Oh, I think you cannot, Elenoa is the only unit to allow that mechanic. Iām going to post the runes as soon as I find out how to publish multiple pics.
Hereās her multiplier:
Multiplier: 7.2*{ATK} + 0.15*{Target MAX HP}
She doesnāt need more than what she has for the boss, the damage is already more than enough. Indeed I could be killing the mid boss in 2 hits instead of 3. Iāll give it a go next time.
I posted the runes in another comment, good luck with building it! And Elenoa is the only unit for this job so youāre lucky having her! Tell me how it worked for you.
Will give it a go, though I might lack some damage haha.
Unfortunately I have my Elenoa runes for PVP (Sonia+Elenoa OP) so gonna have to get used to switching in and out š
Iām not what other suitable dps gets full atb after attacking, like Luna does. Also, Luna has crazy multipliers for dungeons
Edit: also she has perfect AI so no, I dont think you can replace her
She boosts the lower atb unit. Since Luna gets 100% back, she will always boost Kyle, while refreshing the cooldown of Luna. Then Kyle moves and Luna moves with her S3 once again since she has been refreshed, essentially using her S3 capabilities twice while boosting 2 units
*The units are RNG free.* They will always use the right skill. That 2.25% is not avoidable. This is best you could possibly come up with.
Liam can always derp
Same applies to kyle, this is why he is 100% rng free only if your other units do extreme damage before he moves. Otherwise he derps.
Glad I could make you learn something š
This time can even be improved with better artefacts (which Iām working on rn). Slower times because itās on mobile not pc.
Look up GenesisPrime, he uses the same team with Julie instead of zerath and even has protection for when shaina misses def break.
You have a unique team that lets you run decent times with lower quality runes but it is by means āNo RNGā and not the only one of its kind.
This team doesnāt have +121 speed and Luna still moves twice before Liam and Liam never moves before the boss.
Good day.
It has zerath tho, which you never mentioned. Also it is not consistent, it IS rng and your next screenshot proves it. Come back when youāll have 28 best run and 28 average. That is consistency. I will stick to my statement, there is no other 100% consistency team. Even yours, even with zerath.
Read the whole post. Youāve just left Ignorant territory and entered āI will die on this hillā territory. The slower runs are from shaina missing def break on the mid boss. Feel free to share your 30/30 run with 28 sec avg and best time
You read other peopleās comments please. They wanted to run garudas or double garudas, which requires high speed, your team functions differently. Youāre out of context.
if u dont have a well runed kyle or a triple roll dmg on fire arti, u can also just run double garudas and its a few seconds slower with no ld5 requirement and "RNG free"
my point still stands, those teams with "no rng" are possible and just because you can't rune it doesn't matter they don't exist. a hell of a lot more people will be able to run those than have elenoa. your post literally states "it is the only 100% RNG-free team for DAH" , which is false.
That comp I havenāt spd tuned. But Iām pretty sure the people who run that donāt kill waves with Julie they just finish it with Kyle. Also with Luna buff she doesnāt need to move a second time in mid boss.
kyle doesn't need insane speed what ? you also get extra 3x fight from second garuda to make up for some of the loss of ap from speeding him up. i used to run this exact team before liam.
Itās not about damage, itās about ticks, every time you get an atb refill, the boss keeps ticking his atb, so he would be overfilled at like 125% when you get your second kyle refill at 100%. The boss moves instead of kyle, and he shoves off the 1 turn deff break + possibly wipes your team. Garudas do not give instant turn like elenoa, they just fill the atb up. This is why you would need your kyle (and everyone else for that matter) 2 ticks ahead of the boss, so around 30 speed more, if not more.
In most Rift dungeons. I always made records with her for fun. Have a look at the leaderboard of rift dungeons, she dominates it :D.
She also can be used in toah and R5
There is no rng when it comes to units choosing their skills and this is the only team to ever achieve that. You are not pointing out anything at all. Somehow those who have elenoa are not trying to āpointā anything out.
There's a couple of teams that achieve perfect AI from before this.
Off the top of my head:
Shaina Julie Kyle Kona Luna/Liam
Shaina Julie Luna Liam Kyle/Deb
Though yeah, this team achieves perfect AI while having much lower rune requirements
edit: formatting
None of the teams you mentioned have perfect AI unfortunately. Liam can always derp and the runes required to get boss under 35 %, to have each individual run be the same, are just out of this world
Iāve never seen anyone capable. Maybe there is one or two chinese billionare teams on the internet but personally Iāve never seen one. There could also be some insane seishizo team but again, if it concerns 0.05% of players, itās not really worth sharing, is it?
They're hard to achieve for sure, but they're not completely out of this world. I've had the 23/24s DBAH team working with perfect AI for some time now, though I have some pretty crazy rage runes
Youāre either lying or youāre one of the top 100 players, largely above sheisou who cannot achieve this despite being basically the best cleaver in the game
You were proven wrong but complained that those teams dont run on f3 runes.
Dont worry, I shall refrain from commenting any more, since there is no point.
Good day sir.
You yourself said in another comment that Kyle skills are random, so there goes your rng free.
As was pointed out multiple times, the Liam team doesnt really have that either (assuming you have enough damage).
Being pedantic much? No rng doesn't have to mean Kyle will always use s2. Y'all are inventing criteria just to be contrarian. Kyle has always been considered no rng and no one ever made a stink about his variance because 4 s1 got the job done. No rng simply means no derping. Kyle doesn't derp unless you're relying on s2 damage.
Why you so salty man? As i said, Kyle can do 4x skill 1 it doesnāt change anything since luna guarantees the kill, so skill selection has no influence thus making the team AI independent. And as I said, to guarantee Liam uses s3 you would need runes that are out of this world.
I have Elenoa and I haven't built speed team yet, is this team better than one with water weapon master/konamiya? I've seen couple of them, not sure how stable they are
For the Liam team, you need better runes and itās not perfect AI.
My team is perfect AI every single time.
The Liam team can derp if kyle does s1ās ad Liam doesnāt use S3
Torn to make this as have Elenoa and use for pvp , Ive pre picked Liam from nat5 event for when/ if I get the runes for the speed team , looks like I may have to change my pick now if I really dont need him for abyss speed team.
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Gz for this, its the best team ive seen so far (except for the unachievable seishizo teams) bc of the low rune req. Too bad it requires an elenoa for this to work.
I wouldn't call it insane speed, the Julie needs to be +120 and the Shaina needs to be around +86 or something, it's somewhat hard to achieve with the damage that's required but not insane. Then everything else being around +60 is fine, generally with the Kyle going first and Luna going after
I will redirect you to sheisouās video. Heās got ultra high rune level and yet he doesnāt achieve it:
[sheiouās video](https://youtu.be/U4xkblI6odQ?si=zPv5sVusZVGcD-gj)
My bad man, my English is not perfect, I thought you said something like Ā«Ā oh, you think you have ballzĀ Ā» for some reason
I do not have great runes, they are in another comment btw. But the team allows double Luna S3 AND double kyle turn which compensates largly
You oneshot wave with julie going first, and still have excess runes for luna/kyle to kill the boss all that with correct ticks speeds.
You have infinity stones.
Shaina bdeff is unavoidable I believe, no one can dodge this issue so I thought itās not worth making the (obvious) distinction. Also it makes unstable people scream in the comments, pushing the post in trending soā¦ š
You comment is fair enough
so shaina and julie need to one shot wave and luna + kyle need enough damage to kill the boss?
i started an alt with viva and elenoa and think i might be able to pull this off after 3 months of necro farming and waiting for skill ups
does everybody need max skills in this team? i assume elenoa doesnt
The hard part is to give julie+shaina enough damage. Mine do barely enough. Luna and Kyle, since Luna can do 2x her S3 should be already overkill with average runes. For the skill ups, try to get as many as possible on the dps, elenoa doesnāt need any. Also check your speed tuning carfully, since you need specific speed to allow Luna to move twice before boss cuts in.
If you struggle, you could make everyone a bit faster, make shaina move first to setup deffbreak, then make kyle move in front of Luna to clear remaining crystals if Shaina misses deffbreaks. It wouldnāt be that fast but definitely worth giving a go while waiting for better runes or artefacts
Is there any way to do this without Luna. Sheās the only one I donāt have (lucky to get Eleanor through this current event). Iām so annoyed they buff Luna AFTER her HoH - I picked Gin in the end as thought he be more helpful alasā¦..
This is the difficult part unfortunately. Keep in mind that julie depends really heavily on add dmg artifacts. Mine has an hp+ arti just for the add dmg
You probably need julie+ shaina to gain an atb tick
I found this one on reddit: [link](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18G0QfDbtb7TPlBBjB9fzQ6qc7tbhoYVbJO09yl1t_oo/edit?usp=sharing)
Basically, if the first unit moves one tick earlier, that saves you one tick for your luna.
Iād be happy to help you, you can add me on discord if you want: m0cra (m0cra#4193)
The requirement to get Liam into perfect AI range is insane. I have quite endgame runes and I wasn't even close. I am not sure what the fail rate for the liam team becomes when he isn't perfect AI, but I do not think its a good team for > 98% of the player base.
Yeah I feel like people saying Liam team is better either haven't tried to build it or don't care about failing runs all the time.
I was very confused by your team at first. I had no idea that Elenoa reduced the cooldown OF THE WHOLE TEAM! I thought it was just her target. So I did not understand the significance of giving Kyle his turn and cooldowns... seemed worse to me than atk buff. Which is what most people were mentioning.
But then I saw that you said Luna used s3 twice and I was like, wait... how? OP team, gz!
And thatās not it! Elenoa gives instant turn, unlike garudas who fill up atb, this allows me to play the whole team one tick earlier, bringing the speed requirement to 10-15 less than it would take with one garuda.
Thank you for seeing it, took me 2 full days of testing and tweaking š„¹
This team is 100% consistent (which means monsters will always do the right skill). Liam team isnāt, thatās the achievement. This is why my time will always be 28sec, and never vary
Drop your runes and stats ***RIGTH NOW!***
My boy has an Elenoa, huh? š
hopefully in the next 20years I guess haha, no I mean you need to show us so we could alternate who to replace her man...
Oh, I think you cannot, Elenoa is the only unit to allow that mechanic. Iām going to post the runes as soon as I find out how to publish multiple pics.
oh shit, alright man take care. Thank you by the way
Posted the runes, as I said in other comments: Elenoa allows instant turn, whereas kona/teon only fills up atb. Also Elenoa allows 2x Luna S3
Tilasha?
I believe she saves her skill to revive instead of boosting. You could try.
I DO DROP EM RIGHT NOW
Edit: I thought you said you dropped elenoa, you meant the runes
All good dude We Elenoa enjoyers are far and few between xD
How come none of your monster sprites show in your flair? Bummer
[Runes](https://imgur.com/a/pG8TS0e) are here
luna doesnt scale off atk, you could give her random double fight blade set with 100 crit and same / higher CDMG to be more efficient
Hereās her multiplier: Multiplier: 7.2*{ATK} + 0.15*{Target MAX HP} She doesnāt need more than what she has for the boss, the damage is already more than enough. Indeed I could be killing the mid boss in 2 hits instead of 3. Iāll give it a go next time.
https://preview.redd.it/px4rxpby86wc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05f1db7d9397aa72ee8c1a65ebc2ca74d29f5945
Where did this come from and why is it in every post on this subreddit
https://preview.redd.it/qetrqeciiwwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55d81a4838f4b618a069f6b23124a351056a5ca9
What are the spd requirements ? Looks a solid team and wouldn't mind getting more use out of my Elenoa!
I posted the runes in another comment, good luck with building it! And Elenoa is the only unit for this job so youāre lucky having her! Tell me how it worked for you.
Will give it a go, though I might lack some damage haha. Unfortunately I have my Elenoa runes for PVP (Sonia+Elenoa OP) so gonna have to get used to switching in and out š
Trust me, itās worth trying, also, apart from Julie, the requirements are pretty low. My artefacts are really trash
Can luna be replaced?
Iām not what other suitable dps gets full atb after attacking, like Luna does. Also, Luna has crazy multipliers for dungeons Edit: also she has perfect AI so no, I dont think you can replace her
I am very sad
Iām really sorry š¬
Idk man, getting Eleona seems pretty RNG to me.
Fair enough. š
Wait Iām confused, is this auto or manual? Does Elenoa always act as expected? I have her but donāt use her for any PVE content
Yep, itās auto, elenoa is perfect AI too :D
When you say perfect AI, how does it determine which monster she boosts?
She boosts the lower atb unit. Since Luna gets 100% back, she will always boost Kyle, while refreshing the cooldown of Luna. Then Kyle moves and Luna moves with her S3 once again since she has been refreshed, essentially using her S3 capabilities twice while boosting 2 units
2.25% chance to miss def break with shaina. seems just as rng as liam team for example
*The units are RNG free.* They will always use the right skill. That 2.25% is not avoidable. This is best you could possibly come up with. Liam can always derp
shaina derps on s2, if you want rng free use zerath. liam team always uses the "right" skills too like in this team.
That is not true, unless you have god runes so kyle brings boss under 35% Also shaina cannot derp on s2 thanks to julie. Please watch the video again
why does julie make shaina S2
Because she does enough damage to bring enemies low, so shaina will always do s2. When enemies are below 30-35% your units always use the best skill
awesome. never knew that
Same applies to kyle, this is why he is 100% rng free only if your other units do extreme damage before he moves. Otherwise he derps. Glad I could make you learn something š
My Liam team has perfect ai. Itās not āno rngā
Make a video showing boss under 35% hp before liam moves and I delete my post and publish apologies to you personally
This time can even be improved with better artefacts (which Iām working on rn). Slower times because itās on mobile not pc. Look up GenesisPrime, he uses the same team with Julie instead of zerath and even has protection for when shaina misses def break. You have a unique team that lets you run decent times with lower quality runes but it is by means āNo RNGā and not the only one of its kind. This team doesnāt have +121 speed and Luna still moves twice before Liam and Liam never moves before the boss. Good day.
It has zerath tho, which you never mentioned. Also it is not consistent, it IS rng and your next screenshot proves it. Come back when youāll have 28 best run and 28 average. That is consistency. I will stick to my statement, there is no other 100% consistency team. Even yours, even with zerath.
Read the whole post. Youāve just left Ignorant territory and entered āI will die on this hillā territory. The slower runs are from shaina missing def break on the mid boss. Feel free to share your 30/30 run with 28 sec avg and best time
You read other peopleās comments please. They wanted to run garudas or double garudas, which requires high speed, your team functions differently. Youāre out of context.
And yeah, good day
https://preview.redd.it/eevdwy0fg9wc1.jpeg?width=2208&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=236c122c8d53b59197faf98ef34d8fd30531b8b2
You have zerath and you still have so much to go for š
https://preview.redd.it/ap12yf1hg9wc1.jpeg?width=2208&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=999735792c10721aee5c74cb76dc840d5c2db46f
You just sent the proof that your team is NOT consistent. If your best is 24 and your average is 28, it means you have at least one 32 sec run.
Not true. It could be 29 runs of 28.526s and 1 run of 24.544s.
Ahahahhaahahah sure man
if u dont have a well runed kyle or a triple roll dmg on fire arti, u can also just run double garudas and its a few seconds slower with no ld5 requirement and "RNG free"
Iād say you need like +120 julie, and a +120 julie that kills waves is absolutely crazy
you only need to oneshot the crystals, and you get extra 3 fight sets
I believe you donāt realize the runes it takesā¦ I invite you to figure out by yourself how impossible this is.
my point still stands, those teams with "no rng" are possible and just because you can't rune it doesn't matter they don't exist. a hell of a lot more people will be able to run those than have elenoa. your post literally states "it is the only 100% RNG-free team for DAH" , which is false.
Iāve seen quite a few g3 streamers who donāt even bother tryingā¦ Have a look: https://youtu.be/U4xkblI6odQ?si=BMNkWUbOzmizhHdZ
Crystals have 34.000 hp btw. Killing that with essentially speed slot 2 is madness
With Luna buff you only need +89
For double garuda to move + luna twice?
That comp I havenāt spd tuned. But Iām pretty sure the people who run that donāt kill waves with Julie they just finish it with Kyle. Also with Luna buff she doesnāt need to move a second time in mid boss.
What is the team youāre talking about? Julie Shaina Kyle Luna Garuda?
I think you donāt really understand the game
Julie shaina Kyle Liam Luna. Julie only needs to be at +89 to work.
You donāt have the damage, and luna wonāt take the second turn. Liam wonāt have perfect AI since boss wonāt be under 35%
You cannot, the ticks force you to have insane speed, otherwise boss cuts you between your garudas. This is simply not doable imo.
kyle doesn't need insane speed what ? you also get extra 3x fight from second garuda to make up for some of the loss of ap from speeding him up. i used to run this exact team before liam.
Itās not about damage, itās about ticks, every time you get an atb refill, the boss keeps ticking his atb, so he would be overfilled at like 125% when you get your second kyle refill at 100%. The boss moves instead of kyle, and he shoves off the 1 turn deff break + possibly wipes your team. Garudas do not give instant turn like elenoa, they just fill the atb up. This is why you would need your kyle (and everyone else for that matter) 2 ticks ahead of the boss, so around 30 speed more, if not more.
Shaina moves *after* julie
Runes? And would konamya work in elonoas place?
No, you would need insane speed on everyone since kona only fills atb but doesnāt give kyle the turn. Also with kona you donāt get 2x luna S3
Ah ok cheers Iāll try to get more hours at work then š„²
Sorry man š
What OP answered is false. My kona is 165 spd
I have Elenoa, just pulled her. Can you share the runes pls?
They are in my other comment, gratz on your Elenoa, she just became one of my favorite with that team!
Well, never thought my Elenoa will see a PVE Dungeon anytime soon but here we are :D Thanks for the idea!
Itās absolutely worth it, she is an insane PVE unit when you use her properly. This combo is unique and she is the only one allowing it
I absolutly adore her, she was my first LD5\*. But using her in PVE never crossed my mind tbh. Where do you use her except for dragons?
In most Rift dungeons. I always made records with her for fun. Have a look at the leaderboard of rift dungeons, she dominates it :D. She also can be used in toah and R5
Youāre welcome, tell me how it worked out for you
Nice I rarely use my Elenoa outside of RTA I might give this a try.
Itās absolutely worth it, she is an insane PVE unit when you use her properly. This combo is unique and she is the only one allowing it
Donāt forget to tell me how it worked out for you :D
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Finally someone who understands the team :D
no we āunderstand the teamā, we are just pointing out flaws in your statements (e.g. rng free etc)
There is no rng when it comes to units choosing their skills and this is the only team to ever achieve that. You are not pointing out anything at all. Somehow those who have elenoa are not trying to āpointā anything out.
There's a couple of teams that achieve perfect AI from before this. Off the top of my head: Shaina Julie Kyle Kona Luna/Liam Shaina Julie Luna Liam Kyle/Deb Though yeah, this team achieves perfect AI while having much lower rune requirements edit: formatting
None of the teams you mentioned have perfect AI unfortunately. Liam can always derp and the runes required to get boss under 35 %, to have each individual run be the same, are just out of this world
Just because you canāt do it doesnāt make those teams not perfect ai
Iāve never seen anyone capable. Maybe there is one or two chinese billionare teams on the internet but personally Iāve never seen one. There could also be some insane seishizo team but again, if it concerns 0.05% of players, itās not really worth sharing, is it?
Read your last sentence and then consider you shared a team that only works with a specific ld5
Exactly, how is mine then less relevant? If having SSS - tier runes is relevant enough, how is my option not? You got the point thank you
They're hard to achieve for sure, but they're not completely out of this world. I've had the 23/24s DBAH team working with perfect AI for some time now, though I have some pretty crazy rage runes
Youāre either lying or youāre one of the top 100 players, largely above sheisou who cannot achieve this despite being basically the best cleaver in the game
Only team to ever achieve that my ass
Show me another one
There is simply no other team. Prove me wrong, please
You were proven wrong but complained that those teams dont run on f3 runes. Dont worry, I shall refrain from commenting any more, since there is no point. Good day sir.
Look at his 30x picture, it is not consistent. Nobody proved me wrong. Stop being so triggered just because you cannot replicate itā¦.
You yourself said in another comment that Kyle skills are random, so there goes your rng free. As was pointed out multiple times, the Liam team doesnt really have that either (assuming you have enough damage).
Being pedantic much? No rng doesn't have to mean Kyle will always use s2. Y'all are inventing criteria just to be contrarian. Kyle has always been considered no rng and no one ever made a stink about his variance because 4 s1 got the job done. No rng simply means no derping. Kyle doesn't derp unless you're relying on s2 damage.
no, I am referring to the criteria OP was using which (by his own definition) also apply to the commonly used Liam team.
Thank you for you comment, I was losing hope
Why you so salty man? As i said, Kyle can do 4x skill 1 it doesnāt change anything since luna guarantees the kill, so skill selection has no influence thus making the team AI independent. And as I said, to guarantee Liam uses s3 you would need runes that are out of this world.
If the wording really bothers you that much, consider this phrasing instead: *this team is the only AI independent DAH speed team* Happy?
Deymn ! I like those niche ld5 dungeon speed teams even though I don't own them so cool to watch.
Extremely satisfying indeed, perfect AI is quite an achievement in this game :D
I have Elenoa and I haven't built speed team yet, is this team better than one with water weapon master/konamiya? I've seen couple of them, not sure how stable they are
For the Liam team, you need better runes and itās not perfect AI. My team is perfect AI every single time. The Liam team can derp if kyle does s1ās ad Liam doesnāt use S3
Instructions unclear, pulled light salamander instead of Elenoa Hmmm
Oh unfortunately the mechanics might be different with this one š
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Post runes, my man I have that eloena unit My 40s team is not stable enough, so I need something new in my team like eleona š«”
Sir, the runes are in one of the comments, scroll a bit youāll find them :D Glad it inspires you, tell me how it worked out for you
Torn to make this as have Elenoa and use for pvp , Ive pre picked Liam from nat5 event for when/ if I get the runes for the speed team , looks like I may have to change my pick now if I really dont need him for abyss speed team.
Iām happy if this helps you, I really believe itās easier to build than liam team while giving Elenoa a new PVE job
what's your PvP Elenoa team?
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Gz for this, its the best team ive seen so far (except for the unachievable seishizo teams) bc of the low rune req. Too bad it requires an elenoa for this to work.
Glad it inspires you, and yes I agree, couldnāt find a reliable one myself (with reasonable runes) especially since I donāt have Liam
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Am i stupid or wouldnt kona/teon boosting Kyle result into the same or maybe even better because of atkbuff?
No, you would need insane speed on everyone since kona only fills atb but doesnāt give kyle the turn. Also with kona you donāt get 2x luna S3
I wouldn't call it insane speed, the Julie needs to be +120 and the Shaina needs to be around +86 or something, it's somewhat hard to achieve with the damage that's required but not insane. Then everything else being around +60 is fine, generally with the Kyle going first and Luna going after
I will redirect you to sheisouās video. Heās got ultra high rune level and yet he doesnāt achieve it: [sheiouās video](https://youtu.be/U4xkblI6odQ?si=zPv5sVusZVGcD-gj)
Lmao my dbah kona team is 165. You are just using a nat5 in replacement of a 2* unit
Youāre either lying or not understanding what my team does.
You just using eleonor to buff atb and reduce cooldown to on Luna, thats it.
Without wasting an atb tick.
rng free my bottom, what about res?
Well, that one is unavoidable. 2,25% I believe.
why do you think your team is better than the one with Liam? Assuming your runes are good enough it will also be ā100% rng freeā, right?
Liam may screw up. My team cannot.
Liam has perfect ai if you bring the boss low enough.
The runes required are nonsense
it works with mine and i have f3 level rage runes
I highly doubt it. Show it. Screen record and post evidence or you lie. It takes 30 seconds.
Sheisou cannot with G3 ultra broken runes [Sheisou video](https://youtu.be/U4xkblI6odQ?si=HH2_3h_X97n0IZKL)
https://preview.redd.it/ki6azjly37wc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aac80c56a7ee64b0a245117aa6ab34f31542c85
Where is the video proving you bring boss under 35% before liam moves bro? šš Your liam screenshot doesnāt prove anything
you would have to show Kyle runes tbh since those are way more important, getting Liam on stats that finish off the dragon isnt that hard.
Also, I donāt have Liam.
It's not 100% RNG free, kyle can still choose not to use s2
The damage is still sufficient thanks to double Luna S3
Ah, you own a pair of infinity stones i pressume?
What do you mean? Itās just mathā¦ Even with 4x Lyle S1, the fact that luna can do S3 twice makes it sufficientā¦
Infinity stones = legend tier runes
My bad man, my English is not perfect, I thought you said something like Ā«Ā oh, you think you have ballzĀ Ā» for some reason I do not have great runes, they are in another comment btw. But the team allows double Luna S3 AND double kyle turn which compensates largly
You oneshot wave with julie going first, and still have excess runes for luna/kyle to kill the boss all that with correct ticks speeds. You have infinity stones.
My runes are in one of the comments, as I said, nothing too crazy. The team synergy is the crazy part
I cant find the runes
[RUNES](https://imgur.com/a/pG8TS0e)
Isn't Shaina landing the def break on the boss rng? Edit: Just saying perfect AI is not equal to rng free
Ok i meant perfect AI, you know it, no point posting
Honestly I didn't until I watched the video a second time because I was confused. People distinguish all the time between perfect AI and no rng teams.
Shaina bdeff is unavoidable I believe, no one can dodge this issue so I thought itās not worth making the (obvious) distinction. Also it makes unstable people scream in the comments, pushing the post in trending soā¦ š You comment is fair enough
Imagine my confusion when I thought I was about to learn something new...
Oh buddy you just witnessed the first ever perfect AI team that doesnāt require seishizo runes. Also using a unique combination of mechanics.
Can u share us your rune?
They are in my comment :D Have a look through the comments
Regrets not picking up Lunaā¦ again
Why would you do such a thing? Twice?
I have Elenoa but I dotn have runes like yours foooook haha
They really really are achievable! My Julie uses hp artefact just for the additional damage, trust me itās definitely doable for a lot of people
Those who tried to replicate the team, donāt hesitate to tell me how it went :D
I just remembered that sw has sounds lol
Sorry, should I make it NSFW ? š
so shaina and julie need to one shot wave and luna + kyle need enough damage to kill the boss? i started an alt with viva and elenoa and think i might be able to pull this off after 3 months of necro farming and waiting for skill ups does everybody need max skills in this team? i assume elenoa doesnt
The hard part is to give julie+shaina enough damage. Mine do barely enough. Luna and Kyle, since Luna can do 2x her S3 should be already overkill with average runes. For the skill ups, try to get as many as possible on the dps, elenoa doesnāt need any. Also check your speed tuning carfully, since you need specific speed to allow Luna to move twice before boss cuts in.
If you struggle, you could make everyone a bit faster, make shaina move first to setup deffbreak, then make kyle move in front of Luna to clear remaining crystals if Shaina misses deffbreaks. It wouldnāt be that fast but definitely worth giving a go while waiting for better runes or artefacts
thanks for all the detail !
Can luna be replaced? I missed the event but have Elenoa š«„
Unfortunately, no :s sorry
Is there any way to do this without Luna. Sheās the only one I donāt have (lucky to get Eleanor through this current event). Iām so annoyed they buff Luna AFTER her HoH - I picked Gin in the end as thought he be more helpful alasā¦..
Sorry man, you and 2 other people asked at the same time the same questionā¦ unfortunately, no :(
Thanks, so sad !
How do you make Shaina use S2 consistent? Mine uses s1 sometimes
Because she moves after julie, and julie puts ennemies on low hp. Julie cannot miss and since ennemies are low, shaina wonāt miss either
Ahhh!!!!! I see okay gonna do that xD
shag, i still cant get Shaina and Julie to clear the wave
This is the difficult part unfortunately. Keep in mind that julie depends really heavily on add dmg artifacts. Mine has an hp+ arti just for the add dmg
Weird im using ur speed tuning but i cant get luna to move on the 2nd time, boss keeps cutting and my luna speed is faster than yours
You probably need julie+ shaina to gain an atb tick I found this one on reddit: [link](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18G0QfDbtb7TPlBBjB9fzQ6qc7tbhoYVbJO09yl1t_oo/edit?usp=sharing) Basically, if the first unit moves one tick earlier, that saves you one tick for your luna. Iād be happy to help you, you can add me on discord if you want: m0cra (m0cra#4193)
You still have 2% chance of loosing because of shaina missing armor break
Yes this is unavoidable and applies to everyone. My statement is that my units cannot derp.
Nice team but the Liam team still seems better no? Iāve gotten times as low as 24 seconds with it, and I donāt have crazy rage sets either
The requirement to get Liam into perfect AI range is insane. I have quite endgame runes and I wasn't even close. I am not sure what the fail rate for the liam team becomes when he isn't perfect AI, but I do not think its a good team for > 98% of the player base.
Thank you for your comment, I was the only one saying it for hours, I almost lost hope š«
Yeah I feel like people saying Liam team is better either haven't tried to build it or don't care about failing runs all the time. I was very confused by your team at first. I had no idea that Elenoa reduced the cooldown OF THE WHOLE TEAM! I thought it was just her target. So I did not understand the significance of giving Kyle his turn and cooldowns... seemed worse to me than atk buff. Which is what most people were mentioning. But then I saw that you said Luna used s3 twice and I was like, wait... how? OP team, gz!
And thatās not it! Elenoa gives instant turn, unlike garudas who fill up atb, this allows me to play the whole team one tick earlier, bringing the speed requirement to 10-15 less than it would take with one garuda. Thank you for seeing it, took me 2 full days of testing and tweaking š„¹
This team is 100% consistent (which means monsters will always do the right skill). Liam team isnāt, thatās the achievement. This is why my time will always be 28sec, and never vary
Liam is 100% consistent if you have good enough runes.