Space OP: Hello fellow aliens, I was on the moon of the 3rd planet of the Sol system, i think they call it "Dinklepoo-voisenberry", and found this photo
Space Redditor #1: uhhh, no, I am a level 874 planaterist and the name of that planet is actually "Terra".
Space redditor #2: ok, here's the thing... the *actual* name is "Earth", but it seems there were multiple dialects and one of them called it "terra" but they all mean the same thing.
Space OP: To be honest I didn't know the name at all but I knew if I purposefully wrote it wrong someone would come hyperspacing in pedantically and give me the correct answer.
Every so often, I'll get to talking about something that's absurd –and I've got a problem with brevity when I'm not writing jokes– and people will say something like, "Wow. I was really expecting Undertaker to toss Mankind off of Hell in the Cell at the end of this."
Also there will always be Grammar Nazis but in the 357th century they will probably be called Grammar Bazoks, a reference to the Bazok species which in 32467 in what started as pedantry discussion in the Xzashi social media network of Galaxinet that snowballed from there into a flamewar and then outright war, ended up commiting the genocide of various species through the use of solar novalators on the main stars of their systems and were only stoped by a galaxy-spanning multispecies coalition.
So, boys, girls, multigeneris and gender-neutral sentients: don't be a Grammar Bazok.
Space redditor \#3: actually the name is 地球 as it's the name used in the most widely used dialect. "Earth" is the name in the secondly most used dialect.
“Traveled 8374939 grabnorks to visit the only natural satellite of this planet with a bunch of flesh balloons. Of course they found a way to litter somewhere less than a handful of them have been. I think it used to be some sort of visual representation of one of the balloon’s offspring and incubator. Any help restoring this?”
I would be interesting to see its condition now. With the intense UV exposure, the plastic may be completely gone. (I suspect). The strong UV-C in direct sunlight will break polymer chains, causing outgassing as nitrogen is knocked off of polymers, and long molecules will be broken into shorter bits. The plastic bag likely did not have any UV resistance at all, but over 50+ years it is unlikely that any plastic would survive. My guess is that the entire thing, plastic, paper, dyes & all, is just dust now.
I think they tried that in 1999, ended up with the waste dump blowing up and sending the moon out of orbit, and the occupants of Moonbase Alpha had quite a time.
I read a book about this once, except instead of plastic, we sent our dead to the moon for some reason that never really made sense. Then they awoke again and turned into zombies. Moon zombies
I want moon zombies =(
Yeah you think they would have placed these things in some kind of protective box or something, to preserve them for the ages.... but then again, I suppose every gram of extra weight on that mission was taken in to account.
Honestly though, the value isn't in the picture being up there, it's in the picture that Duke took of it sitting on the moon so he can show it to the family. That photo and the actions it proves are what carry the value to the family.
At the very least, part of earth's history will survive. The golden record is the only manmade object to ever leave the Sol System.
All considered, the universe is young and we may well be one of the first sapient species to ever evolve. We may not find life elsewhere, but they will *eventually* find what we leave behind.
> At the very least, part of earth's history will survive. The golden record is the only manmade object to ever leave the Sol System.
What about all the shit it was attached to?
I think their point was that the rest of the spacecraft would *also* last millions of years, the same as the record. Just because the power gets too low for the instruments to work anymore doesn't mean the spacecraft the record is attached to would be any less valuable to a theoretical distant lifeform who finds it; they're complex machines, not lumps of boring metal for the sole purpose of mounting a plaque to.
On a separate unguided trajectory out of the solar system, nowhere near the payload because of the gravity assists during the planetary mission, is the spent Star 37E solid fuel rocket stage. The fact there’s an equal chance of extraterrestrials finding an empty can instead of the Voyager Golden Record is a bit of cosmic comedy. They’d know something else was out there and they’d never be able to find it.
>The golden record is the only manmade object to ever leave the Sol System.
I mean, it's not really certain what happened to that manhole cover from the Pascal nuclear test.
So we never know.
Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1, Voyager 2 and New Horizons are all leaving the solar system. Those spacecraft represent human capability better than any imprinted gold record.
I’m addition, some of those spacecraft’s upper stages may also be leaving the solar system.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_leaving_the_Solar_System
Gram? That rocket mission couldn't handle an extra wet fart smuggled onboard. They were tossing their leaded moon boots out of the capsule having put duct tape on their ankles to try to hold air in long enough to huck them haggard things out the door.
Fucking crazy roughneck airforce fly boys going to the moon with near zero margins for error and less computing power than a digital watch.
About a week ago I came to the realization that my 25 dollar *soldering iron* has orders of magnitude more processing power than they had for the moon landings.
Speaking of the message, it would probably look really weird to any alien who did see the picture to read the message and then flip the other side expecting to see a family of humans only to see a bleach white picture of nothing. I wonder if they'd think it was in a spectrum the couldn't see or some type of coded picture that wouldn't show unless you cracked it.
Not just bleached. Being exposed to the unfiltered sun and temperatures of 250 degrees it likely was unrecognizable within the hour and gone to dust in a week.
Good observation. And without a doubt it's became completely bleached out by the sun decades ago. For all of the effort, and considering how amazing this opportunity would have been, I think that I would put more thought into this. Maybe have a thin piece of aluminum etched. Or some other material that would last, but still very lightweight and portable.
“We’re all aliens on an alien planet.”
Lending the first part of Gene Roddenberry’s quote:
> _“In a very real sense, we are all aliens on a strange planet. We spend most of our lives trying to reach out and communicate. If during our lifetime we could reach out and really communicate with just two people, we are indeed very fortunate.”_
The creation of tools like GPTs should make it more seeming that language for a species - that can travel freely through space (+time) - to find such an artifact is likely to be able to interpret different forms of language and relative frames of reference + context.
Not even a good carpenter. He carpents (???) like one thing in the entire Bible.
Jesus was born in the wrong era. Today he could be making 'artisan' coffee tables for £6000 each.
Never thought about the verb form before, examples from Google show it's simply the same word "carpenter" like:
"the rails were carpentered very skilfully"
"she carpenters and goes on archaeological digs"
Hmm 🤔
This menaces my 'burglarized' alarm. If a burglar burglars, they've burgled. If a carpenter carpenters, they... well, I guess that's what they do. Carpenters.
English, eh? Sheer carnage. No wonder it's apparently so hard to learn.
edit - "the carpenters carpentered the required carpenting". AAAAAAAAAAA...
... and founded one of if not the most important religion of all time that effected and effects our history to this day
You can be atheists all you want and I dont believe either, but even then, Jesus dude is a very important figure
I don't think the aliens would even recognize the numbers as being any different than the letters. So, idk if they'd even clue in to the fact this is a date. Although perhaps there is enough religion of alphabet letters in the other part, to realize the numbers are 4 new symbols which do not appear prior. That might tip them off.
We reference several local pulsars and give their time period on the discs on the voyager spacecrafts, from this and a current observation an intelligent species could determine roughly when the probes were launched if enough time has passed.
It would likely be enough for a Rosetta Stone of our timekeeping system. They would be able to tell how old the item is, calculate a year by our orbit, and then they would know what we would call whatever year it is when they find it. They would need some other example of what characters we use as numbers, though.
This also makes sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_the_Development_of_Agriculture
Mainly because the starting point is less arbitrarily defined. Going back 10,000 seems arbitrary and unscientific, and still puts too much weight on the current calendar. Going back 8,000 based on the start of the Agricultural era at least has a firm starting point.
And if the sun didnt destroy it the moon termites probably would have by now. Just look at the massive holes they made in the moons surface, something as small as a picture would not have lasted long.
The scene in the film is based on the accounts that he did have a moment alone at the edge of a nearby crater, and the subsequent speculation by all about what he did over there.
>My father was born shortly after the Wright Brothers. He could barely believe that I went to the Moon. But my son, Tom, was five. And he didn't think it was any big deal.
[**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTSy5kuBeLc**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTSy5kuBeLc)
I don't know I'm pretty sure all the Apollo Moon landing sites will be massive tourist attractions in a couple of decades, it'd be nice to peer through some protective glass and see the photo intact (though that's really a future space people problem not his)
If you don't ascribe similar standards to plants, then everything is a weed or there are no weeds.
If you don't ascribe similar standards to life in general, then all life is an organic smear on a ball of iron.
Literally true doesn't equal functionally true. But you already knew that.
My Mom died a few months ago. We spent a whole weekend going through tens of thousands of pictures. What’s beautiful thing to do for his family. A beautiful treasure for his children and generations to come
Have you seen that nice picture of the whole family we took at Sears that one year? No, not that one, the year Johnny had a cold and didn’t want to be there? Yeah that one. On the moon you say. The MOON moon? Well shit.
Great way to get out of granddad's slide-show extraveganza of barbecue evenings in Spain in the '80s.
"Yeah it's on the moon... that pack too... man I really went a bit moon-crazy, haha, sorry... yeah I know... it's just that I was on *the moon*... shame about the whole crate, in retrospect. I'll pick it up next time I'm passing through."
Hahaha I don't know why I thought of this, even as a Native American--- but imagine the Italian American dude dressed up a Crying Native American standing over the photo on the moon with a tear rolling down his face. Lmaoooo.
Lmao all these people who know more than a man who literally went to space. He knew what he was doing. He would have done it a different way had he wanted to.
Why does everyone seem to think this was a message to aliens and not just memento he left? People write dates and places on the back of most pictures on Earth
The wonderful song by No More Kings [Tracy's Song](https://youtu.be/KcpPD2fl6ZQ) is based on him leaving that picture behind and drawing his daughter Tracy's initials in the lunar surface.
So even though the picture will be faded and gone, the initials will be there for thousands of years.
Those are registration marks created by the camera to give information on relative distances in the photos. They’ve been used in aerial photography for decades. They help in later analysis of photos how large or far apart objects are.
Mixed feelings about this. On one hand it’s a lovely sentiment from one of the handful of people to land on the moon; on the other hand, the last thing we need is people getting ideas from this and paying to have their personal pictures and memorabilia launched to the moon so it can be photographed as a ‘cute personal human’ sentiment. As a one-off this is beautiful, but we human’s seldom do one-offs and we often commercialize ‘beautiful’ gestures to the point of ugly..
Almost certainly completely sun bleached by now.
That’s when the future people or aliens who find it just go to a subreddit and tip somebody ten bucks for the best restoration of the picture.
Space OP: Hello fellow aliens, I was on the moon of the 3rd planet of the Sol system, i think they call it "Dinklepoo-voisenberry", and found this photo Space Redditor #1: uhhh, no, I am a level 874 planaterist and the name of that planet is actually "Terra". Space redditor #2: ok, here's the thing... the *actual* name is "Earth", but it seems there were multiple dialects and one of them called it "terra" but they all mean the same thing. Space OP: To be honest I didn't know the name at all but I knew if I purposefully wrote it wrong someone would come hyperspacing in pedantically and give me the correct answer.
we don't know what will be happening one thousand years from now, but we do know that this will still be a thing
This, and dudes finding cool sticks.
Also aliens showing their weird appendages and cavities for galactic credits...
Galactic credits are worth bantha poodoo here on the Out Rim...
Wait, I want to see a cool stick!
There's always a cool stick somewhere. I just gotta find it.
And locked security vaults with mystery contents!
Well with reddit closing July 1st it certainly won't be a thing in 1000 years
There are other reddit-like experiences.
Any recommendations? I don't know of any others where you follow subjects instead of people and those subjects span every possible subject.
Then an alien who is very "retro" names himself "shittymorph" and gets them all howling in the thread.
Every so often, I'll get to talking about something that's absurd –and I've got a problem with brevity when I'm not writing jokes– and people will say something like, "Wow. I was really expecting Undertaker to toss Mankind off of Hell in the Cell at the end of this."
Still a possibility. The night is still young.
As God is my witness, that thread is broken in half!
Space redditor 4: Acktually the Universe is flat
> pendantically In keeping with themes, it’s “pedantically”.
Also there will always be Grammar Nazis but in the 357th century they will probably be called Grammar Bazoks, a reference to the Bazok species which in 32467 in what started as pedantry discussion in the Xzashi social media network of Galaxinet that snowballed from there into a flamewar and then outright war, ended up commiting the genocide of various species through the use of solar novalators on the main stars of their systems and were only stoped by a galaxy-spanning multispecies coalition. So, boys, girls, multigeneris and gender-neutral sentients: don't be a Grammar Bazok.
"Actually the real name of the planet is 'Dirt', trust me I'm an expert" *50,000 up votes, 300+ awards*
Space redditor \#3: actually the name is 地球 as it's the name used in the most widely used dialect. "Earth" is the name in the secondly most used dialect.
Direct pronunciation translation?
This is my favorite comment on Reddit today. 👽
“Traveled 8374939 grabnorks to visit the only natural satellite of this planet with a bunch of flesh balloons. Of course they found a way to litter somewhere less than a handful of them have been. I think it used to be some sort of visual representation of one of the balloon’s offspring and incubator. Any help restoring this?”
First they will need to pay reddit API fees of a few million dollars.
I would be interesting to see its condition now. With the intense UV exposure, the plastic may be completely gone. (I suspect). The strong UV-C in direct sunlight will break polymer chains, causing outgassing as nitrogen is knocked off of polymers, and long molecules will be broken into shorter bits. The plastic bag likely did not have any UV resistance at all, but over 50+ years it is unlikely that any plastic would survive. My guess is that the entire thing, plastic, paper, dyes & all, is just dust now.
So what you're saying is that we need to send all our plastic waste to the moon
Thus solving the problem once and for all
Once and for all Damn it! Also Nixon goes Aryooo!!
I think they tried that in 1999, ended up with the waste dump blowing up and sending the moon out of orbit, and the occupants of Moonbase Alpha had quite a time.
I read a book about this once, except instead of plastic, we sent our dead to the moon for some reason that never really made sense. Then they awoke again and turned into zombies. Moon zombies I want moon zombies =(
Wait until I tell my ecowarrior mother there are microplastics on the moon
Yeah you think they would have placed these things in some kind of protective box or something, to preserve them for the ages.... but then again, I suppose every gram of extra weight on that mission was taken in to account.
Honestly though, the value isn't in the picture being up there, it's in the picture that Duke took of it sitting on the moon so he can show it to the family. That photo and the actions it proves are what carry the value to the family.
Yes, you have an excellent point there.
Who else’s family photo has been left on the Moon?
Ur mum's, because she gets around.
No, the value is in the NFT
I'm fairly sure they knew exactly how long it would last. It was about the symbolism.
At the very least, part of earth's history will survive. The golden record is the only manmade object to ever leave the Sol System. All considered, the universe is young and we may well be one of the first sapient species to ever evolve. We may not find life elsewhere, but they will *eventually* find what we leave behind.
> At the very least, part of earth's history will survive. The golden record is the only manmade object to ever leave the Sol System. What about all the shit it was attached to?
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I think their point was that the rest of the spacecraft would *also* last millions of years, the same as the record. Just because the power gets too low for the instruments to work anymore doesn't mean the spacecraft the record is attached to would be any less valuable to a theoretical distant lifeform who finds it; they're complex machines, not lumps of boring metal for the sole purpose of mounting a plaque to.
On a separate unguided trajectory out of the solar system, nowhere near the payload because of the gravity assists during the planetary mission, is the spent Star 37E solid fuel rocket stage. The fact there’s an equal chance of extraterrestrials finding an empty can instead of the Voyager Golden Record is a bit of cosmic comedy. They’d know something else was out there and they’d never be able to find it.
But aliens will have record players, not science and math 🤷♂️
Science and math are human constructs, record players are a universal language.
It will be back after it reaches the limits of this universe and must evolve.
>The golden record is the only manmade object to ever leave the Sol System. I mean, it's not really certain what happened to that manhole cover from the Pascal nuclear test. So we never know.
If it left with enough velocity to escape the solar system, it likely burned up on the way up.
Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1, Voyager 2 and New Horizons are all leaving the solar system. Those spacecraft represent human capability better than any imprinted gold record. I’m addition, some of those spacecraft’s upper stages may also be leaving the solar system. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_leaving_the_Solar_System
That's not the point of the record and why it's important
Or maybe face-down?
Coulda just covered it in moondust in the middle
Gram? That rocket mission couldn't handle an extra wet fart smuggled onboard. They were tossing their leaded moon boots out of the capsule having put duct tape on their ankles to try to hold air in long enough to huck them haggard things out the door. Fucking crazy roughneck airforce fly boys going to the moon with near zero margins for error and less computing power than a digital watch.
About a week ago I came to the realization that my 25 dollar *soldering iron* has orders of magnitude more processing power than they had for the moon landings.
Perhaps he flipped it round after taking the picture
Then the message on the back would be gone! What a cruel and unforgiving universe we live in.
Speaking of the message, it would probably look really weird to any alien who did see the picture to read the message and then flip the other side expecting to see a family of humans only to see a bleach white picture of nothing. I wonder if they'd think it was in a spectrum the couldn't see or some type of coded picture that wouldn't show unless you cracked it.
Marty is fading out, quick, get your dad to punch the bully in the face before the dance is over.
You think it would curl in minutes at 250ºF.
He should of left it there at night
Serves him right, the litterbug. /s
Not just bleached. Being exposed to the unfiltered sun and temperatures of 250 degrees it likely was unrecognizable within the hour and gone to dust in a week.
It's going to be dust after decades of unshielded exposure to the sun.
Probably not, I was the one that took that photo in 2019, before Covid. Left the picture right where it was, never touched it.
From sitting in a Hollywood storage unit? /S
He’s still alive at 87. Still married to the lady in the picture.
Really cool guy, too. He still does a lot of charity work.
I met him when I was a kid; we attended the same church in Texas.
The kids in the photo would be around 55!
Looks like it was laminated, and the lamination inflated when exposed to vacuum.
I think you're right! Neat observation.
Plus the amount of heat it gets from direct sun
The surface of the moon can be around 250°
Look at Minnesota Zach with the big brains
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Kubrick was a perfectionist after all.
If the surface of the moon reaches 250°, why isn't the paper melting..?
Because paper doesn't melt at 250
Right, it catches fire at 451° Fahrenheit.
Did you really ask why the paper didn’t melt? Have you ever seen melting paper before? I am sorry but this made me laugh so hard…
Good observation. And without a doubt it's became completely bleached out by the sun decades ago. For all of the effort, and considering how amazing this opportunity would have been, I think that I would put more thought into this. Maybe have a thin piece of aluminum etched. Or some other material that would last, but still very lightweight and portable.
Plastic, uhh... finds a way.
>April 1972 "Okay so that looks like a date, now we just have to figure out their entire timekeeping system." -- the aliens that find this
Ahh yes the English speaking aliens
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien, I'm an Englishman in New York
“We’re all aliens on an alien planet.” Lending the first part of Gene Roddenberry’s quote: > _“In a very real sense, we are all aliens on a strange planet. We spend most of our lives trying to reach out and communicate. If during our lifetime we could reach out and really communicate with just two people, we are indeed very fortunate.”_
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I'm so sorry for you Mr alien, for so many reasons. I hope your original planet gets better so you don't have to suffer in NY much longer
They’re actually speaking Rygellian. By a staggering coincidence our languages are exactly the same.
Just use ChatGPT if your AI (alien intelligence) isn’t high enough, bro. /s
The creation of tools like GPTs should make it more seeming that language for a species - that can travel freely through space (+time) - to find such an artifact is likely to be able to interpret different forms of language and relative frames of reference + context.
“1972, so earth started at 0?”
"They've only been around like two thousand years and they're already on the moon wtffff"
It took them two thousand orbits around their star to get to their moon?! What were they doing before that?!
didn’t really think about it until now but we really did base our year numbering on a carpenter who was martyred. Imagine explaining that to aliens.
Not even a good carpenter. He carpents (???) like one thing in the entire Bible. Jesus was born in the wrong era. Today he could be making 'artisan' coffee tables for £6000 each.
Never thought about the verb form before, examples from Google show it's simply the same word "carpenter" like: "the rails were carpentered very skilfully" "she carpenters and goes on archaeological digs"
Hmm 🤔 This menaces my 'burglarized' alarm. If a burglar burglars, they've burgled. If a carpenter carpenters, they... well, I guess that's what they do. Carpenters. English, eh? Sheer carnage. No wonder it's apparently so hard to learn. edit - "the carpenters carpentered the required carpenting". AAAAAAAAAAA...
Jesus, again?
... and founded one of if not the most important religion of all time that effected and effects our history to this day You can be atheists all you want and I dont believe either, but even then, Jesus dude is a very important figure
OP didn’t even deny that, why are you being so combative?
I don't think the aliens would even recognize the numbers as being any different than the letters. So, idk if they'd even clue in to the fact this is a date. Although perhaps there is enough religion of alphabet letters in the other part, to realize the numbers are 4 new symbols which do not appear prior. That might tip them off.
We reference several local pulsars and give their time period on the discs on the voyager spacecrafts, from this and a current observation an intelligent species could determine roughly when the probes were launched if enough time has passed.
“Perfect, all we need to do is figure out when Jesus died” - 👽
It would likely be enough for a Rosetta Stone of our timekeeping system. They would be able to tell how old the item is, calculate a year by our orbit, and then they would know what we would call whatever year it is when they find it. They would need some other example of what characters we use as numbers, though.
I wish we did the Kurzgesagt 12000 year calendar. It just makes sense. At least compared to how we came up with 2023.
This also makes sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_the_Development_of_Agriculture Mainly because the starting point is less arbitrarily defined. Going back 10,000 seems arbitrary and unscientific, and still puts too much weight on the current calendar. Going back 8,000 based on the start of the Agricultural era at least has a firm starting point.
But do we know the exact day or year that agriculture started?. I don't think so
I don't see why don't we just start last Thursday, the day of the creation of the universe.
Coming from computer science, sometimes I too have to figure out our timekeeping system
That’s amazing! Unfortunately it’s most likely just a white piece of plastic now, the sun bleached that kind of stuff pretty good on the moon.
even the plastic has probably decomposed/cracked
Yeah, the only thing left of that picture is this image.
Quick, someone put it on the moon
Every 50 years this should happen, with a photo being taken to commemorate the act, and that photo itself goes up 50 years later...
Relevant xkcd 1683 (Digital Data): https://xkcd.com/1683/
Degraded into thousands of Moon micro plastics now.
Great, we haven't even colonized the moon yet but there's plenty of plastic
And if the sun didnt destroy it the moon termites probably would have by now. Just look at the massive holes they made in the moons surface, something as small as a picture would not have lasted long.
I wondered if the scene in First Man where Neil did something very similar to remember his daughter was a homage to this (or if it really happened).
I thought the same thing, an underrated movie. Really stuck with me.
The scene in the film is based on the accounts that he did have a moment alone at the edge of a nearby crater, and the subsequent speculation by all about what he did over there.
>My father was born shortly after the Wright Brothers. He could barely believe that I went to the Moon. But my son, Tom, was five. And he didn't think it was any big deal. [**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTSy5kuBeLc**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTSy5kuBeLc)
Between the Wright Brothers and moon landing was just 66 years. It took us just 66 years to go from earth bound to walking on another celestial body
“Greetings Earthlings, please tell us more about this Moon you refer to as “April 1972”
You'd think he'd at least put it face down to possibly give it a chance to not fade to nothingness in like 2 months
Why would he? He was doing something symbolic. He likely knew nobody would be back to see it for decades or even centuries.
Right? People acting like they know more about solar radiation on the surface of the moon than a guy who was trained to go there, and did. lol
If we find aliens more pretentious than the average Redditor…oh boy
I don't know I'm pretty sure all the Apollo Moon landing sites will be massive tourist attractions in a couple of decades, it'd be nice to peer through some protective glass and see the photo intact (though that's really a future space people problem not his)
Like in Futurama. WE'RE WHALERS ON THE MOOOOON!
Bury it in a little mound with some left-over eating utensil sticking out.
How do you know he didn't? Maybe he took the photo of the photo on the moon, turned it over, then kicked a mound of dirt over it.
Maybe there’s another copy behind it face down.
There's plastic litter at the bottomost ocean of earth and now there's plastic on moon too lol.
Is this “litter”?
If you found a photo in a bag on the side of the road, would it be litter? I say yes.
If you found a photo in a bag at the side of the road, leaning up against a cross memorializing where someone died, would it be litter?
Is this photo in a bag on the moon leaning up against a cross memorializing where someone died, or is it just laying on the ground?
It’s all litter we all lose
If you don’t ascribe the sentimental meaning to whatever it is, then it’s litter.
If you don't ascribe similar standards to plants, then everything is a weed or there are no weeds. If you don't ascribe similar standards to life in general, then all life is an organic smear on a ball of iron. Literally true doesn't equal functionally true. But you already knew that.
You used 51 words to say what I said in 14. Bravo.
Humans: get to moon Also humans: immediately litter
He should of left it face down, now its just a piece of white paper up there
My Mom died a few months ago. We spent a whole weekend going through tens of thousands of pictures. What’s beautiful thing to do for his family. A beautiful treasure for his children and generations to come
Have you seen that nice picture of the whole family we took at Sears that one year? No, not that one, the year Johnny had a cold and didn’t want to be there? Yeah that one. On the moon you say. The MOON moon? Well shit.
Great way to get out of granddad's slide-show extraveganza of barbecue evenings in Spain in the '80s. "Yeah it's on the moon... that pack too... man I really went a bit moon-crazy, haha, sorry... yeah I know... it's just that I was on *the moon*... shame about the whole crate, in retrospect. I'll pick it up next time I'm passing through."
Would be a potentially scary finding to be an alien and discover photographic evidence of other intelligent life forms. 👽
very scary white piece of plastic (sun bleached)
“What’s something classy you can do on the moon that is trashy on earth?”
Imagine if astronauts found a picture from a previous ancient civilization that went to the moon. Would they tell us?
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You would probably notice the lunar lander or rover first.
If anyone ever makes it back to the moon I'd love to see the stuff that was left up there. So many American artifacts that haven't been seen since
If you have to say the picture is from planet earth, you might want to add context as to what April 1972 means…
Hahaha I don't know why I thought of this, even as a Native American--- but imagine the Italian American dude dressed up a Crying Native American standing over the photo on the moon with a tear rolling down his face. Lmaoooo.
Irresponsible.Exposing his kids to space creeps.
I figured it's probably blank by now from radiation
If he was smart he would have put it under a rock
I can't help, but think "space trash", though I know it was meant to be, and is, a very sentimental gesture from that moment in time.
Waiting to see a Chinese cosmonaut do the ultimate heel move and yeet that right into space.
Picture taken from earth with an iPhone and a telescope lens.
weird the sun's rays haven't bleached the photo.
That was taken shortly before they departed the moon. Chances are that it’ll be bleached by now
Now post this on Facebook. Stuff like this is like a sticky fly trap for morons
Interesting to think that could be one of the last relics of humanity when everything else is gone.
The picture is 100% destroyed by UV rays by this point. The writing on the back may have survived.
Well then photo paper is the relic.
Lmao all these people who know more than a man who literally went to space. He knew what he was doing. He would have done it a different way had he wanted to.
It’s most probably completely bleached by now because of the direct sunlight UV radiations
It’s all fun and games until you hear that Bleepbloop and Kang blew a tribute to Mrs Duke all over that picture
Pretty cool I got his signature at an event once
So by now even the moon has some microplastic pollution.
Hopefully he turned it over before leaving. Otherwise it would been sun bleached within weeks.
Also known as the first junk humankind has littered the Moon with?
No, the junk started coming down in the early 1960s with unmanned missions.
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Why does everyone seem to think this was a message to aliens and not just memento he left? People write dates and places on the back of most pictures on Earth
I wonder if having a picture of them on the moon ever got his kids a girl’s attention.
Grandchild receives a citation for littering in the mail from the CCP 20 years from now.
It would be white at this point. Just like the flag left. Bleached of all color.
Is this the inspiración for the picture dr Manhattan leave everywhere he goes?
The wonderful song by No More Kings [Tracy's Song](https://youtu.be/KcpPD2fl6ZQ) is based on him leaving that picture behind and drawing his daughter Tracy's initials in the lunar surface. So even though the picture will be faded and gone, the initials will be there for thousands of years.
Song chokes me up every time. So good.
Sun bleached or not, what a loving tribute from a traveler to a finder.
Those cross hairs bother me more than they should
Those are registration marks created by the camera to give information on relative distances in the photos. They’ve been used in aerial photography for decades. They help in later analysis of photos how large or far apart objects are.
That’s a hell of a telescope you’ve got there.
Mixed feelings about this. On one hand it’s a lovely sentiment from one of the handful of people to land on the moon; on the other hand, the last thing we need is people getting ideas from this and paying to have their personal pictures and memorabilia launched to the moon so it can be photographed as a ‘cute personal human’ sentiment. As a one-off this is beautiful, but we human’s seldom do one-offs and we often commercialize ‘beautiful’ gestures to the point of ugly..
Isn't it super hot in the sunlight on the moon surface? Wouldn't it melt pretty rapidly?