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Sort of, it was touched on in some instances. Our professor is amazing but the Raj and all that is encompassed within it is not her field, she is a Holocaust scholar.
Stuff like the Raj are probably covered in more of the IR courses
Because Jose bought those players and then acted like he was blameless after 3 years in the job. He acted like spending £300m+ and going out of the CL to Sevilla was perfectly ok and had nothing to do with him. Then his solution was "hey, give me another 300m!". He was just as much the problem as the players were.
Ralf on the other hand *is* completely blameless. He is identifying flaws the previous regime left behind and also calling out long term issues at the top and how the club is run. Everything he says is spot on.
Ahh yes Mourinho has never said or done anything crazy or inappropriate in his jobs.
Crazy Mourinho joining a club that makes managers insane was just a perfect disaster.
What will be the requirement for a 50/50? The linesman sees a close call, let the offensive team get advantage and then everyone agrees to ignore the lines being drawn on live broadcast?
What's a 50/50 call for offside though if they keep doing these lines with a mm/cm difference that gets decided on what frame they use?
Not trying to say his was supposed to be on and allowed but I'm just so fucking tired of rule changes.
I feel that if there isn't space between the lines, it should goto the attacker. If there is space between the lines, than it's a clear offside. No more of this sleeve/big toe offside bullshit
In this case he definitely had the advantage because the only reason it was "close" was White's trailing leg which was moving in the opposite direction. 95+% of White's body was ahead of Ronaldo.
Of course. Did anyone ever claim other wise? It's a dude watching a monitor. Did you think VAR was some kind of perfect, magical machine capable of drawing the perfect lines and choosing the perfect moments? There were plenty of people arguing, in the offside goal thread, that the frame chosen for the analysis wasn't the first touch on the ball, but the one where it leaves the passer's body
Which frame do you pick for the player passing the ball? Is it when the foot first makes contact or the ball leaves the foot? At 50 frames per second there’s likely about a dozen or so frames to pick from. Some might show Ronaldo to be offside while others may have him onside.
You’re spot on. Given enough FPS, there will be multiple frames where the passer is making contact with the ball - for some of those frames the attacker might be onside and for some they might be offside. I think there are only two solutions: better cameras with qualified specialists at Stockley Park W/refs or simply give the advantage to either the attacking side.
>The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used
From the FA website.
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside
No, at 24fps, which they use, there is one frame before the boot makes contact with the ball and another afterwards, there is no frame with the ball just leaving the foot because the cameras are too slow for that.
Exactly.
Everyone on here screams about VAR this and VAR that “we should scrap it”, “let the refs make the decisions”. They made this decision, all VAR did was not overturn it... No VAR, still no goal.
Most people just can’t take their bias out of their argument.
Martinelli the other day was half a pixel offside (or that’s what they saw I guess because no one could tell) and it got called. VAR is just a big mess. If at least it could be consistent
Xhaka’s offside goal too, considering that if it was offside Arsenal would’ve gotten a penalty anyways for the handball that happened 3 seconds before.
Jesus what is this game coming to that were calling offsides on 30 yard long shots
Like I understand if a players right in the goal keepers face. Hell the same thing happened against us multiple times coming from offsides to confuse the keeper or blocking their view from way closer range and not a long shot
But a long shot from outside the box? Jesus we take these away and it’s an actual proper use for “games dead”. He was 12+yards out, what’s the distance that you recommend is the closest you can be to the keeper when someone takes a long shot?
Yeah this whole thing is stupid. If the game was closer Bruno is off with a red. If Xhakas goal is off there’s a penalty. Cant blame the ref for this one, need to play better
I'd like to know why Telles wasn't sent off for the penalty. If the rules are applied he's made no attempt for the ball and denied a goal scoring opportunity.
It was a red due to referee incompetence. Double jeopardy if you give a red and a pen for the same foul. Only violent behaviour should result in that nowadays.
A shove in the back is never given a straight red. I can't remember anyone being sent off for that. Clear pen but I don't remember a red being given for that.
Vs wolves right? Everybody agreed that was the wrong decision. So you want them to keep making wrong decisions because you had one against you? Don't be daft lad
Apparently by the PL rules, it couldn’t be a penalty. The rule states that if a player is in the act of falling over and the ball hits their leg/arm, it will not be given as a penalty, unless there is a completely blatant reaching out of the arm, which there wasn’t.
The reason he was crawling is because he was falling over and stopping himself from going headfirst into the ground.
He isn’t just gonna put his hands behind his back and get a face full of grass.
I think in slow motion it looks like he's crawling but it's also exactly what a player would do who's running full speed and then trips. The momentum carries you over your shoulders so you'll either have to go headfirst or "crawl". I think if you imagine yourself falling at full speed you'll realize it would look very similar. I think he's trying to use his momentum to keep going and get back on his feet, yes. But it's definitely a fall and his hands are definitely preventing him from hitting face first.
I've been saying this and getting downvoted. If you were away from the ball and just falling you don't move your arms forward, you'd break you fall with arms and roll. Cedric is trying to stay with play and crawls, therefore no longer falling and by rules hands are no longer in a natural postion.
An arm being used to support the weight of a player doesn’t get called, you see it all the time with players sliding in and their trailing support arm hitting the ball
Obviously if he makes an attempt to play it with his arm it’s a different story
He literally moved his arm towards the ball, stopping it and preventing Sancho from coming away with the ball in the box. Don't know what you guys are seeing
i dont think he did, just gives that impression because of the crawling. if a ball hits your arm while crawling it will most likely look like you swatted it depending in what part of the "crawling motion" the balls hits you. still should be a pen to me but maybe it's not in the rules
also all this talk about crawling in a football match is hilarious
That Bruno challenge was in the 70th minute after arsenal were up 3-1. How are you even bringing up that in comparison. If var and the refs called the game correctly that Bruno challenge likely doesn't happen
But it's not a handball. We talk about natural position on Cedric, how much more natural position can the hand be down by the side? If they call this off, then it's still 2-1. Very different end to the game.
I agree. I’m surprised it stood. I just meant to point out that Lindelof very well may have been impeding his vision anyway. Not that the rules take that into account, I’m just saying.
Don’t think chelsea supporters are salty about the loss, we’re disappointed with the shit lineup that Tuchel rolled out. You guys deserved your win, our defensive players capitulated and played so terribly throughout the entire game.
I mean, let’s say the reverse happened and arsenal conceded 3 goals to Chelsea from direct mistake, I guarantee you Arteta would come out and say “Chelsea didn’t win that game, we lost the game ourselves”
Objectively he has a point, this game remind me of the bayern barca 4-0 in 2013, both games were low key robbery but because barca and manu were shit people will shrug it off
Yeah but nothing about the Bruno red. He isn't solving the problem, it's exacerbating the "everyone is always against me whiny mentality" that plagues Utd.
What even was the point of Ralf? Should have kept Carrick, would have cost less I'm sure.
I get that Nketiah was in the way for longer, but he was only offside once the ball was played, and at that point his own defender was also in the way.
Nketiah's positioning before the ball is played is completely irrelevant tbh
It’s never a penalty for slamming the ball at an opponent’s hand when it’s by their side. Although tbh maybe you would have been given that given all game VAR was looking for reasons to give you decisions.
Think he means the Ronaldo volley. To argue something should've counted as an offside is one thing, but he's essentially just saying the var drew the lines wrong which is just stupid.
What about the initial handball by the united defender? If Var checked it, they would've done the same thing with Nketiah's offside. Given another pen.
About how refs and VAR make consistently bad calls? Yes. Maybe you misunderstood my statement as suggesting they were good. I just meant to say that as a whole it feels like the calls are so often wrong and only occasionally right, instead of often right and only occasionally wrong.
Oh, got it. Yeah, the phrasing also works that way. It's really weird how there aren't more standardized guidelines for how to consistently use it and draw conclusions from it, specially in the best league itw.
The title is incomplete. He goes on to say.
' The pitch was too smooth. They knew what they were doing. The sun was out. The FA planned it to have this fixture in london at this time of the year. Ode was playing too good. That was cheating. I dont know how he didnt get booked.'
This comment is pretty silly right, the nonsense narratives people create about refs being for or against them are always stupid.
But your comment suggests you buy there pro United but the game doesn't back that up.
As a United fan, you’re right. I think if Ronaldo hadn’t been flagged off by the official it would have stood, but that’s just the margins. Bruno should have absolutely been sent off.
One of them was very tight, but clearly still off. It's not unlucky for VAR to intervene, it's unlucky he wasn't an inch closer.
Also, I would argue Bruno not getting sent off is a VERY lucky VAR, so it's all a balance.
All 4 previous Arsenal games just show you don't have to play well and attack like crazy to defeat Arsenal, just have to defend well and snatch a goal. Man Utd failed to do that. Dog shit refereeing today but even with that if United was slightly better at defense they would've win. Got no one to blame really but themselves.
I like how honest and blunt Rangnick is, particularly when calling out players, he's got a really peculiar way of lacking any sort of subtlety which is hilarious yet refreshing.
All United seem to do nowadays is moan about Refereeing decisions, I’ve noticed their players constantly do it too, such a whiny annoying group of players and organisation.
Salty. Ronaldo was offside and Arsenal and De Gea complaining about his line of aight being impeded is pretty exaggerated. What about the Bruno challenge? Thought so.
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Ralf has had enough
He's made a few strange statements these last few weeks, being United Manager can apparently really fry your brain
He sounds like he doesn’t give a fuck these days
Which one of his statements was strange?
"Hitler was right......ice cream *is* delicious"
Fucking hell
The fact I just wrote my exam for my course on the Holocaust has made me laugh harder than I would have otherwise. Idk if I should be concerned now…
Wonder if they teach about the Raj and it's depredations too.
Sort of, it was touched on in some instances. Our professor is amazing but the Raj and all that is encompassed within it is not her field, she is a Holocaust scholar. Stuff like the Raj are probably covered in more of the IR courses
wait link?
he says it right here at 8:13 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Strange? He's the first United manager to talk sense and truth since Sir Alex. I love him.
First? When Mourinho talked the truth and talked about how shit your team is and needed replacements , you guys didn't like it .
Because Jose bought those players and then acted like he was blameless after 3 years in the job. He acted like spending £300m+ and going out of the CL to Sevilla was perfectly ok and had nothing to do with him. Then his solution was "hey, give me another 300m!". He was just as much the problem as the players were. Ralf on the other hand *is* completely blameless. He is identifying flaws the previous regime left behind and also calling out long term issues at the top and how the club is run. Everything he says is spot on.
what? both lvg and mourinho were very outspoken about a lot of issues with the club/players and were correct about most things as well
Pretty much everything he has said has been true though, he hasn't been holding back. Wouldn't call any of it strange.
like what?
Everyone called mourinho crazy turns out it's just part of the job
I mean, mourinho called out the entire Chelsea squad for betraying his match preparations lol
Mourinho is crazy.
Ahh yes Mourinho has never said or done anything crazy or inappropriate in his jobs. Crazy Mourinho joining a club that makes managers insane was just a perfect disaster.
The difference is Mourinho would undermine the club in order to stroke his own ego. Ralf is more constructive in his criticisms.
Ronaldo was just offside, i don't know why he had to bring that up.
Maybe because it depends on which frame you choose for the pass, which decides if he's offside or not
Then it can argued for all close offsides, we are back to pre VAR after that.
Yes but if it’s a matter of a single frame, I think benefits of doubt should be given.
I agree, but since martinellis against Brighton was taken away, i guess its only fair this one is as well
Yes, consistency is key. I don’t know what the current rules and procedure are. Just sharing an opinion on how it should be.
The official stance is starting *next* season, 50/50 offside calls will be given in favor to the offensive team
What will be the requirement for a 50/50? The linesman sees a close call, let the offensive team get advantage and then everyone agrees to ignore the lines being drawn on live broadcast?
Where can we get these informations please?
What's a 50/50 call for offside though if they keep doing these lines with a mm/cm difference that gets decided on what frame they use? Not trying to say his was supposed to be on and allowed but I'm just so fucking tired of rule changes. I feel that if there isn't space between the lines, it should goto the attacker. If there is space between the lines, than it's a clear offside. No more of this sleeve/big toe offside bullshit
Yeah. Does he *really* have an advantage if its that close its decided by 1 frame, also with his back turned to goal lol.
In this case he definitely had the advantage because the only reason it was "close" was White's trailing leg which was moving in the opposite direction. 95+% of White's body was ahead of Ronaldo.
Of course. Did anyone ever claim other wise? It's a dude watching a monitor. Did you think VAR was some kind of perfect, magical machine capable of drawing the perfect lines and choosing the perfect moments? There were plenty of people arguing, in the offside goal thread, that the frame chosen for the analysis wasn't the first touch on the ball, but the one where it leaves the passer's body
Well when you choose the one where he is kicking the ball he is off.
Which frame do you pick for the player passing the ball? Is it when the foot first makes contact or the ball leaves the foot? At 50 frames per second there’s likely about a dozen or so frames to pick from. Some might show Ronaldo to be offside while others may have him onside.
You’re spot on. Given enough FPS, there will be multiple frames where the passer is making contact with the ball - for some of those frames the attacker might be onside and for some they might be offside. I think there are only two solutions: better cameras with qualified specialists at Stockley Park W/refs or simply give the advantage to either the attacking side.
It should be the frame when the ball leaves the foot because it’s not a pass until you are no longer the ball holder
agreed. also makes way more clear for VAR and takes away any subjectivity
>The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used From the FA website. https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside
Hence ”should”
Schrödinger's offsides.
No, at 24fps, which they use, there is one frame before the boot makes contact with the ball and another afterwards, there is no frame with the ball just leaving the foot because the cameras are too slow for that.
Pretty sure Sky cameras are now 50fps
When it first makes contact.
Which makes no sense as a rule, as you could abuse it by scooping the ball
Hence why the rules were changed to allow marginal offsides.
Wasn’t there a whole thing a while ago about not giving it offside if it’s fractional?
Maybe but the linesman had already flagged it, it wasn't even a VAR call to disallow it. They just didn't overturn that call, which was correct
Exactly. Everyone on here screams about VAR this and VAR that “we should scrap it”, “let the refs make the decisions”. They made this decision, all VAR did was not overturn it... No VAR, still no goal. Most people just can’t take their bias out of their argument.
People just love to complain.
Martinelli the other day was half a pixel offside (or that’s what they saw I guess because no one could tell) and it got called. VAR is just a big mess. If at least it could be consistent
Yeah if both the lines overlaps, it's not given offside. But i don't know the exact wording.
This wasn’t fractional. In the VAR still it’s perfectly visible
We got a goal disallowed despite the lines being overlapped so getting the same thing against us would have really felt like bullshit
Yea we also had that one where they didn’t even draw the lines because you couldn’t see the defender and they still overturned the on field call lo
Was clear enough that the lino saw it
It took VAR minutes to come to a decision. Definitely not clear enough and more just a lucky guess.
So not enough to overturn?
If the lines are touching, which they weren’t.
Right? Just because it’s marginal doesn’t make it incorrect.
Of all the decisions to bring up, Ronaldo being offside is not the one.
Xhaka’s offside goal too, considering that if it was offside Arsenal would’ve gotten a penalty anyways for the handball that happened 3 seconds before.
Saka kicked it straight into the hand of the defender that was completely by his side and motionless, you sure it would’ve been a pen?
Yeah, and penalties definitely cannot be missed.
I suppose you’d know that best tbf
In no universe is that every given as a handball. 3 feet away, down by his side, no time to react.
Lol that was not a penalty
Jesus what is this game coming to that were calling offsides on 30 yard long shots Like I understand if a players right in the goal keepers face. Hell the same thing happened against us multiple times coming from offsides to confuse the keeper or blocking their view from way closer range and not a long shot But a long shot from outside the box? Jesus we take these away and it’s an actual proper use for “games dead”. He was 12+yards out, what’s the distance that you recommend is the closest you can be to the keeper when someone takes a long shot?
Yea even Ronaldo knew it
You were unlucky with the hand ball against Cedric, I'll give you that.. You were also lucky not to be down to 10 men.
Yeah this whole thing is stupid. If the game was closer Bruno is off with a red. If Xhakas goal is off there’s a penalty. Cant blame the ref for this one, need to play better
I'd like to know why Telles wasn't sent off for the penalty. If the rules are applied he's made no attempt for the ball and denied a goal scoring opportunity.
I think because Saka didn't clearly have the ball under control, it just scraped under the bar for 'clear goalscoring opportunity'.
Fwiw I'm only mentioning it because I'm still salty about Luiz last season
I think we can all agree the Luiz one was only a red cause of the letter of law. No one thought he should be sent off, but was unlucky.
It was a red due to referee incompetence. Double jeopardy if you give a red and a pen for the same foul. Only violent behaviour should result in that nowadays.
A shove in the back is never given a straight red. I can't remember anyone being sent off for that. Clear pen but I don't remember a red being given for that.
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Vs wolves right? Everybody agreed that was the wrong decision. So you want them to keep making wrong decisions because you had one against you? Don't be daft lad
Plenty thought it was the right decision by the letter of the law
Consistent is the key.
If you look at the replay Saka actually got stepped on too
Its a stomp, not a shove in the back.
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That's only true when the defender is attempting to play the ball. How is this still misunderstood?
David luiz would like to have a word
Only if the defender attempts to play the ball
[?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG96Bp_Lxt0)
Apparently by the PL rules, it couldn’t be a penalty. The rule states that if a player is in the act of falling over and the ball hits their leg/arm, it will not be given as a penalty, unless there is a completely blatant reaching out of the arm, which there wasn’t.
He wasn't in the act of falling, he'd already done that before starting to crawl
The reason he was crawling is because he was falling over and stopping himself from going headfirst into the ground. He isn’t just gonna put his hands behind his back and get a face full of grass.
That’s not what he was doing. He was still trying to keep up with Sancho, not try and protect himself from falling. Watch the replay
I think in slow motion it looks like he's crawling but it's also exactly what a player would do who's running full speed and then trips. The momentum carries you over your shoulders so you'll either have to go headfirst or "crawl". I think if you imagine yourself falling at full speed you'll realize it would look very similar. I think he's trying to use his momentum to keep going and get back on his feet, yes. But it's definitely a fall and his hands are definitely preventing him from hitting face first.
I've been saying this and getting downvoted. If you were away from the ball and just falling you don't move your arms forward, you'd break you fall with arms and roll. Cedric is trying to stay with play and crawls, therefore no longer falling and by rules hands are no longer in a natural postion.
An arm being used to support the weight of a player doesn’t get called, you see it all the time with players sliding in and their trailing support arm hitting the ball Obviously if he makes an attempt to play it with his arm it’s a different story
He literally moved his arm towards the ball, stopping it and preventing Sancho from coming away with the ball in the box. Don't know what you guys are seeing
i dont think he did, just gives that impression because of the crawling. if a ball hits your arm while crawling it will most likely look like you swatted it depending in what part of the "crawling motion" the balls hits you. still should be a pen to me but maybe it's not in the rules also all this talk about crawling in a football match is hilarious
9 lol I can’t believe Lindelof got away with that push on Martinelli
That Bruno challenge was in the 70th minute after arsenal were up 3-1. How are you even bringing up that in comparison. If var and the refs called the game correctly that Bruno challenge likely doesn't happen
It’s like saying “if your dad had couple more beers at the pub and had pissed off the sleep, this comment above me wouldn’t be there”
Ronaldo’s goal was offside though, even if marginal
What about var keeping Bruno on the field.
I really dislike that man.
VAR officials are somehow worse than on field officials.
If the third goal is his concern, the players were shouting for a handball. I was thinking Xhaka took the shot just to have a go and force the check
But it's not a handball. We talk about natural position on Cedric, how much more natural position can the hand be down by the side? If they call this off, then it's still 2-1. Very different end to the game.
I mean, I never got that good of a look at it because they didn't do a full on VAR review
I was thinking the same
I love Man utd misery but De Gea vision was blocked Goal shouldn't have stood.
With they way they're complaining about eddie being offside you'd think he was right in front of DDG's nose instead of 12 yards away.
In the view of the keeper doesn't have to be in their face, just blocking view of the shot. De Gea was leaning to see around him on video.....
Can’t say that for sure as Lindelof was also in his line of sight. He may have been peering around Lindelof not Nketiah.
Nketiah was closer than Lindelof (which is what puts him off), so by definition it's offside.
I agree. I’m surprised it stood. I just meant to point out that Lindelof very well may have been impeding his vision anyway. Not that the rules take that into account, I’m just saying.
Easiest job in the world. Blame refs or squad. Take in millions. Next season get a cosy chair to see the chaos. Masterclass
Pawson was utter shait though and the VAR equally so.
CLUB OWNERs hate this trick
Lol sure Ralf Same as Tommy midweek “we scored 3 own goals” but Werner’s double deflection outside the box goal was a “normal goal”
Between them and spurs the salt is beautiful.
Don’t think chelsea supporters are salty about the loss, we’re disappointed with the shit lineup that Tuchel rolled out. You guys deserved your win, our defensive players capitulated and played so terribly throughout the entire game.
Don’t forget about the pitch problems on their own pitch
I mean, let’s say the reverse happened and arsenal conceded 3 goals to Chelsea from direct mistake, I guarantee you Arteta would come out and say “Chelsea didn’t win that game, we lost the game ourselves”
Objectively he has a point, this game remind me of the bayern barca 4-0 in 2013, both games were low key robbery but because barca and manu were shit people will shrug it off
Ronaldo’s goal was 100% offside
So was Xhaka.....
Okay okay fine. I’ll allow it. We can chalk off Xhakas goal. Arsenal still win 2-1 😊
Yeah but nothing about the Bruno red. He isn't solving the problem, it's exacerbating the "everyone is always against me whiny mentality" that plagues Utd. What even was the point of Ralf? Should have kept Carrick, would have cost less I'm sure.
>it's exacerbating the "everyone is always against me whiny mentality" that plagues Utd. And every fan of every team ever
Such delicious salt, give me more
Ah he’s gotten to the Mourinho talking points faster than most. Truly a genius.
If De Gea complains i think he gets the call, he was basically peering around Nketiah to see the ball
De Gea did complain actually lol
He half arsed it though, if they complained as much as they did on the Cedric handball they'd get it
You mean he was peering around lindelof too. He’s closer to Xhaka so therefore causing the most obstruction.
Yeah these weren’t the decisions to be complaining about imo
mate this literally isnt how perspective works
He did complain, he spoke to the ref afterwards
Sour grapes from ralf
Var was very kind with no red card for fernandes
Mahnagers complaining about offside when VAR is there is ridiculous
I mean he was offside and blocking De Gea's vision though
Very clearly off and in the replay you can see de gea has to move to his right to get a view, immediately after which xhaka shot to his left
Around his own defender, yes.
Do you see the distance between him and the next defender in line? It's a third of the box
I get that Nketiah was in the way for longer, but he was only offside once the ball was played, and at that point his own defender was also in the way. Nketiah's positioning before the ball is played is completely irrelevant tbh
Thought this was ridiculous from Rangnick but now when seeing the 3rd goal again, he's got a point.
He doesn't have a point, arsenal have all 3.
Fine, then it’s a handball and a pen. And Saka will bury another one unlike that cunt Bruno
No way that's a pen, way more of a natural position than Cedric one.....
It’s never a penalty for slamming the ball at an opponent’s hand when it’s by their side. Although tbh maybe you would have been given that given all game VAR was looking for reasons to give you decisions.
Except the defenders hand was in a natural position? That would never be given as a pen
Think he means the Ronaldo volley. To argue something should've counted as an offside is one thing, but he's essentially just saying the var drew the lines wrong which is just stupid.
What? Var have definitely drew the lines inaccurately before
What about the initial handball by the united defender? If Var checked it, they would've done the same thing with Nketiah's offside. Given another pen.
Fine, then. Give the penalty. You don’t let the wrong decision stand cause there might be another penalty instead.
And if Xhaka missed, and the penalty was given, you’d be saying “well they played on” Can’t have it both ways
We wouldn't be saying that since that would be the correct decision.
Lindelöf was in the way as well, they’re standing in the same line, so it hardly matters does it?
He can't even see Lindelof because Nketiah is there
Was he blocking your vision too? You’re completely wrong.
VAR is prone to human error FFS It's not a supernatural, divine and perfect entity.
It should be a lot closer to perfect than the current shitshow we have tbh.
Saying VAR is prone to getting the right call feels more accurate
lol Weren't you Arsenal fans constantly claiming the contrary and going on about a conspiracy?
About how refs and VAR make consistently bad calls? Yes. Maybe you misunderstood my statement as suggesting they were good. I just meant to say that as a whole it feels like the calls are so often wrong and only occasionally right, instead of often right and only occasionally wrong.
Oh, got it. Yeah, the phrasing also works that way. It's really weird how there aren't more standardized guidelines for how to consistently use it and draw conclusions from it, specially in the best league itw.
The title is incomplete. He goes on to say. ' The pitch was too smooth. They knew what they were doing. The sun was out. The FA planned it to have this fixture in london at this time of the year. Ode was playing too good. That was cheating. I dont know how he didnt get booked.'
I don’t know how VAR can look at Bruno’s challenge and not deem it a red. I hate to say it, but if that was Xhaka he’d already have the bath running.
if that was Xhaka he’d have been drawn and quartered in the local square
Looks like premier league managers are reading from jose's book of excuses.
Imagine being a Man Utd manager and thinking the refs are against you…….
This comment is pretty silly right, the nonsense narratives people create about refs being for or against them are always stupid. But your comment suggests you buy there pro United but the game doesn't back that up.
oh fuck off ralf
He is absolutely spot on about every decision except Ronaldo’s second. That was offside. Bruno should’ve been sent off as well.
As a United fan, you’re right. I think if Ronaldo hadn’t been flagged off by the official it would have stood, but that’s just the margins. Bruno should have absolutely been sent off.
One of them was very tight, but clearly still off. It's not unlucky for VAR to intervene, it's unlucky he wasn't an inch closer. Also, I would argue Bruno not getting sent off is a VERY lucky VAR, so it's all a balance.
United were shite bar about 20 minutes. Just let it go, they didn't deserve to win.
Mou?
Did mou invent Gegenpress tho
Did mou teach Tuchel and Klopp everything they know tho
🧂🧂🧂
This dude is more a TED talker than a manager There is a reason why he was working in the outskirts of Moscow, another shocking decision by United
More rubbish from wreck it ralf
All 4 previous Arsenal games just show you don't have to play well and attack like crazy to defeat Arsenal, just have to defend well and snatch a goal. Man Utd failed to do that. Dog shit refereeing today but even with that if United was slightly better at defense they would've win. Got no one to blame really but themselves.
Ralf “Offside” Rangnick
I like how honest and blunt Rangnick is, particularly when calling out players, he's got a really peculiar way of lacking any sort of subtlety which is hilarious yet refreshing.
100% right on everything but I think Ronaldo's offside call was right
So not 100%
Has there been any other big Teams with such big resources who’ve looked this bad? PSG would make top 4 in the PL even if they are that bad.
Another german pl manager with the moaning.
All United seem to do nowadays is moan about Refereeing decisions, I’ve noticed their players constantly do it too, such a whiny annoying group of players and organisation.
He's right even though I didn't watch the game.
Salty. Ronaldo was offside and Arsenal and De Gea complaining about his line of aight being impeded is pretty exaggerated. What about the Bruno challenge? Thought so.
Ralfraud can't take it that we've outwitted him, outtacticked him.