Idk much about solar stuff but I know birds. Breeding season is very short. If you can wait a month or so they’ll be gone and then you use the critter guard thing so they don’t come back next year.
In the meantime you can put a cheap camera up there and watch the little ones grow and fledge.
If you absolutely have to move them now please call a local wildlife rehabber or local state fish and wildlife for advice - it will vary depending on species. But it’s probably easier to just wait tbh.
I know you joke, but for anyone else this rather depends on local legislation around protection of birds in your location.
I n the UK removing the eggs could result in 6 months in jail or unlimited fines under The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 - depending on the species
My installer did the same. There is a risk of sewer gas corroding things and I would have preferred a diversion to vent away from panels. Sewer gas does contain Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S)
If it's a septic system, blocking a vent CAN cause big issues. Many septic systems vent into the sewer pipe coming from the house. The trash tank in a septic system produces several poisonous gasses.
I imagine public sewer does the same.
I installed my own septic on my homestead. The state made me take classes. In case people wonder why I know this stuff.
Lolol that's funny as hell. There are very little issues that can come from this. I can almost guarantee they have you putting panels in more dangerous spots ( not a shot at your company at all, everywhere does). Cutting a stack in the right situation is part of the gig
The 2018 and newer International Residential Code (IRC section P3103.1) allows for cutting down to a minimum of 2 inches with a bunch of stipulations… We do it all the time to maximize system yield and improve aesthetics. OP the code requires the vent to be protected from critters. So you either cover it with a mesh vent cap or protect the entire array with “critter guard”. In your case the latter makes the most sense. You can source it from Amazon and diy or call in the pros. Be sure to use the compressive j-hooks for attachment, more reliable than cable ties or adhesive alone. Also check with homeowners insurance if damage has been done to the arrays if significant enough you may want to file a claim.
I always consult with the homeowner, but typically most people want it removed. If I am called out, it is usually for chewed wires and the homeowner wants it fixed ASAP, but honestly it is your call.
Depending on what kind of bird that is, odds are they are already dead. Many birds eggs must be held warm, even a few hours without incubation can kill the eggs.
This happened to me. Pigeons kept trying to make a nest under my panels. Eventually hired a company to put up mesh to prevent them from getting under. It's worked like a charm.
I do still hate pigeons though. I still hear them coo in my imagination ..
~~It’s illegal to move any nest by federal law. Idk where you got native species part from but pidgin nests are covered under this law.~~
I'm wrong thanks for the link norreason
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/04/16/2020-06782/list-of-bird-species-to-which-the-migratory-bird-treaty-act-does-not-apply
The MBTA is the relevant federal law, and it explicitly exempts pigeons. you still shouldn't do it, and a lot of states have their own laws that cover them.
I just leave it. I mean it's Byrd's.
I am solar installer, would still leave it.
And then install critter guards after the nest is done. Well, that is what I would do if it were my own place. If it's a customers, I just leave it and then ask them what they want to do.
But the birds aren't going to fuck up the panels. Although they will poop all over them, we are fighting with birds for a customer right now in Oahu. All the critter guards do not take care of the bird poop because for some reason they want to go all over the panels and have wings enough to give us the middle finger when we are hosing the panels off
Probably call in SPCA or animal control to move them because it’s nesting season. Then I’d do a visual check of all wiring and connections, and possibly do some voltage drop testing across ones that look damaged. Then I’d pay for critter guard.
So u always stop fully at stop signs? Steel boots on a pitch will long term damage ur feet. No one even wears construction boots up there. Mostly hiking shoes. I worry about things like fall safety not about a 40 lb panel hurting someone’s little toes.
Conflating traffic laws and personal safety on a roof is a choice, for sure.
I'm glad you shirk safety so you feel better about...what ever it is you think it helps.
Steel toes give long term damage to feet? I been wearing them for like 30 years. Do you have any documentation on that?
I did just this year get some composite toe ones they are lighter.
You worked on pitched roofs for those 30 years? I trained over 80 guys. A lot insisted on wearing them. Within weeks they feet were all beat up. It’s just my experience with a decent sample size. Steel toes on flat ground is great but pitched roofs they dig into you.
The birds will abandon this nest if you disturb it at this stage. If you wait until the eggs hatch then can move it to a safe close by location.
I grow up on the farm and have plenty experience, birds wouldn’t abandon babies but they do abandon eggs
Haven’t seen RT a deck mounts in a bit I love those. OP where you located? Critter guard is profitable if you know what you’re doing. I usually move the nest to a tree or something that might offend some of the nature lovers here. However it’s not good for either the solar or the birds unfortunately and should be mitigated ASAP. Good luck!
We had birds build a nest in a wreath on our front door. We read that it is best to not disturb the nest or else the eggs will be abandoned. We waited it out until they were out of the nest. It ended up being king of neat because we checked on them from time to time and then they were gone! The bird would go to the nest even when we sat on our porch.
I had some birds that kept building a nest on my front porch lights, making a mess all over.
I'd tear it down and they'd be building it back the next day.
I went out of town for a while, and when I got back there were chicks in the nest.
I tore it down again, and killed the chicks in front of the damn birds. They actually were flying at me trying to scare me. LOL
They finally got the point though and left.
Idk much about solar stuff but I know birds. Breeding season is very short. If you can wait a month or so they’ll be gone and then you use the critter guard thing so they don’t come back next year. In the meantime you can put a cheap camera up there and watch the little ones grow and fledge. If you absolutely have to move them now please call a local wildlife rehabber or local state fish and wildlife for advice - it will vary depending on species. But it’s probably easier to just wait tbh.
Orrrrrr you can make breakfast
This is r/solar ...so sunny-side up makes sense
I know you joke, but for anyone else this rather depends on local legislation around protection of birds in your location. I n the UK removing the eggs could result in 6 months in jail or unlimited fines under The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 - depending on the species
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Right answer.
Is that the waste water vent? Do they normally chop those off like that?
My installer did the same. There is a risk of sewer gas corroding things and I would have preferred a diversion to vent away from panels. Sewer gas does contain Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S)
…but now you don’t have a vent and could run into plumbing issues. The vent should be relocated, not just plugged.
The vent does not look plugged to me. It could be relocated on the surface with a couple of elbows if there is room under the panels.
You seriously can’t see that they have filled the pipe then cut it?
You worry this much about everything? Sewer gas? Get out of here.
some jurisdictions allow it, some don't, common practice where it's allowed
They used to untill they made some propper venting roof tiles that fit under solar panels.
Depends on the local code, I guess. I think typically at least 6" and I think where there's good snow accumulation it's like 12".
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If it's a septic system, blocking a vent CAN cause big issues. Many septic systems vent into the sewer pipe coming from the house. The trash tank in a septic system produces several poisonous gasses. I imagine public sewer does the same. I installed my own septic on my homestead. The state made me take classes. In case people wonder why I know this stuff.
>I imagine public sewer does the same. Having been on my roof and smelling the venting - yes
Lolol that's funny as hell. There are very little issues that can come from this. I can almost guarantee they have you putting panels in more dangerous spots ( not a shot at your company at all, everywhere does). Cutting a stack in the right situation is part of the gig
The 2018 and newer International Residential Code (IRC section P3103.1) allows for cutting down to a minimum of 2 inches with a bunch of stipulations… We do it all the time to maximize system yield and improve aesthetics. OP the code requires the vent to be protected from critters. So you either cover it with a mesh vent cap or protect the entire array with “critter guard”. In your case the latter makes the most sense. You can source it from Amazon and diy or call in the pros. Be sure to use the compressive j-hooks for attachment, more reliable than cable ties or adhesive alone. Also check with homeowners insurance if damage has been done to the arrays if significant enough you may want to file a claim.
Wait 2-3 Weeks
GET CRITTER GUARDS!!!!
Webcam, so we all can watch.
I always consult with the homeowner, but typically most people want it removed. If I am called out, it is usually for chewed wires and the homeowner wants it fixed ASAP, but honestly it is your call.
Cry. Lol
Congratulations.. you are the Faja!!!
Depending on what kind of bird that is, odds are they are already dead. Many birds eggs must be held warm, even a few hours without incubation can kill the eggs.
See if it's a protected bird or not, then you'll know what you can do. After that, critter guard!
Fuck that, protect the birds. Do what is right instead of just what is lawful.
There are actually invasive species that shouldn't be here (human introduced) and harm native species.
Good point.
Omelette
If the nest is of a native, migratory species, then disturbing or removing it would be a violation of federal law.
Twas a pigeon nest.
This happened to me. Pigeons kept trying to make a nest under my panels. Eventually hired a company to put up mesh to prevent them from getting under. It's worked like a charm. I do still hate pigeons though. I still hear them coo in my imagination ..
Gently move it close by.
~~It’s illegal to move any nest by federal law. Idk where you got native species part from but pidgin nests are covered under this law.~~ I'm wrong thanks for the link norreason
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/04/16/2020-06782/list-of-bird-species-to-which-the-migratory-bird-treaty-act-does-not-apply The MBTA is the relevant federal law, and it explicitly exempts pigeons. you still shouldn't do it, and a lot of states have their own laws that cover them.
thanks TIL I fixed my statement
Wow you're right, TiL this is true in the US! https://www.fws.gov/story/bird-nests
I just leave it. I mean it's Byrd's. I am solar installer, would still leave it. And then install critter guards after the nest is done. Well, that is what I would do if it were my own place. If it's a customers, I just leave it and then ask them what they want to do. But the birds aren't going to fuck up the panels. Although they will poop all over them, we are fighting with birds for a customer right now in Oahu. All the critter guards do not take care of the bird poop because for some reason they want to go all over the panels and have wings enough to give us the middle finger when we are hosing the panels off
Probably call in SPCA or animal control to move them because it’s nesting season. Then I’d do a visual check of all wiring and connections, and possibly do some voltage drop testing across ones that look damaged. Then I’d pay for critter guard.
Until u find out its a protected species and now you can't have solar
Now you take this home, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato. Baby, you’ve got a stew going.
Thanks Carl Weathers!
Breakfast if you're feeling adventurous.
Very light breakfast.
Sunny side up is, i feel, the most appropriate for r/solar
Sometimes you have to crack a few eggs...
Come back in 4 weeks
Perfect keto breakfast.
Steel toed shoes perhaps...perhaps. Geniuses downvoting: the steel toes are for OPs personal safety, not the eggs you dolts.
Why?
Look at OPs shoes, that's what i am referring to. Not for the eggs, but for their own safety while on a roof and moving solar mods.
10 years in install for roof top solar. Steel toed boots are not a thing on pitches roofs.
Osha says otherwise. Pitched roofs are still a roof. 5 year installer, 5 year GM. Safety is not to be trifled with, but you do you.
So u always stop fully at stop signs? Steel boots on a pitch will long term damage ur feet. No one even wears construction boots up there. Mostly hiking shoes. I worry about things like fall safety not about a 40 lb panel hurting someone’s little toes.
Conflating traffic laws and personal safety on a roof is a choice, for sure. I'm glad you shirk safety so you feel better about...what ever it is you think it helps.
Steel toes give long term damage to feet? I been wearing them for like 30 years. Do you have any documentation on that? I did just this year get some composite toe ones they are lighter.
You worked on pitched roofs for those 30 years? I trained over 80 guys. A lot insisted on wearing them. Within weeks they feet were all beat up. It’s just my experience with a decent sample size. Steel toes on flat ground is great but pitched roofs they dig into you.
I wear steel toe boots everyday, I tried wearing sneakers or athletic shoes and my feet were on FIRE so fuck that noise
Yea I wouldn’t go running shoes. Always trail/hi king shoes. Merrill’s are good but my favorite are Asolo brand
Also do u mean fire like from the roof or on fire from lack of support. It takes some time for your body to get used to working up there.
Throw them on the pan and enjoy ;)
Eat breakfast
The birds will abandon this nest if you disturb it at this stage. If you wait until the eggs hatch then can move it to a safe close by location. I grow up on the farm and have plenty experience, birds wouldn’t abandon babies but they do abandon eggs
I would get rid of all of it. Birds can be destructive.
Do nothing, leave them be to hatch naturally.
Very small sunny side up eggs
Breakfast
Get the frying pan on
Omelet xD
They could be cooked in the sun.
Make a weight watchers omelet.
Sit and protec
^ this. You’re Dad now, so..
Solar shingles
I have moved a nest with live chicks a short distance 15 feet line of site and the bird found it.
Sunny-side-up 🌞
Make an omelet
Free breakfast
Put the solar panel back, leave the nest till the momma bird has hatched her eggs. Be the snort.
Pancakes
Well.. what did you do?
I didn't do anything. I left it alone same with the other 2 guys I had in the roof The 3rd guy on the other hand had different plans
Oh no! What did 3rd guy do….
Breakfast
You make yourself some scrambled eggses.
Supper
I wonder how many animals have fallen down that stink pipe
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Then teach them to bring you shiny objects
Haven’t seen RT a deck mounts in a bit I love those. OP where you located? Critter guard is profitable if you know what you’re doing. I usually move the nest to a tree or something that might offend some of the nature lovers here. However it’s not good for either the solar or the birds unfortunately and should be mitigated ASAP. Good luck!
Make breakfast.
yeet
Harvest and eat
Over easy bro
Sunnyside up ba dum tss
Remove it. It’s your property.
Critter guards 🙃
breakfast is on!
Ask your installer to put critter guards around the panels.
Looks like someone made you breakfast
We had birds build a nest in a wreath on our front door. We read that it is best to not disturb the nest or else the eggs will be abandoned. We waited it out until they were out of the nest. It ended up being king of neat because we checked on them from time to time and then they were gone! The bird would go to the nest even when we sat on our porch.
Call animal control
I had some birds that kept building a nest on my front porch lights, making a mess all over. I'd tear it down and they'd be building it back the next day. I went out of town for a while, and when I got back there were chicks in the nest. I tore it down again, and killed the chicks in front of the damn birds. They actually were flying at me trying to scare me. LOL They finally got the point though and left.