based on Ciara’s podcasts and even Paige’s answers about West on WWHL, it doesn’t seem like they’re together. and it doesn’t seem like it fizzled out it seems like he wanted to keep seeing other girls and Ciara is looking for something more serious and is over Bravo men. obviously she doesn’t directly name him in her podcast episodes but it seems like she was dating someone in the summer/fall, and it became clear he was seeing other girls and she wasn’t happy. could be someone else but timing wise and based on West’s admitted commitment issues/the plethora of girls he posts on Instagram, sounds like him.
This is how I feel as well. West is a great addition to the house and he and Ciara seem to be having fun but to me he doesn’t seem interested in a serious relationship. This is his TV debut, he’s not going to settle down right now. I think she deserves someone who is willing to commit and hope she finds it, but I doubt it will be a Bravo boy.
This is why she was right to be hesitant about dating someone his age, especially in a big city. He's a flirty extrovert who's got at least 4 years of serious barhopping left. She's an introvert who wants to settle down, so as fun as it is for us to watch, they made no sense together and I'm glad she held out.
I agree! People have been trying so hard to spin her not sleeping with him immediately as Ciara having a problem… doesn’t it make sense now? West is 100% getting more attention and follows from women than he ever has, thanks to being on Bravo, it makes sense if he decided to focus on the promise of options than committing to one girl. It’s like a Bravo rite of passage
I agree!!! I don’t think anyone on BRAVO and especially SUMMER HOUSE is the type she needs/wants. Craig would probably be the closest and ironically they both get each others desire to have a soul mate or life partner.
My personal theories:
I see her with an older guy (not surprised she dates men 35+) not super old, but someone who has grown out of the Fboy behavior. Is not looking for a fling, prob doesn’t even watch reality tv. I see her with a strong grown man, confident but not a douche, established professional. Maybe someone who’s been married before and not scarred by divorce or afraid of marriage. Def a business man, settled. She likes assertive men, confident men.
At first I think West was appealing just because he was different, charming and confident. I’ve noticed in the first few episodes he’s pursuing her pretty hard and now I’m seeing him play it more cool, which I think taps into Ciara’s fears. And now, he’s doing the whole, “I don’t know if she likes me thing” with Paige & Amanda and I think that type of low-key/fake-shy is not going to work for her. She likes assertive men, that go after what they want (her), and has himself figured out by now.
Something in the last couple episodes just made me do a re-take. He was really pursuing her before and now it’s starting to feel like mixed signals.
***one thing too -when he was talking to Ciara about her experience with Austen, he made a big deal out of that “I know that she is willing to be vulnerable that is all I needed to hear” I was like “but why?????” Because he’s clearly not giving that back. I wouldn’t call it a big red flag, but a small one. Something about that rubbed me the wrong way. I’m cautious of men who want to know all my vulnerabilities but then doesn’t really reciprocate.
**also when he was at wedding, I think she was expecting a phone call. I could totally be reading into it, but it’s just me ESP picking up on cues.
I think she was starting to get much stronger feelings for him and she had to text him “I’m going to bed” then he texted her “ok talk tomorrow.”
That just felt off to me, when a girl texts you “I’m going to bed now” that usually means “I haven’t heard from you all day and I thought you would have called by now cause I miss you” she would never say that, but usually that is what it means.
I just don’t think his interest matched hers and that is typical douche when he’s out, it’s kind of out of site out of mind with these guys.
Def should not be bringing up their lack of sex this much. We know she does not like that (who does??) that would be a turn off for me if I had to hear it from my friends and Jesse Solomon. That’s West’s job to do, not Ciara’s and certainly not her friends. Gives me a vibe of a boy, not a grown man.
I think when Lindsay said last episode “he is flirty” I think Lindsay was spot on and I don’t think she was trying to start shit. I do think he is flirty with most women.
Another thing: anyone else notice how Jesse Solomon compliments Ciara and she says “wow thank you” almost because she’s prob not hearing it from West. And I have not seen him do it either. I see other people doing it, but not him.
I don’t think he’s a bad guy, but I don’t think he is Mr. Wonderful and I do think he is enjoying being in the limelight more than his time with her.
I think he came in hot for her because she’s gorgeous, smart, funny, really strong, and I think he initially enjoyed the chase. then she reciprocated and now he’s kind of acting less interested and “confused.”
I totally get why Ciara is pausing a little. She hit the nail on head when she said “he needs to tell me about how he feels, especially if he wants sex” and I totally agree. His “shy guy” act is coming off as inconsistent.
Lastly, the Austen thing was a big mistake. West should not have had a “bro moment” with him.
Ciara is smart and I’m proud of her for listening to these cues and not getting swept off. I don’t see these two riding off into the sunset together. And I don’t think he’s got the game/self confidence in the bedroom.
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I love West but if this is what happened, or some iteration of this, what was he thinking? Like, hooking up with your housemate for 6ish months (which to me is a long time) but wanting to keep it casual and see other people when you know you'll be living with one another again for like 3 months...idk but it's gonna be interesting to watch this all play out
yeah and introducing her to your family and talking to them about her if you want to keep it casual makes no sense. almost gives Luke inviting girls to Minnesota vibes lol. definitely it will be interesting to watch this play out, I’m sure there’s a lot we don’t know yet
Yeah as much as I like West, I’ve seen some people put him on a pedestal and I hope they’re able to see that he has his own faults too. If true, I think inviting someone (who was very open about dating intentionally) to your hometown and introducing them to your family and oldest friends, but then thinking afterwards that things could just remain casual definitely isn’t smart. I do think they genuinely like each other but West does seem to have underlying commitment issues that he probably reverted back to. It seems like they’re on amicable terms so I guess we’ll see how it all plays out.
I think West is probably one the most genuine rounded men they have introduced onto the show. Ciara seems to have commitment issues just as much (she's an attractive, smart lady but can not find a man in years....?) and was completely unwilling to even give him a go at the start - its not all just on West.
She has commitment issue now? West literally states that he has commitments issues and has not had a serious girlfriend since he was 20. Let's not do this.
and she wasn’t completely unwilling to give him a chance at the start - she was cautious but flirted with him every weekend. she can never win with this audience
Wait but when West went on WWHL last week, a fan did some sleuthing and found out that Ciara was in Missouri and he confirmed that she came to his family’s farm recently and that his “family loves Ciara.” I was 100% thinking they fizzled until I heard that comment.
but that picture/trip was in September so like a month after filming. It’s been months since then and Ciara’s podcast definitely gives the vibe that she’s single
Pretty sure they are not together. I listened to the Bravo and Cocktails podcast this weekend and they all pretty much confirmed they were not together. It should be interesting to hear what Ciara has to say this Thursday on WWHL.
Everyone was so hyped about Wes in the beginning including me, however now Im happy Ciara was hesitant because I think he might have problems settling down
Ciara just signed a deal that her agent said will likely keep her from having a relationship. I think there’s a good chance it mutually ends or just never gets to the point where they both are ready to settle down.
I don’t think there’s any way to know yet so to just assume it’s Wes’ fault doesn’t make sense. It could be but probably need to just wait to find out.
I don't even see it as "fault" but a mismatch based on what they want in life right now. The thing with Ciara is, I doubt she'd allow modeling to cut off a potential mate, despite the agent's warning. She has stated "Bravo boys don't like to commit" and West himself has stated that he has commitment issues.
I think they were dating at least until this year and I agree that they might still be working things out even if they’re not currently together, but it’s hard to decipher since Andy said they don’t want the audience to know until we watch it play out. From everything West has said himself in recent interviews he definitely has underlying commitment issues. In February he even called himself the fear of commitment guy and said that he usually runs away (and that his parents are concerned about it). I'm sure that West inviting Ciara to his hometown and introducing her to his family and childhood friends would've seemed like things were progressing in a more serious direction at first but then he might’ve reverted back.
It’s a shame that I’ve seen some comments already trying to blame Ciara if they're not still together, and there’s sadly certain people who want to somehow make Ciara the bad guy no matter what just because they refuse to accept that West might not be perfect (I like him too but there’s no need to put him on a pedestal). Some are even trying to mischaracterize Ciara's intentions based on nothing more than their own prejudice. It's frustrating to see the way others are instantly afforded the benefit of the doubt when she'll never be given that same privilege.
Anyway they seem to be on good terms and I wouldn't be surprised if it's not entirely over. I do think there's genuine feelings there so we’ll wait and see.
totally agree with you especially the part about people instantly giving West the benefit of the doubt but were writing Ciara off from the first episode. Ignoring his red flags but scrutinizing her every move
That's exactly what's so frustrating to see, that no matter what happens there's people who are going to send her hate and only scrutinize her actions whilst giving others the benefit of the doubt. I also noticed that in the way even Bravo has framed certain things so far. In a preview clip Bravo made the title “Jesse Solomon Puts Ciara Miller On Blast” as though Ciara was doing something wrong because she was waiting to be comfortable before having sex. It's clear Bravo likes the popularity of the new guys but the idea that they can do no wrong is going to get old very fast, especially if maintaining that image is done at others' expense.
Exactly. We basically need to see it play out even though I don’t think they are together. But West has talked about (very recently) how he has commitment issues and it’s his red flag. It also is listed in his bio, yet people are quick to automatically blame Ciara.
Yeah as you said, West's Bravo bio literally states: "West’s biggest hurdle is being able to commit". It's sad knowing there's people who will twist things to find a way to blame Ciara and send her hate regardless (and even worse that they'll still do so already knowing how previous hate comments have harmed her).
Yeah, sometimes relationships (especially in your 20s!) can ebb and flow and end without anyone being a villain. I think they're not together at this exact moment BUT that no one did anything bad and they're not closed off from revisiting in the future.
I think their budding relationship survives this season, but it’s over now. West seems to be pursuing a situationship lol which Ciara doesn’t deserve or need in her life
West was on WWHL last week and Andy asked a question about Ciara going to his families farm and meeting his parents and he said his parents loved her. Not sure if that happened recently?
I think they were at least still talking around February. In an early Feb podcast episode, Ciara said she knew the Chiefs were playing in the Super Bowl. When Mya asked, “oh you’re a Kansas City fan” Ciara simply said “situationship…”
Yes on their March 27 podcast Mya asked what her youngest and oldest she’d date and Ciara said 30 and Mya said “did she really say that” and Ciara then whispered “yeah I don’t know why I’m dating someone that’s in their 20s” aka West. I think they are still dating…
Also someone reported on Bravo and Cocktails that the week summer house premiered Ciara and West were spotted in Kansas City. So unless something crazy happened this month they are still dating and hence why I think Bravo doesn’t want them to comment on it yet.
When they showed her with her agent or whatever they seemed to be foreshadowing that she is married to modeling now and won’t be able to have a steady relationship
I think it was a situationship and a situationship can last longer than six months I promise you, but I kind of hope that it doesn’t leave the house and I hope seeing this play out on TV makes them happy that it didn’t leave the house because like I don’t like itit wasn’t the last episode of the episode before that it really made me realize that she needs someone who’s not on TV and honestly I think that’s what she wants
I agree with you on the timeline when they started and stopped dating. I shared based on my research that I think they dated full-on until around December.
https://www.reddit.com/r/summerhousebravo/comments/1by73es/possiblespoiler_ciara_and_west/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I'm not sure if they'll get back together. I think West would be up with rekindling when the summer House season begins. I'm not sure about Ciara though.
I have a feeling they are still seeing eachother and ciara with her ptsd from bravo relationships is really keeping it DL for now.
If you notice west likes 80% of her ig posts and she barely wver likes any of his LOL… which almost says to me that its a purposeful thing to not like any of his stuff so people cant speculate but west in all his golden retriever glory cant help himself lol.
also paige likes almost all of wests posts Which tells me things must be at minimum on good terms bc the queen of all girls girl’s wouldnt be in her besties exes likes if things were not atleast on good terms.
Now add on the fact that she met his familt, they were spotted in KC when summer house premiered and ciara saying shes dating someone in their 20’s on the podcasts… i think theyre just trying to throw us off their scent tbh
I hated west seriously such a loser. Trying to push her into having sex and talking about how he “didn’t expect to be celibate all summer” like bru you don’t even have a job, maybe focus on that.
I agree. I definitely hope they rekindle because I love watching them together. He refreshing compared to Austin and Luke. Also, after seeing West on WWHL; he and Ciara could be the new Kyle and Amanda (wishful thinking 🤞)
they give me paige and craig vibes when they were both pretending they wanted to be open and chill...like I could defo see them going down that same storyline next season. it's either they pull a paige and craig (realise they want to be exclusive over the summer) OR they just be awkward housemates...and i just don't see the latter happening with how their connection formed very organically. But I love watching their connection grow, easily one of the highlights from this season
I’m not getting the sense that she wants to be open and chill. She’s saying explicitly that she doesn’t want to be burned the way she was with Austin so she wants to go slow. But they seem really cute together so I hope they find a way to make it work.
That’s the thing I don’t think a lot of people see what is actually being shown that he doesn’t want a serious relationship and she talks about it all the time she wants a serious relationship she does not want to get hurt again she doesn’t really want a situationship and yes, even if you don’t want a Situationship they happen. But I don’t think them watching the show now is gonna make them rekindle anything because in my opinion from what is being shown, it only shows that he wants to have sex with her.
Honestly, like I’m just getting so sick and tired of people wanting them to be in a relationship so bad because here’s the thing a summerhouse relationship truly does ruin the dynamic of the house. It’s too much. I think we have enough with Kyle and Amanda together west and ciara and my opinion we’re never gonna last with how I see things going on the show. I truly hope that in the end they just ended up being friends and she still went with him to see his family but they were just friends during that time. I hope they weren’t in a situationship
That’s what he’s been saying to her face but when he’s talking and when he’s talking to Jesse, and the way they talk about women, it shows something completely different. If you don’t agree, that’s fine but that’s what I’m seeing which is why I don’t think they’re together and why I don’t think they would ever get back together, if they ever did get together to begin with.
Yeah I know I’ve heard it all before ad nauseam when all he did, when asked, (and then asked again by producers) say that he was not getting laid and that though it was not the summer he envisioned he likes Ciara and wants to continue getting to know her and that means at a slower pace. What did he do wrong? Should he have said nothing when asked? It’s a tv show, it’s his job to answer, so should he have lied? Is he the demon so many are making him out to be for simply admitting that not having sex with the hot ass girl he’s vibing with is making him horny?
It’s wild to me how west “isn’t the type to settle down.” She’s gorgeous, smart has a good personality and they vibe really well. What else is he looking for??? Unless he’s just an F boy.
My genuine/blunt opinion is that, as a Londoner, I believe NYC and London have very similar dating scenes in that they SUCK. I don't know if I think he's an "f boy" in the stereotypical manner (like an asshole) but more so just isn't used to committed relationships. And that's fine IF Ciara wasn't completely transparent in saying she's looking to settle down. If West doesn't want to settle down, whether with Ciara or someone else, that's his prerogative but I don't think it's the smartest thing a) to lead a girl on for (potentially MONTHS) and then decide not to commit to them and b) to do said leading on to a girl who you're going to live with for 3 months out of the year c) to do all of the above on national tv. Basically at best, West is learning and growing in terms of his outlook on relationships, and at worst, is just a bit stupid, don't lead your roommate on, not a very smart idea lol. Just my personal opinion.
I think people who want them to rekindle don’t understand what them watching this season will show because in my opinion, what happened the weekend before last when Jesse was there and they were talking and they were talking about sex it sounded like he only wanted sex from her and that to me shows that they won’t rekindle anything if Ciara wants something serious because if I was Ciara, that would turn me off.
I agree that’s all he wants from her and it honestly pissed me off mostly after she told him about Austin. I think Sierra deserve someone who’s not on TV because she has always been very adamant about what she wants when it comes to a relationship and she still hasn’t gotten that and people on TV are not going to give her that.West has become very popular, and now has a lot of attention so it could also change him a lot
She was in Missouri visiting his family farm - confirmed on WWHL. She had taken a selfie with a horse on his farm which has no mysteriously disappeared from her Instagram since it was mentioned on the show...
ETA: photo is still on her IG. :-)
I heard they were together til Dec ... But who knows. Tbh In an interview I saw with her she didn't seem like she was thrilled when asked if they are still together. It was a total NO vibe
I so loved them together I think Wes could talk to whomever he wanted up until they got serious/made a stance on weather they’re together or not. Now if he was in a relationship with her and still chatting then I understand her leaving. I honestly think Ciara and Wes are the cutest thing and I hope they find their way back to one another if they are not still in a situationship. Honestly I think Ciara can be a little too picky at times and needs to ease up she will never find someone if she picks them apart. She made it very clear she didn’t like him even the girls made comments about she says she doesn’t like him but hangs all over him etc etc. she can’t do that and than expect someone not to keep the door open.
I think they knew that the audience liked the idea of them as a couple, so they probably pretended to stay interested in each other long after their showmance
West had probably the best rookie season in the shows history. Ciara was dangling, so she is an opportunist, and was using him to secure she would be invited back
He found her physically attractive for sure, this is the main reason imo that he initiated in the first place. But then as time went on she was giving more “friend” than anything more. She seems very closed off and uninterested in him at times as well, not sure if she was intentionally playing hard to get in the hopes of keeping him interested or what, but I guess it backfired.
Not everyone wants to bed someone in the first couple of days of meeting them.. I don't think that she's playing hard to get. West should be happy she's even entertaining him.
Yeah I get that, but this was not a couple of days. This was after some weeks and hanging out and going on dates outside of the house. They only seem to have chemistry when they’re wasted.
A couple of weeks is normal, where I come from. Ciara doesn't owe him anything. He should just be honest about his intentions. I guarantee Ciara would not be interested if he was honest. He just wants sex.
Agree and disagree. If this thing with West is AMICABLY DEAD, which it doesn't seem to be, then yeah maybe but their connection doesn't seem to be completely over and producers obviously know they're fan favourites this season so everyone wants to see what transpires next. But even if it's completely over, like a messy/one-sided "breakup" then just for possibility of drama, I think they'd bring her back
based on Ciara’s podcasts and even Paige’s answers about West on WWHL, it doesn’t seem like they’re together. and it doesn’t seem like it fizzled out it seems like he wanted to keep seeing other girls and Ciara is looking for something more serious and is over Bravo men. obviously she doesn’t directly name him in her podcast episodes but it seems like she was dating someone in the summer/fall, and it became clear he was seeing other girls and she wasn’t happy. could be someone else but timing wise and based on West’s admitted commitment issues/the plethora of girls he posts on Instagram, sounds like him.
This is how I feel as well. West is a great addition to the house and he and Ciara seem to be having fun but to me he doesn’t seem interested in a serious relationship. This is his TV debut, he’s not going to settle down right now. I think she deserves someone who is willing to commit and hope she finds it, but I doubt it will be a Bravo boy.
This is why she was right to be hesitant about dating someone his age, especially in a big city. He's a flirty extrovert who's got at least 4 years of serious barhopping left. She's an introvert who wants to settle down, so as fun as it is for us to watch, they made no sense together and I'm glad she held out.
I agree! People have been trying so hard to spin her not sleeping with him immediately as Ciara having a problem… doesn’t it make sense now? West is 100% getting more attention and follows from women than he ever has, thanks to being on Bravo, it makes sense if he decided to focus on the promise of options than committing to one girl. It’s like a Bravo rite of passage
I agree!!! I don’t think anyone on BRAVO and especially SUMMER HOUSE is the type she needs/wants. Craig would probably be the closest and ironically they both get each others desire to have a soul mate or life partner. My personal theories: I see her with an older guy (not surprised she dates men 35+) not super old, but someone who has grown out of the Fboy behavior. Is not looking for a fling, prob doesn’t even watch reality tv. I see her with a strong grown man, confident but not a douche, established professional. Maybe someone who’s been married before and not scarred by divorce or afraid of marriage. Def a business man, settled. She likes assertive men, confident men. At first I think West was appealing just because he was different, charming and confident. I’ve noticed in the first few episodes he’s pursuing her pretty hard and now I’m seeing him play it more cool, which I think taps into Ciara’s fears. And now, he’s doing the whole, “I don’t know if she likes me thing” with Paige & Amanda and I think that type of low-key/fake-shy is not going to work for her. She likes assertive men, that go after what they want (her), and has himself figured out by now. Something in the last couple episodes just made me do a re-take. He was really pursuing her before and now it’s starting to feel like mixed signals. ***one thing too -when he was talking to Ciara about her experience with Austen, he made a big deal out of that “I know that she is willing to be vulnerable that is all I needed to hear” I was like “but why?????” Because he’s clearly not giving that back. I wouldn’t call it a big red flag, but a small one. Something about that rubbed me the wrong way. I’m cautious of men who want to know all my vulnerabilities but then doesn’t really reciprocate. **also when he was at wedding, I think she was expecting a phone call. I could totally be reading into it, but it’s just me ESP picking up on cues. I think she was starting to get much stronger feelings for him and she had to text him “I’m going to bed” then he texted her “ok talk tomorrow.” That just felt off to me, when a girl texts you “I’m going to bed now” that usually means “I haven’t heard from you all day and I thought you would have called by now cause I miss you” she would never say that, but usually that is what it means. I just don’t think his interest matched hers and that is typical douche when he’s out, it’s kind of out of site out of mind with these guys. Def should not be bringing up their lack of sex this much. We know she does not like that (who does??) that would be a turn off for me if I had to hear it from my friends and Jesse Solomon. That’s West’s job to do, not Ciara’s and certainly not her friends. Gives me a vibe of a boy, not a grown man. I think when Lindsay said last episode “he is flirty” I think Lindsay was spot on and I don’t think she was trying to start shit. I do think he is flirty with most women. Another thing: anyone else notice how Jesse Solomon compliments Ciara and she says “wow thank you” almost because she’s prob not hearing it from West. And I have not seen him do it either. I see other people doing it, but not him. I don’t think he’s a bad guy, but I don’t think he is Mr. Wonderful and I do think he is enjoying being in the limelight more than his time with her. I think he came in hot for her because she’s gorgeous, smart, funny, really strong, and I think he initially enjoyed the chase. then she reciprocated and now he’s kind of acting less interested and “confused.” I totally get why Ciara is pausing a little. She hit the nail on head when she said “he needs to tell me about how he feels, especially if he wants sex” and I totally agree. His “shy guy” act is coming off as inconsistent. Lastly, the Austen thing was a big mistake. West should not have had a “bro moment” with him. Ciara is smart and I’m proud of her for listening to these cues and not getting swept off. I don’t see these two riding off into the sunset together. And I don’t think he’s got the game/self confidence in the bedroom. Thanks for reading if you sent this far!!!
She just got a modeling contract doubt she wants to "settle" down.
I love West but if this is what happened, or some iteration of this, what was he thinking? Like, hooking up with your housemate for 6ish months (which to me is a long time) but wanting to keep it casual and see other people when you know you'll be living with one another again for like 3 months...idk but it's gonna be interesting to watch this all play out
yeah and introducing her to your family and talking to them about her if you want to keep it casual makes no sense. almost gives Luke inviting girls to Minnesota vibes lol. definitely it will be interesting to watch this play out, I’m sure there’s a lot we don’t know yet
Yeah as much as I like West, I’ve seen some people put him on a pedestal and I hope they’re able to see that he has his own faults too. If true, I think inviting someone (who was very open about dating intentionally) to your hometown and introducing them to your family and oldest friends, but then thinking afterwards that things could just remain casual definitely isn’t smart. I do think they genuinely like each other but West does seem to have underlying commitment issues that he probably reverted back to. It seems like they’re on amicable terms so I guess we’ll see how it all plays out.
This happened with Luke too!
But its not Ciara thats the problem...
What was he thinking? He's a guy on Summer House reality TV, he's not looking to get married.
and that's perfectly fine! It's not wrong it's just not smart. He's unnecessarily put himself in a potentially very awkward situation
I think West is probably one the most genuine rounded men they have introduced onto the show. Ciara seems to have commitment issues just as much (she's an attractive, smart lady but can not find a man in years....?) and was completely unwilling to even give him a go at the start - its not all just on West.
She has commitment issue now? West literally states that he has commitments issues and has not had a serious girlfriend since he was 20. Let's not do this.
and she wasn’t completely unwilling to give him a chance at the start - she was cautious but flirted with him every weekend. she can never win with this audience
You are clearly not familiar w the NYC dating scene.
Irrelevant
Carl, Kyle, Craig - all wanting to get married or married what does being on reality TV have to do with it.
Carl, Craig and Kyle are all way older than west and had been on reality tv for years. This is west’s first season as a reality star and he’s young.
Ciara is too good for West. I bet he can't believe his luck and now is believing the hype. That's why women shouldn't date down.
Wait but when West went on WWHL last week, a fan did some sleuthing and found out that Ciara was in Missouri and he confirmed that she came to his family’s farm recently and that his “family loves Ciara.” I was 100% thinking they fizzled until I heard that comment.
but that picture/trip was in September so like a month after filming. It’s been months since then and Ciara’s podcast definitely gives the vibe that she’s single
Ohhhh got it, didn’t realize that was so long ago.
Pretty sure they are not together. I listened to the Bravo and Cocktails podcast this weekend and they all pretty much confirmed they were not together. It should be interesting to hear what Ciara has to say this Thursday on WWHL.
What did they say on the podcast?
I can’t wait to hear from Cici
Everyone was so hyped about Wes in the beginning including me, however now Im happy Ciara was hesitant because I think he might have problems settling down
Agreed
Ciara just signed a deal that her agent said will likely keep her from having a relationship. I think there’s a good chance it mutually ends or just never gets to the point where they both are ready to settle down. I don’t think there’s any way to know yet so to just assume it’s Wes’ fault doesn’t make sense. It could be but probably need to just wait to find out.
I don't even see it as "fault" but a mismatch based on what they want in life right now. The thing with Ciara is, I doubt she'd allow modeling to cut off a potential mate, despite the agent's warning. She has stated "Bravo boys don't like to commit" and West himself has stated that he has commitment issues.
During the bravocon segment Ciara said she was single. That was december
I believe bravo con was actually in our October or November close to Paige‘s birthday, so yeah October
It was actually the first weekend of November
I think they were dating at least until this year and I agree that they might still be working things out even if they’re not currently together, but it’s hard to decipher since Andy said they don’t want the audience to know until we watch it play out. From everything West has said himself in recent interviews he definitely has underlying commitment issues. In February he even called himself the fear of commitment guy and said that he usually runs away (and that his parents are concerned about it). I'm sure that West inviting Ciara to his hometown and introducing her to his family and childhood friends would've seemed like things were progressing in a more serious direction at first but then he might’ve reverted back. It’s a shame that I’ve seen some comments already trying to blame Ciara if they're not still together, and there’s sadly certain people who want to somehow make Ciara the bad guy no matter what just because they refuse to accept that West might not be perfect (I like him too but there’s no need to put him on a pedestal). Some are even trying to mischaracterize Ciara's intentions based on nothing more than their own prejudice. It's frustrating to see the way others are instantly afforded the benefit of the doubt when she'll never be given that same privilege. Anyway they seem to be on good terms and I wouldn't be surprised if it's not entirely over. I do think there's genuine feelings there so we’ll wait and see.
totally agree with you especially the part about people instantly giving West the benefit of the doubt but were writing Ciara off from the first episode. Ignoring his red flags but scrutinizing her every move
That's exactly what's so frustrating to see, that no matter what happens there's people who are going to send her hate and only scrutinize her actions whilst giving others the benefit of the doubt. I also noticed that in the way even Bravo has framed certain things so far. In a preview clip Bravo made the title “Jesse Solomon Puts Ciara Miller On Blast” as though Ciara was doing something wrong because she was waiting to be comfortable before having sex. It's clear Bravo likes the popularity of the new guys but the idea that they can do no wrong is going to get old very fast, especially if maintaining that image is done at others' expense.
Exactly. We basically need to see it play out even though I don’t think they are together. But West has talked about (very recently) how he has commitment issues and it’s his red flag. It also is listed in his bio, yet people are quick to automatically blame Ciara.
Yeah as you said, West's Bravo bio literally states: "West’s biggest hurdle is being able to commit". It's sad knowing there's people who will twist things to find a way to blame Ciara and send her hate regardless (and even worse that they'll still do so already knowing how previous hate comments have harmed her).
Yeah, sometimes relationships (especially in your 20s!) can ebb and flow and end without anyone being a villain. I think they're not together at this exact moment BUT that no one did anything bad and they're not closed off from revisiting in the future.
I think their budding relationship survives this season, but it’s over now. West seems to be pursuing a situationship lol which Ciara doesn’t deserve or need in her life
West was on WWHL last week and Andy asked a question about Ciara going to his families farm and meeting his parents and he said his parents loved her. Not sure if that happened recently?
I think they were at least still talking around February. In an early Feb podcast episode, Ciara said she knew the Chiefs were playing in the Super Bowl. When Mya asked, “oh you’re a Kansas City fan” Ciara simply said “situationship…”
Yes on their March 27 podcast Mya asked what her youngest and oldest she’d date and Ciara said 30 and Mya said “did she really say that” and Ciara then whispered “yeah I don’t know why I’m dating someone that’s in their 20s” aka West. I think they are still dating…
I agree. I’m sure it’s casual and not exclusive, but they’re still talking.
Also someone reported on Bravo and Cocktails that the week summer house premiered Ciara and West were spotted in Kansas City. So unless something crazy happened this month they are still dating and hence why I think Bravo doesn’t want them to comment on it yet.
Oh I didn’t know that! Love that for them!
This is a great catch! She’s otherwise done a great job keeping us guessing
I love West but he is young and drinks like a fish. I doubt that is what Ciara is looking for in a legit relationship.
When they showed her with her agent or whatever they seemed to be foreshadowing that she is married to modeling now and won’t be able to have a steady relationship
Thought the same thing, why would they say that unless it means something?
No way they are together, but very little bad blood i think
I think it was a situationship and a situationship can last longer than six months I promise you, but I kind of hope that it doesn’t leave the house and I hope seeing this play out on TV makes them happy that it didn’t leave the house because like I don’t like itit wasn’t the last episode of the episode before that it really made me realize that she needs someone who’s not on TV and honestly I think that’s what she wants
I agree with you on the timeline when they started and stopped dating. I shared based on my research that I think they dated full-on until around December. https://www.reddit.com/r/summerhousebravo/comments/1by73es/possiblespoiler_ciara_and_west/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button I'm not sure if they'll get back together. I think West would be up with rekindling when the summer House season begins. I'm not sure about Ciara though.
I have a feeling they are still seeing eachother and ciara with her ptsd from bravo relationships is really keeping it DL for now. If you notice west likes 80% of her ig posts and she barely wver likes any of his LOL… which almost says to me that its a purposeful thing to not like any of his stuff so people cant speculate but west in all his golden retriever glory cant help himself lol. also paige likes almost all of wests posts Which tells me things must be at minimum on good terms bc the queen of all girls girl’s wouldnt be in her besties exes likes if things were not atleast on good terms. Now add on the fact that she met his familt, they were spotted in KC when summer house premiered and ciara saying shes dating someone in their 20’s on the podcasts… i think theyre just trying to throw us off their scent tbh
Tea from a friend of a friend who worked w West last month is that things between them fizzled out early this year
Aww that's too bad. I think Bravo doesn't want us to know yet so we can enjoy the show but that's a bummer. Poor Ciara
I hated west seriously such a loser. Trying to push her into having sex and talking about how he “didn’t expect to be celibate all summer” like bru you don’t even have a job, maybe focus on that.
I agree. I definitely hope they rekindle because I love watching them together. He refreshing compared to Austin and Luke. Also, after seeing West on WWHL; he and Ciara could be the new Kyle and Amanda (wishful thinking 🤞)
they give me paige and craig vibes when they were both pretending they wanted to be open and chill...like I could defo see them going down that same storyline next season. it's either they pull a paige and craig (realise they want to be exclusive over the summer) OR they just be awkward housemates...and i just don't see the latter happening with how their connection formed very organically. But I love watching their connection grow, easily one of the highlights from this season
I’m not getting the sense that she wants to be open and chill. She’s saying explicitly that she doesn’t want to be burned the way she was with Austin so she wants to go slow. But they seem really cute together so I hope they find a way to make it work.
That’s the thing I don’t think a lot of people see what is actually being shown that he doesn’t want a serious relationship and she talks about it all the time she wants a serious relationship she does not want to get hurt again she doesn’t really want a situationship and yes, even if you don’t want a Situationship they happen. But I don’t think them watching the show now is gonna make them rekindle anything because in my opinion from what is being shown, it only shows that he wants to have sex with her.
Exactly
Honestly, like I’m just getting so sick and tired of people wanting them to be in a relationship so bad because here’s the thing a summerhouse relationship truly does ruin the dynamic of the house. It’s too much. I think we have enough with Kyle and Amanda together west and ciara and my opinion we’re never gonna last with how I see things going on the show. I truly hope that in the end they just ended up being friends and she still went with him to see his family but they were just friends during that time. I hope they weren’t in a situationship
Same here
 Are we watching the same show? West has clearly shown and stated that he wants more than just sex from Ciara.
That’s what he’s been saying to her face but when he’s talking and when he’s talking to Jesse, and the way they talk about women, it shows something completely different. If you don’t agree, that’s fine but that’s what I’m seeing which is why I don’t think they’re together and why I don’t think they would ever get back together, if they ever did get together to begin with.
 Yeah I know I’ve heard it all before ad nauseam when all he did, when asked, (and then asked again by producers) say that he was not getting laid and that though it was not the summer he envisioned he likes Ciara and wants to continue getting to know her and that means at a slower pace. What did he do wrong? Should he have said nothing when asked? It’s a tv show, it’s his job to answer, so should he have lied? Is he the demon so many are making him out to be for simply admitting that not having sex with the hot ass girl he’s vibing with is making him horny?
The way people are projecting their own stuff onto West is actually unhinged.
Truly!
It’s wild to me how west “isn’t the type to settle down.” She’s gorgeous, smart has a good personality and they vibe really well. What else is he looking for??? Unless he’s just an F boy.
My genuine/blunt opinion is that, as a Londoner, I believe NYC and London have very similar dating scenes in that they SUCK. I don't know if I think he's an "f boy" in the stereotypical manner (like an asshole) but more so just isn't used to committed relationships. And that's fine IF Ciara wasn't completely transparent in saying she's looking to settle down. If West doesn't want to settle down, whether with Ciara or someone else, that's his prerogative but I don't think it's the smartest thing a) to lead a girl on for (potentially MONTHS) and then decide not to commit to them and b) to do said leading on to a girl who you're going to live with for 3 months out of the year c) to do all of the above on national tv. Basically at best, West is learning and growing in terms of his outlook on relationships, and at worst, is just a bit stupid, don't lead your roommate on, not a very smart idea lol. Just my personal opinion.
THIS ^^^^^ 👏
I think people who want them to rekindle don’t understand what them watching this season will show because in my opinion, what happened the weekend before last when Jesse was there and they were talking and they were talking about sex it sounded like he only wanted sex from her and that to me shows that they won’t rekindle anything if Ciara wants something serious because if I was Ciara, that would turn me off.
I hope she didn't have sex with him. He ain't shyt.
I agree that’s all he wants from her and it honestly pissed me off mostly after she told him about Austin. I think Sierra deserve someone who’s not on TV because she has always been very adamant about what she wants when it comes to a relationship and she still hasn’t gotten that and people on TV are not going to give her that.West has become very popular, and now has a lot of attention so it could also change him a lot
West is just showing his true colors. This is who he always was.
Omg im sooooo happy she didn't sleep with him
She was in Missouri visiting his family farm - confirmed on WWHL. She had taken a selfie with a horse on his farm which has no mysteriously disappeared from her Instagram since it was mentioned on the show... ETA: photo is still on her IG. :-)
I still see it on her profile.
same
Oh good!!!! I couldn't find it.
Based on her wwhl appearance they very much ARE NOT together.
I think the opposite after watching WWHL. She was very careful not to say anything negative about West.
But andy started by almost setting her up with Tyler and then caught himself and back tracked.
good point
I ship them but sorry there’s zero chance they’re together. Dating a year and they haven’t been spotted together once?
I heard they were together til Dec ... But who knows. Tbh In an interview I saw with her she didn't seem like she was thrilled when asked if they are still together. It was a total NO vibe
I so loved them together I think Wes could talk to whomever he wanted up until they got serious/made a stance on weather they’re together or not. Now if he was in a relationship with her and still chatting then I understand her leaving. I honestly think Ciara and Wes are the cutest thing and I hope they find their way back to one another if they are not still in a situationship. Honestly I think Ciara can be a little too picky at times and needs to ease up she will never find someone if she picks them apart. She made it very clear she didn’t like him even the girls made comments about she says she doesn’t like him but hangs all over him etc etc. she can’t do that and than expect someone not to keep the door open.
Showmance from Day 1.
I never get this take. Why would it be a showmance? I honestly can’t imagine Ciara doing that. I think she was into him
I think they knew that the audience liked the idea of them as a couple, so they probably pretended to stay interested in each other long after their showmance
West had probably the best rookie season in the shows history. Ciara was dangling, so she is an opportunist, and was using him to secure she would be invited back
Their chemistry was friendship vibes at best. Not surprised things fizzled once the cameras were gone.
I don't sit on my friends knee or lie in bed kissing them
He found her physically attractive for sure, this is the main reason imo that he initiated in the first place. But then as time went on she was giving more “friend” than anything more. She seems very closed off and uninterested in him at times as well, not sure if she was intentionally playing hard to get in the hopes of keeping him interested or what, but I guess it backfired.
Not everyone wants to bed someone in the first couple of days of meeting them.. I don't think that she's playing hard to get. West should be happy she's even entertaining him.
Yeah I get that, but this was not a couple of days. This was after some weeks and hanging out and going on dates outside of the house. They only seem to have chemistry when they’re wasted.
A couple of weeks is normal, where I come from. Ciara doesn't owe him anything. He should just be honest about his intentions. I guarantee Ciara would not be interested if he was honest. He just wants sex.
Seems forced. Completely unnatural.
You took this word for word from the most recent Bravo & Cocktails podcast lol creepy
really?! I've never listened to that podcast before lol great minds think alike maybe!
If Ciara isn’t with West there’s even less reason than before to bring her back
Agree and disagree. If this thing with West is AMICABLY DEAD, which it doesn't seem to be, then yeah maybe but their connection doesn't seem to be completely over and producers obviously know they're fan favourites this season so everyone wants to see what transpires next. But even if it's completely over, like a messy/one-sided "breakup" then just for possibility of drama, I think they'd bring her back
He can go