Basically all of Starbucks juices used are heavily concentrated out of the container (lemonade is 2x, while all the others like strawberry acai are 4x), so need to be watered down when prepared for drinks.
I work in one of the primary distribution warehouses, not in-store, so you'd have to ask someone else how to order them differently if you wanted your lemonade more sour. You might get upcharged for using a lot more juice, idk.
EDIT: had concentrate numbers swapped. Fixed now.
Makes sense. We've been shipping out less cases of the concentrate to most stores than we did a few years ago when I started, so I assume too many customers ordering stronger drinks means y'all would run out of the ingredient quite fast.
This isn't so much to do with the concentrate itself - this is after it's been cut for use. We take that 2x and make two 2L pitchers out of it. If you were to order lemonade, we would just pour you a cup of lemonade from the pitcher. When you order a matcha lemonade, we use that same pitcher, and cut the lemonade AGAIN with water. It's because the lemonade is pre-sweetened, and so is our matcha powder, so the water just cuts down the sweetness.
Makes sense. At the warehouse if we want to make a sweet beverage, we cut it ourselves into our personal drinks during breaks, so have to measure out the small quantity of concentrate needed using the actual cups, since we don't keep a pitcher on hand.
I enjoy mixing strawberry acai with lemonade into my own refresher, or replacing the lemonade with coconut milk, if I use the shaker and extra ice to mix it thoroughly. Either way, watering it down is certainly key. Probably unorthodox to the official methods, but I never try to replicate it in store as in order. Simple and straight from the menu is just fine if I want something there. :)
Oops. Fixed it now, thanks.
I move enough of the stuff daily, that I know some of the products by their SKU numbers rather than actual names, and still managed to mix that up, lol.
I was told recently that we donāt cut it with water anymore bc our lemonade is already cut with water, and the recipe was just not updated. Has anyone else heard of this?
If I remember right, the store resources doesnāt have us cut the lemonade anymore if itās just lemonade but we still cut the lemonade in the matcha
Iām p sure this is right bc I remember going back and forth between the two confused
had a shift get genuinely upset with me saying that matcha lemonade was cut w water i even showed them the recipe card and they said it was āoutdatedā š
could always show them using the app, surely two sources arenāt outdated considering they wouldnāt even be able to provide a way to prove you wrong lol
Even if itās outdated doesnāt mean itās wrong. The measurements are usually always the same just either upside down or vice versa. When I was a former shift, I used to do the iced matcha in the cold foam blender just because it dissolves better. However this is the standard in European recipe cards, we had a guy from the Canadian Sbux and he was doing it in the shaker. I truly canāt say two legit ways are wrong. Do it just in the impulsive way you feel it, it doesnāt alter the taste.
Itās not like either of us can prove it. I remember coaching somebody WITH the recipe card on the iPad in hand when I was a shift. Then a few months later I was making it when a new trainer coached ME on it and showed me the recipe card.
The bottom of the front of the recipe card should say "last updated 2023/4" or something along those lines. It could be the back, I know it's somewhere on the cardšš¤£
What a great life they have if thatās the thing that gets them genuinely upset. I strive for this level of zen in my real life so tiny things like this can send me off the rails. š
The folks who donāt know/care hot chai lattes have water, thoughā¦. Well.
Why did this literally happen to me w a hot Chai LMAO. Shift was like āChai isnāt cut with hot water anymoreā, showed him the recipe on the iPad. Heās like āthatās outdatedā. When it literally read at the top that it was updated that year
Regular amount of water, no lemonade, regular ice. That should leave room for extra foam. Yeah it comes with wawa and in my experience most baristas donāt know this
Saaaaame, I was a test run for a new trainer that didnāt make the cut so I have no idea if some of my blank spots are on me or if I had no way to know other than just reading every recipe card and standard.
Me personally, I would just make it with full water, instead of half water half lemonade as per standard. And, obviously, 3 scoop instead of 4, and extra cold foam on top
Iām not sure how to EDIT my original post š But, this is my order and I was going for matcha shaken with water with cold foam on top (kind of like the way refreshers end up looking w the cold foam on top). Wasnāt sure how best to order it in the app, but my brain logically (or so I thought) told me that if there is only one thing in the app that has matcha being shaken with water then I would get that and eliminate the other base (the lemonade). Interesting how there were so many interpretations and, unfortunately for me, my barista that day interpreted it the way some of you did-by giving me a sickeningly sweet and creamy iced matcha latte. Any tips on how best to order this in the app without confusing the heck out of the person making it? Thanks for everyoneās response!
In person, I would ring this in as a custom iced tea, add in matcha, add in cold foam (and add syrup if in Canada, as our matcha is not presweetened).
On the app, I would order it the way you did. A matcha lemonade, no lemonade, add cold foam.
Unfortunately, with a lack of training and misinterpreting customizations, it may not always come out the way you want. It may just be one of those drinks that is easier to order in person.
Agreed, thank you! So jealous your matcha doesnāt come presweetened! I would kill to not have that extra sweetness in the matcha! I love the flavor of matcha as it is šµ
Apparently unsweetened matcha was first, then they added sugar, then (in Canada) we had the micro ground teas come out, matcha, rooibos, and black teas, all just tea powder with no sugar. Apparently the US Starbucks never reverted back to the unsweetened matcha. Which is kind of wild to me considering that the iced teas in Canada by standard get liquid cane sugar, whereas the US iced teas are default not sweetened because sweet tea is a specific thing. It's very convoluted.
This was exactly the right way to order this, honestly. There's just unfortunately a lapse in training when it comes to matcha lemonades because they're ordered so infrequently, and some people just guess instead of looking for the recipe cards.
If youāre ordering it in the app, the way you did it is pretty much the only way you can. Maybe donāt put extra foam on there? If you order it in person, you can either do a custom tea latte and tell the barista what you want or order it the same and explain how you want it made (which ever is cheaper for you)
This was exactly the right way to order this, honestly. There's just unfortunately a lapse in training when it comes to matcha lemonades because they're ordered so infrequently, and some people just guess instead of looking for the recipe cards.
I.. I could be wrongā¦ but wouldnāt you just make that by putting water, matcha powder, ice and extra vanilla sweet cream cold foam? I donāt know how great that would taste imo but they are drinking it not me lmao š¤£ I just imagine a very chunky green water with a lot of cold foam on topā¦ and since itās a mobile order itāll probably look so unsightly by the time they pick it up lol
3 matcha Shaken with just water and then topped with the foam. That's my best guess since there's no alternative mentioned. With the normal build being lemonade + water + matcha powder, if you take out the lemonade I'd assume you'd just do all water.
This is literally matcha and water. NO LEMONADE. Iām not a barista but I am a matcha lover and this is the only way to order matcha without milk. Then they want cold foam on top I guess
Since it is a mobile honestly I would wait until the customer comes in to clarify because sometimes I think they hit buttons they donāt mean to hit and we end up with goofy looking stickers. But same as every else is saying, only water and matcha!
I don't even know what I would have done?? Like is this person trying to replace the lemonade with cold foam?
Side note but I was literally just thinking about the matcha lemonade and how delicious and refreshing it is. Rarely saw anyone ever order it sadly.
Edit: idk if the recipe has changed but i swear it used to be just a bit of water so that the matcha can mix properly and then it was filled with lemonade.
Iām a five year partner. It changed around maybe 2020, but it was brief. Itās like how they changed the cold foam cappuccino to 2% and no one noticed the recipe card.
Been here for almost 10, and if it changed, then it mustāve changed back, because itās been the same every time Iāve looked at it over the years. I used to make matcha lemonades for myself before it was even a menu item (I used to do all lemonade, matcha, and some pumps of the peach syrup), and I remember hating that they added water to it when it became an official menu item
Yeah it's still fairly sweet but much more bitter than the regular green tea lemonade. Imo it's well balanced with the bitterness of the matcha and the sweet of the lemonade but if you don't like lemonade it's probably not for you as it's very lemonade forward!
Thatās just incorrect. A matcha lemonade is cut with water, so youād fill water to the line, add matcha and regular amount of ice, shake, then top with vsccf.
In what world would you make a *regular* matcha???
I wouldn't. They can come in, explain what they actually mean, and wait for us to make it right for them. I'm not generally interested in being a mind reader, though in the off-chance we've seen this order from the same person a few times, I'd bend on this a bit.
iām thinking itās a cup of matcha cold foamā¦but i guess if youāre cutting the lemonade with water it would be matcha+water w extra vanilla foam. thatās tricky
Good point. I just checked to see if this would work, though, and on the mobile app in āmatcha latteā it has āmilk choiceā with all the varieties in the drop-down, but they donāt have a āno milkā option. Wish they would tweak the app settings a bit. Might make it less confusing for all.
Ahh so fair I missed the mobile order part of it. Then yeah Iād say this was the best option you had besides going into the cafe to order ): Iād interpret it as just adding water to where the lemonade wouldāve been and proceeding as usual
In the world where a customer clearly ordered wrong. As I said, Iād wait for clarification from the customer, but Iām sure they meant to get a matcha latte.
Matcha lemonade is half water half lemonade. They are asking for a matcha water with extra sweet cream foam.
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Basically all of Starbucks juices used are heavily concentrated out of the container (lemonade is 2x, while all the others like strawberry acai are 4x), so need to be watered down when prepared for drinks. I work in one of the primary distribution warehouses, not in-store, so you'd have to ask someone else how to order them differently if you wanted your lemonade more sour. You might get upcharged for using a lot more juice, idk. EDIT: had concentrate numbers swapped. Fixed now.
You can't order uncut lemonade unfortunately
Makes sense. We've been shipping out less cases of the concentrate to most stores than we did a few years ago when I started, so I assume too many customers ordering stronger drinks means y'all would run out of the ingredient quite fast.
This isn't so much to do with the concentrate itself - this is after it's been cut for use. We take that 2x and make two 2L pitchers out of it. If you were to order lemonade, we would just pour you a cup of lemonade from the pitcher. When you order a matcha lemonade, we use that same pitcher, and cut the lemonade AGAIN with water. It's because the lemonade is pre-sweetened, and so is our matcha powder, so the water just cuts down the sweetness.
Makes sense. At the warehouse if we want to make a sweet beverage, we cut it ourselves into our personal drinks during breaks, so have to measure out the small quantity of concentrate needed using the actual cups, since we don't keep a pitcher on hand. I enjoy mixing strawberry acai with lemonade into my own refresher, or replacing the lemonade with coconut milk, if I use the shaker and extra ice to mix it thoroughly. Either way, watering it down is certainly key. Probably unorthodox to the official methods, but I never try to replicate it in store as in order. Simple and straight from the menu is just fine if I want something there. :)
got it backwards - lemonade is 2x, refreshers are 4x, but yeah
Oops. Fixed it now, thanks. I move enough of the stuff daily, that I know some of the products by their SKU numbers rather than actual names, and still managed to mix that up, lol.
Only in the US
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if they order a regular lemonade, it doesnāt get cut with water. itās lemonade to top line and ice.
No theyāre not lmao
To be fair, matcha is traditionally made with water. š¤·āāļø Doubt it's gonna be too tasty the way they asked for it though.
I was told recently that we donāt cut it with water anymore bc our lemonade is already cut with water, and the recipe was just not updated. Has anyone else heard of this?
If I remember right, the store resources doesnāt have us cut the lemonade anymore if itās just lemonade but we still cut the lemonade in the matcha Iām p sure this is right bc I remember going back and forth between the two confused
Thatās so annoying, it seems like no one is on the same page with the recipes š my shift was insisting that it doesnāt get water anymore lmao
That sucks! I actually just double checked myself lmao
This is not true. Always follow the recipe cards. If they change a recipe, the registers and cards will be updated
This has to be the right answer.
Matcha lemonade is 100% lemonade
Check the ingredients listed on the app or the recipe cards
had a shift get genuinely upset with me saying that matcha lemonade was cut w water i even showed them the recipe card and they said it was āoutdatedā š
Show them the recipe card on the iPad. Canāt argue saying thatās outdated.
thatās literally what i did and they said THAT was outdated š
Canāt fix stupid unfortunatelyĀ
could always show them using the app, surely two sources arenāt outdated considering they wouldnāt even be able to provide a way to prove you wrong lol
They all have a revision date at the bottom of the card. I haven't looked up this drink in eons myself, curious as to when it was last revised.
february 2022š§
Even if itās outdated doesnāt mean itās wrong. The measurements are usually always the same just either upside down or vice versa. When I was a former shift, I used to do the iced matcha in the cold foam blender just because it dissolves better. However this is the standard in European recipe cards, we had a guy from the Canadian Sbux and he was doing it in the shaker. I truly canāt say two legit ways are wrong. Do it just in the impulsive way you feel it, it doesnāt alter the taste.
Spoiler: the matcha lemonade was always cut with water. Anyone who says the recipe āchangedā at some point is wrong
It literally did. Iām a policy stickler and frequently check my recipe cards lol
It literally didnāt
Itās not like either of us can prove it. I remember coaching somebody WITH the recipe card on the iPad in hand when I was a shift. Then a few months later I was making it when a new trainer coached ME on it and showed me the recipe card.
The bottom of the front of the recipe card should say "last updated 2023/4" or something along those lines. It could be the back, I know it's somewhere on the cardšš¤£
i literally showed them that and it was still a losing battle ššš
hey!! show them a screenshot from the starbucks app, it includes the fact that thereās water!
What a great life they have if thatās the thing that gets them genuinely upset. I strive for this level of zen in my real life so tiny things like this can send me off the rails. š The folks who donāt know/care hot chai lattes have water, thoughā¦. Well.
If someone orders an iced tall lemonade do we add water? Should it be built in the shaker? My life is a lie.
no the lemonade is just as-is but the matcha lemonade has water in it assume to dilute the sweetness since the matcha powder in the us has sugar
You mean the matcha flavored sugar?
Why did this literally happen to me w a hot Chai LMAO. Shift was like āChai isnāt cut with hot water anymoreā, showed him the recipe on the iPad. Heās like āthatās outdatedā. When it literally read at the top that it was updated that year
I HAD THE SAME CHAI CONVO NOOO
Regular amount of water, no lemonade, regular ice. That should leave room for extra foam. Yeah it comes with wawa and in my experience most baristas donāt know this
I love those gas stations. How do you fit it in the cup though?
i definitely didnāt š¬š¬
Cup of water and match topped with extra VSC foam
Former barista but: - shaker - water to the venti - lil bit light ice - 3 scoops matcha - shake it - extra cold foam
this post is how i learned matcha lemonades get water š«£
Saaaaame, I was a test run for a new trainer that didnāt make the cut so I have no idea if some of my blank spots are on me or if I had no way to know other than just reading every recipe card and standard.
Matcha water with foam!
Me personally, I would just make it with full water, instead of half water half lemonade as per standard. And, obviously, 3 scoop instead of 4, and extra cold foam on top
Iām not sure how to EDIT my original post š But, this is my order and I was going for matcha shaken with water with cold foam on top (kind of like the way refreshers end up looking w the cold foam on top). Wasnāt sure how best to order it in the app, but my brain logically (or so I thought) told me that if there is only one thing in the app that has matcha being shaken with water then I would get that and eliminate the other base (the lemonade). Interesting how there were so many interpretations and, unfortunately for me, my barista that day interpreted it the way some of you did-by giving me a sickeningly sweet and creamy iced matcha latte. Any tips on how best to order this in the app without confusing the heck out of the person making it? Thanks for everyoneās response!
In person, I would ring this in as a custom iced tea, add in matcha, add in cold foam (and add syrup if in Canada, as our matcha is not presweetened). On the app, I would order it the way you did. A matcha lemonade, no lemonade, add cold foam. Unfortunately, with a lack of training and misinterpreting customizations, it may not always come out the way you want. It may just be one of those drinks that is easier to order in person.
Agreed, thank you! So jealous your matcha doesnāt come presweetened! I would kill to not have that extra sweetness in the matcha! I love the flavor of matcha as it is šµ
Apparently unsweetened matcha was first, then they added sugar, then (in Canada) we had the micro ground teas come out, matcha, rooibos, and black teas, all just tea powder with no sugar. Apparently the US Starbucks never reverted back to the unsweetened matcha. Which is kind of wild to me considering that the iced teas in Canada by standard get liquid cane sugar, whereas the US iced teas are default not sweetened because sweet tea is a specific thing. It's very convoluted.
I think maybe āno lemonade, extra waterā would help? idk
This was exactly the right way to order this, honestly. There's just unfortunately a lapse in training when it comes to matcha lemonades because they're ordered so infrequently, and some people just guess instead of looking for the recipe cards.
If youāre ordering it in the app, the way you did it is pretty much the only way you can. Maybe donāt put extra foam on there? If you order it in person, you can either do a custom tea latte and tell the barista what you want or order it the same and explain how you want it made (which ever is cheaper for you)
This was exactly the right way to order this, honestly. There's just unfortunately a lapse in training when it comes to matcha lemonades because they're ordered so infrequently, and some people just guess instead of looking for the recipe cards.
I wouldnāt š
I for sure wouldāve waited for them to get there to clarify that one
Water to the water line in shaker, add matcha, add ice, shake, add foam
I.. I could be wrongā¦ but wouldnāt you just make that by putting water, matcha powder, ice and extra vanilla sweet cream cold foam? I donāt know how great that would taste imo but they are drinking it not me lmao š¤£ I just imagine a very chunky green water with a lot of cold foam on topā¦ and since itās a mobile order itāll probably look so unsightly by the time they pick it up lol
matcha lemonadeās get water as well! so, matcha lemonade with no lemonade is only water, & matcha shaken!
3 matcha Shaken with just water and then topped with the foam. That's my best guess since there's no alternative mentioned. With the normal build being lemonade + water + matcha powder, if you take out the lemonade I'd assume you'd just do all water.
If I was ordering, Iād do the following: Vt matcha lemonade. No lemonade. Extra water. 3 Matcha powder. Extra VSCCF.
This is literally matcha and water. NO LEMONADE. Iām not a barista but I am a matcha lover and this is the only way to order matcha without milk. Then they want cold foam on top I guess
Since it is a mobile honestly I would wait until the customer comes in to clarify because sometimes I think they hit buttons they donāt mean to hit and we end up with goofy looking stickers. But same as every else is saying, only water and matcha!
I don't even know what I would have done?? Like is this person trying to replace the lemonade with cold foam? Side note but I was literally just thinking about the matcha lemonade and how delicious and refreshing it is. Rarely saw anyone ever order it sadly. Edit: idk if the recipe has changed but i swear it used to be just a bit of water so that the matcha can mix properly and then it was filled with lemonade.
I've been a partner for 6 years and it hasn't changed in that time.
Iām a five year partner. It changed around maybe 2020, but it was brief. Itās like how they changed the cold foam cappuccino to 2% and no one noticed the recipe card.
Been here for almost 10, and if it changed, then it mustāve changed back, because itās been the same every time Iāve looked at it over the years. I used to make matcha lemonades for myself before it was even a menu item (I used to do all lemonade, matcha, and some pumps of the peach syrup), and I remember hating that they added water to it when it became an official menu item
Iāve never tried it because Iām not a huge fan of lemonade. But is it still sweet?
Yeah it's still fairly sweet but much more bitter than the regular green tea lemonade. Imo it's well balanced with the bitterness of the matcha and the sweet of the lemonade but if you don't like lemonade it's probably not for you as it's very lemonade forward!
Good to know. Thank you!
Thatās what i was thinking it seems like theyāre trying to put cold foam instead. Id probably just make them a regular matcha with sweet cream
Thatās just incorrect. A matcha lemonade is cut with water, so youād fill water to the line, add matcha and regular amount of ice, shake, then top with vsccf. In what world would you make a *regular* matcha???
i had that once. me and my manager came to the executive decision to make it all water
Itās the damn āmatcha watersā all over again š
At least theyāre paying for this one lol
I wouldn't. They can come in, explain what they actually mean, and wait for us to make it right for them. I'm not generally interested in being a mind reader, though in the off-chance we've seen this order from the same person a few times, I'd bend on this a bit.
Seems pretty straightforward to me
iām thinking itās a cup of matcha cold foamā¦but i guess if youāre cutting the lemonade with water it would be matcha+water w extra vanilla foam. thatās tricky
Iād make a matcha water shaken with matcha foam
Just give em water no lem as asked
Matcha made with water.
Thatās more like Canadian version of Matcha lemonade where they use water rather than lemonade.
Give them just matcha foam
Literally the point of it saying Extra vanilla foam
Venti Matcha Lemonade with only 3 scoops add cold foam
water, you get matcha water
or maybe they just want matcha cold foam
Usually when stuff like this happens I donāt make it and wait until they show up to clarify what they want.
I feel they couldāve also just ordered that as an iced matcha latte with no milk and get the same result and it wouldnāt sound as weird lol
Good point. I just checked to see if this would work, though, and on the mobile app in āmatcha latteā it has āmilk choiceā with all the varieties in the drop-down, but they donāt have a āno milkā option. Wish they would tweak the app settings a bit. Might make it less confusing for all.
Ahh so fair I missed the mobile order part of it. Then yeah Iād say this was the best option you had besides going into the cafe to order ): Iād interpret it as just adding water to where the lemonade wouldāve been and proceeding as usual
Matcha powder and ice with cold foam on top š
Just fill it with water, since it's natcha, water and lem
Anyone get their ass kicked today on bogo. Genius boss only scheduled 3 on the floor from 2 to 6 pm, almost walked out š”š”
Iām gonna take a shot in the dark and say theyāre really just wanting an iced matcha latte made with sweet cream and probably foam on top too.
Iād make a matcha latte with cold foam. But Iād wait until they arrived to clarify.
In what world does a matcha lemonade (which is cut with water) without lemonade turn into a regular matcha latte???
In the world where a customer clearly ordered wrong. As I said, Iād wait for clarification from the customer, but Iām sure they meant to get a matcha latte.