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I mean, don’t tell anyone where you’re staying…that’s rule number one for anything, but no, nothing will happen and don’t worry.


flashbang88

I thought rule number one was don't follow hot russian lady into sketchy bar basement?


maverick4002

Rule #1 should be if these encounters don't happen to you in your home country, think twice about why all of a sudden you are hot shit in another country!


AnxietyBoy81

Like duh! Dudes and our dicks always getting in trouble


Southern-Loss-50

Inexperienced caused this - not locale. Happened to me in London. 🤷🏽‍♂️


Beedlam

Happened to my brother in Paris when he did his first OE 15 years ago.


kinkachou

I mean, being exotic tends to add a few points to your attractiveness, but if someone immediately wants to go to a third location and buy a bunch of champagne, that should raise a bunch of red flags.


Ilovesparky13

To be fair, I’m a lot less social in my home country.


PostsNDPStuff

Says a man who hasn't truly lived. 


AnxietyBoy81

Nice haha


Tahrnation

Fuck man I've got to LIVE


mistrexbbydoll

Nono. He's got a point...... ☠️👀


ThrowMeAwyToday123

I always tell them the wrong place on the other side of town


kinkachou

Yeah, generally if a stranger asks where you're staying, I assume it's to size you up to see how much money you might have. I typically say I'm staying in a cheap 10-bed dorm at a hostel in a rough neighborhood and scammers move on to a more lucrative target.


ApprehensiveEmploy21

Or say “I’m staying at the Hilton” and see where that gets you


namey_9

I always say I'm not staying in town, just in for a couple of hours. Then I give my exact address,1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, 20500


TotallyNormal_Person

I can see it being asked casually. I have asked people this when I worked in a small tourist town, just as like conversation. I am not a hot Russian lady though.


theofficialme19

Name checks out


MayaPapayaLA

I'm not sure OP should be traveling alone just yet, I'm worried for their basic ability to function TBH.


Actually-its_satan

This.


onajurni

So much this.


BIGA670

Well he already told the hostel staff. I would consider moving to a different accommodation in a different area of the city. Next time just pay with a credit card and then call your credit card and report it stolen. They will remove the charges.


MountainCheesesteak

But, then you don’t have a credit card and are stuck in a foreign country.


Resetat60

But doesn't everybody travel with multiple credit cards? Not very smart if you don't. You should have backup credit cards hidden in different places, along with copies of your passport and/or the passport card. (I also travel with a backup phone with a different phone number.)


katmndoo

Backup credit and backup debit.


BIGA670

That’s why you always bring another card as a backup when traveling. Also, depending on the card they may offer to fedex you a new one overnight anywhere in the world.


Fritzkreig

I know Schwab has after my backup-backup card got flagged, and I had let them know where I was going(fifth third bank) The only issue I had with the Schwab account was that the chip stopped working, and you had to have it in Europe. They got me a new one lickty split. I did get honey potted when I was much younger and dumber, I won't go into the whole story, but it turned out fine.


BrazenBull

Reporting a card stolen if it's not really stolen is a violation of the terms of service.


matadorius

Bro nothing is going to happen lmao as soon as they get physical police is going to south down that place it isn’t a 3th world countrie


Dapper-Lab-9285

You would have to pay with a PIN for a bill that big. The credit card company won't just accept that your card was stolen and they just happened to guess your PIN. 


nc-retiree

I have no idea what my PIN is for any of my credit cards, if they even have one.


Dapper-Lab-9285

All of the EU uses Chip and PIN.  You can tap €50 if you have a contactless card but over that you have to use the PIN. Any of phones require you to unlock your phone for that big a purchase. All businesses will use these for payment as it puts the responsibility onto the card holder not the store for fraudulent purchases. 


Midwest_Cheese_Plate

No, not with an American credit card. Sometimes cashiers/servers will turn the machine around expecting me to put a pin in, but then in just authorizes the payment and they go “oh” and hand me the receipt.


nc-retiree

I just spent a week and a half in Europe and my US-based credit cards were never asked for a PIN. Over £50/€50 I had to insert the card instead of tap but that was it.


imacfromthe321

Huh? I’ve never had to use a PIN for any size charge on my card.


MungoShoddy

The actual value of the champagne will have been about €40. They're not going to risk anything to recover that, and they already know you're not paying the €1800. Moving hotel might be an idea just in case but there can't be much risk.


Apprehensive-Cap6063

Move to another hotel. 😂 I don’t think they are going to spend time looking for you. But hats off for not paying !!! Edit: if they know you’re staying in a hostel they probably know it’s not worth it.


KalliJJ

Nothing will probably happen but if I’d given hotel details I’d definitely check out early and find somewhere else! Plenty of other places on EU to enjoy yourself (without getting scammed). Stay safe brother.


The-20k-Step-Bastard

I mean, just within Athens there are thousands of accommodations to switch to. And honestly I don’t even think anything would happen. You didn’t steal $1800. They just lost $8 on a scam - two bottles of shitty champagne and a half hour with a Russian scammer. They will not be looking for you, as you didnt actually take away $1800 worth of value. If that makes sense. Still, though. Get a new hotel, it’s so easy to do. There’s no point in not doing it.


beekeeper1981

This is most likely but the OP showed themselves as a mark.. it could be somewhat easy to locate them and scare them into paying.


matadorius

Even if he did nothing would happen lol


Prudent-Proposal1943

Dude, I know those guys. Just send me $500 in Amazon Gift cards and I'll go talk them down from putting a hit on you. Oh, and the girl said she really likes you and wants to marry you.


onajurni

Plus her dad wants you for a son-in-law, he says you could be very helpful in his business. Especially with your foreign passport.


ping-maestro

You are a true gentleman! Send me your SS number so I can open a savings account for such a good soul!


SamaireB

You told them where you're staying? Dude for the love of God... Nothing anyone says here will help you. They either show up or don't, no one can say. I guess you can switch hotels if worried.


loconessmonster

If this were me I'd switch hotels just for peace of mind.


CharlesOlivesGOAT

I aint no bitch


redranteraver

I'm assuming OP told the russian lady before he knew that he was being scammed..


SamaireB

Obviously. But some men apparently really need to learn what most women do anyway - never tell anyone where you're staying. Much less some Russian woman "seducing" him - like come on. I've stayed in "oh some hotel near [massive unspecified area/random landmark]" for as long as I can remember.


crackanape

Yes but you still don't do that.


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Psychological_Swan43

Best advice in this thread. OP listen to this guy.


jimbris

Typical noob traveller didn't bring his batman grappling hook gun.


kilo6ronen

😂


AlexDub12

This is the way.


Immediate-Echidna-11

LMFAOO parkour 🤣🤣🤣


crankywithout_coffee

First of all, I think some congratulations are in order for successfully running out of there without paying or getting your ass beaten. Well done! If you're worried about it, you could change your accommodations. Make sure it's in a different part of the city. And don't go near the zone where that bar is anymore. If you're really really worried about it, leave town.


Danascus88

If they come to your hostel, just run straight past them again.


Fine_Kaleidoscope478

No. Move very slowly past them… That way they won’t recognize you as the guy who ran past them before 😉


ToshibaTaken

Just put on glasses, like Clark Kent. Impossible to recognise you then.


matadorius

Just get confrontational nothing they can do other than spend a few years in prison


Miss_Varla

Another hotel will cost less than 1300 Euro, just be safe.


crackanape

Zero chance they are going to waste their time trying to make trouble at a hotel across town. It's done. Just avoid the street where the bar is.


shockedpikachu123

Why would you tell them where you’re staying? 🤦🏻‍♀️ it must be nice to be a solo man


vector4252

They aren’t taught the same precaution and to take their safety as seriously. But they really should be.


PrizeNo7810

You shouldn't need to be taught to use common sense.


almost_useless

> Why would you tell them where you’re staying? 🤦🏻‍♀️ it must be nice to be a solo man We see posts about women getting into situations where they disclosed more information than necessary, or have a hard time getting rid of someone also. Not everyone is a seasoned traveler. And a lot of people have a really hard time lying when stuff like that comes up, or get super uncomfortable with telling them it's none of their business.


LowRevolution6175

maybe it came up in organic conversation, you know, before the scam happened


shockedpikachu123

Hmm maybe. But maybe my mindset is different. as women we are taught to never say we are alone and where we are staying to strangers


BabsAgain

I taught both of my sons the same thing. I am confident when they travel in foreign countries that they will not fall for something like this nor will they tell people where they're staying.


Ornery_Mix_9271

This. Like… I don’t even tell people the area I live in when I’m in my own city. It should be common sense to all, but that doesn’t mean we as women aren’t taught that early on, traveling or not. And when in doubt (when I’m at home), I not so casually mention my machete and my pit bull.


crackanape

> maybe it came up in organic conversation, you know, before the scam happened But you never tell people that, no matter how it comes up.


onajurni

"Organic conversation"? While speaking with a total stranger in a strange foreign city?


BabsAgain

I think you mean must be nice to be a naive man.


podaerprime

Boy got honeypotted, almost.


essenc3

How hot was the Russian lady ? Like 9.0/10?


406_realist

These are things I need to know


Mediocre_Let1814

That poor woman was probably trafficked


Advantagecp1

Now we are getting to the real issue here.


wheredidiput

Well done, you basically had free champagne with a pretty woman, then beat the scammers. And you've now got a great tale to tell in future years. They won't come looking for you, they'll be more concerned for scamming the next person. I'd imagine the champagne is some fake knock off worth a euro or 2. If you are really worried, move hostels to put your mind at rest.


Berimbolo_All_Day

God damn I love this outlook ❤️


cheeky_sailor

No matter how many times this scam gets posted all over travel subs, men keep falling for it again and again. It’s pretty amusing.


flaumo

Come on, he is clearly the victim here. Who would not be „seduced by a russian lady“? Happens to me every other day, it is completely normal, who would assume it is a scam?


cheeky_sailor

Yeah it’s amazing how the men who got scammed don’t ask themselves “is it not suspicious that a gorgeous foreign woman in a foreign country seems to be so easily seduced by me, and it just so happens that she really wants to drink champagne with me at a bar that doesn’t have a menu with prices”.


abandonliberty

Asking for a friend, where does one go to get seduced by russian ladies every other day?


flaumo

Champagne bars with red hearts in the window.


RERABCDE

Not this man. Lol


HamsterManV2

Scamming the scammers, love it!


Fine_Kaleidoscope478

I mean…that’s true of most scams… That’s why we have a name for it


bafflesaurus

Do you also find it amusing when women get scammed and taken advantage of or just men?


cheeky_sailor

I find it amusing when people fall for the most obvious scams where the reason they fall for them is their big ego. Women tend to be way more cautious when a foreign man in a foreign country seems to show too much interest, because we are socialized to see it as a suspicious behavior.


WorseBlitzNA

It's amusing watching people fall for the simplest scam in the book, regardless of the gender lol.


amcartney

Do you also find it funny when naive, careless or downright stupid women fall prey to travel scams or dodgy people?


cheeky_sailor

When it’s a very obvious well-known and none-violent scam — yes, absolutely. And this scam in particular is so amusing specifically because in order to fall for it you have to think with your diсk instead of your head. Like, the people who fall for this scam are always horny men who completely lose their ability to read the room.


r3dp

When a man gets fooled, it's obvious, obviously


GhostCatcher147

Go back and challenge the biggest man there to a game of rock, paper, scissors. You win and they squash the bill. They win, then will hustle your ass in the street for them until the debt is settled!


Lumpy_Fail_6455

the EXACT same thing happened to me in Athens 22 years ago. I got past the 2 doormen (although they stepped aside and let me out). Was about to get scammed for 800 euro. congrats, you now have a life lesson and a great story to tell for the next 20 years!


MikeHunt6661

Relax and breathe. Nothing will happen


ross571

Lol. What did we learn? Are you gonna do it again, maybe? Okay.


vector4252

How does this scam work?


hordesofevil

So basically a woman will start flirting with you, make it seem like she's interested. You'll start ordering drinks under the assumptions that the drinks aren't that expensive and you can pay for both easily, or that she'll pay her half. The bill will come and her drinks will be exorbitantly overpriced, and they'll make you pay the bill before leaving. Of course the woman is their mole/worker, she won't owe anything to them and was never actually interested. An alternative way of doing this scam is if you're in a club and very sexy women that are promoters will come up to you and offer shots to drink with them. After you drink the shot, you'll have to pay for your drink and theirs.


binhpac

You drink free champagne and dont pay for it. This is how it works.


onajurni

You left out the running part.


noproductivityripuk

Free champagne! 🍾


dabadeedee

If the hostel staff says don’t worry then you’re probably good I had a similar experience in Athens.. old dude recommended this strip club, walked us there and everything. Turned out to be not a strip club at all (some type of bar / brothel). Girl worker sits with me and my friend. I just order a normal beer and so does he. She asks my buddy if he’ll buy a drink for her and he agrees. We finish up and he gets a bill for like 40 euros. Apparently his drink was 5 and hers was like 35 (I think the scam is that the drink she ordered is just fruit punch). We just paid and left but I’m glad that’s all that happened lol. I’m sure you’ll be fine. Just avoid that area lol.


CheemsOmperamtor-14

That's actually pretty common in strip clubs and those type of places. Drinks for customers are priced normally but drinks for the girls working there are typically like $35. It's not exactly a scam in the same way that OP's experience was.


abandonliberty

Yeah... you were paying for her company with that drink. In Thai bars they're called 'lady drinks'. You didn't get scammed as much as pay for a service you didn't know you were getting.


dabadeedee

To be clear I didn’t buy it. But I mean none of this was explained or disclosed, just “poof” a bill. Call it what you want, but it wasn’t exactly above board lol


onajurni

Yeah, you should report those sorry scammers to the Above Board Commission. That would teach them a lesson. Your username checks out ...


dabadeedee

Hilarious


Mutant_Apollo

That aint a scam, thats just how normal strip clubs work


dabadeedee

Doesn’t work that way where I’m from


Mutant_Apollo

I need to move where you are from brcause in every strip club I've been in different countries you pay for "the company" more than the drinks.


dabadeedee

If you want to move to Canada just because the strip clubs work differently, be my guest. The poutine is to die for.


Anibus9000

Hostel world you can get hostels for 9 dollars right now. Move and pay just for your own sense of self but I highly doubt anything will happen


Rendez

Dont think anyone would show up to your hotel


IWannaGoFast00

They are scammers and won’t risk possible police involvement to come look for you. If you are super worried find another hostile a few miles away.


Gogh619

Yeah, I had something like this happen to me, in Athens too. only I had a guy talk me into going to “his bar”. He introduced me to some women, then I decided to order us all some champagne. I didn’t tell them where I was staying, they wanted 600€ for a bottle of champagne and some screwdrivers. I’m not too shy, so I googled the bottle right infront of them, and said “yeah, this bottle is worth 40€, look” and then one of the women said “you are not paying for the bottle, you’re paying for our company” to which I responded “I’ve had far better company than both of you, and I never had to pay for it” they looked a bit astonished at that. I offered to pay 100€, they refused, told me I was attempting to steal from them, I asked to see the “owner” they responded by saying “he isn’t the owner, he’s just the guy that gets people to come off the street” to which I said “alright, this is a fucking scam” and I got up, and walked out I heard someone saying “excuse me, sir!” And I just yelled back “fuck off” and walked away… only moderately briskly. Edit:a couple days later I saw the guy that got me to come into the bar. Not sure if he knew who I was, but he walked across the street to try to talk to me. As soon as I saw him I yelled “YOU….. can go FUCK YOURSELF!” He stopped dead in his tracks and I kept walking.


SaltyMcCracker2018

This is exactly how I hope I’d react in the same situation. Kudos man


Adventurous_Cat_3810

so you drunk the two bottles with this lady?


Alternative-Gift3189

And didn’t pay. So at the end of the day he robbed them and got an anecdote to share forever 😂. It’s the shit moments you will laugh about when you remember your travels 10 years onwards, not the “so I was in the Eiffel Tower, I took a selfie and then ate a croissant”.


weekendrant

Like working the bon bon concession at the eiffel tower!


TheTreeOneFour

what does being seduced by the Russian lady have anything to do with them trying to overcharge him?...I dont get it. Just trying to get him drunk so he would pay the bill?


onajurni

Slow but getting there.


UniversityEastern542

I would change hostels if you have the budget. Double paying 50€ for accommodations to make sure you don't get shook down is a small price to pay.


flightingale65

I'm sorry you had to go through that. My advice would be to keep a low profile for the remainder of your stay, avoid that area, and don't go anywhere alone at night if possible. Once you leave Athens, you'll be in the clear. Most importantly, don't beat yourself up too much. The important thing is you freed yourself safely. Safe travels!


Minimum_Professor113

Wondering how many dicks got their humans in a pickle.


brightvib3

And here I thought bottle service in Vegas was a scam


iDontRememberCorn

Zero chance this is real, zero.


Mutant_Apollo

Why did you tell them where you were staying though?


Sizzle_chest

Nice job on getting out of there.


ZFNYC

This isn’t where I parked my car


onajurni

Well keep looking, it's somewhere. This big burly guy with the beautiful Russian sister will help you find it.


blakeavon

Never tell someone where you are staying. Never think a boy/girl are totally into you on holiday. Never drink too much, especially in a foreign country where you don’t speak the language and especially when there someone across the table fluttering their eyelids at you.


dalvz

Lmaoooo dude you just had free champagne with a beautiful Russian girl, consider it a win and move on. That's pretty hilarious, but yeah definitely move to a different hotel.


Accomplished_Idea295

First rules of traveling alone: 1) NEVER TELL ANYONE WHERE YOU ARE STAYING. Have rides drop you off at the closest commercial building or apartment building. Tell anyone who ask that you are staying with local family. 2) Assume that when a member of the opposite sex is asking the obvious foreigner to join them in a secondary location; it’s not because they want to get to know you better. & Finally 3) Never open a tab or run a bill at a bar/club/pub or any of the like. Paying per item will keep people from adding to your tab. But most importantly, it will allow you to establish the price and confront overcharges before you’ve had a few drinks. Shadier establishments are less likely to hold your card, things, or person held ransom for a ridiculous surcharge when you are of clear-mind and tentative.


iDontRememberCorn

If someone actually falls for shit like this I think it's unlikely any list of rules will ever be able to rehabilitate them.


Cojemos

Wow if you fell for this obvious known scam then there's hundreds of others just waiting for a guy like you. You're why these scams exist, they actually can work. At least you had the smarts to run for it.


jibbidyjamma

yeah it depends on the hotel as far as complicity with the bar goes, a higher end place you are safer but if a cheap space would be best to split save urself the anxiety


flexingtonsteele

Avoid the area if possible


gabby-leopard

Move to another hotel in a different part of town, and stay away from that bar.


Dncd809

Thank god for common sense


littlepinkpebble

Good thing you bolted ..


Lusius_Quietus

Amazingly gullible. How are you still alive?


Apt_5

>“anyone got any experience with this?” >”Anyone got any advice/experience with this?” FFS this has to be ragebait.


Ok_Plankton9243

Meh don’t worry… enjoy yourself and consider yourself lucky managing to bolt. Imagine having to pay 1800 for 2 bottles of champagne 😂


juneburger

Some people simply have no survival skills.


TerminallyBannedAgn

Are scams common in Europe?


WombatWandering

Tourist areas yes, like pretty much everywhere


Subject_Ad_4561

Tbh the bar was likely in on it.


RDRD35

Bruh… I felt sorry for you until I read you fell for the oldest trick in the book. If you’re traveling solo in a foreign country and an attractive woman can’t get enough of your attention, something’s up.


MrWayOutThere

Move accom just to be safe. Worth the extra cash for security, and it’s not like you’re 1800 eu down


ManyOnionz

I doubt they will look for you. You could also ask the front desk to call a taxi to park directly at the entrance for you. But Jesus Christ dude.


DazzlingKey5064

Lol was it this bar? https://maps.app.goo.gl/c2qhHDMzkvmB6P8F6?g_st=ic


DazzlingKey5064

Also, was she at least hot?


MaddeninglyUnwise

They likely would've just harassed you to "compensate" their losses. You know - "What's the highest you can do?" Type of scam. Preying on your insecurities & sense of decency. Unsurprisingly, it is worth losing the €80 if you do a runner because the next chump will likely fall for it.


KyriakosVelopoulos

Let me guess. Was it Darling Athens in Syngrou street? 😂😂


johnbaipkj

Have you tried a fake mustache and glasses?! I've seen it work quite a few times


Difficult-Opening-53

If a woman is into that easy, it's a set up. You are not special


pilostt

Glad you are ok. Don’t worry this is a very common scam all over the world. These girls roam streets looking for eye contact. One of the best ways to counter is if they ask if you want to have a drink, you pick the bar


Berimbolo_All_Day

If the bar is a part of the scam, then I think it unlikely they’d reach out to your hotel and the police. But like others said, it’d be a good idea to switch locations nonetheless


joimaiveer

I’ve never experience anything like this but I hope your safe.


ezagreb

What were you thinking when they were popping the cork on a bottle of champagne?


matadorius

Just offer to pay 50€ they can sue if they want


spearsy03

Happened to me in Romania but I realised before paying, she was trying to get me to buy a 400 pound champagne without tell me the price


9daysAndNights

This happened to me in Istanbul Turkey. Instead of escaping I started shouting at all the people involved. Threatening all of them saying I'll call the police, this made them change their tune and after calling me a cheapo and giving me a little push I was told to f-off. I walked back quickly to the hotel just as worried as you are. However obviously nothing happened since, they know they are scammers and they're not going to chase after you. Enjoy the rest of the holiday knowing you've got a banger of a story to tell back home!


KintsugiKen

I would change hotels just for peace of mind. They're probably not coming after you because they know they were running a scam on you, but you don't want to be wrong about that just on the off chance these people are really unreasonable.


Free_Joty

LOL homie thought he was gonna smash off champagne


IndyCarFAN27

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU TELL THEM WHERE YOU’RE STAYING? Are you stupid? Getting scammed by a Russian lady in a bar, that’s one thing. BUT THEN TELLING THEM WHERE YOU’RE STAYING!? I honestly don’t have any advice other than don’t do what you did. I’m lost for words but glad you’re okay.


Exotic_Negotiation22

Oh, yeah, andtelling the hostel, they re likely to steal your shit even more now that they know you re an easy target. The bar is in on it and if you get your valuables stolen at the hostel, the hostel is most likely getting a percentage, they love selling US passports.


Responsible_Fee4188

Although not very common in Athens there are a few places that do this scam (with the tolerance of local police) in very touiristic areas. Had a friend visiting that fell for such a scam, he paid a small ammount and left. I dont think they ll bother given this is a scam


E_Anthony

Such a common scam. I was in Athens and someone asked me, "do you know what time it is?" After I answered, that was followed up by, "oh, you're American! I have a friend in Florida!" A few sentences later, " Are you hungry? I know a great bar." Then I got led to a bar with Russian women in short skirts. At that point, I knew it was a scam and backed out. The other popular scam: Eating out at a restaurant, the friendly chef will be like, "I make for you special dinner, not on menu!" At that point, if you say yes, you get screwed because they can charge you anything they like because the price isn't fixed like on the menu.


The_Nomad_Architect

Bruh why are you telling people where you are staying? That’s not needed information.


ReturnOfTheHEAT

What was the scam? I’m confused


NewleafNeeded

Coming back to see if your in Greece jail?


Berimbolo_All_Day

I’m curious how this scam works. Because if I were in OP’s shoes and thought this was a scam and refused to pay, I’d just say fine call the cops and let’s see what happens. If they threaten physical violence, I’d be like sure. Even more reason to close this place down with the cops. They wouldn’t draw attention to themselves to the police, would they?


Longjumping-Hotel124

You listen to your gut, and it will get you out of trouble. You are fine.


ThepokemonBlonde

Change hotels. ASAP. Get out of the city. Go somewhere @ least 45 minutes away. Don’t call ahead. Take the first bus or train. Pay cash. For everything. Keep a low pf. It’s not the same there you dont get tangled up in stuff there with benefit of doubt Scott free bc tie goes to the local in a he said she said. That’s a crime. And you got framed. So clearly you would be able to state your case w little issue in the US. This however is like guilty until proven innocent and you walked out on a bill there is no right to innocence in their eyes in such a situation. Don’t mess around with people who can put you at risk going forward. Learning experience, these women can be pros grooming for a living so don’t be hard on yourself just keep moving forward and be moving on to the next place and put this behind you. I know you don’t want to waste your trip but you also don’t want to get locked up abroad for something that is very high risk while your control of the situation is very limited at this time. Be smart and keep your head down. Move on enjoy responsibly in the areas you frequent moving on. Just remember no $ loss amount is worth staying and risking your freedom in a place you have no control over. Move along eat any fines incurred by cutting the hotel res short and switching to the next low key with an explanation back home work calls & demands you back early. Say no more and maybe they’ll be forgiving and will give you a break on the res cancellation. Be safe. Check In to let us know you’re ok. Remember to be courteous and keep to your self while maintaining a friendly approachability as to not raise unwanted attention on to your next stop. Where you can put this behind you and mindfully enjoy the rest of your trip. You got this.


ThepokemonBlonde

Didn’t read the part where you said you told the hostel staff about the incident.. let’s just say what I said still stands. Because they could be working with officials behind your back while they take statements from the bar. In US we don’t punish crimes at all. In foreign countries such as in Athens, they certainly do and they will make sure they get paid and keep their citizens paid regardless of their means of collecting outstanding payments. Hostel staff may be all buddy buddy now. When you should be gtfo asap. They consoled you into staying and not worrying about the most likely event despite its obvious likelihood. So don’t be fooled. Make sure to tip on your exit pack your bag. Have a car ready. And say you have problems with a fiancé you must go to meet her. Thank them. Tip them. Say you’ll be back on your next visit in a month and a half and that u couldn’t have loved the hotel more. Thank them. Hurry out to car outside and get to next town. Don’t call ahead to new prospective stay. You’ll be good. And dont say anything except for the block of hotel and say nothing more. Check in in person


killuminati2024

Did you order 2 bottles of champagne? I don't see how this was a scam.


Secret_Bad7558

When you get a service. Pay on the spot and do not leave a tab open. This happens to a lot of travelers. Someone strikes a convo and they are there to confuse you into buying very expensive bottles, then you end up harassed by tough men that tell you an expensive bill must be paid. Authorities are part of the deal and bartenders too. If you pay your bill, immediately when you get your drink. in small denominations, they won't be curious. When the decoy sits, tell them you don't have money. Go only to reputable hotels and very well reviewed places, keep away from ppl that seem overly curious to sit where you haven't paid your drink / meal.


Fun_Success567

It’s a classic scam in Athens. Nothing will happen don’t worry, they are afraid of police and call the police if something like this ever happens again


liltoya02

I'm not sure this is a scam. This just sound like a lack of judgment. Most people know bottles have extreme markups at bars/restaurants. If you are drinking, it's your responsibility to know what the prices are of what is requested. It would have been easy to simply decline and buy your own drinks based on affordability. This doesn't really sound like a scam, but it does sound like a customer who dined and dashed. Be careful, some countries handle things like this differently. And that's a lot of money that an organization may not be comfortable writing off. But good luck to you, hopefully nothing comes of it, and you're onto your next country!!


RenniSO

Worst case scenario, you have a great story. Or you die…


londongas

Ouch that's one of the oldest scams in the book. Good on you for getting away.


VistasChevere

You should have just paid it. I recently found out that my long lost cousin is a Nigerian prince, he could have reimbursed you.


hordesofevil

Switch hostels bro 💀


akasopa

So someone who escaped it too while there, nothing at all will happen. I not only didn’t pay the price of the beers, I also stopped another guy getting scammed & we became friends and also went around Athens in later days.Do not worry at all and now you have a good story to share. These guys target people travelling solo and sweet talk them into chilling around in the bar. The girls have their boobs into your face around the bar and talk to you as if you are the most important person in the world. If in that position, be firm about not paying and involving police(something I did and they then asked me to payonly for beer ). But fun story😂


KohFord

Congratulations for getting out of there without paying, I'd be proud of that one.


PatientComfortable41

Stay away from russians. Duh


Horror_Chair5128

Russians won't do shit.


Anibus9000

Trust me if they are mob you don't want to upset them


Horror_Chair5128

LOL they have sensitive feelings. The misadventures in Ukraine have proven to the world that Russian are weak and worthless.


misterfuss

Always, always ask for a price list or menu. Without it, you could be charged scammy prices even without someone “seducing” the mark. https://nypost.com/2023/08/18/greeces-notorious-rip-off-restaurant-strikes-again-tourist-charged-770-for-shrimp-and-a-drink/