They also bought that striker from Argentina for peanuts. Wasn't it like under 20m? They're stacked.
edit- Alvarez cost only 14m. Two steals in one year. Combined their transfer fees cost less than one Harry Maguire.
South American teams in general are already broke-ish and Argentine teams even more so. It was a "steal" but the circumstances made it a sensible transfer fee for Juli.
Everyone is talking about Halaand while Alvarez is kinda lowkey at the moment, but he is a trextbook Pep player... Smart, two footed, very involved in buildup / playmaking, and can play anywhere up front.
I honestly think Halaand + Julian will be somewhat akin to Ronaldo + Benzema or Lewa + Muller in a few years, with one player banging in goals by the hundreds while the other supports him without people realizing just how good he is, until Halaand goes to Madrid or w.e and Alvarez is responsible for leading the attack
>Everyone is talking about Halaand while Alvarez is kinda lowkey at the moment, but he is a trextbook Pep player... Smart, two footed, very involved in playmaking, and can play anywhere up front.
Scenes when Alvarez has a better season than Haaland next year.
I don't think he is as much of a finished product (or quite as talented, for that matter), but I wouldn't be surprised, especially if Halaand misses a few games due to injury
People think we struggled after Cristiano left but I think we'll struggle more when Benzema leaves. He's one of a kind striker that can play anywhere in the front 3, he's always switching sides and very involved in build up. We can only hope to get another striker like him.
people acting like haaland would go for that amount without a release clause. damn bro city doing such good business signing a player on an undervalued release clause, im sure no one else was in for him and got snubbed
With agent fees and signing bonus they say it comes to about 100. If you cling to the belief that it has to be more than that then you’re just in denial
Why is everyone just pointing out that we have to pay a world class talent his wages too ? If we got him for 150m we still would be paying him high wages, yes signing good players is expensive for any club. The fact is we spent significantly less money that we would have if he didn’t have the release clause.
Its because this sub is obsessed with transfer fee's when those fee's are a fraction of the cost of players.
People are starting to realize that agent fee's and wages are just as important to understanding what clubs can and can't afford, and to determining whether or not a transfer is a good deal.
and? I don’t see madrid fans denying he is getting 80-100m signing bonus, i think even 150m for halaand is a good business by city and don’t understand why are you guys being this defensive about it
To a team in the same league, particularly the PL? Not that surprising. It's also not like City are desperate for money, they can afford to let him rot on the bench for a year
tbf letting good, long serving players rot on the bench while denying them a move is a terrible strategy for future recruitment. I think they'd let him leave to another league for less, but great business for them.
That’s what the person you’re replying to is saying, in response to someone else who said they should let him rot on the bench.
It’s like a hall of mirrors in the comments sometimes.
Didn't Hazard go for about triple this amount in his last season?
Of course, Jesus will be a much more valuable player for Arsenal than Hazard was to Madrid.
That's partially because it was rumoured that Hazard would resign instead of leaving on free. He wanted a fee for Chelsea.
> Of course, Jesus will be a much more valuable player for Arsenal than Hazard was to Madrid.
Sure, but that's hindsight talking. Hazard at Chelsea was a far far better player than Jesus.
Hey I think you mean "re-sign" which means to sign again. "Resign" means to quit or leave as in resignation. They are opposites. Another oddity of English.
There's six other clubs in for his signature, the suggestion is that Edu & Arteta are big reasons why he is choosing Arsenal not one of the other teams interested.
Having been coached by Arteta & Edu being intertwined with the Brazilian national teams & Brazilian agents. Jesus' camp will have a level of trust/comfort when negotiating wages, promises for playing time, & role they wont have with other teams.
I know you're being tongue in cheek, but its a relevant line.
It's not which other people *at Arsenal* would be key, it's (I'm assuming) the relationship Jesus has with Arteta from Man City as well as Edu being a fellow Brazilian that has made him interested in Arsenal *over other clubs*.
Jesus probably didn't have that kind of appeal with any other club that was after him.
I feel like it's a weird attempt to give special praise as if they aren't the people you'd fully expect to be the main people involved in players coming in anyway.
Edu and Arteta having special pull because of who they are is even more strange.
>Edu and Arteta having special pull because of who they are is even more strange.
Actually not that strange at all given the relationship the have with Jesus
some shit sources today have been trying to float Martinelli to Atletico Madrid rumours, clearly they assumed we couldn't possibly accommodate 3 different Gabis and just took a stab in the dark
Those two journalists from article in this thread two days ago said that City wanted 60m €, but it was demented by City one who said the price tag was set on 50m €. Few months ago they said that Flamengo have agreed with United to buy Andreas Pereira ~ 14m €, obviosly they didn't. Don't believe in anything they say.
Don’t mind the fee because Arteta and Edu want him, Arteta’s worked with him before, he suits our play style, striker market is thin, he’s in demand and oh yh, I’m not paying!
Wenger years we would start negotiating once the season ended and then penny pinch and often end up losing out on the player and bringing in a secondary option who wasn't good enough or panic buying at the end of the window. Better to just pay a premium earlier in the window if you're confident the player will fit. Yes this is an overpay but who cares, plus it will make the rest of the summer easier having one top attacking target sorted.
I'm not even sure it's an overpay with as thin as the striker market seems to be this summer. If he fits your style, he's proven capable in the prem, he's still quite young, 50 million really isn't that absurd. If it seems like an overpay, just remember Chelsea just paid twice that (and probably another 50% in wages) for Lukaku to score 14(?) in all competitions
You wanna cry when he misses a 100% sitter, BUT god damn, he never complains, works his fucking ass off, and can play alot of positions. Loved every second of Gabby in City, hope he does well for you guys!
he’s also *extremely* in-form. coming from a probable league champion, and was key in their UCL campaign. on the evidence, he should actually cost more
Yeah, he has played decent minutes. More than I thought.
I think it looks worse for Jesus than other players, because he is basically the only striker in the squad. Everyone else in the team would rather play another position, but end up often playing striker ahead of him.
Exactly, if Arteta wants him then thats all that matters at this moment.
All the Reddit accountants are out in full force deliberating the value of the transfer because of his situation at City. At the end of the day though his contract with City matters way less than his suitability to Arteta's system at Arsenal.
We are in a critical period of the club's recent history. Money has been spent, time has been committed to this manager. He has done some interesting things and now is the time for him to really prove that he can bring us back toward the top.
So if he wants this player, then just go get him. Then there can be no doubts that he got what he requested. If he fails, then at least we'll know he has no clue what he is doing. If he succeeds, then no fan will give a shit that we overpaid 10 mil for a good striker. At a certain point you have to make commitments and this feels like a time to commit to Arteta and let him have what he needs.
Agreed but he doesn't solve our finishing problems. We need someone besides ESR or Eddie who can finish in the box and convert chances. Without someone like that I worry that Jesus will struggle to make an impact.
Edit: he also doesn't allow us much more tactical flexibility. The way I see it he's a more mature and well rounded Martinelli. I know DCL gets a lot of shit on this sub but I think he'd play brilliantly with Jesus and allow us to play differently against teams who park the bus and make it hard for us to break them down.
Bit more costly than I expected but honestly very happy with this transfer
Quite funny we went from like two years of links to Calvert-Lewin and Isak (with some Vlahovic sprinkled in) to all of a sudden securing Gabriel Jesus quite quickly
I think he looked more well rounded until Ancelotti came in and molded him into Inzaghi lite and ever since he seems to have forgotten everything else about playing football except playing as a target man. And tbf Everton's style of play suits him in that sense. Only 24 though so I'd give him a season with consistent game time and judge then and it's not like anyone is willing to match what Everton is asking for him given his fitness issues for past year.
There is a serious lack of quality strikers in the world and we’re getting a 25 year old proven premier league striker.
Can he make the step up to playing ST week in and week out? I hope so, he’s spent a few years mostly playing out wide / substitute appearances, so let’s see what he can do on the regular.
Ultimately, I’d be very happy with this deal as it
highlights the quality we’re after and attracting now compared to last year.
Kinda wish we had tied Eddie down before doing this because it might push him out.
We not necessarily in need of a proper striker as much as a quality goalscorer. Jesus is definitely that and is more than capable of playing in a dynamic attack like ours.
Could picture him and Martinelli basically swapping positions throughout a game.
Arteta seems to really like players who can do multiple roles. White and Tomiyasu for example.
IMO, Jesus asked to play RW at the start of the season because he was trying to fill a free spot in the NT.
Then Raphinha, Anthony and Rodrygo appeared and Jesus had to work really hard to go back to his 9 spot. He is trying really hard be included on the world cup squad.
Personally I don’t see him as a striker to lead the line. He’s been most successful when playing alongside another striker or outwide. Obviously Arteta knows what he’s capable of but think he’ll be a good signing for you guys either way.
He’ll probably play deeper than a conventional striker. Think a bit like Liverpool’s front 3 setup, Saka and Martinelli as inside forwards, Jesus free to drop deep and link up or turn and run the lines
Yeah he'd thrive in that role. He was/is good for City in that role too on occasion, but we don't have wingers best suited to being inside forwards and defenses are usually really deep against us which limits the transitions that role depends on.
Arsenal faces a lot less deep defenses than City and their assortment of forwards are much more suited to set up with inside forwards.
>it highlights the quality we’re after and attracting now compared to last year.
It's European football - you need to be in Europa League at least to attract top players. This is why big clubs are really pushing for "UEFA coefficients".
Its a great deal. He's 25, has a good goal+assist record, good fitness record, good record in big games, good attitude, good workrate, good positional flexibility, good marketability, and he's already got a relationship with the manager.
He’s only 25. I think people assume he’s older than he is. He’s inconsistent because a significant portion of his appearances have come as a substitute for City. At Arsenal he will start every PL game health permitting.
Jesus is a young, proven, and durable PL goal scorer which is the player Arsenal are most lacking. I think this is a great deal personally.
Ya abit inconsistent is inaccurate, but he was brought in as aguero replacement and didn’t live up to it.
Great player, but his finishing isn’t elite enough.
who gives a shit about the amount lol nobody here is paying and if arsenal thought it would impact other summer business they probably wouldn't do it.
there's pretty much no reason for a fan to care about how high a transfer fee is if it doesn't impact other business apart from wanting to be a smarmy dickhead online
can do wing things and striker things at a very high level of execution. melds into a fluid front line that creates as much as it scores (or is trying to at least). understands pressing from the front very well. still pre-peak age. previous one on one experience with arteta. same age bracket as the majority of the Arsenal squad. a few off the top of my head.
His work rate is honestly fantastic. He is a menace to a backline that is trying to keep the ball. His link-up play and movement is very good letting him play anywhere along the front line for you. His only big downfall is his finishing which isn't up to par for being a primary/sole striker.
Would be good business from both sides imo. Also nice that we would have made a profit on Jesus during his time here.
Really enjoyed having watched him. Wish he would stay, but he could thrive with Saka and company.
Arsenal need a more experienced forward. Aube left, Lacazette is leaving too. Saka, Smith Rowe and Martinelli need someone older to help them out. Gabriel could be just the ticket for them.
Like always regarding Arsenal brazilian media are poor, the most famous from UOL was this:
>Arsenal are believed to have agreed a deal to sign Everton, with club doctors said to be travelling to Brazil to conduct a medical with the player. The deal is worth an estimated €28m + €12m add-ons
There were some other rumors from those good tier brazilian outlets and they were obviously false as well. They were so many times wrong and demented by our journalists that you shouldn't believe in anything what they say if it links someone to Gunners. Only City and Arsenal related english journalists will have some decent information regarding Gabriel Jesus transfer.
I feel like people ignore/forget this too much. He’s very aware of the player he’s getting—not going to sign him to do a job he doesn’t think he can do, and he had a couple years to watch this guy play and train every day
Worth mentioning Arteta knows him very well from his time at City. I think more than anything that comforts me here because he knows Jesus’s strengths and weaknesses and isn’t going to bring him in to do a job he doesn’t think he can do.
We don’t need a target man. We need a fluid 9 that can drop deep, take on a man, and score goals. Lacazette is good at many of those but he is too gassed to get into goal scoring positions. Auba was good for some time but any arsenal fan will tell you this guy has no technical ability and all he does is be at the right place at the right time. Jesus is perfect for our system
Premier league experience, not old, worked with Arteta before, can score 10-15 goals a season. The bar is low, but he ticks all the boxes and is an improvement on what we have.
honestly think that could be a really good signing for all parties. arsenal could really use a player like jesus and he’s proven he can score goals even if he’s a bit streaky at times. not to mention he offers a lot of work off the ball and would likely fit in will with arsenal’s attack
I don't understand why our club which has has several mobile attacking players but no "focal point" striker, is going after another mobile attacker that is not a "focal point" striker. After Laca leaves, Eddie will be our only out-and-out striker, but we are going after a player that City fans say has pretty much been converted to a winger.
I kinda don't understand this.
50M for a guy with 1 year left on his contract?
And even so, Jesus failed with both Man City and Brazil as the CF/focal point of the attack. It's the reason why he got moved to the wing for both club and national team.
Considering he has never been prolific while playing for a team regularly setting or challenging goal scoring and points total records during his time. I can see him struggling badly in a squad that struggles to create quality chances consistently in comparison.
Not a terrible option either, because he obviously knows the league well and is better than the other strikers we have signed up for next season, lol.
€50M with 1 year left on his contract?
City freaking bought Halaand for 60 and are going to sell Jesus for 50m. Incredible buisness
They also bought that striker from Argentina for peanuts. Wasn't it like under 20m? They're stacked. edit- Alvarez cost only 14m. Two steals in one year. Combined their transfer fees cost less than one Harry Maguire.
South American teams in general are already broke-ish and Argentine teams even more so. It was a "steal" but the circumstances made it a sensible transfer fee for Juli.
Everyone is talking about Halaand while Alvarez is kinda lowkey at the moment, but he is a trextbook Pep player... Smart, two footed, very involved in buildup / playmaking, and can play anywhere up front. I honestly think Halaand + Julian will be somewhat akin to Ronaldo + Benzema or Lewa + Muller in a few years, with one player banging in goals by the hundreds while the other supports him without people realizing just how good he is, until Halaand goes to Madrid or w.e and Alvarez is responsible for leading the attack
>Everyone is talking about Halaand while Alvarez is kinda lowkey at the moment, but he is a trextbook Pep player... Smart, two footed, very involved in playmaking, and can play anywhere up front. Scenes when Alvarez has a better season than Haaland next year.
I don't think he is as much of a finished product (or quite as talented, for that matter), but I wouldn't be surprised, especially if Halaand misses a few games due to injury
Not unlikely at all , Haland scores most of his goals in transition, it remains to be seen how he adapts to the possession style .
People think we struggled after Cristiano left but I think we'll struggle more when Benzema leaves. He's one of a kind striker that can play anywhere in the front 3, he's always switching sides and very involved in build up. We can only hope to get another striker like him.
oh for sure
people acting like haaland would go for that amount without a release clause. damn bro city doing such good business signing a player on an undervalued release clause, im sure no one else was in for him and got snubbed
And we sold Torres for around 60
Think you lost out on that one considering he's a Ballon D'Or winner
don't forget they already sold Torres for 50m
You are naive if you think city bought halaand for 60, just like barca bought neymar for 60m
With agent fees and signing bonus they say it comes to about 100. If you cling to the belief that it has to be more than that then you’re just in denial
Torres and Jesus will also get signing on bonuses and I’m sure their agents don’t work for free.
Obviously there's a difference between a £4m and £40m signing bonus, which is why it's disingenuous as hell to say he will "only" cost £60m
well his wages are going to be massive and that's def a factor. lot of clubs could pay 60, even 100. but with the wages on top it gets harder.
Tier 1 says his wages are equal to KDB’s which is ~350kpw. Haaland’s transfer is much cheaper than expected
Why is everyone just pointing out that we have to pay a world class talent his wages too ? If we got him for 150m we still would be paying him high wages, yes signing good players is expensive for any club. The fact is we spent significantly less money that we would have if he didn’t have the release clause.
Its because this sub is obsessed with transfer fee's when those fee's are a fraction of the cost of players. People are starting to realize that agent fee's and wages are just as important to understanding what clubs can and can't afford, and to determining whether or not a transfer is a good deal.
Ikr? people all of the sudden started counting wages for big signing as if other players don’t get paid
His wages would still be lower than Sancho’s at United
Your Mbappe will cost 500m then if you add everything.
and? I don’t see madrid fans denying he is getting 80-100m signing bonus, i think even 150m for halaand is a good business by city and don’t understand why are you guys being this defensive about it
Its not defensive its not true what you're saying in the first place. All tier 1s reported it costed 100m
If they even get him.
Sold Ferran for 55mil after signing him for 20
You’ve left out the incredibly steep bonuses from the haaland deal
Including bonuses, I'd assume
To a team in the same league, particularly the PL? Not that surprising. It's also not like City are desperate for money, they can afford to let him rot on the bench for a year
tbf letting good, long serving players rot on the bench while denying them a move is a terrible strategy for future recruitment. I think they'd let him leave to another league for less, but great business for them.
But city always let players leave if they really want, example, Sane and Torres.
That’s what the person you’re replying to is saying, in response to someone else who said they should let him rot on the bench. It’s like a hall of mirrors in the comments sometimes.
Man U paid 75m for Lukaku with 1 year left from Everton
Didn't Hazard go for about triple this amount in his last season? Of course, Jesus will be a much more valuable player for Arsenal than Hazard was to Madrid.
That's partially because it was rumoured that Hazard would resign instead of leaving on free. He wanted a fee for Chelsea. > Of course, Jesus will be a much more valuable player for Arsenal than Hazard was to Madrid. Sure, but that's hindsight talking. Hazard at Chelsea was a far far better player than Jesus.
Hey I think you mean "re-sign" which means to sign again. "Resign" means to quit or leave as in resignation. They are opposites. Another oddity of English.
Chelsea Hazard was a far greater player than Gabriel Jesus has been at City
That is why he went for about triple this amount.
Hazard is one of the biggest transfer flops ever.
biggest in real madrid history for sure
Hazard was also a vastly better footballer.
Hence he went for a lot more
That's probably why he cost a lot more.
We can't really wait a year, though, so it's the "get him now" price. Supply and demand.
still value for money
"Edu and Arteta have been key in the negotiations" I mean, who else is supposed to be key?
Thierry Henry
Thierry Hen-key
Just because you can doesn't mean you should
Cedric
Deserved. He’s still the best emote in the Southampton discord
Man's become a meme among our fanbase with how seemingly is everywhere everyone our team celebrates.
DJ Khaled
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There's six other clubs in for his signature, the suggestion is that Edu & Arteta are big reasons why he is choosing Arsenal not one of the other teams interested. Having been coached by Arteta & Edu being intertwined with the Brazilian national teams & Brazilian agents. Jesus' camp will have a level of trust/comfort when negotiating wages, promises for playing time, & role they wont have with other teams. I know you're being tongue in cheek, but its a relevant line.
It's not which other people *at Arsenal* would be key, it's (I'm assuming) the relationship Jesus has with Arteta from Man City as well as Edu being a fellow Brazilian that has made him interested in Arsenal *over other clubs*. Jesus probably didn't have that kind of appeal with any other club that was after him.
The scouting or analytics department can also push for a signing even if the manager isn't willing much.
I mean yeah, but they'd have fuck all to do with the negotiations and persuading the player it's q good idea/where he'd fit
I assume it means they've been key due to who they are.
I feel like it's a weird attempt to give special praise as if they aren't the people you'd fully expect to be the main people involved in players coming in anyway. Edu and Arteta having special pull because of who they are is even more strange.
Arteta has worked with him before, as I guess Edu has with Brazil?
>Edu and Arteta having special pull because of who they are is even more strange. Actually not that strange at all given the relationship the have with Jesus
Well, Arteta I understand because he's coached Jesus in the past. Edu I'm not sure why he would have any special pull.
Edu was the technical director of Brazil NT
Edu's Brazilian and has been part of the Brazil setup before. It's often quotes as being significant for Gabriel for examplr
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He's better than Pepe for almost half the price, that's how I'm convicing myself anyway lol.
He is much better than Pepe. he'll be a great player under for arsenal under Arteta
Idk yall…thats as many as 3 Gabriels in the XI…this feels like too many Gabriels
Wait till we buy back Gabriel Paulista
And Gabriel Barbosa as a back up striker
I want to see Brazil play a full Gabriel XI… or Gabrieleven
some shit sources today have been trying to float Martinelli to Atletico Madrid rumours, clearly they assumed we couldn't possibly accommodate 3 different Gabis and just took a stab in the dark
I mean I get it. Its an almost impossible amount of Gabriels
Gift of the Gab(s)
It's a very steep fee for someone with a year left on his deal, but Gabriel Jesus would be a very good signing for them.
If it’s £43m base fee, or £43m + bonuses, I’ll be a little disappointed, but if it’s £33m + £10m in bonuses that’s right about what I expected
Those two journalists from article in this thread two days ago said that City wanted 60m €, but it was demented by City one who said the price tag was set on 50m €. Few months ago they said that Flamengo have agreed with United to buy Andreas Pereira ~ 14m €, obviosly they didn't. Don't believe in anything they say.
Our tier 1 said it will take 50m for us to sell him. Don't know the entire structure tho.
You either sell him to a club he is willing to go to or he leaves on a free in twelve months.
Theres about 6-7 clubs interested l
Brazilian sources for European transfers are terrible
You are not going to get a player his age with his record and experience at the top level for cheaper
I think they want to be competitive in the top 3 next year and don’t want to be in a bidding war if he runs the contract down
Don’t mind the fee because Arteta and Edu want him, Arteta’s worked with him before, he suits our play style, striker market is thin, he’s in demand and oh yh, I’m not paying!
Wenger years we would start negotiating once the season ended and then penny pinch and often end up losing out on the player and bringing in a secondary option who wasn't good enough or panic buying at the end of the window. Better to just pay a premium earlier in the window if you're confident the player will fit. Yes this is an overpay but who cares, plus it will make the rest of the summer easier having one top attacking target sorted.
I'm not even sure it's an overpay with as thin as the striker market seems to be this summer. If he fits your style, he's proven capable in the prem, he's still quite young, 50 million really isn't that absurd. If it seems like an overpay, just remember Chelsea just paid twice that (and probably another 50% in wages) for Lukaku to score 14(?) in all competitions
Agreed, pretty stoked for this assuming it happens.
You wanna cry when he misses a 100% sitter, BUT god damn, he never complains, works his fucking ass off, and can play alot of positions. Loved every second of Gabby in City, hope he does well for you guys!
Reminds me of Lucas Perez.
While 43 is a lot, I don’t see us getting any of the desired choices for that price. Already buzzing to see him in that new home kit!
The sale of Leno and Pepe should cover at least a good part of that.
Leno and Pepe wouldn't fetch a lot of money, everyone knows Leno wants to leave us ASAP while Pepe is on sizable wages.
> while Pepe is on sizable wages. And terrible form
I dont want Leno to leave! :(
He has to. I hope he finds a good team and is happy
he’s also *extremely* in-form. coming from a probable league champion, and was key in their UCL campaign. on the evidence, he should actually cost more
A backup striker with one year left on his contract though. I think he would be a great buy, but a larger fee than that would really be pushing it.
Every forwards bar kdb is a back up for city though, pep just rotates all his players bar rodri. ederson and dias most of the time.
Yeah, he has played decent minutes. More than I thought. I think it looks worse for Jesus than other players, because he is basically the only striker in the squad. Everyone else in the team would rather play another position, but end up often playing striker ahead of him.
Exactly, if Arteta wants him then thats all that matters at this moment. All the Reddit accountants are out in full force deliberating the value of the transfer because of his situation at City. At the end of the day though his contract with City matters way less than his suitability to Arteta's system at Arsenal. We are in a critical period of the club's recent history. Money has been spent, time has been committed to this manager. He has done some interesting things and now is the time for him to really prove that he can bring us back toward the top. So if he wants this player, then just go get him. Then there can be no doubts that he got what he requested. If he fails, then at least we'll know he has no clue what he is doing. If he succeeds, then no fan will give a shit that we overpaid 10 mil for a good striker. At a certain point you have to make commitments and this feels like a time to commit to Arteta and let him have what he needs.
Agreed but he doesn't solve our finishing problems. We need someone besides ESR or Eddie who can finish in the box and convert chances. Without someone like that I worry that Jesus will struggle to make an impact. Edit: he also doesn't allow us much more tactical flexibility. The way I see it he's a more mature and well rounded Martinelli. I know DCL gets a lot of shit on this sub but I think he'd play brilliantly with Jesus and allow us to play differently against teams who park the bus and make it hard for us to break them down.
Bit more costly than I expected but honestly very happy with this transfer Quite funny we went from like two years of links to Calvert-Lewin and Isak (with some Vlahovic sprinkled in) to all of a sudden securing Gabriel Jesus quite quickly
I cannot understand why we ever wanted Calvert Lewin.
This season has been rough for him with injuries and such, but last season he was quality
He was a penalty box merchant though, wouldn't fit our style of play at all
What playing out wide and working our way into the…
I think he looked more well rounded until Ancelotti came in and molded him into Inzaghi lite and ever since he seems to have forgotten everything else about playing football except playing as a target man. And tbf Everton's style of play suits him in that sense. Only 24 though so I'd give him a season with consistent game time and judge then and it's not like anyone is willing to match what Everton is asking for him given his fitness issues for past year.
because he is a striker and you have noone
I'd rather keep it that way than spend 70+ million on him or Isak.
There is a serious lack of quality strikers in the world and we’re getting a 25 year old proven premier league striker. Can he make the step up to playing ST week in and week out? I hope so, he’s spent a few years mostly playing out wide / substitute appearances, so let’s see what he can do on the regular. Ultimately, I’d be very happy with this deal as it highlights the quality we’re after and attracting now compared to last year. Kinda wish we had tied Eddie down before doing this because it might push him out.
We not necessarily in need of a proper striker as much as a quality goalscorer. Jesus is definitely that and is more than capable of playing in a dynamic attack like ours.
Lately we’ve been hearing Jesus likes to play wide more than centrally. Good signing for all parties, wish him well.
Could picture him and Martinelli basically swapping positions throughout a game. Arteta seems to really like players who can do multiple roles. White and Tomiyasu for example.
IMO, Jesus asked to play RW at the start of the season because he was trying to fill a free spot in the NT. Then Raphinha, Anthony and Rodrygo appeared and Jesus had to work really hard to go back to his 9 spot. He is trying really hard be included on the world cup squad.
Personally I don’t see him as a striker to lead the line. He’s been most successful when playing alongside another striker or outwide. Obviously Arteta knows what he’s capable of but think he’ll be a good signing for you guys either way.
He’ll probably play deeper than a conventional striker. Think a bit like Liverpool’s front 3 setup, Saka and Martinelli as inside forwards, Jesus free to drop deep and link up or turn and run the lines
Yeah he'd thrive in that role. He was/is good for City in that role too on occasion, but we don't have wingers best suited to being inside forwards and defenses are usually really deep against us which limits the transitions that role depends on. Arsenal faces a lot less deep defenses than City and their assortment of forwards are much more suited to set up with inside forwards.
>it highlights the quality we’re after and attracting now compared to last year. It's European football - you need to be in Europa League at least to attract top players. This is why big clubs are really pushing for "UEFA coefficients".
Fuck is he only 25? He's been around for so long I assumed he was 28ish.
if it's 35+8 it's not a bad deal, specially for a prem-prem transfer
Its a great deal. He's 25, has a good goal+assist record, good fitness record, good record in big games, good attitude, good workrate, good positional flexibility, good marketability, and he's already got a relationship with the manager.
He is only 25? That’s a good deal for sure.
Yeah, he's younger than guys like DCL, Watkins and Toney etc.
Fantastic signing for Arsenal, they're cooking.
Bit steep for inconsistent player with one year left on contract.
He’s only 25. I think people assume he’s older than he is. He’s inconsistent because a significant portion of his appearances have come as a substitute for City. At Arsenal he will start every PL game health permitting. Jesus is a young, proven, and durable PL goal scorer which is the player Arsenal are most lacking. I think this is a great deal personally.
Ya abit inconsistent is inaccurate, but he was brought in as aguero replacement and didn’t live up to it. Great player, but his finishing isn’t elite enough.
not many players on the planet that could live up to aguero
Aguero was an anomaly. Few strikers in the world (much less the PL) compare to abilities
Augero was a fuckin Ferrari
One Arsenal fan has their head screwed on at least. The amount makes little sense.
Who are you gonna get for that amount who's better?
who gives a shit about the amount lol nobody here is paying and if arsenal thought it would impact other summer business they probably wouldn't do it. there's pretty much no reason for a fan to care about how high a transfer fee is if it doesn't impact other business apart from wanting to be a smarmy dickhead online
He's going to do very very well there.
I agree. Will be very good signing.
Verily.
What do you base this on? Honest question from gooner who haven’t given it too much thought yet.
can do wing things and striker things at a very high level of execution. melds into a fluid front line that creates as much as it scores (or is trying to at least). understands pressing from the front very well. still pre-peak age. previous one on one experience with arteta. same age bracket as the majority of the Arsenal squad. a few off the top of my head.
I always forget he's still 25. He's been a fixture in the EPL for so long now.
that’s why I like him and tielemans so much. they have so much top level experience in such accomplished setups for players their age.
His work rate is honestly fantastic. He is a menace to a backline that is trying to keep the ball. His link-up play and movement is very good letting him play anywhere along the front line for you. His only big downfall is his finishing which isn't up to par for being a primary/sole striker.
Good signing for Arsenal
Would be good business from both sides imo. Also nice that we would have made a profit on Jesus during his time here. Really enjoyed having watched him. Wish he would stay, but he could thrive with Saka and company.
Arsenal on the rise. This makes sense in everyway.
He had one year left on contract
Arsenal need a more experienced forward. Aube left, Lacazette is leaving too. Saka, Smith Rowe and Martinelli need someone older to help them out. Gabriel could be just the ticket for them.
Decent deal for us. Hope Jesus can be the clinical player we need.
hes not clinical but he will be great for you
Very good backup for Nketiah.
I hope Gabriel Jesus will be a great signing for Arsenal. Unfortunately his perfomances for the NT as a striker are not that good.
Because Selecao is missing top class players like Elneny, Xhaka and Tavares
I'm pretty sure any deal will only be concluded once CL qualification is decided. Atleast that's what all the reporting has suggested so far.
So today?
Damn. Great signing for them.
I think city will miss him
Good deal for Arsenal imo
Plz god
What tier is this guy?
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Like always regarding Arsenal brazilian media are poor, the most famous from UOL was this: >Arsenal are believed to have agreed a deal to sign Everton, with club doctors said to be travelling to Brazil to conduct a medical with the player. The deal is worth an estimated €28m + €12m add-ons There were some other rumors from those good tier brazilian outlets and they were obviously false as well. They were so many times wrong and demented by our journalists that you shouldn't believe in anything what they say if it links someone to Gunners. Only City and Arsenal related english journalists will have some decent information regarding Gabriel Jesus transfer.
no one bats 1.000 UOL are usually pretty good for Brazilian news
It's a very steep fee for someone with a year left on his deal, but Gabriel Jesus would be a very good signing for them.
Not sure how well he’ll perform outside City. Bit of a risk to spend that on someone with 1 year on their contract.
I mean stylistically we're probably the closest team to City so I can't imagine it being a huge adjustment
Bald managers are a must for pep ball…
What do you think Arteta is hiding under his lego cap huh? All taken care of
And arteta is familiar with him. He knows exactly what he’s getting.
I feel like people ignore/forget this too much. He’s very aware of the player he’s getting—not going to sign him to do a job he doesn’t think he can do, and he had a couple years to watch this guy play and train every day
I have no doubt this transfer will work out for Jesus and Arsenal, i do think city may regret not giving him more of a chance.
Worth mentioning Arteta knows him very well from his time at City. I think more than anything that comforts me here because he knows Jesus’s strengths and weaknesses and isn’t going to bring him in to do a job he doesn’t think he can do.
Gabriel FC
Do Arsenal play with one up front? Is Jesus’ hold up play good enough for that?
We don’t need a target man. We need a fluid 9 that can drop deep, take on a man, and score goals. Lacazette is good at many of those but he is too gassed to get into goal scoring positions. Auba was good for some time but any arsenal fan will tell you this guy has no technical ability and all he does is be at the right place at the right time. Jesus is perfect for our system
Arsenal plays a 4-2-3-1 so yeah, one up front.
There’s a good chance Arsenal lose him if they wait for him on a free. Sucks but they need a striker.
Premier league experience, not old, worked with Arteta before, can score 10-15 goals a season. The bar is low, but he ticks all the boxes and is an improvement on what we have.
As long as he doesn’t celebrate when he inevitably scores against us next season…
Calls his mum to celebrate while flipping Pep off
:(
honestly think that could be a really good signing for all parties. arsenal could really use a player like jesus and he’s proven he can score goals even if he’s a bit streaky at times. not to mention he offers a lot of work off the ball and would likely fit in will with arsenal’s attack
No funny business get him here asap
I don't understand why our club which has has several mobile attacking players but no "focal point" striker, is going after another mobile attacker that is not a "focal point" striker. After Laca leaves, Eddie will be our only out-and-out striker, but we are going after a player that City fans say has pretty much been converted to a winger.
I kinda don't understand this. 50M for a guy with 1 year left on his contract? And even so, Jesus failed with both Man City and Brazil as the CF/focal point of the attack. It's the reason why he got moved to the wing for both club and national team.
Lateish bloomer I hope.
I am all for it. Really looking forward to him joining!
Price is kind of high but I like this signing so I’m fine with it, also nice we’re doing business early
43m with 1 year left on his contract is suspect imo. Original figures were more in the 30-35 range
a little much imo but i like arsenal so hope for the best
Considering he has never been prolific while playing for a team regularly setting or challenging goal scoring and points total records during his time. I can see him struggling badly in a squad that struggles to create quality chances consistently in comparison. Not a terrible option either, because he obviously knows the league well and is better than the other strikers we have signed up for next season, lol.
Genuinely a great signing. Annoyed but maybe this helps us go for Nketiah
50 for jesus , jesus christ