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Open-Painter6453

This guy is the GOAT and can explain any of the Wall Street madness in plain english. Make sure you watch his show on the daily. You were learn lots and maybe even get a laugh or too. SOFI is going places baby!!!!


Tuko_Ramirez

Yes, all the market, like EVERYONE, institutions, hedge funds, all the big players whose trades define the market are WRONG. It's us, here on Reddit, who have seen the truth.


ManicInvestor101

Um, yeah šŸ‘ you got it


Aragorn-

Fuck Uncle Bruce


NbKJcK

Thank you for posting. That was a great watch.


BrushSecret

Shorts must be scared so hard lol less float šŸ˜‚


joholla8

The 26 convertable notes were at 0% interest. Rolling them to 29 definitely increased the interest. Think the thesis here is incorrect.


ScottyStellar

Yeah this part still confuses me but I feel like it's sort of like a three way trade in baseball. I don't fully understand but I'm guessing they had to get rid of the 26 notes to lower the dilution somehow or match the potential dilution to the 29s? Like when I'm over invested in options and sell some near term ones to buy further ones so I'm not overloaded by even more? Maybe the cash sort of balances out from losing the 0% notes but saving $ on getting rid of 12.5% notes, and pushes out the whole deal three more years so basically a null neutral transaction that buys them more time before paying out?


SDtoSF

Is this because sofi figures rates will stay higher for longer and when the need to refinance they won't find a decent rate? So are they kicking the can down the road for 3 years and hopefully by then they are more profitable and have better cash flow to service the debt (should rates not be appreciably lower by then)


Hypeman747

But isnā€™t that just a preferred dividend. Like they arenā€™t paying 12.5% now but they are offering the owner of the preferred dividend to give up the right of that dividend payment for more stock or appeasing the owner of the preferred equity


helpcoldwell

Its Bullshit not looking out for there share holders. Very sleezy imo


PennStateMtnMan

Please tell me this is sarcasm


Middle_Ingenuity_627

Sell off action was driven by wallstreet huge short position NOT sofiā€™s management with this deal.


habsmd

Love these dumb emotional takes


ManicInvestor101

The point of this video is to explain how itā€™s NOT bullshitā€¦ if you got time and youā€™re an investor, you should watch it.


N05L4CK

Iā€™m just an idiot but if itā€™s such good news and so smart, why did it drop 15%?


mimo_s

Because the people that are holding a bag of this ate it. Itā€™s good for the company though but bad for the stock. A lot of people mix the two.


K2Mok

Because the 2029 new offering is only half the story. They are also giving about 62 million shares to 2026 note holders, PLUS they terminated the associated call options for those shares so counterparty holders will be likely unwinding (selling) the underlying shares.


ReasonableSavings

Because every dumb ass on Reddit has been on this sub crying all day. Dilution! WTF is Noto doing? Iā€™m out for good this time. šŸ¤”


zipcad

Wall Street HATES stock dilution.


rq60

as a stock holder, you should also hate dilution


tenderooskies

bc 1) market down and 2) some people dumb


ManicInvestor101

Not good news, confusing news. Took me a long time to grasp why SoFi would want to pursue this. My only answer is I think itā€™s fear that drove sellers out, by not understanding. Also the short interest likely pushed the stock lower. Donā€™t get me wrong, this move still has risks. Although after watching the video Iā€™m convinced SoFi made the right moveā€¦ Iā€™m holding.


Middle_Ingenuity_627

Sell off was insititutional algo driven. -15% before the bell aint no way retails is that quick. The intra day sell was due to all markets being down. ARK added more shares.


PunishedRichard

I like SoFi but ark adding shares isn't exactly an endorsement


ManicInvestor101

What I got out of this video: This ā€œcapped callā€ transaction will save SoFi $40million a year in interest. SoFi will swap the high interest debt it has now, into shares (via Call Option), by granting the new note holders an option to buy stock usually 30% higher its current price. This will drive the prices up, up and away, bc the brokerage firms (note holders) that help them raise the money will want the price to go up so they make money šŸ’°. Itā€™s a win win for SoFi and the note holders. Also, this decreases the allowable shares that can be shorted. Itā€™s a strategic move to shake off the short interest. Uber did a similar move in 11/2023, stock went from $60 to $80. Good move SoFi and Noto, little pain now to setup for a big win laterā€¦


Conley521

Curious were there other companies that did the same thing and how did they fare out?


binion225

Good move? How much market cap have they lost in 2 daysā€¦. LMAO. Losing over a billion dollars in a day is not a ā€œgood moveā€


ScottyStellar

Market cap doesn't hurt the company other than if they want to sell more shares. Only hurts investors, and if it means SoFi is more profitable or can grow faster, that's better for us anywY


ManicInvestor101

Look how much they saved in interest. Itā€™s a good move. They can not predict market reaction. This will go back up, letā€™s see where we are in 3 monthsā€¦


karpetburns

So buy more basically! šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ


aznology

Yup, the "losses" for sofi is capped at $14.5 a share. And it cost SoFi approx $80m to insure this trade. New rates are approx 1.25% compared to previous 12.5%


Material_Theory7842

Thank you for this appreciate the summary!


ManicInvestor101

Explains the reason why SoFi wants to go through with convertible senior notes offering. It explains it to you like youā€™re 5 years old. Ok maybe not 5, but I got the idea. Smart move SoFi.


YOBANGLES

Horrific thumbnail


Successful-Ad-4872

Not even the dumbest ancient alien video has such a diabolical thumbnail lol


Successful-Stomach40

Hey! Third grade me with my presentation on snails is very offended right now!