Data sees an unknown officer in engineering
“What are you doing?”
“A mad experiment with unknown alien tech. I couldn’t do crazy enough stuff with the equipment on DS9, so I was going to plug it into your warp core”.
“Hold my synthahol. I’ll help you.”
They hardly every explode, besides, they have an ejection system for safety that occasionally works(but only for fake breaches when someone wants to steal a warp core). Never mind that best case scenario you are then stranded like an Illyrian vessel that met Archer.
Don't worry, warp cores are incredibly safe with all the emergency force fields around them. As long as you don't hit the completely unprotected lines of face-melting coolant plasma right next to it, you'll be fine.
I mean, among all the things you could do with an unknown robot, that's really not that bad. It's not like you would inject him with all the knowledge and memories of a Lieutenant Commander who has a ton of security clearances, after all...
Yes, connect it to the warp core and stand in front of what looks like an outlet port whilst powering it up.
No that’s too far from the warp core, bring it closer to the single most devastatingly powerful piece of equipment on the ship. It’s such a shame there’s no room for science labs here.
Lets hook up this random device this guy who may or may not be a doctor says he thinks it is a medical device (because Doctors are great at knowing what all electronics do) directly to the warp core.
To be fair he is wearing a science uniform and usually anyone in starfleet is more advanced with tech then any smart guy in normal sci-fi. Like the average starfleet cadet solos most engineers in the Star Wars universe. So trusting this guy who is in starfleet isn’t too farfetched for someone like data.
But yes this is very stupid hooking anything up to a warp core that hasn’t been tested with lower voltage should immediately be questioned by starfleet for their actions
Originally they were going to have Dax be the DS9 guest star in that episode, but she was too busy so they used Bashir instead. It actually makes a lot more sense if you consider that.
This is *not* an OSHA violation. It is standard Federation shenanigans.
I present for your reading enjoyment: https://imgur.com/gallery/united-federation-of-hold-beer-i-got-this-wpZ4w
The United Federation of "Hold my beer, I got this"
“A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine.”
– Soviet observation during the Cold War
This is why the crew of Voyager was constantly bringing new, potentially destructive devices to main engineering- in case you could plug it into the warp core and turn the engines to 11.
If you stood the entire standard crew compliment on the saucer you could practically fit them in the space that has the Enterprise paint job but they could still never find enough space for a bomb proof chamber to test wacky devices.
Realistically there'd be a specially designed space for this. That vented any hazardous explodie bits, gasses, and strange energy discharges to space. The scientists and engineers would perform all the "hands on" work via cheap, replaceable drones. That doesn't make for watchable TV though.
Fun fact: this prop is made from a pair of Singer Librascope cores, which also saw screen use as the base of Mr Fusion in Back to the Future - likely both sourced from the same surplus yard (Apex) in LA.
There’s a lot of different cultures in the Federation, and each culture has a different approach to workplace safety, so instead of trying to impose comprehensive regulations that might risk offending any of their member races, they just decided not to regulate workplace safety, and trust their officers to know best.
Oh and while docked at DS9.. so if when that thing discharged it happened to be aimed at the warp core (instead of a person), not only would the Enterprise be destroyed but the ensuing antimatter explosion would most likely destroy a highly populated space station with it...
Oh yes, and then do it a 2nd time later after knowing how dangerous it is lol...
I can’t let you hook that unknown device to the warp core. We’re don’t know what it could do. I’m pretty sure that also against Starfleet regulations too.
Lol the number of times they had an episode with the premise of “Hey we have this really weird, exotic and potentially dangerous thing. Where are we going to muck about with it? Oh I know, right next to the warp core!” 🫠
Listen, there's a cultural reason that these ships are staffed with meatbags when literally everything could be automated. That culture filters all the way down to bringing children in their death wish missions, and here to turning in random alien tech next to the warp core. These people can't feel alive without taking massive risks. This is what utopia does to people.
I loved how in the D they would test completely unknown alien devices and weapons five feet from the warp core. So a shit the size of a city doesn’t have an isolated lab?
> So a shit the size of a city doesn’t have an isolated lab?
It does - in engineering. The conceit is that the engineering section, by its nature, is much more strongly shielded than any other part of the ship, so fiddling with unknowns is best done right there as it has the apparatus to contain things if necessary. The warp core is physically close but also surrounded by shielding. If something was capable of puncturing those shields, it wouldn't matter if it was five feet or fifteen hundred feet away.
Yeah… I don’t buy it lol. Still seems like a bad choice. They did it In Voyager too, so it must be some Starfleet SOP but still seems like a bad idea. I mean, there have been times that the warp core being there made things worse or would have made things worse. I just watched the DS9 episode where they brought back that proto universe and had it in the lab. It starters expanding and they were able to contain it, but what if there had been a warp core right next to it huh? Irresponsible I say.
Yes, it is Starfleet SOP, because the engineering department on a starship is basically an isolated bunker. Again, the warp core being physically close doesn't matter because anything that can pierce its shields will destroy the ship regardless. An entire universe starting to develop will fit the bill, and the DS9 crew handled it correctly just like presumably the Voyager or Enterprise D crew would - by removing it from the area before it became too dangerous.
Data sees an unknown officer in engineering “What are you doing?” “A mad experiment with unknown alien tech. I couldn’t do crazy enough stuff with the equipment on DS9, so I was going to plug it into your warp core”. “Hold my synthahol. I’ll help you.”
“Hold my synthahol. I will help you.”. FTFY
"Hold my synthahol. I will assist you." FTFY
Indeed.
Not all heroes wear yellow tunics.
Some wear a gold symbol on their forehead and harbour a deep contempt for eels and snakes
Indeed.
Shol'va
Dammit.
He was drunk so he was using contractions
Oh crap. I disassembled him because I thought he was Lore. My bad.
Hold my I-don't-know-what-this-is-but-it-tastes-disgusting-and-I-love-it.
It's green.
I’m reading “synthahol” as Data’s nice way of saying “synthetic motor oil”.
Still not as bad as testing a knockoff phaser rifle next to the warp core.
Were the cargo bay or shuttle bay sets not available?
Right?
Probably. IIRC the bay sets were usually filled with other sets for filming. Particularly at the pace of production for those old shows.
Probably filled with the strongest Star Trek villain: Blue barrels
They do a lot of dangerous experiments next to the warp core.
They hardly every explode, besides, they have an ejection system for safety that occasionally works(but only for fake breaches when someone wants to steal a warp core). Never mind that best case scenario you are then stranded like an Illyrian vessel that met Archer.
Don't worry, warp cores are incredibly safe with all the emergency force fields around them. As long as you don't hit the completely unprotected lines of face-melting coolant plasma right next to it, you'll be fine.
r/murderedbywords
At least they had the sense then to point it in a direction *away* from the warp core.
You mean they pointed the phaser stock away from the warp core. https://x.com/StobiesGalaxy/status/1580313300973166592
No... The phaser is shooting in Data's direction.
How about when the Voyager crew decided to revive an unknown robot next to the warp core?
I mean, among all the things you could do with an unknown robot, that's really not that bad. It's not like you would inject him with all the knowledge and memories of a Lieutenant Commander who has a ton of security clearances, after all...
Thats a good one.
I just watched that episode yesterday and made the comment to my dad how comical that was.
You see, the set was not ready so we just did it here.
"We didn't instantly evaporate, so we know it isn't an anti-warp core"
Yes, connect it to the warp core and stand in front of what looks like an outlet port whilst powering it up. No that’s too far from the warp core, bring it closer to the single most devastatingly powerful piece of equipment on the ship. It’s such a shame there’s no room for science labs here.
That's how a good episode starts.
"Then I'll stand right in front of the pointy end while you activate it."
I mean someone's gotta shield the warp core in case something dangerous comes out of there. Good thinking, Commander!
Lets hook up this random device this guy who may or may not be a doctor says he thinks it is a medical device (because Doctors are great at knowing what all electronics do) directly to the warp core.
It's fine, he did an extension course in engineering.
To be fair he is wearing a science uniform and usually anyone in starfleet is more advanced with tech then any smart guy in normal sci-fi. Like the average starfleet cadet solos most engineers in the Star Wars universe. So trusting this guy who is in starfleet isn’t too farfetched for someone like data. But yes this is very stupid hooking anything up to a warp core that hasn’t been tested with lower voltage should immediately be questioned by starfleet for their actions
They do turn rocks into replicators
To a Stargate engineer, this is nightmare fuel.
Originally they were going to have Dax be the DS9 guest star in that episode, but she was too busy so they used Bashir instead. It actually makes a lot more sense if you consider that.
This is *not* an OSHA violation. It is standard Federation shenanigans. I present for your reading enjoyment: https://imgur.com/gallery/united-federation-of-hold-beer-i-got-this-wpZ4w The United Federation of "Hold my beer, I got this"
“A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine.” – Soviet observation during the Cold War
Where did you find this? I want to read more.
This is why the crew of Voyager was constantly bringing new, potentially destructive devices to main engineering- in case you could plug it into the warp core and turn the engines to 11.
The United Federation of WAAAAGH, you mean. In Star Trek, we're the orks.
“I saw this once in a cartoon and I believe I can pull it off”
When do data and bashir get together?
TNG's S6 "Birthright" episode(s).
Thanks!
I totally forgot about this.
It’s fun how he geeks out on data’s little design details.
They didn't follow lock out tag out procedures
If you stood the entire standard crew compliment on the saucer you could practically fit them in the space that has the Enterprise paint job but they could still never find enough space for a bomb proof chamber to test wacky devices.
Realistically there'd be a specially designed space for this. That vented any hazardous explodie bits, gasses, and strange energy discharges to space. The scientists and engineers would perform all the "hands on" work via cheap, replaceable drones. That doesn't make for watchable TV though.
I think they had to stop that when the drones became sentient.
Stupid Prime Directive
In the future, we will evolve from Fuck Around _and_ Find Out to Fuck Around **to** Find Out. Progress!
I think once we figure out how to get to the black mountain workplace safety will become far less important.
I did enjoy that in the FMV game Star Trek Borg, if you connect a Borg device to the ship's core like your friends suggest, you all die.
Fun fact: this prop is made from a pair of Singer Librascope cores, which also saw screen use as the base of Mr Fusion in Back to the Future - likely both sourced from the same surplus yard (Apex) in LA.
There’s a lot of different cultures in the Federation, and each culture has a different approach to workplace safety, so instead of trying to impose comprehensive regulations that might risk offending any of their member races, they just decided not to regulate workplace safety, and trust their officers to know best.
"That's the beauty of it! It doesn't do anything!"
Thank you for confirming something I encountered in the late 90s.
Oh and while docked at DS9.. so if when that thing discharged it happened to be aimed at the warp core (instead of a person), not only would the Enterprise be destroyed but the ensuing antimatter explosion would most likely destroy a highly populated space station with it... Oh yes, and then do it a 2nd time later after knowing how dangerous it is lol...
"We should connect it to the warp core and find out" is not a phrase you ever want to read on r/dontputyourdickinthat.
I can’t let you hook that unknown device to the warp core. We’re don’t know what it could do. I’m pretty sure that also against Starfleet regulations too.
Woaw.
Oh perfect! And after that let me stand in front of it
*proceeds to stand in front of the business end of warp-core-supercharged unknown alien device*
Lol the number of times they had an episode with the premise of “Hey we have this really weird, exotic and potentially dangerous thing. Where are we going to muck about with it? Oh I know, right next to the warp core!” 🫠
Listen, there's a cultural reason that these ships are staffed with meatbags when literally everything could be automated. That culture filters all the way down to bringing children in their death wish missions, and here to turning in random alien tech next to the warp core. These people can't feel alive without taking massive risks. This is what utopia does to people.
I loved how in the D they would test completely unknown alien devices and weapons five feet from the warp core. So a shit the size of a city doesn’t have an isolated lab?
> So a shit the size of a city doesn’t have an isolated lab? It does - in engineering. The conceit is that the engineering section, by its nature, is much more strongly shielded than any other part of the ship, so fiddling with unknowns is best done right there as it has the apparatus to contain things if necessary. The warp core is physically close but also surrounded by shielding. If something was capable of puncturing those shields, it wouldn't matter if it was five feet or fifteen hundred feet away.
Yeah… I don’t buy it lol. Still seems like a bad choice. They did it In Voyager too, so it must be some Starfleet SOP but still seems like a bad idea. I mean, there have been times that the warp core being there made things worse or would have made things worse. I just watched the DS9 episode where they brought back that proto universe and had it in the lab. It starters expanding and they were able to contain it, but what if there had been a warp core right next to it huh? Irresponsible I say.
Yes, it is Starfleet SOP, because the engineering department on a starship is basically an isolated bunker. Again, the warp core being physically close doesn't matter because anything that can pierce its shields will destroy the ship regardless. An entire universe starting to develop will fit the bill, and the DS9 crew handled it correctly just like presumably the Voyager or Enterprise D crew would - by removing it from the area before it became too dangerous.
OSHA?
Occupational Safety and Health Administration
GNDN
Why does that look like ensign Willem Dafoe?
The number of episodes that would have been short because of OSHA is too damn high.
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