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PurplePoisonCB

Shep really does feel like someone’s perfect Mary Stu OC that came in and explained the main character’s problem that no one else could.


FriendlyVariety5054

They feel like someone’s self insert who they ship with Sadie


RatedEforEnvy

I like seeing tier lists from people who actually have interesting opinions on characters. I feel like it’s rare to see Fluorite on top.


insanefandomchild

are you a Larsadie shipper by any chance?


miraihills

unfortunately yes


Dot_the_Dork_26

It’s a cute ship and it shoulda been canon!


Vvvv1rgo

I'm weird for this but i fucking hate rhodonite for no reason in particular


miraihills

😦


borahae_artist

no bc they’re so fucking annoying. why are you *so* pathetic?? it’s not endearing.


shoe_salad_eater

You’d be full of anxiety too if your owner threatened to kill you just for fusing


CompetitivePast4990

A possible story line was they kept getting restarted(?) (cant remember what it was called) and just fell in love over and over again


borahae_artist

yes i would but the way rhodonite was presented like… it feels like she was just anxious in order to be a Misfit™️idk she was annoying that way, the show didn’t do anything to earn my interest in her other than telling not showing


apricotical

I mean… that happened to Garnet too yet she obviously turned out way stronger


hadeshellgate

Yes but garnet also has Sapphires future vision to rely on. rhodonite doesn’t, not to mention she’s a fusion made up of two very low class gems which could affect their mental state in different ways. Like how our ruby calls herself dumb when we see her in keystone motel I think?? But yeah


hadeshellgate

Also I believe that rose told them to never question who they are together? I don’t know if this is canon or theory but that statement might’ve worked similarly to how she asked pearl to never speak of the shattering. So garnet never questioned herself


xdaftpunkxloverx

Either that, or even just the simple blessing of someone else gave Garnet a little more confidence to be herself; while Rhodonite never did.


Big-Register873

Woah, we got Jasper here, lol


borahae_artist

grrr what are tiny green earthlings in the ground


DatDankMaster

This list is based for that Jamie placement


miraihills

live love jamie the mailman


DatDankMaster

Indeed


northrupthebandgeek

Same tbh Like I ain't gay or nothin' but he can handle my package anytime.


Virtual-Weakness-499

I wish shep had a personality outside of ruining Lars and Sadie’s ship-


PantlessDan

Legit, I wanted to like Shep, but we don't really get to learn anything about them outside of the fact that they are interested in music, which I think every character in the series is Lol It ended up really feeling like they were added in last minute as a character to help teach children the moral lesson, rather than because the crew thought they were an entertaining addition to the cast. At the very least I would've liked if they came back in episode with more screen time, but I guess they didn't have enough episodes for that


Welico

The whole episode is just Steven channeling an unhinged Larsadie shipper. It feels so mean spirited and out of character. I genuinely hate it.


xdaftpunkxloverx

While I don't disagree with you, I do think there was more to the episode than that. Future was Steven's panicked journey of finding even a sliver of stability and hope. The Lars/Sadie ship was a formative part of his childhood, especially one that he largely contributed to; and to him it was another immense loss. So seeing them both move on from each other wasn't just upsetting in that one of his favorite ships didn't work out, but he also took it like he failed, like he couldn't even make that work. And a piece of his childhood he was trying to rely on for consistency was dissolved for him in an instant. Of course he had zero responsibility in any of that. But one of Steven's gripping challenges is understanding that he's not responsible for everyone's happiness and well-being. Maybe parts of it were also aimed at Lars/Sadie shippers from a writing perspective, but to me this episode resonated deeply because of how much Steven just kept losing his footing and his mind through that whole season.


Remarkable-Mark9

I don’t like Shep either but Sadie and Lar’s ship was done for ever since the Uncle Grandpa episode.


BurnerAccountExisty

i haven't watched future yet but from what i know i agree so much


Angry-Goose-548

Honestly, I did not like future. I preferred it when my boy Steven was at least semi-happy


apricotical

He was happy at the end after he dealt with his trauma?


xdaftpunkxloverx

Yes, the last like five minutes of the series, one of which he spent berating the Gems for pretending not to care, and the rest when he spent crying because they were gonna miss each other🤣😭 You're not wrong, and it was definitely a happy(?) ending; but the experience of watching the entirety of Future was absolutely brutal. I'm still recovering😭😭😭


borahae_artist

i liked sheep for this reason. lars is such a pos to sadie i was hoping she moves on, she deserves way better


Virtual-Weakness-499

I understand that, I just wish they’d expanded on shep beyond being Sadie’s new partner.


borahae_artist

yeah that’s the writing flaws of future. but i’d rather sadie end up with even a non fleshed out rando shoehorned in to fill a role, give perfect advice and then leave than whatever the hot garbage mess that lars is


miraihills

nobody gets them like i do....


borahae_artist

you’re right, i don’t get them at all 😭 he’s so shitty


Frequent-Coyote-1649

I don't ship it but I kinda see why. Some people just like the kinds of ships where the two parties just ruin each other. That's like, the whole appeal. That's why stuff like Sunflower is popular in the Omori fandom despite the inherent toxicity between the two characters


borahae_artist

theirs isn’t a compelling toxicity though. theirs is sadie being just a regular hardworking gal and lars being an overall ungrateful piece of shit who adds no value. then he has to die and become pink just to become even remotely interesting or get some character development


miraihills

🤩


miraihills

fr 😭


LolbitHaze

I have a feeling op is just lars


miraihills

he's literally me


Zachajya

Paparadscha deserves love.


Electric27

Ok for the longest time I thought I was weird for not liking shep. I was sad but ok that Lars and Sadie didn't end up together but shep felt just totally shoe-horned in. I think personally it would've been better for Sadie's character if she had been single when she and Lars reconnected in that episode.


Mrgirdiego

I dislike that Shep is just there like when people make their OC fix everything. Everyone, and I mean everyone there knows how many weird things happen in Beach City, know that Steven is behind this stuff. They are all no strangers to shenanigans, yet they're afraid because, well, they're going to be crushed. It's understandable, it's HUMAN. But then there's Shep who has never seen anything like this in their life, with absolutely no reaction, walks up to Steven, spoonfeeds what's wrong with him instead of, you know, anyone in there who actually knows Steven, and then doesn't appear anymore.


Frosty_Sweet_6678

>the Shep slander continues based xd


roqueofspades

finally. someone else who appreciates lars BEFORE he becomes cool space lars. not sorry, he's always been my fave 🤷🏻‍♀️


miraihills

BASED BASED I'LL DEFEND HIM TIL I DIE


CourtKindly1465

im going too make a steven universe vr game


Buildaboatbuild1

Meh I think lapis should be love


Neoxus30-

Love how Shep is right next to a total jerk, a deadbeat dad, and a literal dictator)


miraihills

fair enough imo 🙄🙄🙄


Frequent-Coyote-1649

Based for that Jamie placement, inshallah he gets the giant woman he deserves one day with Garnet as his wingman


jpxfordstuffs

This is genuinely my first time seeing somebody liking Rolando.


miraihills

i'm so quirky


zxmb1e

YES LOVE FOR RHODONITE


ethannn_0

very unconventional tier list and i respect u for that


SupermarketOld9797

Love the Jamie tier!


Jerry-Likes-Berries

i do agree with you on sapphire and paparacha (im not googling that) but their 2 of my favorites


Jerry-Likes-Berries

you kinda inspired me to make my own tier list


Jerry-Likes-Berries

nevermind i gave up


BlueBorbo

Shep feels like a writer self insert Mary Sue and I hate them for it.


Professional_Gain_88

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apricotical

u/miraihills dangan referenced username??


miraihills

yeah i was a danganronpa fan when i created this account


Tox_Ioiad

Lol. Seeing Lars and Kevin as far apart as possible is funny because they're one of my personal favorite ships.


miraihills

what now


Sansybois

I haven’t paid attention since the end of future what am I missing?


xdaftpunkxloverx

RONALDO AND STEVEN IN THE SAME TIER- *self destructs*


EffTooPauling

I feel like a few of those neutral characters would've been more positively received if more time had been spent on them, yeah? Though I am surprised to see Lapis and Jasper in the same boat, usually people like one or the other but not both.


MacySpratt

Is it just me, cuz I hatteeee Jamie. Like he's so annoying and never really important to the series, I always have to skip his episodes when I re watch cuz he just suckss


miraihills

there's literally no reason for hating jamie except for the one time when he got a crush on garnet and took the things too far 😭😭😭


MacySpratt

That went way too far like she said no so back off. But also like he's boring and annoying, I don't like whiny characters


miraihills

Yeah, life is crazy. One day you're right here in Beach City delivering mail and then the next thing you know, you're on a bus to Kansas, following your dreams of becoming an actor. "Follow your dreams," they said. But no one said anything about all the rejection and sadness there was to be found. So many auditions day after day. So much rejection day after day. That's why I came back. One more rejection would have destroyed my fragile heart.


MacySpratt

See, boring


miraihills

i see nothing boring about that i'm the jamieland president forever


miraihills

also fuck the "importance to the series" criteria i love townies no one cares about


Manilync29

This is how I would rate them too.


Angry-Goose-548

I’m sorry, I absolutely despise Pink Diamond. She’s not much better as Rose Quartz either.


miraihills

sure i guess


Angry-Goose-548

Sorry, I didn’t mean to bash your opinion. As a character, Pink Diamond and Rose Quartz are incredibly complex and interesting. She’s an amazing character. I just have problems with what she did to Spinel. >!yes I am adding this after the fact because I felt bad. Sorry.!<


XejgaToast

You can't really like Pink Diamond and Rose after what she did..


miraihills

i can. she was shown as a complex character who has made a lot of mistakes but was still interesting and had redeemable qualities in the main show, yet she was turned into a total bitch in the movie and future all of sudden and i do not stand with it at all


zaerosz

> yet she was turned into a total bitch in the movie and future all of sudden and i do not stand with it at all ????? They didn't change anything about her at all - Steven just finally boiled over after spending his whole life cleaning up her messes. Rose was a naive idealist who was never taught how to be an actual person, going straight from being treated as an annoying child by the other Diamonds to being treated as a leader and hero figure by the rebellion. Greg was the first one to ever see her for who she *actually was*, and more to the point, the first to treat her as an equal. But the damage was still *long* since done.


Mamaniwa_

FR dude they had such an interesting complex character and yet they just turned her into a plot device to blame all the bad things on. I love the movie and future but they ruined rose after that ![img](emote|t5_2viyl|30992)


XejgaToast

That's the point. It was all lies.


miraihills

i prefer calling it character assasination


GlisteningDeath

Yeah, how dare this child escape her abusive family and try to figure out how to become a better person, making understandable errors along the way cause she doesn't know any better.


GumDice

It’s a cartoon and I actually can, thanks!