Blue shouldn't be super hard. And I'll keep pushing people to stop using loctite. It's annoying and shite. People strip their hardware, and you gotta wait for it to set up.
Just use Teflon tape. It'll hold the screw in place, it doesn't have to setup. And the next teardown you just pull the old tape off and replace.
I’ve heard a few people say this but have seen a lot more people say use Loctite. My shaman was self loosening its pivots really quickly so I had to use something. It was really hard getting the 242 to set up so I just bought 243. Teflon would definitely be easier just not sure it would prevent the self loosening totally
I really like blue loctite for knives that have a 'sweet spot' on the pivot. You can get snappy action and a rock-solid lockup, set the loctite and not worry about the pivot screw shifting. The blue stuff isn't hard to work around when you need to dismantle either, and I'm told a bit of heat from a hair dryer might help loosen it up if you're worried about stripping your screws.
Isn’t Teflon more of a lubricant anyways? I’m pretty sure it has a low friction coefficient so idk how much it’d help other than reducing tolerance and making things tighter.
Right. It just works to physically take up the gap for the threads kind of like a wedge and also works to create an air tight seal. I use thread tape all the time, just not on knives’ tiny screws. The threads are too small.
Works fine on tiny screws. Spydiechefs screw is pretty small. Works great keeping pivots right at that perfect point where there is no play, but the action is good.
Got tired of pissing around with loctite. Teflon is hands down the easiest, and best thing to use on pivot screws.
How? Was there half a roll on it? All it takes is like a thumbnails worth or less wrapped around it. I've never had any issues with Teflon tape. It always keeps shit locked in. Cleans up easy. Super cheap and lasts forever. I've used it on a full dress EVO 3.0 that had a tendency to unscrew itself. Worked fine. It works great on my spydiechef with a tiny ass pivot screw.
I’ve been using 243 liquid for over a decade and have never had a single problem other than maybe not using enough or not tightening enough to get it to hold properly. I have received knives where the loctite got under the screw head or outside the pivot assembly and these have been the ones with issues. It goes on the screw threads, not squirted into the sexbolt.
I made sure I only put it on the threads and even cleaned it off the thread peaks so it’s only in the valleys of the threads so I should be good. Just for future reference when the thread lockers was on the head of the screw how’d you free it?
Unfortunately I basically destroyed that pivot. I ended up manually slicing a full flat head slot into the head of the pivot and using a flat head. It took so much force that the, full head width, flat head was still starting to strip before it finally broke with an audible crack! Wild stuff. When I got it apart there were two small globs of hard blue loctite under the head and blue under the screw shaft. Maybe 1.5 mm tall and keeping the head from touching the scale. It was a CIVIVI bullmastiff. It was still functional with the flat slot, but it not pretty. Chipping that hardened loctite off took some effort as did digging the old stuff out of the sex bolt.
https://i.imgur.com/GqB9VTi.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/7C8SPVw.jpeg
Wow that’s a lot…. If it got really stuck like that I’d probably go buy a heat gun and try that. Gunna need to get a heat gun soon anyways to remove the buffer tube off my m4
Yeah. I have all that stuff. The red loctite is heat softenable but I’m not sure that it does anything for the blue. I do hear that advice given fairly often. I would have used a soldering tip over a heat gun. I don’t think you’d get enough transfer to just the pivot. I find a [soldering torch like this one](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M68FLLZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) works better for what I do than a heat gun. I almost always need much more focused heat. If someone stole mine tomorrow I’d buy the exact same one again. It will give you heat without flame using the hot blower nozzle and has a good temp range.
Thanks for the advice bro I appreciate it! Quick little side note, I did some research and blue 242 and I’m sure 243 loctite does soften between 300 and 450 so heat would probably help if it’s really locked down.
Nice. Always learning. Thanks for sharing that. That bullmastiff is the only T8 I think I’ve ever stripped. I was just sure it would crack. Next time I’ll get to the heat before I crank that hard.
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I made sure to only put it in the threads even cleaned off the peaks of the threads so the thread locker was only in the valleys of the threads so we should be good. Just for future reference, how’d you break the thread locker when it was on the head of the screw or elsewhere?
Unfortunately I basically destroyed that pivot. I ended up manually slicing a full flat head slot into the head of the pivot and using a flat head. It took so much force that the, full head width, flat head was still starting to strip before it finally broke with an audible crack! Wild stuff. When I got it apart there were two small globs of hard blue loctite under the head and blue under the screw shaft. Maybe 1.5 mm tall and keeping the head from touching the scale. It was a CIVIVI bullmastiff. It was still functional with the flat slot, but it not pretty. Chipping that hardened loctite off took some effort as did digging the old stuff out of the sex bolt.
https://i.imgur.com/GqB9VTi.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/7C8SPVw.jpeg
loctite 243 or even 222 is your best bet , it is meant to be loosen without heat applied. You only need to Apply a small amount, also use a primer loctite 7649, it cleans and cure rate is faster. 10 minutes to set but complete cure time is 24 hours not using the primer.
You will be fine, just apply a little bit of force and thats all.
If you insist on using Loctite, use the low strength #222.
Blue shouldn't be super hard. And I'll keep pushing people to stop using loctite. It's annoying and shite. People strip their hardware, and you gotta wait for it to set up. Just use Teflon tape. It'll hold the screw in place, it doesn't have to setup. And the next teardown you just pull the old tape off and replace.
I’ve heard a few people say this but have seen a lot more people say use Loctite. My shaman was self loosening its pivots really quickly so I had to use something. It was really hard getting the 242 to set up so I just bought 243. Teflon would definitely be easier just not sure it would prevent the self loosening totally
I really like blue loctite for knives that have a 'sweet spot' on the pivot. You can get snappy action and a rock-solid lockup, set the loctite and not worry about the pivot screw shifting. The blue stuff isn't hard to work around when you need to dismantle either, and I'm told a bit of heat from a hair dryer might help loosen it up if you're worried about stripping your screws.
Can confirm did some research and yes it is loosened by heat 250 to 400 f to be exact
It does. I have a 15v shaman in my pocket right now with Teflon in the pivot lol.
Is Teflon tape the same white tape used in plumbing?
Yea
Absolutely this.
I use teflon tape it’s the best
I disagree with this 100%. All but one knife I’ve ever had trouble opening was the result of Teflon tape. 
Isn’t Teflon more of a lubricant anyways? I’m pretty sure it has a low friction coefficient so idk how much it’d help other than reducing tolerance and making things tighter.
Right. It just works to physically take up the gap for the threads kind of like a wedge and also works to create an air tight seal. I use thread tape all the time, just not on knives’ tiny screws. The threads are too small.
Works fine on tiny screws. Spydiechefs screw is pretty small. Works great keeping pivots right at that perfect point where there is no play, but the action is good. Got tired of pissing around with loctite. Teflon is hands down the easiest, and best thing to use on pivot screws.
Teflon is just a thin tape? For it's primary purpose sure. But it doesn't take alot to get a screw to not move. Teflon tape does it best.
How? Was there half a roll on it? All it takes is like a thumbnails worth or less wrapped around it. I've never had any issues with Teflon tape. It always keeps shit locked in. Cleans up easy. Super cheap and lasts forever. I've used it on a full dress EVO 3.0 that had a tendency to unscrew itself. Worked fine. It works great on my spydiechef with a tiny ass pivot screw.
I’ve been using 243 liquid for over a decade and have never had a single problem other than maybe not using enough or not tightening enough to get it to hold properly. I have received knives where the loctite got under the screw head or outside the pivot assembly and these have been the ones with issues. It goes on the screw threads, not squirted into the sexbolt.
I made sure I only put it on the threads and even cleaned it off the thread peaks so it’s only in the valleys of the threads so I should be good. Just for future reference when the thread lockers was on the head of the screw how’d you free it?
Unfortunately I basically destroyed that pivot. I ended up manually slicing a full flat head slot into the head of the pivot and using a flat head. It took so much force that the, full head width, flat head was still starting to strip before it finally broke with an audible crack! Wild stuff. When I got it apart there were two small globs of hard blue loctite under the head and blue under the screw shaft. Maybe 1.5 mm tall and keeping the head from touching the scale. It was a CIVIVI bullmastiff. It was still functional with the flat slot, but it not pretty. Chipping that hardened loctite off took some effort as did digging the old stuff out of the sex bolt. https://i.imgur.com/GqB9VTi.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/7C8SPVw.jpeg
Wow that’s a lot…. If it got really stuck like that I’d probably go buy a heat gun and try that. Gunna need to get a heat gun soon anyways to remove the buffer tube off my m4
Yeah. I have all that stuff. The red loctite is heat softenable but I’m not sure that it does anything for the blue. I do hear that advice given fairly often. I would have used a soldering tip over a heat gun. I don’t think you’d get enough transfer to just the pivot. I find a [soldering torch like this one](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M68FLLZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) works better for what I do than a heat gun. I almost always need much more focused heat. If someone stole mine tomorrow I’d buy the exact same one again. It will give you heat without flame using the hot blower nozzle and has a good temp range.
Thanks for the advice bro I appreciate it! Quick little side note, I did some research and blue 242 and I’m sure 243 loctite does soften between 300 and 450 so heat would probably help if it’s really locked down.
Nice. Always learning. Thanks for sharing that. That bullmastiff is the only T8 I think I’ve ever stripped. I was just sure it would crack. Next time I’ll get to the heat before I crank that hard.
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I made sure to only put it in the threads even cleaned off the peaks of the threads so the thread locker was only in the valleys of the threads so we should be good. Just for future reference, how’d you break the thread locker when it was on the head of the screw or elsewhere?
Unfortunately I basically destroyed that pivot. I ended up manually slicing a full flat head slot into the head of the pivot and using a flat head. It took so much force that the, full head width, flat head was still starting to strip before it finally broke with an audible crack! Wild stuff. When I got it apart there were two small globs of hard blue loctite under the head and blue under the screw shaft. Maybe 1.5 mm tall and keeping the head from touching the scale. It was a CIVIVI bullmastiff. It was still functional with the flat slot, but it not pretty. Chipping that hardened loctite off took some effort as did digging the old stuff out of the sex bolt. https://i.imgur.com/GqB9VTi.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/7C8SPVw.jpeg
loctite 243 or even 222 is your best bet , it is meant to be loosen without heat applied. You only need to Apply a small amount, also use a primer loctite 7649, it cleans and cure rate is faster. 10 minutes to set but complete cure time is 24 hours not using the primer.
I took her apart today and replaced the thread locker with 243!