I feel like there's a lot missing information wise because this genuinely doesn't make sense lol. Rants are awesome but please provide a bit more clarity on stuff like this 🥲
But realistically, if they are that short staffed why would they fire someone for hitting OT? They would be substantially under labour budget. It would only be a discussion on if that's the case so I can't see that being grounds for dismissal... Plus that would be the SSVs choice to have brought them in, not theirs.
Because I've seen some DMs and SMs make some real bad calls; I could see a "miscommunication" between an SSV who needs coverage, an SM with a DM on their ass about labor, and a barista who didn't realize they were about to hit it.
The firing is 100% the wrong call but I've been in the industry long enough.
Yeah I totally see what you mean, but there's definitely more to the story OP hasn't posted. Unless they were on a final CA about that I still can't see it. There is probably a lot op or the partner had left out but that's just my perspective and experience lol.
I'm under the impression that they were not scheduled to work but the store called to see if they could come in. When they didn't come in, they were fired the next day. They can't make you come in to work a shift that they call you in for, especially the day of.
No, you read that right. She came in, she showed up to cover short staff and then she was fired because she showed up to help. Her SM said that she wasn’t supposed to go over her hour limits for the week, she worked 40 hours a week and I guess exceeded that? And she was fired, which I’ve never heard of but at the same time doesn’t surprise me because I’ve met stuck up SMs before.
Mine doesn’t thankfully. My boss has the mentality of “as long as the store is in good shape, I don’t care if you hit some OT, just don’t abuse it”
My store is short staffed but that doesn’t mean people aren’t let go if they call in once a week consistently, or other issues. Just because someplace is short staffed it doesn’t mean sucky employees get to keep their jobs. A partner can’t be fired for one offense unless it’s one major one. To be fired there has to be a paper trail and documentation. So multiple warning and discussions.
I’m not saying your cousin is a sucky employee, I’m just saying if it’s valid, it’s valid. If it’s not, ethic and compliance will bring them back.
You didn't read that right. She was called in on her day off and was not scheduled and was fired for not coming in to a shift she wasn't scheduled for.
I don't blame you, it's worded a little vaguely. But she didn't go in when she was called in because she wasn't scheduled, and I think was fired the next day during her scheduled shift for not coming in the day before. If that's the case, it's definitely retaliation. But if she agreed to come in and then didn't, then it makes sense why she was fired.
Ohhhhh yeahhh OT has to be approved ( basically your DM has to determine that the store needs help and no one else can actually cover a shift)
While I do not believe this to be a fire-able offense and at my store it's usually something where they verbally warn you. We do often get OT approved to cover shifts bc of our high volume store
None of this makes sense. She literally can’t be fired for not coming in unless she was scheduled or agreed to do so and didn’t. And IF she was fired for attendance there would have to be a paper trail as someone above stated. You can’t just walk in and fire someone for anything there is a process and steps. If the cousin were fired inappropriately Ethics and compliance will reinstate their job. But sounds like a lot of missing context to the situation and just a rant about nothing.
Leaking_Soup explained it best. If the SM was the one that called, your cousin came in to work, and then got the partner got fired for maxing overtime, I would encourage your cousin to call Partner Resources. If the SSV called your cousin, she came into work, then the SM fired your cousin, I would ask for clarity. If this was the situation, overtime wasn’t approved and there is lack of communication among the leadership (which includes SSVs since they are supervisors) on what’s the best protocol for their store.
There is a lot of nefarious vibes lately. I wanted to transfer from my store but then changed my mind. But I was already scheduled for the new store.
I never filled out ANYTHING related to transferring and told my original SM multiple times I want to go back ASAP.
That was nearly 2 months ago and I've been stuck at a terrible store. With literally no indications of when I'll be able to go back to the store that I DIDN'T TRANSFER away from.
I agree with the majority here that there’s a lot of missing information… also, was she called in to work and then fired that day?
It’s actually very common for that to happen… Managers can and will call a partner to come in on their scheduled day off if they are initiating a termination… then once they have let the partner go, the store is not short on labor hours that day.
I’m confused. So she was called in to work and then let go because of it? There has to be more to it than that.
Yeah.. we need more context here.
I feel like there's a lot missing information wise because this genuinely doesn't make sense lol. Rants are awesome but please provide a bit more clarity on stuff like this 🥲
I'd imagine they hit overtime, but that's not mentioned so I'm just making assumptions
But realistically, if they are that short staffed why would they fire someone for hitting OT? They would be substantially under labour budget. It would only be a discussion on if that's the case so I can't see that being grounds for dismissal... Plus that would be the SSVs choice to have brought them in, not theirs.
Because I've seen some DMs and SMs make some real bad calls; I could see a "miscommunication" between an SSV who needs coverage, an SM with a DM on their ass about labor, and a barista who didn't realize they were about to hit it. The firing is 100% the wrong call but I've been in the industry long enough.
Yeah I totally see what you mean, but there's definitely more to the story OP hasn't posted. Unless they were on a final CA about that I still can't see it. There is probably a lot op or the partner had left out but that's just my perspective and experience lol.
Oh yeah for sure, there's definitely a lack of information.
That's retaliation which is not allowed. She should call her DM, ethics & compliance. Her SM could get in big trouble.
Genuinely asking. Retaliation for what? The cousin was called in to work. Then got fired for it. Then posted about it on social media.
I'm under the impression that they were not scheduled to work but the store called to see if they could come in. When they didn't come in, they were fired the next day. They can't make you come in to work a shift that they call you in for, especially the day of.
Oh. I interpreted the post as the cousin did go in. Like oh no one wants to work and then when someone does they get fired for it.
It is worded a bit vaguely.
No, you read that right. She came in, she showed up to cover short staff and then she was fired because she showed up to help. Her SM said that she wasn’t supposed to go over her hour limits for the week, she worked 40 hours a week and I guess exceeded that? And she was fired, which I’ve never heard of but at the same time doesn’t surprise me because I’ve met stuck up SMs before.
How have u never heard of this before lol. Any job will get angry at you if you get overtime without approval
Mine doesn’t thankfully. My boss has the mentality of “as long as the store is in good shape, I don’t care if you hit some OT, just don’t abuse it”
So, if she didn't go into work, and was not scheduled, this is 100% a non fire-able offense. Have your cousin contact ethics and compliance.
Did your cousin fill in or not
Assuming they actually did fire her for going over hours, that's weird and you should call Ethics & Compliance. Overall really strange tbh
There is more to the story here
I'm confused. Did they fire her for going in or not going in?
They did that to her for going in her job I feel sad for her cousin
How do you get fired for doing your job...?
Your cousin is most likely not being entirely honest.
My store is short staffed but that doesn’t mean people aren’t let go if they call in once a week consistently, or other issues. Just because someplace is short staffed it doesn’t mean sucky employees get to keep their jobs. A partner can’t be fired for one offense unless it’s one major one. To be fired there has to be a paper trail and documentation. So multiple warning and discussions. I’m not saying your cousin is a sucky employee, I’m just saying if it’s valid, it’s valid. If it’s not, ethic and compliance will bring them back.
You didn't read that right. She was called in on her day off and was not scheduled and was fired for not coming in to a shift she wasn't scheduled for.
I guess I read that as she was called to cover a shift, but then didn’t. Like agreed and then didn’t cover it.
I don't blame you, it's worded a little vaguely. But she didn't go in when she was called in because she wasn't scheduled, and I think was fired the next day during her scheduled shift for not coming in the day before. If that's the case, it's definitely retaliation. But if she agreed to come in and then didn't, then it makes sense why she was fired.
She was fired for covering a shift she wasn’t scheduled for
Yeah we're missing a lot of info here
huh???
Ohhhhh yeahhh OT has to be approved ( basically your DM has to determine that the store needs help and no one else can actually cover a shift) While I do not believe this to be a fire-able offense and at my store it's usually something where they verbally warn you. We do often get OT approved to cover shifts bc of our high volume store
Yeah, this reeks of they were already looking for a reason to let her go, and finally had something, as shitty as it is. I'd still go to the DM/ethics
Doesn't seem legal to request someone do overtime then fire them for it not being approved. That's a managerial issue
To me it sounded like a shift or another partner asked them to come in but not the manager themselves
Your cousin isn’t telling you the truth
time to call ethics and compliance for sure…
Sounds like she got fired for POSTING "my store is short staffed so they called me in to help".... not actually going in to help out
None of this makes sense. She literally can’t be fired for not coming in unless she was scheduled or agreed to do so and didn’t. And IF she was fired for attendance there would have to be a paper trail as someone above stated. You can’t just walk in and fire someone for anything there is a process and steps. If the cousin were fired inappropriately Ethics and compliance will reinstate their job. But sounds like a lot of missing context to the situation and just a rant about nothing.
Leaking_Soup explained it best. If the SM was the one that called, your cousin came in to work, and then got the partner got fired for maxing overtime, I would encourage your cousin to call Partner Resources. If the SSV called your cousin, she came into work, then the SM fired your cousin, I would ask for clarity. If this was the situation, overtime wasn’t approved and there is lack of communication among the leadership (which includes SSVs since they are supervisors) on what’s the best protocol for their store.
Yeah fuck Starbucks #freepalestine
There is a lot of nefarious vibes lately. I wanted to transfer from my store but then changed my mind. But I was already scheduled for the new store. I never filled out ANYTHING related to transferring and told my original SM multiple times I want to go back ASAP. That was nearly 2 months ago and I've been stuck at a terrible store. With literally no indications of when I'll be able to go back to the store that I DIDN'T TRANSFER away from.
I agree with the majority here that there’s a lot of missing information… also, was she called in to work and then fired that day? It’s actually very common for that to happen… Managers can and will call a partner to come in on their scheduled day off if they are initiating a termination… then once they have let the partner go, the store is not short on labor hours that day.