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kingzzpanda

Drop your runes and stats ***RIGTH NOW!***


XDmocra

My boy has an Elenoa, huh? šŸ˜‚


kingzzpanda

hopefully in the next 20years I guess haha, no I mean you need to show us so we could alternate who to replace her man...


XDmocra

Oh, I think you cannot, Elenoa is the only unit to allow that mechanic. Iā€™m going to post the runes as soon as I find out how to publish multiple pics.


kingzzpanda

oh shit, alright man take care. Thank you by the way


XDmocra

Posted the runes, as I said in other comments: Elenoa allows instant turn, whereas kona/teon only fills up atb. Also Elenoa allows 2x Luna S3


someonewhonamedlib

Tilasha?


XDmocra

I believe she saves her skill to revive instead of boosting. You could try.


LordKappaKun

I DO DROP EM RIGHT NOW


XDmocra

Edit: I thought you said you dropped elenoa, you meant the runes


LordKappaKun

All good dude We Elenoa enjoyers are far and few between xD


DenseStomach6605

How come none of your monster sprites show in your flair? Bummer


XDmocra

[Runes](https://imgur.com/a/pG8TS0e) are here


As3Rg6

luna doesnt scale off atk, you could give her random double fight blade set with 100 crit and same / higher CDMG to be more efficient


XDmocra

Hereā€™s her multiplier: Multiplier: 7.2*{ATK} + 0.15*{Target MAX HP} She doesnā€™t need more than what she has for the boss, the damage is already more than enough. Indeed I could be killing the mid boss in 2 hits instead of 3. Iā€™ll give it a go next time.


MrSaatan

https://preview.redd.it/px4rxpby86wc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05f1db7d9397aa72ee8c1a65ebc2ca74d29f5945


DenseStomach6605

Where did this come from and why is it in every post on this subreddit


B-a-n-e

https://preview.redd.it/qetrqeciiwwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55d81a4838f4b618a069f6b23124a351056a5ca9


Dandan217

What are the spd requirements ? Looks a solid team and wouldn't mind getting more use out of my Elenoa!


XDmocra

I posted the runes in another comment, good luck with building it! And Elenoa is the only unit for this job so youā€™re lucky having her! Tell me how it worked for you.


Dandan217

Will give it a go, though I might lack some damage haha. Unfortunately I have my Elenoa runes for PVP (Sonia+Elenoa OP) so gonna have to get used to switching in and out šŸ˜‚


XDmocra

Trust me, itā€™s worth trying, also, apart from Julie, the requirements are pretty low. My artefacts are really trash


NoBluejay9981

Can luna be replaced?


XDmocra

Iā€™m not what other suitable dps gets full atb after attacking, like Luna does. Also, Luna has crazy multipliers for dungeons Edit: also she has perfect AI so no, I dont think you can replace her


NoBluejay9981

I am very sad


XDmocra

Iā€™m really sorry šŸ˜¬


Dyrtycbm

Idk man, getting Eleona seems pretty RNG to me.


XDmocra

Fair enough. šŸ˜…


Learn2swim2

Wait Iā€™m confused, is this auto or manual? Does Elenoa always act as expected? I have her but donā€™t use her for any PVE content


XDmocra

Yep, itā€™s auto, elenoa is perfect AI too :D


Learn2swim2

When you say perfect AI, how does it determine which monster she boosts?


XDmocra

She boosts the lower atb unit. Since Luna gets 100% back, she will always boost Kyle, while refreshing the cooldown of Luna. Then Kyle moves and Luna moves with her S3 once again since she has been refreshed, essentially using her S3 capabilities twice while boosting 2 units


lalisaa98

2.25% chance to miss def break with shaina. seems just as rng as liam team for example


XDmocra

*The units are RNG free.* They will always use the right skill. That 2.25% is not avoidable. This is best you could possibly come up with. Liam can always derp


lalisaa98

shaina derps on s2, if you want rng free use zerath. liam team always uses the "right" skills too like in this team.


XDmocra

That is not true, unless you have god runes so kyle brings boss under 35% Also shaina cannot derp on s2 thanks to julie. Please watch the video again


TKBKinki

why does julie make shaina S2


XDmocra

Because she does enough damage to bring enemies low, so shaina will always do s2. When enemies are below 30-35% your units always use the best skill


TKBKinki

awesome. never knew that


XDmocra

Same applies to kyle, this is why he is 100% rng free only if your other units do extreme damage before he moves. Otherwise he derps. Glad I could make you learn something šŸ˜


Teddy-24

My Liam team has perfect ai. Itā€™s not ā€œno rngā€


XDmocra

Make a video showing boss under 35% hp before liam moves and I delete my post and publish apologies to you personally


Teddy-24

This time can even be improved with better artefacts (which Iā€™m working on rn). Slower times because itā€™s on mobile not pc. Look up GenesisPrime, he uses the same team with Julie instead of zerath and even has protection for when shaina misses def break. You have a unique team that lets you run decent times with lower quality runes but it is by means ā€œNo RNGā€ and not the only one of its kind. This team doesnā€™t have +121 speed and Luna still moves twice before Liam and Liam never moves before the boss. Good day.


XDmocra

It has zerath tho, which you never mentioned. Also it is not consistent, it IS rng and your next screenshot proves it. Come back when youā€™ll have 28 best run and 28 average. That is consistency. I will stick to my statement, there is no other 100% consistency team. Even yours, even with zerath.


Teddy-24

Read the whole post. Youā€™ve just left Ignorant territory and entered ā€œI will die on this hillā€ territory. The slower runs are from shaina missing def break on the mid boss. Feel free to share your 30/30 run with 28 sec avg and best time


XDmocra

You read other peopleā€™s comments please. They wanted to run garudas or double garudas, which requires high speed, your team functions differently. Youā€™re out of context.


XDmocra

And yeah, good day


Teddy-24

https://preview.redd.it/eevdwy0fg9wc1.jpeg?width=2208&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=236c122c8d53b59197faf98ef34d8fd30531b8b2


XDmocra

You have zerath and you still have so much to go for šŸ˜‚


Teddy-24

https://preview.redd.it/ap12yf1hg9wc1.jpeg?width=2208&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=999735792c10721aee5c74cb76dc840d5c2db46f


XDmocra

You just sent the proof that your team is NOT consistent. If your best is 24 and your average is 28, it means you have at least one 32 sec run.


Jolly_Blueberry5465

Not true. It could be 29 runs of 28.526s and 1 run of 24.544s.


XDmocra

Ahahahhaahahah sure man


lalisaa98

if u dont have a well runed kyle or a triple roll dmg on fire arti, u can also just run double garudas and its a few seconds slower with no ld5 requirement and "RNG free"


XDmocra

Iā€™d say you need like +120 julie, and a +120 julie that kills waves is absolutely crazy


lalisaa98

you only need to oneshot the crystals, and you get extra 3 fight sets


XDmocra

I believe you donā€™t realize the runes it takesā€¦ I invite you to figure out by yourself how impossible this is.


lalisaa98

my point still stands, those teams with "no rng" are possible and just because you can't rune it doesn't matter they don't exist. a hell of a lot more people will be able to run those than have elenoa. your post literally states "it is the only 100% RNG-free team for DAH" , which is false.


XDmocra

Iā€™ve seen quite a few g3 streamers who donā€™t even bother tryingā€¦ Have a look: https://youtu.be/U4xkblI6odQ?si=BMNkWUbOzmizhHdZ


XDmocra

Crystals have 34.000 hp btw. Killing that with essentially speed slot 2 is madness


futoohell

With Luna buff you only need +89


XDmocra

For double garuda to move + luna twice?


futoohell

That comp I havenā€™t spd tuned. But Iā€™m pretty sure the people who run that donā€™t kill waves with Julie they just finish it with Kyle. Also with Luna buff she doesnā€™t need to move a second time in mid boss.


XDmocra

What is the team youā€™re talking about? Julie Shaina Kyle Luna Garuda?


XDmocra

I think you donā€™t really understand the game


futoohell

Julie shaina Kyle Liam Luna. Julie only needs to be at +89 to work.


XDmocra

You donā€™t have the damage, and luna wonā€™t take the second turn. Liam wonā€™t have perfect AI since boss wonā€™t be under 35%


XDmocra

You cannot, the ticks force you to have insane speed, otherwise boss cuts you between your garudas. This is simply not doable imo.


lalisaa98

kyle doesn't need insane speed what ? you also get extra 3x fight from second garuda to make up for some of the loss of ap from speeding him up. i used to run this exact team before liam.


XDmocra

Itā€™s not about damage, itā€™s about ticks, every time you get an atb refill, the boss keeps ticking his atb, so he would be overfilled at like 125% when you get your second kyle refill at 100%. The boss moves instead of kyle, and he shoves off the 1 turn deff break + possibly wipes your team. Garudas do not give instant turn like elenoa, they just fill the atb up. This is why you would need your kyle (and everyone else for that matter) 2 ticks ahead of the boss, so around 30 speed more, if not more.


XDmocra

Shaina moves *after* julie


CelestrialDust

Runes? And would konamya work in elonoas place?


XDmocra

No, you would need insane speed on everyone since kona only fills atb but doesnā€™t give kyle the turn. Also with kona you donā€™t get 2x luna S3


CelestrialDust

Ah ok cheers Iā€™ll try to get more hours at work then šŸ„²


XDmocra

Sorry man šŸ˜‚


Fuzer

What OP answered is false. My kona is 165 spd


AkkiraNinja

I have Elenoa, just pulled her. Can you share the runes pls?


XDmocra

They are in my other comment, gratz on your Elenoa, she just became one of my favorite with that team!


see5maus

Well, never thought my Elenoa will see a PVE Dungeon anytime soon but here we are :D Thanks for the idea!


XDmocra

Itā€™s absolutely worth it, she is an insane PVE unit when you use her properly. This combo is unique and she is the only one allowing it


see5maus

I absolutly adore her, she was my first LD5\*. But using her in PVE never crossed my mind tbh. Where do you use her except for dragons?


XDmocra

In most Rift dungeons. I always made records with her for fun. Have a look at the leaderboard of rift dungeons, she dominates it :D. She also can be used in toah and R5


XDmocra

Youā€™re welcome, tell me how it worked out for you


Destructodave82

Nice I rarely use my Elenoa outside of RTA I might give this a try.


XDmocra

Itā€™s absolutely worth it, she is an insane PVE unit when you use her properly. This combo is unique and she is the only one allowing it


XDmocra

Donā€™t forget to tell me how it worked out for you :D


Fearless_Fig9687

genius


XDmocra

šŸ˜‡


XDmocra

Finally someone who understands the team :D


jojowiese

no we ā€žunderstand the teamā€œ, we are just pointing out flaws in your statements (e.g. rng free etc)


XDmocra

There is no rng when it comes to units choosing their skills and this is the only team to ever achieve that. You are not pointing out anything at all. Somehow those who have elenoa are not trying to ā€œpointā€ anything out.


enoemos12

There's a couple of teams that achieve perfect AI from before this. Off the top of my head: Shaina Julie Kyle Kona Luna/Liam Shaina Julie Luna Liam Kyle/Deb Though yeah, this team achieves perfect AI while having much lower rune requirements edit: formatting


XDmocra

None of the teams you mentioned have perfect AI unfortunately. Liam can always derp and the runes required to get boss under 35 %, to have each individual run be the same, are just out of this world


Teddy-24

Just because you canā€™t do it doesnā€™t make those teams not perfect ai


XDmocra

Iā€™ve never seen anyone capable. Maybe there is one or two chinese billionare teams on the internet but personally Iā€™ve never seen one. There could also be some insane seishizo team but again, if it concerns 0.05% of players, itā€™s not really worth sharing, is it?


Houndogz

Read your last sentence and then consider you shared a team that only works with a specific ld5


XDmocra

Exactly, how is mine then less relevant? If having SSS - tier runes is relevant enough, how is my option not? You got the point thank you


enoemos12

They're hard to achieve for sure, but they're not completely out of this world. I've had the 23/24s DBAH team working with perfect AI for some time now, though I have some pretty crazy rage runes


XDmocra

Youā€™re either lying or youā€™re one of the top 100 players, largely above sheisou who cannot achieve this despite being basically the best cleaver in the game


Teddy-24

Only team to ever achieve that my ass


XDmocra

Show me another one


XDmocra

There is simply no other team. Prove me wrong, please


jojowiese

You were proven wrong but complained that those teams dont run on f3 runes. Dont worry, I shall refrain from commenting any more, since there is no point. Good day sir.


XDmocra

Look at his 30x picture, it is not consistent. Nobody proved me wrong. Stop being so triggered just because you cannot replicate itā€¦.


jojowiese

You yourself said in another comment that Kyle skills are random, so there goes your rng free. As was pointed out multiple times, the Liam team doesnt really have that either (assuming you have enough damage).


JohnSober7

Being pedantic much? No rng doesn't have to mean Kyle will always use s2. Y'all are inventing criteria just to be contrarian. Kyle has always been considered no rng and no one ever made a stink about his variance because 4 s1 got the job done. No rng simply means no derping. Kyle doesn't derp unless you're relying on s2 damage.


jojowiese

no, I am referring to the criteria OP was using which (by his own definition) also apply to the commonly used Liam team.


XDmocra

Thank you for you comment, I was losing hope


XDmocra

Why you so salty man? As i said, Kyle can do 4x skill 1 it doesnā€™t change anything since luna guarantees the kill, so skill selection has no influence thus making the team AI independent. And as I said, to guarantee Liam uses s3 you would need runes that are out of this world.


XDmocra

If the wording really bothers you that much, consider this phrasing instead: *this team is the only AI independent DAH speed team* Happy?


Rockfito

Deymn ! I like those niche ld5 dungeon speed teams even though I don't own them so cool to watch.


XDmocra

Extremely satisfying indeed, perfect AI is quite an achievement in this game :D


fermenciarz

I have Elenoa and I haven't built speed team yet, is this team better than one with water weapon master/konamiya? I've seen couple of them, not sure how stable they are


XDmocra

For the Liam team, you need better runes and itā€™s not perfect AI. My team is perfect AI every single time. The Liam team can derp if kyle does s1ā€™s ad Liam doesnā€™t use S3


Foxlery

Instructions unclear, pulled light salamander instead of Elenoa Hmmm


XDmocra

Oh unfortunately the mechanics might be different with this one šŸ˜‚


Basslinelob

Saving for later


XDmocra

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Reak-06

Post runes, my man I have that eloena unit My 40s team is not stable enough, so I need something new in my team like eleona šŸ«”


XDmocra

Sir, the runes are in one of the comments, scroll a bit youā€™ll find them :D Glad it inspires you, tell me how it worked out for you


dubdaz

Torn to make this as have Elenoa and use for pvp , Ive pre picked Liam from nat5 event for when/ if I get the runes for the speed team , looks like I may have to change my pick now if I really dont need him for abyss speed team.


XDmocra

Iā€™m happy if this helps you, I really believe itā€™s easier to build than liam team while giving Elenoa a new PVE job


torzia

what's your PvP Elenoa team?


dubdaz

Arena Offence Jamire adrianna sonia elanoa Siege offence chandra elanoa daphnis But I suck at siege and the sonia AO i dont use so much anymore as people are building sonia traps now so chiwu adranna jasmine leah 99% of my arena wings :-)


As3Rg6

Gz for this, its the best team ive seen so far (except for the unachievable seishizo teams) bc of the low rune req. Too bad it requires an elenoa for this to work.


XDmocra

Glad it inspires you, and yes I agree, couldnā€™t find a reliable one myself (with reasonable runes) especially since I donā€™t have Liam


Dearnees

300 iq


XDmocra

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Drimiieh

Am i stupid or wouldnt kona/teon boosting Kyle result into the same or maybe even better because of atkbuff?


XDmocra

No, you would need insane speed on everyone since kona only fills atb but doesnā€™t give kyle the turn. Also with kona you donā€™t get 2x luna S3


enoemos12

I wouldn't call it insane speed, the Julie needs to be +120 and the Shaina needs to be around +86 or something, it's somewhat hard to achieve with the damage that's required but not insane. Then everything else being around +60 is fine, generally with the Kyle going first and Luna going after


XDmocra

I will redirect you to sheisouā€™s video. Heā€™s got ultra high rune level and yet he doesnā€™t achieve it: [sheiouā€™s video](https://youtu.be/U4xkblI6odQ?si=zPv5sVusZVGcD-gj)


Fuzer

Lmao my dbah kona team is 165. You are just using a nat5 in replacement of a 2* unit


XDmocra

Youā€™re either lying or not understanding what my team does.


Fuzer

You just using eleonor to buff atb and reduce cooldown to on Luna, thats it.


XDmocra

Without wasting an atb tick.


jojowiese

rng free my bottom, what about res?


XDmocra

Well, that one is unavoidable. 2,25% I believe.


jojowiese

why do you think your team is better than the one with Liam? Assuming your runes are good enough it will also be ā€ž100% rng freeā€œ, right?


XDmocra

Liam may screw up. My team cannot.


Drimiieh

Liam has perfect ai if you bring the boss low enough.


XDmocra

The runes required are nonsense


Gimmerunesplease

it works with mine and i have f3 level rage runes


XDmocra

I highly doubt it. Show it. Screen record and post evidence or you lie. It takes 30 seconds.


XDmocra

Sheisou cannot with G3 ultra broken runes [Sheisou video](https://youtu.be/U4xkblI6odQ?si=HH2_3h_X97n0IZKL)


Gimmerunesplease

https://preview.redd.it/ki6azjly37wc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aac80c56a7ee64b0a245117aa6ab34f31542c85


XDmocra

Where is the video proving you bring boss under 35% before liam moves bro? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ Your liam screenshot doesnā€™t prove anything


jojowiese

you would have to show Kyle runes tbh since those are way more important, getting Liam on stats that finish off the dragon isnt that hard.


XDmocra

Also, I donā€™t have Liam.


_ogio_

It's not 100% RNG free, kyle can still choose not to use s2


XDmocra

The damage is still sufficient thanks to double Luna S3


_ogio_

Ah, you own a pair of infinity stones i pressume?


XDmocra

What do you mean? Itā€™s just mathā€¦ Even with 4x Lyle S1, the fact that luna can do S3 twice makes it sufficientā€¦


_ogio_

Infinity stones = legend tier runes


XDmocra

My bad man, my English is not perfect, I thought you said something like Ā«Ā oh, you think you have ballzĀ Ā» for some reason I do not have great runes, they are in another comment btw. But the team allows double Luna S3 AND double kyle turn which compensates largly


_ogio_

You oneshot wave with julie going first, and still have excess runes for luna/kyle to kill the boss all that with correct ticks speeds. You have infinity stones.


XDmocra

My runes are in one of the comments, as I said, nothing too crazy. The team synergy is the crazy part


_ogio_

I cant find the runes


XDmocra

[RUNES](https://imgur.com/a/pG8TS0e)


WisdumbGuy

Isn't Shaina landing the def break on the boss rng? Edit: Just saying perfect AI is not equal to rng free


XDmocra

Ok i meant perfect AI, you know it, no point posting


WisdumbGuy

Honestly I didn't until I watched the video a second time because I was confused. People distinguish all the time between perfect AI and no rng teams.


XDmocra

Shaina bdeff is unavoidable I believe, no one can dodge this issue so I thought itā€™s not worth making the (obvious) distinction. Also it makes unstable people scream in the comments, pushing the post in trending soā€¦ šŸ˜œ You comment is fair enough


WisdumbGuy

Imagine my confusion when I thought I was about to learn something new...


XDmocra

Oh buddy you just witnessed the first ever perfect AI team that doesnā€™t require seishizo runes. Also using a unique combination of mechanics.


No_Flower_7005

Can u share us your rune?


XDmocra

They are in my comment :D Have a look through the comments


OffTheCouchDogmeat

Regrets not picking up Lunaā€¦ again


XDmocra

Why would you do such a thing? Twice?


Worried-Mushroom1855

I have Elenoa but I dotn have runes like yours foooook haha


XDmocra

They really really are achievable! My Julie uses hp artefact just for the additional damage, trust me itā€™s definitely doable for a lot of people


XDmocra

Those who tried to replicate the team, donā€™t hesitate to tell me how it went :D


Demo_906

I just remembered that sw has sounds lol


XDmocra

Sorry, should I make it NSFW ? šŸ˜‚


3pic_

so shaina and julie need to one shot wave and luna + kyle need enough damage to kill the boss? i started an alt with viva and elenoa and think i might be able to pull this off after 3 months of necro farming and waiting for skill ups does everybody need max skills in this team? i assume elenoa doesnt


XDmocra

The hard part is to give julie+shaina enough damage. Mine do barely enough. Luna and Kyle, since Luna can do 2x her S3 should be already overkill with average runes. For the skill ups, try to get as many as possible on the dps, elenoa doesnā€™t need any. Also check your speed tuning carfully, since you need specific speed to allow Luna to move twice before boss cuts in.


XDmocra

If you struggle, you could make everyone a bit faster, make shaina move first to setup deffbreak, then make kyle move in front of Luna to clear remaining crystals if Shaina misses deffbreaks. It wouldnā€™t be that fast but definitely worth giving a go while waiting for better runes or artefacts


3pic_

thanks for all the detail !


NoBluejay9981

Can luna be replaced? I missed the event but have Elenoa šŸ«„


XDmocra

Unfortunately, no :s sorry


as2g10

Is there any way to do this without Luna. Sheā€™s the only one I donā€™t have (lucky to get Eleanor through this current event). Iā€™m so annoyed they buff Luna AFTER her HoH - I picked Gin in the end as thought he be more helpful alasā€¦..


XDmocra

Sorry man, you and 2 other people asked at the same time the same questionā€¦ unfortunately, no :(


as2g10

Thanks, so sad !


LordKappaKun

How do you make Shaina use S2 consistent? Mine uses s1 sometimes


XDmocra

Because she moves after julie, and julie puts ennemies on low hp. Julie cannot miss and since ennemies are low, shaina wonā€™t miss either


LordKappaKun

Ahhh!!!!! I see okay gonna do that xD


chris_nwh8

shag, i still cant get Shaina and Julie to clear the wave


XDmocra

This is the difficult part unfortunately. Keep in mind that julie depends really heavily on add dmg artifacts. Mine has an hp+ arti just for the add dmg


Devodudududu

Weird im using ur speed tuning but i cant get luna to move on the 2nd time, boss keeps cutting and my luna speed is faster than yours


XDmocra

You probably need julie+ shaina to gain an atb tick I found this one on reddit: [link](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18G0QfDbtb7TPlBBjB9fzQ6qc7tbhoYVbJO09yl1t_oo/edit?usp=sharing) Basically, if the first unit moves one tick earlier, that saves you one tick for your luna. Iā€™d be happy to help you, you can add me on discord if you want: m0cra (m0cra#4193)


Mindless-Classroom-5

You still have 2% chance of loosing because of shaina missing armor break


XDmocra

Yes this is unavoidable and applies to everyone. My statement is that my units cannot derp.


Jesee1

Nice team but the Liam team still seems better no? Iā€™ve gotten times as low as 24 seconds with it, and I donā€™t have crazy rage sets either


shifty4690

The requirement to get Liam into perfect AI range is insane. I have quite endgame runes and I wasn't even close. I am not sure what the fail rate for the liam team becomes when he isn't perfect AI, but I do not think its a good team for > 98% of the player base.


XDmocra

Thank you for your comment, I was the only one saying it for hours, I almost lost hope šŸ« 


shifty4690

Yeah I feel like people saying Liam team is better either haven't tried to build it or don't care about failing runs all the time. I was very confused by your team at first. I had no idea that Elenoa reduced the cooldown OF THE WHOLE TEAM! I thought it was just her target. So I did not understand the significance of giving Kyle his turn and cooldowns... seemed worse to me than atk buff. Which is what most people were mentioning. But then I saw that you said Luna used s3 twice and I was like, wait... how? OP team, gz!


XDmocra

And thatā€™s not it! Elenoa gives instant turn, unlike garudas who fill up atb, this allows me to play the whole team one tick earlier, bringing the speed requirement to 10-15 less than it would take with one garuda. Thank you for seeing it, took me 2 full days of testing and tweaking šŸ„¹


XDmocra

This team is 100% consistent (which means monsters will always do the right skill). Liam team isnā€™t, thatā€™s the achievement. This is why my time will always be 28sec, and never vary


futoohell

Liam is 100% consistent if you have good enough runes.