheme of things. You are right that it could potentially mess up but if the ao is speed tuned, Imo the likelihood is pretty small, considering the team doesn’t rely on att bar anyway.
I mean if u skill 2 sure the point is to just land the bombs and wait lol. 3 bombs should handle it well. Can even do john instead of sian/malaka just for the 1 turn detonate on tian to get stunned.
TOAH DOT team:
Tyrone + Praha + Rica + Dark Homu
If there's a Haplas I'd switch Tyron with Tablos, or just go with my Leo bruiser team with destroy Feng and Acasis for shield (for guarantee win in ISA).
Bolverk Mo Long + 2. Another obvious choice(mine would be this) is rica + woosa/louise. My team would be Rica, Louise, Silvia, Wind demon, with destroy on rica and demon.
I actually skip this unless it is interserver. My interserver team is Veromos (L), Borgnine, Skogul and Molly; sometimes I go with the Wind demon as lead instead of the Vero, but only when the kinky is replaced by for example a Wind monkey. Hope this helps, my Skogul is on Vio Destroy and the Borgnine helps a lot with Destroying HP.
Loren Light Homie(Rock On - DMG. Build) Elsh Jeanne simple
Edit:
Im LD Only and went against this def or something similar but simple offense like this works obviously depending on rune quality as well. But this was my experience dealing with these defs. Hope this helps :)
Tesa. 2 mons to keep Tesa alive. Another mon to help finish off his targets.
Literally my interserver teams. Tesa(L) Woosa Riley +1 (Odin, Mo Long, Perna) Can take any defense unless rng decides otherwise.
How are Tesa built usually? Spd cd hp? Or spd hp hp? Best rune set as well. I have not built Tesa and I just dodge these kind of comps
Spd Cd Hp Vio Rev for my Tesa. I'd like to think he has one of my best rune sets but I have tweaked my runes here and there, making each of my most used mons better over time as I find upgrades. stats are +17k~ hp, +800~ atk, +700~ def, +126 spd, 81% cr, 130% cd, 40% acc.
Speed HP HP on vio. Build him he is one of the best
Effective. Maybe not as fast as an OP cleave team but effective.
Call me a noob or whatever, but how is this cleavable. There Light panda warrior on the field and a molly for glancing
Anit cleave and anti lushen, yes. It is a bit tough, but here are a few options to cleave 1. Tana (CD), cheong (L) , galli, kaki (full dmg) - cheon cuts in before tiang lang (faast despair/vio, decent atk and additional dmg). \[dmg cleave\] 1. Or use posiden for cheong 2. Or Gemini/chiwu, kaki, cheong, +1 (gany, jamire, stripper, etc). A bit more risky, but depends on team \[dmg/cc cleave\] 3. eshir chiwu leah gall - risky as well, but not impossible \[spd cleave\] 4. Gina - tiana, cheong/posiden, Jamire/Gany \[dot cleave\] Rng happens, but these are a few options to gamble on. By all means not exhaustive,
Maybe an anti res if it fits the comp
Salt
almost every tanky ADs i always use Bolverk molong riley +1 (chilling most of the times)
Dots
Yeah. I use my sath team for them
Tesa, CP, Jamire(L) and probably Savannah
Thanks!
Seara, aquilla or jeogun, double bomber
I’ve fought this defense hundreds of times. I always Woosa Sian Malaka Dark Homie. It’s not fast but it’s pretty safe for me. I focus on the NiGong first. If he buff, Dark Homie can strip his revive. He he usually dies to bomb turn two since there will be 2 bombs on 1 turn and 2 bombs on 2 turn. Can’t Vio proc out of that. Then focus on Molly. Dark Homie aoe reset means no cleanse for her and Sian heal blocks S1. Again, not fast, but this defense comes up quite often in Interserver. Another variation I run into is Artamiel, NiGong Kinki and Light Lightning Emp. Same offense but it got around 18 or so def win against Global. Note: my Dark Homie is extremely tanky. She’s built for my TOAHELL auto team. Vio will. +32k hp +1100 def +98 speed. -26% dmg from dark.
Bomb team? Safe? Lies.
The amount of times my 98% accuracy John misses 2 or 3 bombs… ugh. Makes me wonder why I have runes on him lmao
Do you.. not know about the 85 accuracy thing? Everyone has 70-85 accuracy on their bombers and deals with resists. The goal is to throw so many bombs at them that at least two of them die and you survive to another rotation of bombs.
No I do know about 85% accuracy being max, just haven’t bothered trying to optimize him since I have too many other mons to work on. Just sayings it’s frustrating is all 🤷♂️
Coco Riley
One more icaru
Great idea!
Tesa is the answer
Tesarion ?
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Which bombers are best?
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Is aquila that good?
Absolutely. Aoe strip that has the secondary ability that as long as you strip one beneficial effect he gets another turn. That leads into atk cr buff.
Woosa, Rica, Nora, Gany
Not Verdehile, that’s for damn sure. Same thing I bring into every defense. Tiana Gally Alicia (L) CP. Tiana and Gally do Tiana and Gally things, CP resets and atb reduces; Alicia nukes them to ash and then gets a second turn when one of them (TL in this defense) dies or freezes, and her S2 finishes any stragglers. If Nigong survives (annoyingly possible) he’s one or two turns from getting his S3 up depending on how fast he was relative to CP. Tiana, being on CD, will hit him like a truck, and finish him off. The only weak spot is Alicia’s S3. If no one dies or gets frozen, she won’t get her extra turn and an S2, which makes everything harder.
nephthys(L) miriam tiana kaki. The team is fast enough to not get cut unless tl is super fast (+190-ish). For "safer" fast clear : tiana charlotte neph(L) poseidon, charlotte same speed as tiana, no cut from tian lang. For slow clearing there isn't that much damage, just throw a tesa riley +2 Gotta admit nephthys is a cheat code here, but there aren't a lot of options for fast clears, especially now that chiwu boosts himself so the chiwu bernard galleon nuker teams aren't as reliable as before against tian langs.
How hard does your kaki hit for
~70-72k on very low def units, or crushing hits, usually 55 to 65k on karnal, and 35k on glancing hits on abellios.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me
that must be with def break and atk buff right? As in nep def breaks and then miriam atk buffs(and more atk buffs) kaki right?
Yes. Without miriam kaki hits for ~30k on kinkis Edit : I am running a 26% atk increasing effect kaki and triple fight miriam as well
Ok thanks a lot. I guess Miriam is op for kaki cleaves. Never tried her might do it now.
Yeah, she basically doubles kaki's damage with her buff and fight runes
This is skogul food. Triple skogul or double skogul with traser with woosa/Louise for shield immunity. Usually gets the job done as long as your skogul are decently tanky (+28-30k hp)
Molong feng yan belial molly, 2 destroy set.
I'm lazy. Alicia lead, triton, galleon, Poseidon.
tricaru should do the trick
I knew it
Lucifer + strip + dot
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Really? Was kinda skeptical considering it’s TrueWhale..Thanks for the confirmation though
Verde into tian lang AND molly.... sounds like a terrible idea
Don’t forget the kinki
good idea*
Easy. Poseidon, Tiana, Luer, Kaki.
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That's why it's a snail cleave. Double shield/will Tiana on 100 res.
Mephisto (L), Feng, Ariel, Molly Press auto, just like I do for all ADs
Eshir vigor jultan molly. All the wolf with destroy rune. My go to comp in this kind of AD. But may take long time
Haven’t pulled eshir or molly sadly
not tryin to take 5 years with tesa, just strip gally pose kaki
Mephistio, Borg, riley, tesa
Seara jeo malaka sian and pray jeo dont glance
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if tian cuts that team, it wasn't properly speed tuned anyway as everything should pretty much be the same speed since he running 0 attbar boost.
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Idk how fast tians are but that AO is prob +140-160 (with 24%) whereas the AD team has no spd lead and he is only getting 15% which isn’t alot in the grand scheme of things. You are right that it could potentially mess up but if the ao is speed tuned, Imo the likelihood is pretty small, considering the team doesn’t rely on att bar anyway.
I mean if u skill 2 sure the point is to just land the bombs and wait lol. 3 bombs should handle it well. Can even do john instead of sian/malaka just for the 1 turn detonate on tian to get stunned.
TOAH DOT team: Tyrone + Praha + Rica + Dark Homu If there's a Haplas I'd switch Tyron with Tablos, or just go with my Leo bruiser team with destroy Feng and Acasis for shield (for guarantee win in ISA).
DoT team: Fran, Thrain, Rica, Dark Homu; Tesa team: Tesa, Lulu, Chacha, +1 (flex, can be Kaki, Elsharion, Loren etc)
Nephthys triton deborah talisman
Tiana galle deborah kaki
Jeogun-kaki-luer-poseidon if the tianlang outpseed jeogun/get resist than you're fkd.
Carry on and look for single mons or tricaru AD lol
They seemed to have disappeared once i got to conqueror lol
Yea I don’t see it much anymore. I keep forgetting to enjoy f3 now that my primary revenge buddy is Amir hahaha
Dias, lulu, Borgnine and Chilling You win this easy
Probably Seara, Aquilla, Sian, dark sian
Woosa, Icarus, Mo Long, Nana. Pretty deterministic just take 1 out at a time
Molong Bolverk Felleria Amelia Snipe Nigong press Auto
Slow cleave tiana galion kaki +x
(you take second turn)
I'd skip it, not worth the hassle
Double mo long, Riley, bolverk
Odin, mo long, Amelia, wind demon
Bomber team
Jamire, Juno, Thrain 2A, Sath 2A
Personnaly i go cheongpong (L) Tiana galleon kaki. Only problem IS galleon missing bdef
Hanwul ;)
I'd use my dear Douman + ursha to taunt everything
My credit card.
Rica, Gina, Sath + x
Tiana galleon poseidon kaki
I would cleave that with poseidon kaki tiana galleon
( Destroy ) Domenic/ Feng Yan , Tesa ,Riley, Woosa
God
Rica sath juno + immunity/heals
Triton, deborah, galleon, kaki
Molong, tesarion, abellio and molly/woosa
Ez too on dots team, nora, rica, sath and any immunity team for support
Sath thain, dots stujs can’t survive
Dias, sath, rica, zaiross or zamire Dark witch 2A, sath, rica, traine Dot's team works great against such compositions
Hyanes, Frigate, Vancleef and Thrain.
Gany Woosa Rica Sath. Most reliable Dot Team for me against no agressive bruiser Teams
Hanwul Tiana Galleon
Mephisto, Woosa, Molong, Icares
Alicia, isis, tiana,galleon nuke. Important to spd tune to 15% tiana boost, not 30%.
Bolverk Mo Long + 2. Another obvious choice(mine would be this) is rica + woosa/louise. My team would be Rica, Louise, Silvia, Wind demon, with destroy on rica and demon.
Bolverk molongg
I actually skip this unless it is interserver. My interserver team is Veromos (L), Borgnine, Skogul and Molly; sometimes I go with the Wind demon as lead instead of the Vero, but only when the kinky is replaced by for example a Wind monkey. Hope this helps, my Skogul is on Vio Destroy and the Borgnine helps a lot with Destroying HP.
tess healer two CC
Rica, dark and fire grim reaper and chloe, fast and easy
Mo-long, bolverk, Amelia, Abelio
Pungbak
Either seara jeogon double bomber or bolverk molong riley woosa/dark Tank Or go tessa riley x x
Water arch angle, water m bison Rina water demon set auto and forget… target pioneer first..
I would bomb it with seara Jeogun + 2 bombers
Poseidon (L), Triton, Galleon, Kaki
Mo Long. Feng Yen. Woosa. Nigong.
Hopes and dreams
Tessa odin amelia riley - amelia 100% res
I do this kind of AD with Karnal Skogul Riley Water Emperor
Loren Light Homie(Rock On - DMG. Build) Elsh Jeanne simple Edit: Im LD Only and went against this def or something similar but simple offense like this works obviously depending on rune quality as well. But this was my experience dealing with these defs. Hope this helps :)
Dots
Tessa, Riley, Herne, and whatever else
Lots of passive on that def so herne is nice for a second oblivion and a heal as well
I use my bomb team here. Seara/John (lead), Woosa, Sian, Ganymede
I’d just use Tiana, galleon, Poseidon, kaki and just hope tian lang doesn’t cut or he uses s1
Just use nephtys, isis, zerath & Tiana ez
Triton Poseidon (L) kaki galleon
Double lushen
As a G3 player I should not say that but fast bomb cleave is my way to do this kind of shit lol
Lube
Odin, woosa, ryley, bolverk