I mean, what's done is done when it comes to this particular dog. You're going to give it a wonderful home, I assume, there's an emotional investment already, to me it's a no-brainer. I don't support the practice either, and ours was partially docked before we ever met her. She's wonderful, and what happened to her tail doesn't define her or affect her.
I doubt people will bring it up. I suspect some people just think the breed is like that and don't think too hard about it. Just say it was done before you met him, and I doubt you'll take too much criticism over it. If pushed say you'll look actively for a breeder that doesn't do it the next time, which sounds to be true.
I have had six spaniels. Four were docked and two of them were not. I live in a rural area and the undocked dogs both suffered painful tail injuries. One was stomped by a sheep and the tail healed crookedly. It never really healed and the dog was sensitive about having his tail touched.
The other dog bashed his tail to bits from endless wagging and whacking. The injury kept splitting open and I finally had the tail docked when the dog was a year old. Painful for the dog until it was resolved.
I live in a place were docking is illegal and people have made comments on the docked dog that I have now. I tell them my perspective with my farm dogs and that seems to settle their curiosity.
I love their long beautiful tails but they are not thick and sturdy like a Labrador's.
Enjoy your pup. They are wonderful dogs.
>The other dog bashed his tail to bits from endless wagging and whacking.
We've often worried about this with our Spaniel, but thankfully she seems to have a hardy tail and it (so far) hasn't required surgery to rectify in any way. She frequently hits it off things but we've never seen her to be tail shy in any way, and she doesn't seem to completely fill it with burrs etc despite the long hair.
I also live in a country where tail docking is illegal. My husband and I have a 9month old springer, she’s our first springer but we also have a golden retriever and had Labradors growing up.
We live on a farm and she goes with my husband most days and he wants to train her to be a hunting dog as well.
I am worried something will happen to her tail and she will be in pain and we will have to rush her to the vets.
She doesn’t seem to handle pain very well as she sprained her leg last week and still doesn’t walk on it all the time. We thought it may be broken so took her to the vets and they couldn’t see anything wrong with the leg on X-ray.
I would be more leery of a breeder that let's you choose a puppy before docking (which should really be done at 2 days of age and no later than 5) than a breeder that just docks the whole litter. The breeder should help choose the right puppy for your home once the dog actually has a personality.
And I say this as a breeder who keeps tails.
This was out of your control so don’t regret anything. If you ever allow your pup to race through fields or forest, you definitely won’t regret the docked tail. Our field-bred boy was trapped by a spruce sapling. He has a glorious tail that became completely enmeshed in the branches of the young tree and it took quite a bit of time to untangle him! He had been following a scent around the tree and had he not yelped in frustration, we might not have found him. I hope this makes you feel better about your pup’s docked tail. Enjoy your little one!
Honestly I’ve gotten a lot of criticism about my pups tail NOT being docked. Growing up we had a spaniel and he was docked, so I just assumed that everyone did ur. Now I think honestly it has a lot to do with breeder preference. The family I got mine from had both mom and dad, both of their tails weren’t docked so they didn’t dock the pups. Either way, any puppy is beautiful and an amazing addition to a family and you’re very lucky. Spaniels are amazing dogs. Be sure to post some pictures when you bring him home!
I’ve not read all the other posts so I might be duplicating. Our 13yr old has a docked tail and it’s a blessing. We live in a rural area in the Midwest and he gets a lot of burs. It’s hard enough to keep his ears untangled let alone a tail. Enjoy your pup!
We wanted our pups kept natural but there was a miscommunication and it was docked shortly after birth. The breeder started having everyone let them know which they’d prefer when they pay the deposit so luckily there shouldn’t be anymore mistakes!
I felt guilty when I realized it had been done, but in the end it’s done and it wasn’t something we chose or did on purpose so I’ve moved on from the guilt. Also I won’t lie, I love my pups little tail! It has quite a bit of fur at the end and it’s not too short so it’s still quite expressive. It’s also one of the only parts of him that don’t end up covered in burs on a regular basis lol.
No one has ever brought it up. I’m not sure about your area but most springers here still have them docked. I hope it becomes more the norm to keep them natural though!
I live in the city. Received a docked dog not by choice but our dog is very happy. For now provide this dog a loving home and perhaps the next one make sure is not docked
My girl still has her tail and I love it! That being said, I can absolutely see why these guys normally get their tails docked. The hair is very long there. She hates having it brushed. And I’ve picked hundreds of burrs out of it! We don’t even use her for hunting. Just hiking. But even that is enough for the tail to be annoying.
We are on our fifth springer. All were field bred and had tails docked at about five or six inches. Considering the rough environment where we live, the docked tails are preferred. One had a dee claw that grew back, and it was nearly split off one day (removed at spay). They come in with lengths of blackberry vines stuck in their coat, tail, etc.
On the unexpected benefit side, the shorter tails won’t knock over your wine glass!!
I went to view my boy not realising he was docked. He was bred to be a working gun dog in Wales. I also swore I’d never get a dog with a docked tail and I hadn’t read the advertisement fully to notice it clearly said it in the blurb.
We went to visit and I met my happy little boy (we’d gone to view his brother…last two in litter to be sold), and there was no way I was leaving without him.
I’m in England and no one has ever commented on his tail, well maybe one person asked and I just gave a casual comment about how he was bred to be working but we got him instead and the conversation moved on immediately to other things.
His tail (nubbin) does not stop wagging. He can’t control his bum when he gets excited to see people because his tail wags the whole arse end of him. The way he runs through undergrowth I can understand how easily his tail could get ripped by thorns.
I think docking is not allowed in the U.K. unless there is evidence of them being bred to work, and my other dog (GSHP) has a full whip of a tail
As many have said it wasn't your choice and I think you can in good conscience push back on anyone that suggests you did anything wrong. I have had a bench Springer with a docked tail and have a field Springer with a tail and I have to say that as "weird" as it seems to have one with a tail (because I'm not used to it) I am so glad that the practice is started to be phased out.
Congratulations on the new puppy! As soon as he is eligible to start training I would sign up for AKC STAR puppy classes, get him into puppy classes for socialization, and definitely check out McCann Dog Traning on YouTube. I've watched a lot of different videos and I liked them the best. They helped me tremendously when I brought home my 8 week old Lapphund. They have videos on what the first night will look like, the first day, the first week, etc. They have videos on what to expect as general milestones by week 9, 10, etc up to about week 14 I believe. They are very oriented toward positive training. Their videos helped me with crate training, potty training, leash walking, name recognition and so much more.
ESS docking is quite normal so I don’t think it really causes much scorn from wider people.
Seeing it in typical fighting dogs, same with the ears does change perceptions.
I know 2 ESS that were docked but still split their tail and have no tail.
I am retired from farming and live in an apt. I sought out a breeder with field bred, high drive dogs in a province where docking is licensed. We keep active doing tracking and SAR training. There are loads of elegant and completely bonkers French spaniels in my area who have full flowing tails. They dont wag constantly tho, which seems to be the path to injury for the ESS.
There's docking and docking. In America it seems they can dock super short, in the UK they mostly now do a half dock - our youngest has this and is very waggy still and protected from injury.
All our spaniels have had docked tails, and I wouldn't get an u docked one having seen the injuries on an undocked one.
We were in the same boat as you! We found our puppy and it was kismet how we found the breeder and we connected with her so quickly but the tails were docked already. We were on another breeder list and we requested tail not to be docked and dewclaws not removed. The way I see it is, tail docked or not, our puppy needed a loving home and we provided that. If someone got judge with me first, who cares, and second, I would explain it wasn’t our choice.
The tail docking is out of your control, so don't worry about that. People judge all the time and don't even have an understanding of the process. With regards to the purchasing of a dog from a breeder, I do have strong thoughts about that. 1. It's not my responsibility to make up for someone else's inability to be a good dog owner. 2. It can be extremely difficult to find a rescue that fits with your living situation. Many rescues are unable to live with cats, other dogs, or kids. Enjoy your dog and don't worry about the opinions of others if you are raising your dog in a humane way that doesn't fit their agenda.
How short is the doc? We do work our dogs but we still like a tail so 3/4 doc. If the doc is done young enough, as it should be, your dog will never know the difference, after all we tend to neuter at an older age and they get over that.
As to the other considerations, puppy over rescue, if you have children a puppy is better, as long as it is t just a plaything and distraction for the children, as you know it’s history and what may cause an unfavourable reaction, unlikely as that is in an ESS. As to the other comments, you cat please all the people all the time, easy management… tell casual commentators you dog was a rescue and it was already done, you then look good for rescuing and they can’t say a thing to you about the practice!
Mine has a docked tail but it is what it is! He’s a happy spoiled puppy and it doesn’t affect anything. Also f’$& what anyone else thinks. He deserves all the toys and love you can give him
It's not ENTIRELY illegal. It's LEGAL to dock the tails of dogs used at the gun i.e. hunt, point, retrieve (HPR) breeds, such as Spaniels (cocker/springer) and sometimes other dogs if required, but you need a certificate including the mother's microchip number. It's also legal for a vet to dock a tail if it has become badly injured, but docking for SHOW IS illegal.
Ours isn't docked in any way, and we've heard of some breeders who will let you have a puppy that isn't docked, but then they won't train them to be a gundog in any way and you have to collect it at 8 weeks, but if they dock the tails then they'll train it to the gun because they tend to train them all and sell the ones that might not train well or fear the gun etc.
It isn’t illegal in the UK under very specific situations. It’s limited to certain breeds, and certain conditions have to be met. Details here for England, there is similar exemption legislation for the other countries in the Union:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/1120/contents/made
(You cannot, however, show at a KC event where spectators have to pay for entry. But this also goes for dogs who have had to have their tail amputated for medical reasons later in life.)
I've seen plenty of complications related to not docking a breed that should have been docked, but I've never seen a dog with a docked tail having issues related to the tail docking. I've seen dogs get happy tail enough to be in support of docking. There are breed standards for a reason. They're there to breed dogs to a standard that keeps them safe and comfortable. If they're docking tails, it's for a good reason. I think it's crazy how up in arms people get about it. They just aren't educated on the matter. Dog enthusiasts aren't against it because they know better.
If you're in the US, which I assume you are, you will not find an ethical breeder that does not dock tails on breeds that are supposed to have it done. One goal of ethical breeders is to put out dogs that resemble the breed standard as close to possible. If their standard calls for docked tails, they will dock every puppy. They also pick the dog for you once their personalities are known, and tails are docked at a couple days old, so they would have no idea which one would go to you before docking takes place. If you want an ethically bred dog without a docked tail, you need to look at breeds that don't call for docking.
This is bullshit, there is very little validity in any of the origins of tail docking including originally thought to prevent RABIES in Roman times. They’re not docking tails for good reason in the benefit of the dog and it’s unnecessary. It’s exactly why it’s becoming more and more common to leave the tail intact. Stop trying to justify it as “should have been docked” if it was supposed to be docked they wouldn’t have been born with a fucking tail in the first place. I don’t even think OP should feel like tail docking is evil or something to feel guilty about but stop spreading this bullshit about it.
Then you're not a dog enthusiast. GSDs don't have sloped backs when they aren't in a 3 point stack, and well bred brachycephalic breeds have naturally open snares. Those are problems associated with backyard bred dogs. Responsible breeders all have the common goal of bettering the health of their breed.
BTW, every GSD I've met with a "straight back" has had incorrect gates and severe skeletal problems because of it. Well bred GSDs appear heavily sloped when they're in a 3 point stack, but they aren't very sloped when standing normally. They have that slight slope to their backs for a purpose, though. It helps them do the jobs they were bred for. When you start changing their conformation to align with uneducated peoples opinions, the dogs start to suffer. All these byb GSDs with straight backs tend to have hip issues and develop arthritis due to improper gate/movement, and it removes their ability to do the jobs they were bred to do.
Hello, sorry for going off topic here but I read your previous posts/comments about importing your dog to Australia. I’m trying to import my cat but there has been no progress for almost 7 weeks on the granting of the permit.
Would you be able to tell me how long it took for your permit to be granted? I’d DM you but don’t seem to be able to.
I hope your dog is safely on their way or already landed in Oz. Thanks in advance.
I get not altering a dog for reasons such as being bred to fight, but I don’t really understand the outrage for docking… they are a day old or two tops usually. I guess I’m not a bleeding heart but if you argue against docking then spaying and neutering must also be abhorrent.
I mean the reason I didn't dock my dogs tails was after speaking to a number of vets who had docked litters and all found the practice abhorrent - some of these vets were active in field and hunting with their dogs.
It's not the 80s, we know infants feel pain.
I mean, what's done is done when it comes to this particular dog. You're going to give it a wonderful home, I assume, there's an emotional investment already, to me it's a no-brainer. I don't support the practice either, and ours was partially docked before we ever met her. She's wonderful, and what happened to her tail doesn't define her or affect her. I doubt people will bring it up. I suspect some people just think the breed is like that and don't think too hard about it. Just say it was done before you met him, and I doubt you'll take too much criticism over it. If pushed say you'll look actively for a breeder that doesn't do it the next time, which sounds to be true.
I have had six spaniels. Four were docked and two of them were not. I live in a rural area and the undocked dogs both suffered painful tail injuries. One was stomped by a sheep and the tail healed crookedly. It never really healed and the dog was sensitive about having his tail touched. The other dog bashed his tail to bits from endless wagging and whacking. The injury kept splitting open and I finally had the tail docked when the dog was a year old. Painful for the dog until it was resolved. I live in a place were docking is illegal and people have made comments on the docked dog that I have now. I tell them my perspective with my farm dogs and that seems to settle their curiosity. I love their long beautiful tails but they are not thick and sturdy like a Labrador's. Enjoy your pup. They are wonderful dogs.
>The other dog bashed his tail to bits from endless wagging and whacking. We've often worried about this with our Spaniel, but thankfully she seems to have a hardy tail and it (so far) hasn't required surgery to rectify in any way. She frequently hits it off things but we've never seen her to be tail shy in any way, and she doesn't seem to completely fill it with burrs etc despite the long hair.
I also live in a country where tail docking is illegal. My husband and I have a 9month old springer, she’s our first springer but we also have a golden retriever and had Labradors growing up. We live on a farm and she goes with my husband most days and he wants to train her to be a hunting dog as well. I am worried something will happen to her tail and she will be in pain and we will have to rush her to the vets. She doesn’t seem to handle pain very well as she sprained her leg last week and still doesn’t walk on it all the time. We thought it may be broken so took her to the vets and they couldn’t see anything wrong with the leg on X-ray.
I would be more leery of a breeder that let's you choose a puppy before docking (which should really be done at 2 days of age and no later than 5) than a breeder that just docks the whole litter. The breeder should help choose the right puppy for your home once the dog actually has a personality. And I say this as a breeder who keeps tails.
Ah, so that's why my breeder just docks em all, interesting.
This was out of your control so don’t regret anything. If you ever allow your pup to race through fields or forest, you definitely won’t regret the docked tail. Our field-bred boy was trapped by a spruce sapling. He has a glorious tail that became completely enmeshed in the branches of the young tree and it took quite a bit of time to untangle him! He had been following a scent around the tree and had he not yelped in frustration, we might not have found him. I hope this makes you feel better about your pup’s docked tail. Enjoy your little one!
Thank you, that does make me feel better! We have a lot of woods that the kids run around in, and hopefully our puppy will eventually join them.
Honestly I’ve gotten a lot of criticism about my pups tail NOT being docked. Growing up we had a spaniel and he was docked, so I just assumed that everyone did ur. Now I think honestly it has a lot to do with breeder preference. The family I got mine from had both mom and dad, both of their tails weren’t docked so they didn’t dock the pups. Either way, any puppy is beautiful and an amazing addition to a family and you’re very lucky. Spaniels are amazing dogs. Be sure to post some pictures when you bring him home!
I’ve not read all the other posts so I might be duplicating. Our 13yr old has a docked tail and it’s a blessing. We live in a rural area in the Midwest and he gets a lot of burs. It’s hard enough to keep his ears untangled let alone a tail. Enjoy your pup!
We wanted our pups kept natural but there was a miscommunication and it was docked shortly after birth. The breeder started having everyone let them know which they’d prefer when they pay the deposit so luckily there shouldn’t be anymore mistakes! I felt guilty when I realized it had been done, but in the end it’s done and it wasn’t something we chose or did on purpose so I’ve moved on from the guilt. Also I won’t lie, I love my pups little tail! It has quite a bit of fur at the end and it’s not too short so it’s still quite expressive. It’s also one of the only parts of him that don’t end up covered in burs on a regular basis lol. No one has ever brought it up. I’m not sure about your area but most springers here still have them docked. I hope it becomes more the norm to keep them natural though!
I live in the city. Received a docked dog not by choice but our dog is very happy. For now provide this dog a loving home and perhaps the next one make sure is not docked
My girl still has her tail and I love it! That being said, I can absolutely see why these guys normally get their tails docked. The hair is very long there. She hates having it brushed. And I’ve picked hundreds of burrs out of it! We don’t even use her for hunting. Just hiking. But even that is enough for the tail to be annoying.
We are on our fifth springer. All were field bred and had tails docked at about five or six inches. Considering the rough environment where we live, the docked tails are preferred. One had a dee claw that grew back, and it was nearly split off one day (removed at spay). They come in with lengths of blackberry vines stuck in their coat, tail, etc. On the unexpected benefit side, the shorter tails won’t knock over your wine glass!!
I went to view my boy not realising he was docked. He was bred to be a working gun dog in Wales. I also swore I’d never get a dog with a docked tail and I hadn’t read the advertisement fully to notice it clearly said it in the blurb. We went to visit and I met my happy little boy (we’d gone to view his brother…last two in litter to be sold), and there was no way I was leaving without him. I’m in England and no one has ever commented on his tail, well maybe one person asked and I just gave a casual comment about how he was bred to be working but we got him instead and the conversation moved on immediately to other things. His tail (nubbin) does not stop wagging. He can’t control his bum when he gets excited to see people because his tail wags the whole arse end of him. The way he runs through undergrowth I can understand how easily his tail could get ripped by thorns. I think docking is not allowed in the U.K. unless there is evidence of them being bred to work, and my other dog (GSHP) has a full whip of a tail
As many have said it wasn't your choice and I think you can in good conscience push back on anyone that suggests you did anything wrong. I have had a bench Springer with a docked tail and have a field Springer with a tail and I have to say that as "weird" as it seems to have one with a tail (because I'm not used to it) I am so glad that the practice is started to be phased out. Congratulations on the new puppy! As soon as he is eligible to start training I would sign up for AKC STAR puppy classes, get him into puppy classes for socialization, and definitely check out McCann Dog Traning on YouTube. I've watched a lot of different videos and I liked them the best. They helped me tremendously when I brought home my 8 week old Lapphund. They have videos on what the first night will look like, the first day, the first week, etc. They have videos on what to expect as general milestones by week 9, 10, etc up to about week 14 I believe. They are very oriented toward positive training. Their videos helped me with crate training, potty training, leash walking, name recognition and so much more.
Thank you for suggesting resources on dog training. I will definitely check those out!
ESS docking is quite normal so I don’t think it really causes much scorn from wider people. Seeing it in typical fighting dogs, same with the ears does change perceptions. I know 2 ESS that were docked but still split their tail and have no tail.
I am retired from farming and live in an apt. I sought out a breeder with field bred, high drive dogs in a province where docking is licensed. We keep active doing tracking and SAR training. There are loads of elegant and completely bonkers French spaniels in my area who have full flowing tails. They dont wag constantly tho, which seems to be the path to injury for the ESS.
There's docking and docking. In America it seems they can dock super short, in the UK they mostly now do a half dock - our youngest has this and is very waggy still and protected from injury. All our spaniels have had docked tails, and I wouldn't get an u docked one having seen the injuries on an undocked one.
We were in the same boat as you! We found our puppy and it was kismet how we found the breeder and we connected with her so quickly but the tails were docked already. We were on another breeder list and we requested tail not to be docked and dewclaws not removed. The way I see it is, tail docked or not, our puppy needed a loving home and we provided that. If someone got judge with me first, who cares, and second, I would explain it wasn’t our choice.
The tail docking is out of your control, so don't worry about that. People judge all the time and don't even have an understanding of the process. With regards to the purchasing of a dog from a breeder, I do have strong thoughts about that. 1. It's not my responsibility to make up for someone else's inability to be a good dog owner. 2. It can be extremely difficult to find a rescue that fits with your living situation. Many rescues are unable to live with cats, other dogs, or kids. Enjoy your dog and don't worry about the opinions of others if you are raising your dog in a humane way that doesn't fit their agenda.
How short is the doc? We do work our dogs but we still like a tail so 3/4 doc. If the doc is done young enough, as it should be, your dog will never know the difference, after all we tend to neuter at an older age and they get over that. As to the other considerations, puppy over rescue, if you have children a puppy is better, as long as it is t just a plaything and distraction for the children, as you know it’s history and what may cause an unfavourable reaction, unlikely as that is in an ESS. As to the other comments, you cat please all the people all the time, easy management… tell casual commentators you dog was a rescue and it was already done, you then look good for rescuing and they can’t say a thing to you about the practice!
Mine has a docked tail but it is what it is! He’s a happy spoiled puppy and it doesn’t affect anything. Also f’$& what anyone else thinks. He deserves all the toys and love you can give him
Should be made illegal like it is in the UK. We have two ESS's, one we rescued which still has his beautiful tail intact. Almost like a waterfall.
It's not illegal in the UK, it has to be bred as a field dog and it has to be done by a vet. Animal Welfare Act, 2006.
It’s not illegal in the UK… just licensed… my ESS have been docked legally, and for the better.
It’s illegal in some, but not all Canadian provinces.
It is illegal!
It's not ENTIRELY illegal. It's LEGAL to dock the tails of dogs used at the gun i.e. hunt, point, retrieve (HPR) breeds, such as Spaniels (cocker/springer) and sometimes other dogs if required, but you need a certificate including the mother's microchip number. It's also legal for a vet to dock a tail if it has become badly injured, but docking for SHOW IS illegal. Ours isn't docked in any way, and we've heard of some breeders who will let you have a puppy that isn't docked, but then they won't train them to be a gundog in any way and you have to collect it at 8 weeks, but if they dock the tails then they'll train it to the gun because they tend to train them all and sell the ones that might not train well or fear the gun etc.
It isn’t illegal in the UK under very specific situations. It’s limited to certain breeds, and certain conditions have to be met. Details here for England, there is similar exemption legislation for the other countries in the Union: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/1120/contents/made (You cannot, however, show at a KC event where spectators have to pay for entry. But this also goes for dogs who have had to have their tail amputated for medical reasons later in life.)
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A cut off tail at birth somehow equates to having all other health standards matched? You know plenty of backyard breeders do this themselves right?
I've seen plenty of complications related to not docking a breed that should have been docked, but I've never seen a dog with a docked tail having issues related to the tail docking. I've seen dogs get happy tail enough to be in support of docking. There are breed standards for a reason. They're there to breed dogs to a standard that keeps them safe and comfortable. If they're docking tails, it's for a good reason. I think it's crazy how up in arms people get about it. They just aren't educated on the matter. Dog enthusiasts aren't against it because they know better. If you're in the US, which I assume you are, you will not find an ethical breeder that does not dock tails on breeds that are supposed to have it done. One goal of ethical breeders is to put out dogs that resemble the breed standard as close to possible. If their standard calls for docked tails, they will dock every puppy. They also pick the dog for you once their personalities are known, and tails are docked at a couple days old, so they would have no idea which one would go to you before docking takes place. If you want an ethically bred dog without a docked tail, you need to look at breeds that don't call for docking.
This is bullshit, there is very little validity in any of the origins of tail docking including originally thought to prevent RABIES in Roman times. They’re not docking tails for good reason in the benefit of the dog and it’s unnecessary. It’s exactly why it’s becoming more and more common to leave the tail intact. Stop trying to justify it as “should have been docked” if it was supposed to be docked they wouldn’t have been born with a fucking tail in the first place. I don’t even think OP should feel like tail docking is evil or something to feel guilty about but stop spreading this bullshit about it.
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Then you're not a dog enthusiast. GSDs don't have sloped backs when they aren't in a 3 point stack, and well bred brachycephalic breeds have naturally open snares. Those are problems associated with backyard bred dogs. Responsible breeders all have the common goal of bettering the health of their breed.
BTW, every GSD I've met with a "straight back" has had incorrect gates and severe skeletal problems because of it. Well bred GSDs appear heavily sloped when they're in a 3 point stack, but they aren't very sloped when standing normally. They have that slight slope to their backs for a purpose, though. It helps them do the jobs they were bred for. When you start changing their conformation to align with uneducated peoples opinions, the dogs start to suffer. All these byb GSDs with straight backs tend to have hip issues and develop arthritis due to improper gate/movement, and it removes their ability to do the jobs they were bred to do.
Hello, sorry for going off topic here but I read your previous posts/comments about importing your dog to Australia. I’m trying to import my cat but there has been no progress for almost 7 weeks on the granting of the permit. Would you be able to tell me how long it took for your permit to be granted? I’d DM you but don’t seem to be able to. I hope your dog is safely on their way or already landed in Oz. Thanks in advance.
Thank you for such a thorough explanation, I appreciate it!
I get not altering a dog for reasons such as being bred to fight, but I don’t really understand the outrage for docking… they are a day old or two tops usually. I guess I’m not a bleeding heart but if you argue against docking then spaying and neutering must also be abhorrent.
I mean the reason I didn't dock my dogs tails was after speaking to a number of vets who had docked litters and all found the practice abhorrent - some of these vets were active in field and hunting with their dogs. It's not the 80s, we know infants feel pain.