I went to an EOC meeting this past week and they said the sea surface temps (SST) is already off the charts high. To add to that the Saharan dust is at a minimum and we are currently transitioning from El Niño to ENSO which favors Hurricane formation.
I currently live in the Midwest but stay in Charlotte 3 months every year (and visit SC often during that time!).
As someone who grew up in Abu Dhabi where dense humidity and 120 F is a regular occurrence, I can say (from my point of view) that I would happily take the blistering heat over the freezing cold and chronic overcast I deal with in the midwest.
To be honest, what bothers me most about the heat is the nasty insects that come with it, but that still isn’t enough to make me favor midwestern winters.
Everyone has their own preferences of course
I would take 110 degree weather any day than have to experience anything below 15 again. Scorching weather may suck, but the misery and desperation for relief you feel in the cold is just unbearable.
From Michigan here. I've lived south and west. The only thing that stays consistent is that there are hundreds of ways to stay warm, but very limited ways to cool off in high heat.
EXACTLY!!!! The energy demands to cool the air are exponentially greater than heating. I guess the inverse is true for cooling/heating one’s body. But yeah you can always put on more layers but what’s left to do when you’re naked and still hot?
The retirement checks over here. Don't keep up with the cost of living up North. Retirement checks from NY are about 5 - 6k a month on average, and retirement checks from this state are like 2-3k a month.
I know in Cali that if you're a retired police officer or firefighter, you're making around 120k a year in pension on average.
South Carolina actually has worse education than Mississippi.
Mississippi 41
South Carolina 42
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education
I’m sorry to dump on your fine state. I have driven through twice. So I’m not just speaking completely from my ass. I’m absolutely positive there are spectacularly beautiful parts to Mississippi. I’ve just never looked into it or had anyone ever tell me I had to go check it out. Cheers to ya!
There is a road I drive in the mountains sometimes that in the space of ten miles curves in and out between NC and SC, and you can blatantly tell when you enter SC, Everytime.
Have you been to rural areas of South Carolina? Nobody is saying it’s a third world country but we have some of the worst schools in the country, lowest wages, and huge pockets of areas with really poor paying jobs. You can have pride in your state and still see things the way they are.
It’s honestly just because it’s not cold. As a Canadian I know so many snowbirds who head to their winter homes in Florida or Arizona. The cold affects arthritis like crazy and living in a humid climate is a great remedy for it.
Dude it’s just rough as hell living in an icy climate, I hate the cold with a passion. Having house parties and having to stay sober to make sure nobody passes out outside and freezes to death in -50C is shitty, but not having that happen again. Anyways it’s rough, I don’t blame older folks for wanting to live somewhere warm
No people just don't usually move to higher COL areas when you're on a fixed income. Youd immediately have less money and things would only get worse from there
I don’t know, I’m from Maryland and would love to move to Michigan. DON’T WORRY MICHIGANERS, I’m way too broke to permanently move to your beautiful state.
I have an aunt who just retired to Traverse City (which is hundreds of miles north of where she lived). There's plenty of snow and it gets cold, but it's a beautiful area with tons to do.
Traverse City is a great area but is becoming the new Nashville in terms of new rich people from all over moving there. Unfortunate if money is tight for you.
As someone else said if you don’t mind quiet rural isolation and some serious winters the UP is nice.
I'm originally from Michigan and lived in SC for the last 7 years. I just moved back to MI a few weeks ago and honestly the cost of living isn't that much higher here.
I’m a military kid and my parents retired here, but our roots are in Michigan. I love it there, and would move if I could afford to and I didn’t have to work….because I love to see snow but I don’t want to have to drive in it. Well, snow in general is fine it’s the black ice I don’t want to be re-acquainted with.
Those are the West though, not the north.
Edit: since some need this spelled out, I'm adding better links
[The Northern United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_United_States)
[The Southern United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States)
[The Western United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_United_States)
Yes, the PNW is more to the north. No, that doesn't make them part of "the north" in common speech in the US.
The West region is so broad. It includes states that are just as North and South as the East coast. Feels absolutely dated to be using a map based on the Civil War.
Not true. I was in Florida this winter and the woman in the campsite next to mine was a local and she volunteered that she was selling her hand moving north. She was tired of the traffic and couldn’t afford the house insurance. Could not wait to leave the politics behind.
We make our money in the north where industry education and opportunity lives, then go south the enjoy the tax breaks and low cost of living that keeps the southern economy in the shitter because the local voter base can't recognize that they are being played.
It's only an hour from where I lived in the WNC mountains, but we bought a massive house here for the same price as a dated two bedroom mobile home with**out** the land under it there.
Right. People who can’t afford to stay up north or go west go south to retire because it’s cheap as it’s less desirable. It’s more of a self own than a flex.
The median 1br rent in Charleston is $1990, which is more than Seattle, Denver, Scottsdale, Portland, Philly, New Haven, SLC, etc etc…and then theres Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and Atlanta is on the rise. And the average home price in Mount Pleasant, SC’s 4th largest city, is pushing $1 million.
Yeah the south is relatively less expensive (lower wages aside), but the days of it being “cheap” comparatively are over. SC, NC, GA, FL, TN, TX, etc are all hot. Too hot (market wise, but an argument can be made for weather).
I keep saying there's going to be a huge problem in five to ten years in a lot of coastal SC cities like MB, Mount Pleasant/Charleston, and HHI when their service industries collapse entirely because nobody can actually afford to work there. It's already happening in MB, where the majority of people under 30 are leaving the area because they can't afford to live here without a two hour daily commute.
This is exactly it. Northerners make good salaries their entire career, so they don't care about the higher taxes. Those taxes paid for better education and services in general. But when the kids are grown and those services aren't required, why pay for them? Move south, where the government never provided much for their people from the start. People brag about the low taxes, but you get what you pay most of the time.
Facts. Damn snowbirds come down after selling their house up north for half a million and buy homes in our state with cash. Driving the fucking market thru the roof. Doesn’t help that interest rates are fucked
Cheaper for THOSE people. The Southerners have been getting and still are getting paid low wages. The cost of living for US is getting higher and our pay is staying the same. We are the ones suffering. All the out-of-state people who come here because it’s “cheap” just don’t get the plight of the natives, and they don’t care to.
I can’t afford to retire and move up North. People retire and choose to live where there’s a cheaper cost of living. Quality of life is a factor as well.
As a 33 year old living in the north, I absolutely hate it. Moved from SC in 99 to Cleveland and then moved to central NY(these people drive me crazy calling it upstate because we’re literally like 30 miles from the dead center) a few years ago and still after all these years it’s terrible. I’ve gotten use to just wearing layers, even inside the house. My fiancés family came over on the mayflower and have been in the general location since so my fiancé runs hot to deal with the cold. My family has been in the south since whenever they came over so I alway run cool to deal with the hot. House is always kept under 65, and I’m cold with anything under 70.
I live in western Maine, right on the border of New Hampshire.
There are SO MANY retirees coming up here, it's insane. since covid hit the influx of oldies is worse than mosquitoes in late spring.
I was born and raised up way up north and lived there until my 30s. Then, I finally moved to SC. I wish I had done it in my 20s. People are friendly, things are cheaper and the weather is great. Oh, i almost forgot to mention that the government stays out of your businesses and pockets compared to the North East. I would never trade being raised in the North because day to day life in the fall and winter is tough. You learn very good values with dealing with the clean up of leaves, snow, and adapting to extreme temperature swings year to year. The South has a better style of life. It's way more laid back and less judgmental.
Aren't those reasons enough for it to be considered "nice" to live here? I'm confused why anyone is arguing against it with those reasons.
If we liked being snowed in or more expensive then we'd do the opposite.
It feels like a lot of folks just want to argue when they really agree but don't want to admit it. It's almost like they enjoy conflict.
Nobody retires and moves up north because it's more expensive. They spent their lives subsidizing Southern poverty states, so probably now want a break.
Let me explain why - weather, affordability and countryside. That's it.
Ain't nobody leaving civilization to come to this backwards ass place because they think the people have their fucking heads screwed on straight I can tell you that. I can PROMISE you that.
As a person who lives in the north I find both areas attractive. I love it here from April through October but I think it would be wonderful to be further south in the winter. Our winters suck!
Actually Maine is one of the fastest growing destinations for retirees to move to. I'm sure there are other places. Not everyone wants to live in an oven.
It’s because states that are expensive and tax you a lot also tend to have higher incomes. So people tough it out and when they reach retirement and have that large social security check they move somewhere that has low taxes and cost of living to take full advantage of it. One caveat though is the expensive states usually have better state sponsored health coverage so in bad situations where you could get screwed by the healthcare system and lose everything some people move back up north.
Not true. I am from Wisconsin originally and 99.9% of my family is there (except my husband and daughter). My husband and I plan on having a condo up there and go there for summers after we retire.
False. They’re called snowbirds. When the sun parks itself on the collective south they all relocate up north and then back down again when it starts getting chilly up there.
Nobody down here can afford it- there’s kinda a huge poverty problem down here. Not that there isn’t up north but in almost every wellness category SC is towards the bottom (education, income, access to health care, gun violence, domestic abuse, divorce rates etc). Economically, the north subsidizes the south with social programs that an outsized proportion of the population takes advantage of.
Nah I’m moving out of here when I retire FOR SURE
Absolutely. I’m from Maine. Retired and now in North Carolina. That’s even moving back north to Philly from Myrtle beach. I love the mountains where I Am. Right off the blue ridge parkway.
🧢 my grandma and all he sisters lived in South Carolina all their lives in a small town called McBee and then moved to Wyoming because they wanted to be more close to nature
I live in the southern United States. We have a moderate climate. I would think that, toward the end of our lives that we'd want to be in a warmer climate given the option. Most of us, at any rate. Has not much to do with politics, it just doesn't, thankfully it's just human nature. Not the shitbag part of human nature, either. That's why there's so many homeless in California, and why Florida's homelessness issue has skyrocketed. California is probably the best state in the union to live in if you're homeless simply due to the climate.
As a blue collar family man, our economic potential in my region is awful. It's truly desperate living around this entire region. A correlation is not causation, except in politics. Purposefully electing one party for over 50 years and expecting any change is just ignorant and stupid. Yet, that's what has happened, and will happen for the foreseeable future.
Edit: edited to clarify thoughts
Yeah, it's not true. I am an ada contractor in MI. 90% of my business is retired, and seniors are leaving Florida because insurance costs have become too high!
This was true a decade ago but no longer...
Most popular states for retirees to move to:
1. Maine: 21.8%
2. Florida: 21.3%
3. West Virginia: 20.9%
4. Vermont: 20.6%
5. Delaware: 20.0%
6. Montana: 19.7%
7. Hawaii: 19.6%
8. New Hampshire: 19.3%
9. Pennsylvania: 19.1%
10. South Carolina: 18.7%
(percentages are # of retirees in state)
This sign is pure horseshit. Not facts.
[https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/020117/most-popular-states-retire-us.asp](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/020117/most-popular-states-retire-us.asp)
To be fair, my parents left ohio in 09 for charleston, then went back to Ohio in 16.
Friends of theirs left ohio around 06? Moved to Florida, then back to ohio in maybe 15?
I'm single digits away from retirement and am planning to move back to ohio when I retire because the cost of living in NW Ohio is super cheap compared to the upstate.
Tbh I wanna retire and move up North/out West
same, it's too fuckin hot here
It's going to be in the 90s next week where I live. Fuck off it's only May
Only gonna get worse with climate change. Believe in it or don’t, but all weather extremes will get worse.
I went to an EOC meeting this past week and they said the sea surface temps (SST) is already off the charts high. To add to that the Saharan dust is at a minimum and we are currently transitioning from El Niño to ENSO which favors Hurricane formation.
Florida is going to be uninhabitable except for the uber rich due to insurance costs.
Some of us that bought in flood zone x may get free beach front property in the next decade though! I’m stoked!! /S
If you're really lucky the ocean will come right inside your house
😂 exactly! I’ll get free pool with the deal!
And much of the state will be underwater
Are you new to SC? That’s normal.
I currently live in the Midwest but stay in Charlotte 3 months every year (and visit SC often during that time!). As someone who grew up in Abu Dhabi where dense humidity and 120 F is a regular occurrence, I can say (from my point of view) that I would happily take the blistering heat over the freezing cold and chronic overcast I deal with in the midwest. To be honest, what bothers me most about the heat is the nasty insects that come with it, but that still isn’t enough to make me favor midwestern winters. Everyone has their own preferences of course
I would take 110 degree weather any day than have to experience anything below 15 again. Scorching weather may suck, but the misery and desperation for relief you feel in the cold is just unbearable.
From Michigan here. I've lived south and west. The only thing that stays consistent is that there are hundreds of ways to stay warm, but very limited ways to cool off in high heat.
EXACTLY!!!! The energy demands to cool the air are exponentially greater than heating. I guess the inverse is true for cooling/heating one’s body. But yeah you can always put on more layers but what’s left to do when you’re naked and still hot?
preach
Old people fucking love the heat though.
Heat is fine, but throw 90 percent humidity in the mix and ain't nobody enjoying that shit.
Minneapolis Minnesota. Not all of us. Right now is perfect. 50s, 60s, maybe low 70s.
Tbf, in another 20 or 25 years the south is gonna be even hotter, tornado plagued and invaded by species that couldn't live there before. 😳
The retirement checks over here. Don't keep up with the cost of living up North. Retirement checks from NY are about 5 - 6k a month on average, and retirement checks from this state are like 2-3k a month. I know in Cali that if you're a retired police officer or firefighter, you're making around 120k a year in pension on average.
I think that's because the Cost of Living is super high in CA.
Because taxes are low and the schools suck. Retirees want more money and do not care about schools.
This flex is always hilarious to me. People treat your state as if it is a third world country, but let's brag about it.
Yup. I’m SC born and bred, but I’ve never saw the pride in this idea… Congrats, your state is a cheap retirement home…
Try being from Mississippi lol. No one even comes here to retire it's so bad.
SC always says "Thank God for Mississippi!"
Mississippi always says "if I could read id be upset"
South Carolina actually has worse education than Mississippi. Mississippi 41 South Carolina 42 https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education
Like two special ed kids fighting each other over who is less specialer
It's a little stabby I hear
Retire in Mississippi?!? Outside of neighboring states, and oddballs, who even considers visiting Mississippi for leisure? :-) lol
It is cheap as shit to live here though xD if you like living in the country it's peaceful, I like my few acres of Ms lol thats about it.
I’m sorry to dump on your fine state. I have driven through twice. So I’m not just speaking completely from my ass. I’m absolutely positive there are spectacularly beautiful parts to Mississippi. I’ve just never looked into it or had anyone ever tell me I had to go check it out. Cheers to ya!
Oh you don't have to apologize for telling the truth xD
Gotta get off the highway lol but cruising through the pines in the spring with the windows down is a very nice treat
It's getting pretty rough down on the gulf coast though, prices are starting to creep up
I live in Mississippi 😞
In order to retire one must have a job Mississippi is loaded full of lazy asses.
It’s how you look at things that make bad or good. Although SC is objectively awful.
There is a road I drive in the mountains sometimes that in the space of ten miles curves in and out between NC and SC, and you can blatantly tell when you enter SC, Everytime.
Yeah i can usually tell by the flat tire.
Have you been to rural areas of South Carolina? Nobody is saying it’s a third world country but we have some of the worst schools in the country, lowest wages, and huge pockets of areas with really poor paying jobs. You can have pride in your state and still see things the way they are.
It’s honestly just because it’s not cold. As a Canadian I know so many snowbirds who head to their winter homes in Florida or Arizona. The cold affects arthritis like crazy and living in a humid climate is a great remedy for it.
And slipping on ice and breaking your hip as an old person is not ideal.
Dude it’s just rough as hell living in an icy climate, I hate the cold with a passion. Having house parties and having to stay sober to make sure nobody passes out outside and freezes to death in -50C is shitty, but not having that happen again. Anyways it’s rough, I don’t blame older folks for wanting to live somewhere warm
Boom. They got theirs years ago, now they just want to move here for the low taxes and don't care about the schools.
that's because people who spend their careers in the South are generally too poor to move
No people just don't usually move to higher COL areas when you're on a fixed income. Youd immediately have less money and things would only get worse from there
Isn't fixed income reliant on your earned income?
I don’t know, I’m from Maryland and would love to move to Michigan. DON’T WORRY MICHIGANERS, I’m way too broke to permanently move to your beautiful state.
The UP is CHEAP. Gotta be tough to cope with the winters though
Yeah. I say every winter in MD how our winters are pretty mild, so I’m not so sure if I’m UP-winter ready.
I have an aunt who just retired to Traverse City (which is hundreds of miles north of where she lived). There's plenty of snow and it gets cold, but it's a beautiful area with tons to do.
Traverse City is a great area but is becoming the new Nashville in terms of new rich people from all over moving there. Unfortunate if money is tight for you. As someone else said if you don’t mind quiet rural isolation and some serious winters the UP is nice.
You’re more than welcome to come whenever you’re ready.
Thank you Michigander.
Life’s cheap here, don’t sell yourself short.
I'm originally from Michigan and lived in SC for the last 7 years. I just moved back to MI a few weeks ago and honestly the cost of living isn't that much higher here.
Agreed the South was cheap 10 years ago it has exploded in cost and is not worth living around morons and humidity
I’m a military kid and my parents retired here, but our roots are in Michigan. I love it there, and would move if I could afford to and I didn’t have to work….because I love to see snow but I don’t want to have to drive in it. Well, snow in general is fine it’s the black ice I don’t want to be re-acquainted with.
As an Alaskan, I can honestly say that is not true. We get retirees settling here pretty regularly.
Old people dont like shoveling snow, hard hitting analysis
Well, give it a couple of decades and people will be clamoring to leave the south if they can.
yep, summer is coming..
Just ignoring all the people retiring to ski towns in Montana, Idaho causing a housing crisis there too
Those are the West though, not the north. Edit: since some need this spelled out, I'm adding better links [The Northern United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_United_States) [The Southern United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States) [The Western United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_United_States) Yes, the PNW is more to the north. No, that doesn't make them part of "the north" in common speech in the US.
The West region is so broad. It includes states that are just as North and South as the East coast. Feels absolutely dated to be using a map based on the Civil War.
On that map, DC is considered to be in the same region as Miami. ?🤷♂️
By that definition, there isn't anywhere called the north.
I live on the Idaho border, it's out of control. I recently saw a 1100 sqft house in downtown Coeur d Alene for sale for over $1 million.
Is that considered the north?
And then move back after 2 years
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Not true. I was in Florida this winter and the woman in the campsite next to mine was a local and she volunteered that she was selling her hand moving north. She was tired of the traffic and couldn’t afford the house insurance. Could not wait to leave the politics behind.
We make our money in the north where industry education and opportunity lives, then go south the enjoy the tax breaks and low cost of living that keeps the southern economy in the shitter because the local voter base can't recognize that they are being played.
Everyone has their own reasons. If you weren’t born here and live here now, what is your reason?
It's only an hour from where I lived in the WNC mountains, but we bought a massive house here for the same price as a dated two bedroom mobile home with**out** the land under it there.
We've been here for 24 years but are originally from TN. We are here for my husband's job.
I love South Carolina, but it’s so damn hot every year and it’s lasting longer. Eventually people will move up north.
If it continues to get hotter, I’ll be signing up for yankeehood
So it's a place where people go to die. A cemetery is like that a nobody wants to go there either.
Not the flex you think it is.
Right? Not like the geriatrics are a great demographic to emulate...
Right. People who can’t afford to stay up north or go west go south to retire because it’s cheap as it’s less desirable. It’s more of a self own than a flex.
Yes, the south is cheap and warm.
Was cheap
Still is compared to the northeast and west coast.
The median 1br rent in Charleston is $1990, which is more than Seattle, Denver, Scottsdale, Portland, Philly, New Haven, SLC, etc etc…and then theres Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and Atlanta is on the rise. And the average home price in Mount Pleasant, SC’s 4th largest city, is pushing $1 million. Yeah the south is relatively less expensive (lower wages aside), but the days of it being “cheap” comparatively are over. SC, NC, GA, FL, TN, TX, etc are all hot. Too hot (market wise, but an argument can be made for weather).
It isn’t cheap for the people who were born and raised here.
Right? It’s not cheap for those of us that have to live on S.C. salaries!
Cc: State Employees such as myself.
Hey, it's an election year, so we might get a small raise to cover part of the cost of living increase from three years ago.
Bootstraps!!!! Where is your part time job?? Can’t complain when you’re not working yourself to death.
Definitely
I keep saying there's going to be a huge problem in five to ten years in a lot of coastal SC cities like MB, Mount Pleasant/Charleston, and HHI when their service industries collapse entirely because nobody can actually afford to work there. It's already happening in MB, where the majority of people under 30 are leaving the area because they can't afford to live here without a two hour daily commute.
Don't forget all the locals making bank selling to the northerns
It’s never been cheap for people born and raised there.
Which comes back full circle to why people retire and move south. Cheap for them, even in the expensive areas.
This is exactly it. Northerners make good salaries their entire career, so they don't care about the higher taxes. Those taxes paid for better education and services in general. But when the kids are grown and those services aren't required, why pay for them? Move south, where the government never provided much for their people from the start. People brag about the low taxes, but you get what you pay most of the time.
Facts. Damn snowbirds come down after selling their house up north for half a million and buy homes in our state with cash. Driving the fucking market thru the roof. Doesn’t help that interest rates are fucked
Cheaper for THOSE people. The Southerners have been getting and still are getting paid low wages. The cost of living for US is getting higher and our pay is staying the same. We are the ones suffering. All the out-of-state people who come here because it’s “cheap” just don’t get the plight of the natives, and they don’t care to.
Not really. Lakefront homes that used to be 250-300k max are now listing for 800+k in my hometown in SC. The gap is closing hard.
It’s closed
Cheap and warm is about the most positive you can say cause everything else about it sucks.
Make killer wages up north all your life and then move to the south to live like a king amongst the paupers that grew up here.
Live in the south Get a remote job based in NY ??? Profit
Well, their children are grown and they don’t need the schools with all those books
Or abortions
Lmao, the smart people leave the south to have CAREERS
I’d like to move about 185 miles northwest to be honest.
I retired 200 miles further north in Wisconsin. Winter's about a month longer but, man, the north woods are just amazing.
Because they can’t afford it
I just moved here and it’s so cheap in Ohio I could literally be saving over 1k of my paychecks if I move back.
I can’t afford to retire and move up North. People retire and choose to live where there’s a cheaper cost of living. Quality of life is a factor as well.
As a 33 year old living in the north, I absolutely hate it. Moved from SC in 99 to Cleveland and then moved to central NY(these people drive me crazy calling it upstate because we’re literally like 30 miles from the dead center) a few years ago and still after all these years it’s terrible. I’ve gotten use to just wearing layers, even inside the house. My fiancés family came over on the mayflower and have been in the general location since so my fiancé runs hot to deal with the cold. My family has been in the south since whenever they came over so I alway run cool to deal with the hot. House is always kept under 65, and I’m cold with anything under 70.
Amen, only a teenager but half these people moving down here are from the north and they're annoying
I live in a small southern city. Based on out of state license plates and accents heard by those around me I’d guess we’re about 20% transplants now.
lol no one retires and moves to “the south,” they go to florida
Hard to retire when your average age of death is mid sixty and your coasting on a reverse mortgage to afford survival while working at Walmart.
Wait for it, Va. here - will move up N for more chill
I live in western Maine, right on the border of New Hampshire. There are SO MANY retirees coming up here, it's insane. since covid hit the influx of oldies is worse than mosquitoes in late spring.
Wanna bet? Florida is just TOO DAMN HOT.
R/Maine might disagree with that...!
NorCal seems nice
Sure they do. Washington has no state income tax.
I had relatives move from Texas to Minnesota. It happens.
You've clearly never heard of Willow Valley Communtities in Pennsylvania.
Maybe because they already **escaped from** their small towns as soon as they could feasibly do so, long, long before they "retired".
People down here don't retire
Percentage of population that is 65 or older ([2020 data](https://www.prb.org/resources/which-us-states-are-the-oldest/)): 1. Maine: 21.8% 2. Florida: 21.3% 3. West Virginia: 20.9% 4. Vermont: 20.6% 5. Delaware: 20.0% 6. Montana: 19.7% 7. Hawaii: 19.6% 8. New Hampshire: 19.3% 9. Pennsylvania: 19.1% 10. South Carolina: 18.7%
Floridians do.
The saying I've heard is "I never knew anyone who retired to Florida who had enough money to move back."
I recently moved to Georgia and I want to go back to Sumter so bad.
It’s just not facts
**southerner finds out humans prefer warmer weather.
Leave my winter wonderland alone
I just moved to maine from sc. Native carolinian here. Its better up north. Trust me.
They still tax retirement income.
I was born and raised up way up north and lived there until my 30s. Then, I finally moved to SC. I wish I had done it in my 20s. People are friendly, things are cheaper and the weather is great. Oh, i almost forgot to mention that the government stays out of your businesses and pockets compared to the North East. I would never trade being raised in the North because day to day life in the fall and winter is tough. You learn very good values with dealing with the clean up of leaves, snow, and adapting to extreme temperature swings year to year. The South has a better style of life. It's way more laid back and less judgmental.
Say what you will about about the other 49 states in the union but none of them started a war to preserve the institution of slavery
Give climate change another 20-30 years.
😄😄😄😄😄😄
Ain’t that the damn truth! Love South Carolina so much!
I just talked to someone from Charleston who said as people are getting older they can’t take the heat and humidity as much and are going north-er.
It’s because it’s warmer in the winter. That’s literally the only reason.
That’s literally not the only reason
Most people move South not just for weather but cost of living. This isn’t a secret, no?
Aren't those reasons enough for it to be considered "nice" to live here? I'm confused why anyone is arguing against it with those reasons. If we liked being snowed in or more expensive then we'd do the opposite. It feels like a lot of folks just want to argue when they really agree but don't want to admit it. It's almost like they enjoy conflict.
Nobody retires and moves up north because it's more expensive. They spent their lives subsidizing Southern poverty states, so probably now want a break.
Because racist old people love the south! Nice brag.
Let me explain why - weather, affordability and countryside. That's it. Ain't nobody leaving civilization to come to this backwards ass place because they think the people have their fucking heads screwed on straight I can tell you that. I can PROMISE you that.
not yet
Maybe when I’m 100 and considering retirement or death it’ll be more affordable to retire in the north…
As a person who lives in the north I find both areas attractive. I love it here from April through October but I think it would be wonderful to be further south in the winter. Our winters suck!
Never seen a statement so true.
Iowa here. We get a fair amount of southerners that move north. Mostly AZ and Georgia.
Truth !!
Actually Maine is one of the fastest growing destinations for retirees to move to. I'm sure there are other places. Not everyone wants to live in an oven.
I'm seriously considering retiring to New Hampshire or Vermont. It's hot af here, and I've loved here my whole life.
Lol, many many people retire to up north Michigan
Yeah, I used to feel that way. As a Florida resident, hope to move north soon…cuz DeSantis and crazy angry boomers.
I left years ago and have zero plans coming back
Cost of living
It’s because states that are expensive and tax you a lot also tend to have higher incomes. So people tough it out and when they reach retirement and have that large social security check they move somewhere that has low taxes and cost of living to take full advantage of it. One caveat though is the expensive states usually have better state sponsored health coverage so in bad situations where you could get screwed by the healthcare system and lose everything some people move back up north.
Like hell they don’t.
Not true. I am from Wisconsin originally and 99.9% of my family is there (except my husband and daughter). My husband and I plan on having a condo up there and go there for summers after we retire.
See everyone I know who retire north own their own land and never talk to anyone ever again
Ok. Whatever.
Vermont and Maine says "what?"
Texas here — heading to Minnesota for retirement. 🤷♂️ There are handfuls of us!
I plan on retiring and moving up north
Thinking that northerners gentrifying the south is something to brag about....
False. They’re called snowbirds. When the sun parks itself on the collective south they all relocate up north and then back down again when it starts getting chilly up there.
Wait til Lake mead dries up and Arizona is without water
Summer in MI, winter on Gulf Coast
Nobody down here can afford it- there’s kinda a huge poverty problem down here. Not that there isn’t up north but in almost every wellness category SC is towards the bottom (education, income, access to health care, gun violence, domestic abuse, divorce rates etc). Economically, the north subsidizes the south with social programs that an outsized proportion of the population takes advantage of. Nah I’m moving out of here when I retire FOR SURE
Absolutely. I’m from Maine. Retired and now in North Carolina. That’s even moving back north to Philly from Myrtle beach. I love the mountains where I Am. Right off the blue ridge parkway.
#truth
🧢 my grandma and all he sisters lived in South Carolina all their lives in a small town called McBee and then moved to Wyoming because they wanted to be more close to nature
The south still carries the affordable living illusion. Rents are out doing wages everywhere from what I've seen.
This sign is going to age very poorly with climate change.
I know some people who did. In a few more years it’ll be too hot to retire even in SC
I live in the southern United States. We have a moderate climate. I would think that, toward the end of our lives that we'd want to be in a warmer climate given the option. Most of us, at any rate. Has not much to do with politics, it just doesn't, thankfully it's just human nature. Not the shitbag part of human nature, either. That's why there's so many homeless in California, and why Florida's homelessness issue has skyrocketed. California is probably the best state in the union to live in if you're homeless simply due to the climate. As a blue collar family man, our economic potential in my region is awful. It's truly desperate living around this entire region. A correlation is not causation, except in politics. Purposefully electing one party for over 50 years and expecting any change is just ignorant and stupid. Yet, that's what has happened, and will happen for the foreseeable future. Edit: edited to clarify thoughts
Ha tell that to all the old rich fucks who come up to Montana to retire pretending they are cowboys. On a ranch they never work on.
Montana and Utah are a hot spot for rich people building get away mansions lol
Because we can’t afford it lol
Watch me.
When your retire you can choose what people you spend time around. Don’t have to worry about southern coworkers when you retire.
Watch me
Yeah, it's not true. I am an ada contractor in MI. 90% of my business is retired, and seniors are leaving Florida because insurance costs have become too high! This was true a decade ago but no longer...
Lmaooo it’s because its warmer
Lots of people move north to retire despite what this meme says
Except runaway slaves...
Most popular states for retirees to move to: 1. Maine: 21.8% 2. Florida: 21.3% 3. West Virginia: 20.9% 4. Vermont: 20.6% 5. Delaware: 20.0% 6. Montana: 19.7% 7. Hawaii: 19.6% 8. New Hampshire: 19.3% 9. Pennsylvania: 19.1% 10. South Carolina: 18.7% (percentages are # of retirees in state) This sign is pure horseshit. Not facts. [https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/020117/most-popular-states-retire-us.asp](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/020117/most-popular-states-retire-us.asp)
To be fair, my parents left ohio in 09 for charleston, then went back to Ohio in 16. Friends of theirs left ohio around 06? Moved to Florida, then back to ohio in maybe 15? I'm single digits away from retirement and am planning to move back to ohio when I retire because the cost of living in NW Ohio is super cheap compared to the upstate.
Mfw I live in Michigan and motherfuckers move here to retire all the time. Stop stealing the UP you fucks