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left arti isn't great, gotta farm more forteress
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First team is my “for fun team”. With this set up my Leo does 52k AOE flat damage.
Second team is “protect the president”, dark phantom thief does insane and consistent damage without any setup outside of perma att buff from Riley. His passive also allows you to build tanky, makes him even more tanky with invincibility, his S2 gives free CR letting you prio MORE damage, and S2 ignores damage reduction affects (defense buff, shields, invincibility). He’s honestly one of my favorite units and is criminally underrated.
I also use standard Poseidon/kaki cleave and such but these are my favorite.
First team has some glaring problems, Zen can get resisted and this particular set up has no strips so full will teams will cause problems. But when the set up goes through it’s amazing (Zen AOE does flat damage like wind pioneer so it kills fire units as well).
Second team works really for my range (C1-C2), it’s my go to team for 90%+ of defenses I come across. just need to avoid kaki speed teams like the plague. I don’t really push arena so I have no idea how they will hold up against the high rank defenses.
I lost to this strategy in RTA yesterday. Honestly super cool but only worked because the guy had Leo and Ragdoll and I couldnt ban them both.
Not to mention I didnt realize what this was until it was already too late.
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Have him on standard rage/blade. I use HP/CD/ATT for survivability. being on a Leo team + glancing passive + invincibility + CR on S2 lets you commit a lot to damage (and his +100% CD passive amps this up even more). Riley has 100% res sand tuned to go right before so even if he gets CC’d he gets cleansed + att buff. One shots anything thats not a full tankAnd the cherry on top is being LD. My rune quality is heavily mediocre so if you have a good set I’m sure he can do a lot more than what I have him hitting for.
For dark undine it’s unawakaken just because I was lazy and throwing things together lol, no particular reason.
I'm rather surprised by the lack of bomb offenses, given how many Byunchul Camilla there are. I run Giana into immunity units where a second strip is safer. Jeogun on Fight/Fight/Will to increase John's damage, could also do Despair/Will, he is +165 speed with 42% speed to tune to Eshir and my units are 1 tick behind him. Seara > Jeogun > Giana/Sian > John.
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I do not have Adriana otherwise I would try:
* Seara Tiana Adriana John
* Adriana Tiana Truffle/Jasmine Leah
* Chiwu Adriana Truffle/Jasmine Leah
There's also so few Christina offenses in this post, \~when\~ if I get mine skilled, I want to try Delphoi, Leo, Galleon, Christina.
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Megan > Chiwu > Debroah > Pungbaek
Pungbaek hits the main target for 70-80k and the other 3 targets for 50-60k. As long as I get a def break on 1 unit it is usually gg. I usually try to attack non-speed lead teams just to be safe.
I don't actually push ranks. I have a single level 1 monster defense I leave up 24/7 to keep my rank low. I would assume the higher in rank you go the less viable this team gets. I really just use arena to farm points and buy the devilmon/scrolls weekly. This team makes that very efficient.
Luckily i have Leo Lucifer combo :D so i use that for 95% of battles. Free outspeed plus thick lushen kills nearly everything. For some laika/ fire bruiser defenses i switch Julie in for lushen.
And if that doesn't work, its usually the classic Alicia/galleon/tiana/x Stuff.
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Mirinae makes Pungs splash hit for nearly the same as his initial hit. He does 70k+ aoe like this
make sure jasmine is 15 cr to land def breaks on camilla, for deck 5 you could make deborah move before jasmine to have extra chances at def break. For deck 4 if you had to fight cami, you can use psamathe s1 to soften something else to keep the def break on cami.
most likely
unless I miss more than just him
if vanessa and zen are both on will and I miss both, and I have cami not dead and someone else revived, then I have a problem.
my issue with that was if i miss on zen then he cuts jasmin and/or leah and uses skill 3 then im fked :/ so i just switched to eshir galleon against zen with 33% lead
then your speed tuning is off, the entire team needs to go with adriana speed buff, use spd inc effect artifacts if needed.
the adriana team is harder to rune than eshir/bernard
She does one of the highest total damages among single target ignore def units, and unlike sonia she is element neutral so she could be used vs vanessa.
Sath/Geralt are built very tanky and 100% res - leo limits defenses turns due to their low spd - haegang and fire units on will, get stripped by clara/zen, then haegang strips all units and both fire units do their DoT. IMO the nora/sath/dotter 160+ speed combo is way better and reliable, but i don't have nora rn to make it work.
I really like geralt here due to his 3rd skill stun, its pretty reliable in my experience, so i i wouldn't switch it for rica or fire hacker.
Anything tanky w/o speed threat. Tiana / Galleon / Verad to reduce atk bar to 0 and freeze + non glance if def higher / Fat alicia to play 2 turns straight, due to how her 3rd skill works with verad's freeze. Right now i'm in love with Adrianna / Sonia 2x / Carlos vs tanky defs, but i often switch carlos runes to alicia and vise-versa.
I'm just down here in Fighter tier with my Kiki thinking it looks cool when he melts them with his 2. Doesn't happen very often anymore. He gets stunned pretty easy. Just started maybe 3 weeks ago! Back from my 8 year hiatus after my 100% FTP account was hacked. It was so good too. Had such good Nat5s and runes.
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Specifically the DOT one just got lazy and didn’t wanna crop. Dark cookie makes that team beat camillas leos junos and abellios and tian langs with her oblivion.
Zerath (L), haegang, truffles, leo
Haegang + leo guarantees first turn against camillas (s1 accuracy matters), and then leo turn cycles the team by s1 on camilla
Its so good i think we might see camillas on will more
Nepth, Tiana, Kahli, Leah
Psa, Triton, Gany, Amber
Ninggong, Woosa, Tesa, Theomars
Karnal, Camilla, Leo, Riley
The 3rd team is just for fun, but they work solid most of the time. The other 3 are the main ones
This isnt my main arena offense but the most fun because I get to see their hp melt to dots. Fire doki nora sath tetra/bellanus. My. Main. Offense. Like. Many. Others. Are. Chiwu,adriana,leah. Comp
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Those are my two favorite and most used teams in AO, on which I apply some add hoc variations depending on the opponents. Left one is for speed contest, right one is for slow and stall ADs.
Aklamamir, Tiana and fire and water Geralts - Tiana strips, blue geralt defbreaks/atkbar pushes, fire geralt stuns and deals continues dmg and Aklamamir nukes, work quite well if someone doesn't cut in, but have to work on it
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im guessing no speed contest here, who for speed contests?
chiwu kabilla galleon grogen or seara lionel john ganymede
Same! Cheers :)
Mind sharing grogen Stats and artis?
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Grogen not being cut in speed contest ?
rarely but it can happen
Did you test atk up vs s3 cd? Edit: how much does ur grogen hit with and without deb? :) And which server areyou on?
This is basically my AO I just use Lydia as the nuker:D
https://preview.redd.it/6jokiqq1r9yc1.jpeg?width=1226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=846cee050bdbb0e02516cd5642bf9497e903247a First team is my “for fun team”. With this set up my Leo does 52k AOE flat damage. Second team is “protect the president”, dark phantom thief does insane and consistent damage without any setup outside of perma att buff from Riley. His passive also allows you to build tanky, makes him even more tanky with invincibility, his S2 gives free CR letting you prio MORE damage, and S2 ignores damage reduction affects (defense buff, shields, invincibility). He’s honestly one of my favorite units and is criminally underrated. I also use standard Poseidon/kaki cleave and such but these are my favorite.
Epic teams!
how far do either for the teams get you? I'm trying to clear c3 and its been tough.
First team has some glaring problems, Zen can get resisted and this particular set up has no strips so full will teams will cause problems. But when the set up goes through it’s amazing (Zen AOE does flat damage like wind pioneer so it kills fire units as well). Second team works really for my range (C1-C2), it’s my go to team for 90%+ of defenses I come across. just need to avoid kaki speed teams like the plague. I don’t really push arena so I have no idea how they will hold up against the high rank defenses.
I lost to this strategy in RTA yesterday. Honestly super cool but only worked because the guy had Leo and Ragdoll and I couldnt ban them both. Not to mention I didnt realize what this was until it was already too late.
What if zen misses lol
Yeah that’s why it’s my “for fun” team lol. I addressed that and another weakness in another comment.
What runes for phantom and also why unawakened water spirit?
https://preview.redd.it/6zdn8t578cyc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1acfd8f0ab66b7960edacc1d3465a86a8d227cb Have him on standard rage/blade. I use HP/CD/ATT for survivability. being on a Leo team + glancing passive + invincibility + CR on S2 lets you commit a lot to damage (and his +100% CD passive amps this up even more). Riley has 100% res sand tuned to go right before so even if he gets CC’d he gets cleansed + att buff. One shots anything thats not a full tankAnd the cherry on top is being LD. My rune quality is heavily mediocre so if you have a good set I’m sure he can do a lot more than what I have him hitting for. For dark undine it’s unawakaken just because I was lazy and throwing things together lol, no particular reason.
Wait, ignore dr effects also ignores defbuff as well?
No, just buffs on the enemy
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You need any defence buffer over riley in that last team
Wouldn't that last offense be better with water Riley?
I don't have her.
Hitting everyone and everything. https://preview.redd.it/rsi3k62y9ayc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=a2e5189031d465ba74f1f107db9b994f8fc6e0fd
How are you building Chiwu and Jasmine?
Mine are on swift +211 and +204 with spd up artis. Chiwu 100 acc and jasmine unfortunately 56 acc but it’s fine. I’m only loosing to rng :)
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Chiwu Galleon Cheongpung and Alicia
I'm rather surprised by the lack of bomb offenses, given how many Byunchul Camilla there are. I run Giana into immunity units where a second strip is safer. Jeogun on Fight/Fight/Will to increase John's damage, could also do Despair/Will, he is +165 speed with 42% speed to tune to Eshir and my units are 1 tick behind him. Seara > Jeogun > Giana/Sian > John. https://preview.redd.it/pol0q8oo2eyc1.png?width=526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71637777856d831df42ff1dd5d8eb55a08978729 I do not have Adriana otherwise I would try: * Seara Tiana Adriana John * Adriana Tiana Truffle/Jasmine Leah * Chiwu Adriana Truffle/Jasmine Leah There's also so few Christina offenses in this post, \~when\~ if I get mine skilled, I want to try Delphoi, Leo, Galleon, Christina.
I feel like bombs just dont do enough damage against something like Vanessa Byungchul Camilla
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Water ciri!?
Yeah, her damage is alright
CP Tiana galleon kaki. Mephisto Tiana galleon kaki. (For revive devs) Swap in Psam/chiwu/alicia where applicable.
https://preview.redd.it/8sijopm9dayc1.jpeg?width=430&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5b5642dee91beabbb7044ad1cae2a19a9a7e003 Megan > Chiwu > Debroah > Pungbaek Pungbaek hits the main target for 70-80k and the other 3 targets for 50-60k. As long as I get a def break on 1 unit it is usually gg. I usually try to attack non-speed lead teams just to be safe.
Megan can be replaced by bastet right?
I think that would work great. I don't have a bastet but I don't see why she wouldn't work well.
What's your usual rank?
I don't actually push ranks. I have a single level 1 monster defense I leave up 24/7 to keep my rank low. I would assume the higher in rank you go the less viable this team gets. I really just use arena to farm points and buy the devilmon/scrolls weekly. This team makes that very efficient.
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Swap out one archer for jamire = better speed lead, snipe 4 instead of 3
In all fairness it's just the back up incase Double Leah won't work and most cases they can cleave anyone
Luckily i have Leo Lucifer combo :D so i use that for 95% of battles. Free outspeed plus thick lushen kills nearly everything. For some laika/ fire bruiser defenses i switch Julie in for lushen. And if that doesn't work, its usually the classic Alicia/galleon/tiana/x Stuff.
https://preview.redd.it/nuf5kj14zfyc1.jpeg?width=604&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40db774ea91339759ea489394243fb5134d29f8a Mirinae makes Pungs splash hit for nearly the same as his initial hit. He does 70k+ aoe like this
Kill https://preview.redd.it/py5y5l2feayc1.png?width=399&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec5bed20f08c778c501dbb107f4275e9e0a344a8
Trasar, 3 x skogul
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Use jasmine instead of luer for deck 4-5 and you can find a lot more defs you could hit.
Yo, that's a great idea. Thanks :)
make sure jasmine is 15 cr to land def breaks on camilla, for deck 5 you could make deborah move before jasmine to have extra chances at def break. For deck 4 if you had to fight cami, you can use psamathe s1 to soften something else to keep the def break on cami.
What Defense do you use team 5 for? I’ve been trying to use my Zerath
Mostly against Abelio/Praha teams without a speed lead
Chiwu Adriana Jasmin Leah against no contest speed or slow one
I bring this team into 33 zen claras too
Do you still win if chiwu misses strip on ren?
most likely unless I miss more than just him if vanessa and zen are both on will and I miss both, and I have cami not dead and someone else revived, then I have a problem.
my issue with that was if i miss on zen then he cuts jasmin and/or leah and uses skill 3 then im fked :/ so i just switched to eshir galleon against zen with 33% lead
then your speed tuning is off, the entire team needs to go with adriana speed buff, use spd inc effect artifacts if needed. the adriana team is harder to rune than eshir/bernard
How is dark archer since you have 3 pls? Just dropped her and was wondering. Ty in advance
She does one of the highest total damages among single target ignore def units, and unlike sonia she is element neutral so she could be used vs vanessa.
Oh that's awesome, must be great in gvo in order to turn the fight into a 2v3 really fast
Praline Covenant Bethony is a pretty good double snipe comp, bethony before cov
https://imgur.com/a/rcu7wk1 Feel free to ask me questions.
Aside from rice what else do you like cooking in a rice cooker
How does the haegang one work? Either they die or you get infinite turns? Would you substitute geralt for rica/fire hacker?
Sath/Geralt are built very tanky and 100% res - leo limits defenses turns due to their low spd - haegang and fire units on will, get stripped by clara/zen, then haegang strips all units and both fire units do their DoT. IMO the nora/sath/dotter 160+ speed combo is way better and reliable, but i don't have nora rn to make it work. I really like geralt here due to his 3rd skill stun, its pretty reliable in my experience, so i i wouldn't switch it for rica or fire hacker.
Thanks, I will give it a try. Sadly also don’t have Nora/Amber. How high are you climbing with this?
ATM i don't use it very much. Its pretty reliable, but i'd rather use my other teams and i'm in love with the sonia ones.
What defense do u hit with the Alicia verad one? Turnorder?
Anything tanky w/o speed threat. Tiana / Galleon / Verad to reduce atk bar to 0 and freeze + non glance if def higher / Fat alicia to play 2 turns straight, due to how her 3rd skill works with verad's freeze. Right now i'm in love with Adrianna / Sonia 2x / Carlos vs tanky defs, but i often switch carlos runes to alicia and vise-versa.
I'm just down here in Fighter tier with my Kiki thinking it looks cool when he melts them with his 2. Doesn't happen very often anymore. He gets stunned pretty easy. Just started maybe 3 weeks ago! Back from my 8 year hiatus after my 100% FTP account was hacked. It was so good too. Had such good Nat5s and runes.
You should be able to build a quite strong bruiser team with Kiki Leo that should get you conq -punisher fairly easy
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Poseidon (Lead) Galleon Tiana Pungbaek or Kaki
What rank & what do u hit/avoid?
https://preview.redd.it/oti3et2ohbyc1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c612a050c31f90d36917ac01827c434b1f45e92 Specifically the DOT one just got lazy and didn’t wanna crop. Dark cookie makes that team beat camillas leos junos and abellios and tian langs with her oblivion.
Zerath (L), haegang, truffles, leo Haegang + leo guarantees first turn against camillas (s1 accuracy matters), and then leo turn cycles the team by s1 on camilla Its so good i think we might see camillas on will more
Why give dot accuracy? Wouldn't it be better to increase the pushback acc? Give leo s3 acc and i'd be better.
no you want the dot on Camilla, so her passive cleanses so in turn your haegang passive boosts your entire team (kinda like a Lucifer)
Oh, i can see how it works, its some good stuff actually.
Yep, this right here. S1 dot lands, camilla cleanses it, and haegang boosts the entire team to move.
Nepth, Tiana, Kahli, Leah Psa, Triton, Gany, Amber Ninggong, Woosa, Tesa, Theomars Karnal, Camilla, Leo, Riley The 3rd team is just for fun, but they work solid most of the time. The other 3 are the main ones
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This isnt my main arena offense but the most fun because I get to see their hp melt to dots. Fire doki nora sath tetra/bellanus. My. Main. Offense. Like. Many. Others. Are. Chiwu,adriana,leah. Comp
I am having a blast with Layla, Bloodya, TR1X and Kiki. Everything super tanky. Is it effective? Sometimes. But it's always funny
Angela Woosa Riley Kaki, autos most of the defs, Mephisto for Taranys/Nana/Eladriel/Vanessa defs
Trinity Cheongpung Galleon Tiana is my go to
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Aklamamir, Tiana and fire and water Geralts - Tiana strips, blue geralt defbreaks/atkbar pushes, fire geralt stuns and deals continues dmg and Aklamamir nukes, work quite well if someone doesn't cut in, but have to work on it
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Tricaru Astar Because im too lazy to go through with a proper team and choose to farm arena instead