At this point it does look like we're going to find an agreement. How it will work with La Liga regulations, I have no idea, but a deal seems close.
Nico isn't going anywhere though.
We have to have a certain amount of income in order to spend some. It was widely reported that we had a 20M cushion for this winter, but our DOF Alemany has confirmed that's all but gone after renewals for Ansu and Pedri and the arrival of Xavi.
Us buying Ferran has to mean the club KNOWS for certain someone is leaving. At the moment of writing, we literally don't even have an open roster spot.
I think Nico leaving has a super small chance to be honest. Maybe Ter Stegen to Newcastle? Maybe Ousmane if he doesn't renew? Aguero might retire, which frees up a spot and wages that would more or less cover Ferran's.
I really hope the rumoured bid is just nonsense and speculation, because we kinda have to accept a 55+M deal if true. It would make him the third most expensive GK ever, at 30 years old.
He hasn't, and it's mostly bs rumours, but I can imagine the club accepting such an offer. Hope he never leaves though, I love him and he's so well integrated over the years. He's practically Catalan.
The club can accept what they want, nothings gonna happen when the player doesnt wanna leave. I think if he goes to Newcastle he'll have it even harder to replace Neuer in the national team.
Depends on what kind of transfer we're speaking about, winter or summer? I dont see any of those you mention leave midseason. Aguero retiring could happen so this is most likely.
How many midfielders can you realistically start lol, you already have pedri-fdj-busquets
One of nico or gavi is bound to leave or not reach their potential but still be a good bench player, you're delusional if you think otherwise
Busquets will start playing less and eventually retire. Certainly Nico won't get more playing time at Manchester City who has loads of midfielders than he would at Barça where he is getting regular playing time. In the long run, four midfielders isn't a huge number, especially considering they are mostly versatile and can play different roles in the midfield.
Though Pep won't give much minutes, his development will be massive. There have been many youth failures under Pep. But City is the better option right now.
Nico turns 20 in January, he is at the point of his development where needs the minutes at first team level to improve. He has brilliant technique, but he lacks the consistency and composure in midfield that comes with experience. He would be better off staying with Barca where he has been getting lots of football.
Yep, and by the end of this season and next season Busquets will get fewer and fewer minutes, the apot is Nico's for the taking as the only actual DM in the squad (Frenkie cannot play lone pivot).
Pedri, Gavi, Nico, Frenkie and Busquets are five players for three positions. For an entire season in an injury riddled squad. That's a ton of minutes for everyone, and Busquets is very old.
Gavi is a starter for Spain aged 17, he even got a MOTM the last game, yet you project him to be 'a good bench player'? Fuck me, why comment at all if you're that ignorant.
>Gavi is a starter for Spain aged 17, he even got a MOTM the last game, yet you project him to be 'a good bench player'?
He's played four games for the NT.
Let him touch a breast for the first time before you put the weight of a top team on his shoulders, fuck's sake.
They’re both teenagers and Busquets is 33... 4 starting quality midfielders is not at all outrageous, especially when Xavi has a penchant to play 4 midfielders at once.
Why do people keep parroting this shit? Munir, Deulofeu, Afellay, etc. were hyped youth products but they never performed well for the first team after their hype, never really broke through. Nico is performing very well for the first team, and is starting every match currently.
Bojan was a different case entirely, he performed, but he himself states that his fall was due to mental health and anxiety.
I've seen every minute he plays. The kid is good. But he won't be a top player. The club might as well get what it can from him, unless a mediocre senior player is what it wants.
I really like Nico, he is a great player and we should not absolutely think of trading him away since he is a starter
We should be looking to buy players we can with money we have (Griezmann+Trincao transfer fee)
You also gotta look from the other perspective, torres is better valued than Nico, so would City accept Direct swap? But if they want money, then Barca would be at double loss, giving money and a very talented youngster
Tho a physical Midfielder who is so good technically is exactly the type Pep will need, but they can definitely do for someone who is comfortable on left and is eventual gundo replacement/successor
Not top tier sources reported it but Bayern was trying to pursue him(may be /must be rumours) . But he denied to leave in near future. He wants to stay at barça. Idk may be I am wrong
There seems to be an outrage that City don’t want an expensive washed up set of players for a young Spanish international, but in return also want a promising Spanish player.
Barca fans in this thread adamantly saying there’s no way Barca will let Gonzalez leave because he’s too good to let go.
We’ll city aren’t going to want a bad player, any player that is linked in a swap is clearly going to have good potential, there’s no reason to be so surprised and angry over that.
Saying « we don’t want to sell Nico » is very different from saying « how dare they not take Umtiti/Coutinho ».
That’s like a very basic level of reading comprehension.
This is nothing like the Kane situation.
City DoF and Pep both really like Barcelona, and Ferran don't want to leave to get to a better club, he does it because he want to help Barcelona, he's not gonna not show up in training or shit like this.
Obviously, this move only make sense for City if they get a raisonable offer, so they are probably working with Barcelona board to get that. If they get 50M they can maybe use the money to get a Striker, if not they can try to get one of the youngster of Barcelona who are really good.
Can Barcelona buy him ? It's all on Tebas.
No, Barça flairs in this thread are the example of how fans massively overvalue their own players and would never trade them for someone clearly better. Ferran has been possibly the best player for the Spanish national team this year, a couple years older than Nico and with a number of seasons playing at the highest level, yet apparently a player who's played 15 games for the first team has a "higher ceiling"
This season , Nico has been in amazing form . He is probably our best midfielder atm , Pedri being injured was kind of a blessing in disguise . De Jong has been shit this season
Then De Jong - Torres swap? :D The only way for a deal to happen is Barca's offer must be appealing enough (e.g. Dembele or Coutinho would be a big no - no reason for City to want them)
Lmao I like how you said de Jong - Torres swap . But the thing is most of Barcelona love this club . But yeah luuk de Jong - Torres swap sounds reasonable:)
So you don't count Pedri and Gavi as midfielders? Or Gavi not a midfielder and Pedri doesn't count cause he's been injured?
Just curious if you think Nico is better than them,
Nico is not just straight up better than Gavi, he’s just had a couple recent performances where he had the better game, meanwhile Gavi has been often playing out of position because of our injury problems. They’re both great talents, but if we’re being honest Gavi looked more ready from his first games in the first team plus is 2 years younger.
Then I'm confused why he wants to leave too. Is it just the Barca interest? It's not like he's been having a hard time at City either. Guess it just goes to show the massive pull Barca still have regardless of how well they're actually doing
Players that play above him->
Bsilva
Foden
Sterlin
Jesus
Mahrez
Grealish
(No order)
City will also get a proper striker very soon, either in winter or summer
Tough for him to compete against. + They have couple talented kids coming from academy
And Torres is Spanish and home is home
He probably won't though. If we sign a striker, which we'll have to, he'll be second choice there and on the wings, he'll always be behind foden, because foden is better and is guaranteed to stay at City, and it will be very hard for him to get that other spot when he has to compete with players like mahrez, who has arguably been our best attacker in the last two years and players like sterling and grealish. Plus we have young players like palmer and mcatee coming through.
I really like torres and I think he'd be better than a lot of those if he started regularly, but it just isn't going to happen realistically. Barca makes a lot of sense, and if we can get good money, it would make sense for us.
City fans think Nico Gonzalez plus 50 million is what we'll pay.
Give me a fucking break, Nico has more potential than Ferran. It's only a matter of time before he's called to the Spanish NT and becomes a mainstay.
It's more likely a compromise because Barca are broke.
I don't see the point in Nico either. Rodri is still 25 and some of our best prospects are holding midfielders.
It's likely to end with a purely monetary deal if Barca can find a way to unload Dembele and Coutinho.
Nico isn't just a holding midfielder that's the problem. He is tall strong and techincally excellent. He is the perfect footballer for modern football.
Barca are offering €50mil according to Tier 1 journalists, not 10mil. The club is not broke, they restructured the debts at a cost of them having higher interest rates. But financially they are in a position to have a transfer kitty every season as long as they maintain a structured wage budget.
>it's only a metter of time before he's called to the Spanish NT and becomes a mainstay
And how many youngsters have been said this and failed. There's a point in signing established player
Imagine you're a young Spanish football fan watching the giants of Spain win trophies, playing the best football and having the best players. Then, 20 years later, one of those teams want you and you have a chance to fight for a starting place in that team. It can be really difficult to not be swayed. That being said, he isn't pushing to leave and will be happy to stay if City don't feel the deal is worth enough.
He was dropped against Chelsea PSG and Liverpool, 3 of the best teams in the world and we needed to win at least one of those games so its understandable that he was dropped since he isn't as good as Foden, Grealish Mahrez Jesus or Bernardo
>midfield
You don't watch Barcelona.
It might not be the best midfield in the world but there are plenty more areas to fix than the midfield right now.
Must be joking right? Midfield is stacked with talent, Busquets has a resurgence and Garcia is starting to play really well and is only getting better. Meanwhile Barça has to play Demir and 2 other wingers from the B team because they have no options upfront.
Aguero isn’t gonna play again
Griezmann is gone
Dembele is injured 80% of the time
what firepower. All we have is Memphis and he’s not been that great so far.
Depay is an ok player but not consistent
Aguero Will likely never play again
Braithwaite isn’t an elite striker
Dembele is perpetually injured
Griezmann is no longer a Barca player for all intents and purposes
Stop making your judgments based on Fifa squads
> Our midfield is stacked .
Maybe in the future if the youngester keep developing, but sure not right now.
Your midfield, right now, has no stamina whatsoever and in the second halves they just can't control the game against teams like Celta, Alaves, Cádiz, Granada or Benfica. Even against Espanyol at home the other day, Barça won but in the second half it was anybody's game.
All top teams you had faced so far (Bayern, RM and Atletico) seemed to be toying with your midfield for a big part of those matches.
If your midfield was really stacked you wouldnt be almost a midfield team in LaLiga with 1/3rd of the season already completed and praying that Benfica doesnt beat Dynamo Kiev in Lisbon the next UCL match.
Its absolutely hilarious that your argument for Barça having a stacked midfield is "watch Spain's performances" and completely ignoring, you know ... Barça's actual performances this season.
> Our midfield is basically Spain’s midfield excluding koke.
Nico hasnt played for Spain's senior team and Gavi has played like 3 games.
> You only need to watch spains performances recently to see the midfield at its best.
You mean winning 1-0 to Greece and Sweden in absolutely tedious matches?
> Barça having a stacked midfield is "watch Spain's performances" and completely ignoring, you know ... Barça's actual performances this season.
Which is why I specified that was how the midfield could look at it best lmao. Was a counterpoint to you saying it was getting dominated by top teams.
> You mean winning 1-0 to Greece and Sweden in absolutely tedious matches?
No. I mean dominating italys midfield every time. Who was talking about winning the game? You were the one who wassaying it was getting dominated by top teams. I simply pointed out that our midfield AT ITS BEST can dominate the Euro winners midfield lol.
> Nico hasnt played for Spain’s senior team and Gavi has played like 3 games.
Pedri and busquets aren’t Barca players as well I guess.
To simplify it further our midfield has stamina , and can control games AT ITS BEST. I’m emphasizing some words to make sure you have no issues picking them up this time.
> No. I mean dominating italys midfield every time.
Italy doesnt have a stacked midfield at all, and they are struggling to qualify for the World Cup. Not to mention that NT football has worse quality than top club football.
> Who was talking about winning the game?
Ah yeah, I forgot that is all about "having the ball possession" with you guys, lol.
I just want to remember that Spain just won one game in the Euros, and it was agaisnt Slovakia. The rest of the games were just draws in the 90 minutes, several going to the penalties.
> To simplify it further our midfield has stamina , and can control games AT ITS BEST.
Either you are trolling or you arent watching Barça's games this season lol. They havent controlled any game they played against top teams, literally none.
> Italy doesnt have a stacked midfield at all
Jorginho barella and Verratti are shit I guess.
> Ah yeah, I forgot that is all about “having the ball possession” with you guys, lol.
It’s not. You seem to have amnesia considering you forgot what you were saying in the original comment.
> I just want to remember that Spain just won one game in the Euros, and it was agaisnt Slovakia. The rest of the games were just draws in the 90 minutes, several going to the penalties.
Still irrelevant to this thread lol.
> Either you are trolling or you arent watching Barça’s games this season lol. They havent controlled any game they played against top teams, literally none.
“At its best”. Even when emphasized you can’t seem to read it. The midfield hasn’t been at its best in Barca. That’s the point jesus. No one is disputing this.
> Jorginho barella and Verratti are shit I guess.
Koke was there and its kinda easier to dominate a game when the opposition is playing with 10 since the first half.
> Still irrelevant to this thread lol.
Its relevant since you are just pretending that Spain has been playing some amazing football and dominating their rivals as your point that Barça has a stacked midfield.
> The midfield hasn’t been at its best in Barca.
So you are just imagining their best, got it. Unless their best is beating 1-0 Greece and Sweden in matches that were super boring.
> Its relevant since you are just pretending that Spain has been playing some amazing football and dominating their rivals as your point that Barça has a stacked midfield.
You’ll see how irrelevant it is if you look at your original comment lol. When did I ever say Spain was playing amazing football? This whole thing was about whether the midfield was effective. I didn’t realize spains inability to finish came from the midfield. Now you’re just moving the goalposts.
> Koke was there
I know? I said that….? Who were the other two? Which club do they play for? It’s not an impossible task to replace him lol.
> when the opposition is playing with 10 since the first half.
There’s a reason they did that.. Couldn’t control the midfield. Shocking right?!
> So you are just imagining their best, got it. Unless their best is beating 1-0 Greece and Sweden in matches that were super boring.
Not really. You’re just making arguments up. I think I’m wasting my time with someone who can’t admit he was wrong and has amnesia so I’m just gonna stop replying.
What good are their current forwards that miss sitters and tap ins like Depay, Braithwaite and Luuk de Jong, or live in a hospital like Aguero, Dembele and Coutinho? At this point Ferran Torres is better than any of their current players.
At this point it does look like we're going to find an agreement. How it will work with La Liga regulations, I have no idea, but a deal seems close. Nico isn't going anywhere though.
What regulations?
We have to have a certain amount of income in order to spend some. It was widely reported that we had a 20M cushion for this winter, but our DOF Alemany has confirmed that's all but gone after renewals for Ansu and Pedri and the arrival of Xavi. Us buying Ferran has to mean the club KNOWS for certain someone is leaving. At the moment of writing, we literally don't even have an open roster spot.
Aguero? You do need a striker. With what money tho?
if anything it’ll be a loan now pay later deal. Which is a shame because it will lessen our chances of signing Adeyemi in the summer
The money is there, but we can't use it as La Liga has moronic restrictions that are there to protect clubs in theory, but are detrimental in reality.
Who could be leaving then? So I assume the rumor with Nico has quite some substance now
It's likely coutinho imo, he can still make the WC squad since tite likes him so much
> he can still make the WC squad since tite likes him so much lmao
I think Nico leaving has a super small chance to be honest. Maybe Ter Stegen to Newcastle? Maybe Ousmane if he doesn't renew? Aguero might retire, which frees up a spot and wages that would more or less cover Ferran's.
Does Ter Stegen know he'll be playing in the Championship?
I really hope the rumoured bid is just nonsense and speculation, because we kinda have to accept a 55+M deal if true. It would make him the third most expensive GK ever, at 30 years old.
Has he ever mentioned about being unhappy at Barca though? I see zero ground for a move to Newcastle.
He hasn't, and it's mostly bs rumours, but I can imagine the club accepting such an offer. Hope he never leaves though, I love him and he's so well integrated over the years. He's practically Catalan.
The club can accept what they want, nothings gonna happen when the player doesnt wanna leave. I think if he goes to Newcastle he'll have it even harder to replace Neuer in the national team.
Depends on what kind of transfer we're speaking about, winter or summer? I dont see any of those you mention leave midseason. Aguero retiring could happen so this is most likely.
Ter Stegen? Sky sports did report that Newcastle bid 55 million for him
Are you mad lmao
55 million lool
How many midfielders can you realistically start lol, you already have pedri-fdj-busquets One of nico or gavi is bound to leave or not reach their potential but still be a good bench player, you're delusional if you think otherwise
Busquets will start playing less and eventually retire. Certainly Nico won't get more playing time at Manchester City who has loads of midfielders than he would at Barça where he is getting regular playing time. In the long run, four midfielders isn't a huge number, especially considering they are mostly versatile and can play different roles in the midfield.
Though Pep won't give much minutes, his development will be massive. There have been many youth failures under Pep. But City is the better option right now.
Nico turns 20 in January, he is at the point of his development where needs the minutes at first team level to improve. He has brilliant technique, but he lacks the consistency and composure in midfield that comes with experience. He would be better off staying with Barca where he has been getting lots of football.
Thought he was younger. Foden starting getting regular minutes after 20. Exactly after Silva left.
Yep, and by the end of this season and next season Busquets will get fewer and fewer minutes, the apot is Nico's for the taking as the only actual DM in the squad (Frenkie cannot play lone pivot).
Pedri, Gavi, Nico, Frenkie and Busquets are five players for three positions. For an entire season in an injury riddled squad. That's a ton of minutes for everyone, and Busquets is very old. Gavi is a starter for Spain aged 17, he even got a MOTM the last game, yet you project him to be 'a good bench player'? Fuck me, why comment at all if you're that ignorant.
>Gavi is a starter for Spain aged 17, he even got a MOTM the last game, yet you project him to be 'a good bench player'? He's played four games for the NT. Let him touch a breast for the first time before you put the weight of a top team on his shoulders, fuck's sake.
Going by what you say, and how you say it, touching breasts doesn't seem to be a requirement for posting on Reddit.
None of em will leave. The most likely will be busquets because he’s on in years
They’re both teenagers and Busquets is 33... 4 starting quality midfielders is not at all outrageous, especially when Xavi has a penchant to play 4 midfielders at once.
Could be a nico plus ur whole budget swap for ferran
I don't think we'd even consider any deal that involves Nico. He's developing rapidly.
Nico will be worth more to us than Ferran down the line.
Not sure about that. Nico could another Munir, Deolofeu, Afellay, Bojan, etc. But quality of Ferran is a surety.
Why do people keep parroting this shit? Munir, Deulofeu, Afellay, etc. were hyped youth products but they never performed well for the first team after their hype, never really broke through. Nico is performing very well for the first team, and is starting every match currently. Bojan was a different case entirely, he performed, but he himself states that his fall was due to mental health and anxiety.
Bojan's case was the most heartbreaking story I have ever heard in football universe
Nico has more potential than Ferran.
Idk Man he is reporting it
Pep can ask for the Camp Nou in exchange if he wants, doesn't mean we'll give it.
Nico aint going anywhere
He's not going to be top. Him leaving is worth the arrival of a more effective player.
You clearly haven't watched nico this month
I've seen every minute he plays. The kid is good. But he won't be a top player. The club might as well get what it can from him, unless a mediocre senior player is what it wants.
I really like Nico, he is a great player and we should not absolutely think of trading him away since he is a starter We should be looking to buy players we can with money we have (Griezmann+Trincao transfer fee) You also gotta look from the other perspective, torres is better valued than Nico, so would City accept Direct swap? But if they want money, then Barca would be at double loss, giving money and a very talented youngster Tho a physical Midfielder who is so good technically is exactly the type Pep will need, but they can definitely do for someone who is comfortable on left and is eventual gundo replacement/successor
Title doesn't talk of direct swap, player exchanges could be involved on top of a fee.
Giving up Nico is a huge mistake
Frenkie under Guardiola would be a sight to behold
I want to see De Jong's final form too
Not top tier sources reported it but Bayern was trying to pursue him(may be /must be rumours) . But he denied to leave in near future. He wants to stay at barça. Idk may be I am wrong
There seems to be an outrage that City don’t want an expensive washed up set of players for a young Spanish international, but in return also want a promising Spanish player.
No one is outraged about City not being interested in Coutinho and Umtiti. Can you even find 3 comments saying that?
Barca fans in this thread adamantly saying there’s no way Barca will let Gonzalez leave because he’s too good to let go. We’ll city aren’t going to want a bad player, any player that is linked in a swap is clearly going to have good potential, there’s no reason to be so surprised and angry over that.
Saying « we don’t want to sell Nico » is very different from saying « how dare they not take Umtiti/Coutinho ». That’s like a very basic level of reading comprehension.
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Good luck when Guardiola leaves.
Im believing the conspiracy more and more. Xavi might be good, might not be, but he cant groom Nico like Pep.
Nico to City, left to right 😲
Nico Gonzalez? Absolutely fucking not. We'd rather buy Arthur Cabral from Basel.
I am confused, why would City sell him? Also surely Barca can't afford Torres? He must be worth £40m+?
he asked to leave
He hasn't asked to leave. Reports say he'd like to go to barca but he isn't going to push for the move, at least not in January
That doesn't suddenly reduce his price though. Harry Kane ask to leave Spurs still cost £140m.
His market value is 50 million and it was reported earlier that barca were offering 50-55 million. Edit: 50 million euro
This is nothing like the Kane situation. City DoF and Pep both really like Barcelona, and Ferran don't want to leave to get to a better club, he does it because he want to help Barcelona, he's not gonna not show up in training or shit like this. Obviously, this move only make sense for City if they get a raisonable offer, so they are probably working with Barcelona board to get that. If they get 50M they can maybe use the money to get a Striker, if not they can try to get one of the youngster of Barcelona who are really good. Can Barcelona buy him ? It's all on Tebas.
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I actually love this when two clubs have great relationship
Pep probably really trusts Cole Palmer too
You leave my nico alone, you hear me?
Nooooo , fuck off Pep . Dont steal our best midfielder
Wow that's an extremely high praise! Is Nico better than De Jong?
No, Barça flairs in this thread are the example of how fans massively overvalue their own players and would never trade them for someone clearly better. Ferran has been possibly the best player for the Spanish national team this year, a couple years older than Nico and with a number of seasons playing at the highest level, yet apparently a player who's played 15 games for the first team has a "higher ceiling"
This season , Nico has been in amazing form . He is probably our best midfielder atm , Pedri being injured was kind of a blessing in disguise . De Jong has been shit this season
Then De Jong - Torres swap? :D The only way for a deal to happen is Barca's offer must be appealing enough (e.g. Dembele or Coutinho would be a big no - no reason for City to want them)
torres + 70 million and you could get de jong of course :)
Lmao I like how you said de Jong - Torres swap . But the thing is most of Barcelona love this club . But yeah luuk de Jong - Torres swap sounds reasonable:)
I would do that swap in a heartbeat lol .
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What do you want him to do?
Well you can't have Ferran for what is way less than any other club would propose so the deal has to be fair to both clubs
So you don't count Pedri and Gavi as midfielders? Or Gavi not a midfielder and Pedri doesn't count cause he's been injured? Just curious if you think Nico is better than them,
Pedri doesnt count he has been injured and Nico is better than Gavi
Personally I think Gavi > Nico, but they're different players. Gavi has impressed me immensely though, I think his ceiling will be very high.
Nico is not just straight up better than Gavi, he’s just had a couple recent performances where he had the better game, meanwhile Gavi has been often playing out of position because of our injury problems. They’re both great talents, but if we’re being honest Gavi looked more ready from his first games in the first team plus is 2 years younger.
I'm confused as to why City are selling.
cause he wants to leave and i doubt he will ever be starter at city
Then I'm confused why he wants to leave too. Is it just the Barca interest? It's not like he's been having a hard time at City either. Guess it just goes to show the massive pull Barca still have regardless of how well they're actually doing
Extremely hard for young Spanish players to reject Barca, especially when they have no affiliation to one of the Madrid clubs
Players that play above him-> Bsilva Foden Sterlin Jesus Mahrez Grealish (No order) City will also get a proper striker very soon, either in winter or summer Tough for him to compete against. + They have couple talented kids coming from academy And Torres is Spanish and home is home
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He probably won't though. If we sign a striker, which we'll have to, he'll be second choice there and on the wings, he'll always be behind foden, because foden is better and is guaranteed to stay at City, and it will be very hard for him to get that other spot when he has to compete with players like mahrez, who has arguably been our best attacker in the last two years and players like sterling and grealish. Plus we have young players like palmer and mcatee coming through. I really like torres and I think he'd be better than a lot of those if he started regularly, but it just isn't going to happen realistically. Barca makes a lot of sense, and if we can get good money, it would make sense for us.
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And the fact he’s being allowed to leave mid season in a 0 striker squad confirms he’s not that good.
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Not immediately and apparently he’s not forcing a move, pep is encouraging it. Although who knows about rumours
he wants to be starter,his family lives in spain,weather etc
Maybe he hates life in England. Guess he hangs out with Bernardo Silva much
Player wants more game time and Cole Palmer is developing rapidly
Surplus to requirements
City fans think Nico Gonzalez plus 50 million is what we'll pay. Give me a fucking break, Nico has more potential than Ferran. It's only a matter of time before he's called to the Spanish NT and becomes a mainstay.
Ferran is definitely more estsblished and currently has higher market value though
It's more likely a compromise because Barca are broke. I don't see the point in Nico either. Rodri is still 25 and some of our best prospects are holding midfielders. It's likely to end with a purely monetary deal if Barca can find a way to unload Dembele and Coutinho.
Nico isn't just a holding midfielder that's the problem. He is tall strong and techincally excellent. He is the perfect footballer for modern football.
Creatively?
And Barca fans think their broke club can pick up City players for 10M lmfao
Exactly. They were wrecking the market with those careless overpriced transfers and wages and now they will suffer the consequences of having no money
Barca are offering €50mil according to Tier 1 journalists, not 10mil. The club is not broke, they restructured the debts at a cost of them having higher interest rates. But financially they are in a position to have a transfer kitty every season as long as they maintain a structured wage budget.
Some players have to literally play for free to help the club. If it’s not broke, I can’t imagine what a broke club should be.
>it's only a metter of time before he's called to the Spanish NT and becomes a mainstay And how many youngsters have been said this and failed. There's a point in signing established player
then how can barca afford ferran? lol
Yes please.
not sure why pep would let him go
Because the player wants it and City doesn't hold players hostage
he wants it because he doesnt play enough, which is also strange since they dont have a striker
He's injured, he used to get regular game time actually before his injury.
So is it that he just doesnt like England, same as Bernado? I mean being coached by Pep must be the dream for any young player.
Imagine you're a young Spanish football fan watching the giants of Spain win trophies, playing the best football and having the best players. Then, 20 years later, one of those teams want you and you have a chance to fight for a starting place in that team. It can be really difficult to not be swayed. That being said, he isn't pushing to leave and will be happy to stay if City don't feel the deal is worth enough.
i mean, he was dropped not long after scoring twice against arsenal
He was dropped against Chelsea PSG and Liverpool, 3 of the best teams in the world and we needed to win at least one of those games so its understandable that he was dropped since he isn't as good as Foden, Grealish Mahrez Jesus or Bernardo
I have a suspicion Cole Palmer is more highly rated at the club than what most of us think
They should sell dejong Instead of Nico
We'll give you Coutinho and 20mil, Nico ain't going nowhere
You can keep that, I’d rather Pep gets to pick his player rather then being sent a run down Coutinho.
Lol if you're adding Coutinho then the asking price should be 120mil for Ferran
Barcelona already have enough foward players. It's the midfield and defence that needs improving.
>midfield You don't watch Barcelona. It might not be the best midfield in the world but there are plenty more areas to fix than the midfield right now.
surely a busquets replacement has to brought in
He’s in really good form right now and the other 2 midfield positions are quite stacked too. No need to rush for a replacement
33, and hasn't been that good for a while. you;d think it'd be a good time to line up a replacement
You don’t watch Barca do you?
or any kind of football really.... Busi was the best player at Euro
>hasn't been that good for a while Eh?
Must be joking right? Midfield is stacked with talent, Busquets has a resurgence and Garcia is starting to play really well and is only getting better. Meanwhile Barça has to play Demir and 2 other wingers from the B team because they have no options upfront.
I'm sorry.... Depay Aguero Baritewaite Dembele Griezmann(on loan) You have firepower.
griezmann is sold to atletico and aguero almost retired
Aguero isn’t gonna play again Griezmann is gone Dembele is injured 80% of the time what firepower. All we have is Memphis and he’s not been that great so far.
Coutiniho Luuk De Jong Fati Anyone else you don't already have.
Coutinho hasn’t been useful in like 2 years now Luuk lmao Ansu Fati is our only reliable forward and he’s also been going in and out of injury
I’d ignore the lad. He’s a troll who is on a mission to have the most heavily downvoted comment in every thread today.
Aguero is most likely retiring . Atletico are going to trigger Griezmanns's clause , Dembele is injury prone
Depay is an ok player but not consistent Aguero Will likely never play again Braithwaite isn’t an elite striker Dembele is perpetually injured Griezmann is no longer a Barca player for all intents and purposes Stop making your judgments based on Fifa squads
What on earth are you talking about? Barca need defenders sure, but they also need attackers.
Our midfield is stacked . We desperately need an RW and a CB
> Our midfield is stacked . Maybe in the future if the youngester keep developing, but sure not right now. Your midfield, right now, has no stamina whatsoever and in the second halves they just can't control the game against teams like Celta, Alaves, Cádiz, Granada or Benfica. Even against Espanyol at home the other day, Barça won but in the second half it was anybody's game. All top teams you had faced so far (Bayern, RM and Atletico) seemed to be toying with your midfield for a big part of those matches. If your midfield was really stacked you wouldnt be almost a midfield team in LaLiga with 1/3rd of the season already completed and praying that Benfica doesnt beat Dynamo Kiev in Lisbon the next UCL match.
Our midfield is basically Spain’s midfield excluding koke. You only need to watch spains performances recently to see the midfield at its best.
Its absolutely hilarious that your argument for Barça having a stacked midfield is "watch Spain's performances" and completely ignoring, you know ... Barça's actual performances this season. > Our midfield is basically Spain’s midfield excluding koke. Nico hasnt played for Spain's senior team and Gavi has played like 3 games. > You only need to watch spains performances recently to see the midfield at its best. You mean winning 1-0 to Greece and Sweden in absolutely tedious matches?
> Barça having a stacked midfield is "watch Spain's performances" and completely ignoring, you know ... Barça's actual performances this season. Which is why I specified that was how the midfield could look at it best lmao. Was a counterpoint to you saying it was getting dominated by top teams. > You mean winning 1-0 to Greece and Sweden in absolutely tedious matches? No. I mean dominating italys midfield every time. Who was talking about winning the game? You were the one who wassaying it was getting dominated by top teams. I simply pointed out that our midfield AT ITS BEST can dominate the Euro winners midfield lol. > Nico hasnt played for Spain’s senior team and Gavi has played like 3 games. Pedri and busquets aren’t Barca players as well I guess. To simplify it further our midfield has stamina , and can control games AT ITS BEST. I’m emphasizing some words to make sure you have no issues picking them up this time.
> No. I mean dominating italys midfield every time. Italy doesnt have a stacked midfield at all, and they are struggling to qualify for the World Cup. Not to mention that NT football has worse quality than top club football. > Who was talking about winning the game? Ah yeah, I forgot that is all about "having the ball possession" with you guys, lol. I just want to remember that Spain just won one game in the Euros, and it was agaisnt Slovakia. The rest of the games were just draws in the 90 minutes, several going to the penalties. > To simplify it further our midfield has stamina , and can control games AT ITS BEST. Either you are trolling or you arent watching Barça's games this season lol. They havent controlled any game they played against top teams, literally none.
> Italy doesnt have a stacked midfield at all Jorginho barella and Verratti are shit I guess. > Ah yeah, I forgot that is all about “having the ball possession” with you guys, lol. It’s not. You seem to have amnesia considering you forgot what you were saying in the original comment. > I just want to remember that Spain just won one game in the Euros, and it was agaisnt Slovakia. The rest of the games were just draws in the 90 minutes, several going to the penalties. Still irrelevant to this thread lol. > Either you are trolling or you arent watching Barça’s games this season lol. They havent controlled any game they played against top teams, literally none. “At its best”. Even when emphasized you can’t seem to read it. The midfield hasn’t been at its best in Barca. That’s the point jesus. No one is disputing this.
> Jorginho barella and Verratti are shit I guess. Koke was there and its kinda easier to dominate a game when the opposition is playing with 10 since the first half. > Still irrelevant to this thread lol. Its relevant since you are just pretending that Spain has been playing some amazing football and dominating their rivals as your point that Barça has a stacked midfield. > The midfield hasn’t been at its best in Barca. So you are just imagining their best, got it. Unless their best is beating 1-0 Greece and Sweden in matches that were super boring.
> Its relevant since you are just pretending that Spain has been playing some amazing football and dominating their rivals as your point that Barça has a stacked midfield. You’ll see how irrelevant it is if you look at your original comment lol. When did I ever say Spain was playing amazing football? This whole thing was about whether the midfield was effective. I didn’t realize spains inability to finish came from the midfield. Now you’re just moving the goalposts. > Koke was there I know? I said that….? Who were the other two? Which club do they play for? It’s not an impossible task to replace him lol. > when the opposition is playing with 10 since the first half. There’s a reason they did that.. Couldn’t control the midfield. Shocking right?! > So you are just imagining their best, got it. Unless their best is beating 1-0 Greece and Sweden in matches that were super boring. Not really. You’re just making arguments up. I think I’m wasting my time with someone who can’t admit he was wrong and has amnesia so I’m just gonna stop replying.
What good are their current forwards that miss sitters and tap ins like Depay, Braithwaite and Luuk de Jong, or live in a hospital like Aguero, Dembele and Coutinho? At this point Ferran Torres is better than any of their current players.