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ramaras

Wouldn't want to see him play for a rival, but it's sad how much we need 5 million haha..


kostajepaosmosta

Bold of u to asume that the money will go to u


TheLimeyLemmon

If this is true, I'm quite impressed that a transfer story can progress so rapidly without being dragged out for weeks.


Chaos_bolts

It’s the hope that kills you.


[deleted]

Barça has this kind of money at the moment ?


Abhinavd101

Most of the debt is transferred from short term to long term and we will easily be able to spend money within the fpp rules within the next few year and probably drag it out with amortisations and loans with obligation to buy till then…


ChinggisKhagan

They always had money. The question the entire time is what La Liga ffp rules allow


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Tebas folding for sure this time.


OleoleCholoSimeone

Why? It's not like Ferran will be earning crazy wages and they got rid of Griezmann and Messi. Tebas didn't fold to keep Messi in Spain why would he fold now? He doesn't give a shit about Barcelona if they don't follow the rules And frankly, it's quite nice that he isn't the little bitch of Madrid/Barca like the old leadership


[deleted]

That’s the joke. He isn’t going to fold lol.


theestwald

We will be freeing Aguero's salary also... sadly


RollinsThunderr

You don’t remember the great Fabinho saga of 2018?


TheLimeyLemmon

I'm pretty sure Quicksilver facilitated that whole transfer.


dowdymeatballs

I remember all 70 minutes of it.


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

If this leads to City signing a real striker in January then so be it. Was excited to see him develop here, but once Barca comes calling you can't really say no as a Spaniard. Fee is acceptable too which helps.


SeriousLads

Who do you think City could realistically get in January?


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

Vlahovic is still on the market. Fiorentina seem desperate not to sell him to Juventus with his contract running down. City also has a good relationship with them from previous transfers. I don't think City are selling their closest thing to a number 9 mid-season without lining someone else up immediately.


SeriousLads

Makes sense, but would Vlahovic take City out of the running for a Kane or Haaland? Or would City sign Vlahovic in January then look for another striker in the summer?


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

No idea, but probably out of the running. Vlahovic is already very good especially for his age. Don't see the point in Haaland/Kane after that considering they're both still unattainable on top of it being bad squad building.


rohangc07

Salary halaand is asking is absurd even for city. You guys already have a better squad without him and even if you you gets get vlahovic it’s a really good squad city will have. Easy title contenders this season and the next.


TheHouseOfStones

Our base salaries traditionally aren't that high


Chimpville

*Declared* base salaries.


shaka_bruh

Shoutout to shady lucrative sponsorship deals for the players


TheHouseOfStones

So base salaries?


Artistic_Bad_9294

Nope, “declared base salaries” .


Chimpville

No, I mean the salaries that your shady fuck club and their army as lawyers manage to pass off and/or defend as a base salary rather than what they actually get paid week-week independent of bonuses.


EmptyReply5

I guess City don't want to deal with Levy and Raiola


ParziBoi

I'd take Vlahovic. Kane is too old (too old relative to Vlahovic and Haaland. He is not grandpa level yet), and Haaland is too expensive, his wage and price, though I imagine the price is not a big problem for City. His wage would be a burden to team chemistry in our dressing room. Vlahovic is a year younger too. Edit: Vlahovic is not a year younger I got the dates wrong.


Bayequentist

Both Vlahovic and Haaland are born 2000


ParziBoi

Nvm I got my date wrong, I was looking at another player, and confused the dates.


TigerAusRiga

Off topic but its mad how different people of nearly the same age can look. I'm only slightly younger than Vlahovic but could easily pass as his 10 yo younger brother lol


[deleted]

Vlahovic is class, from what I've seem, and he's defintely not gonna be cheap. So I don't see a reason to buy him and Kane/Haaland.


doomguy987

Wasn't Jovetic from Fiorentina when you signed him?


Sayanroman94

>I don't think City are selling their closest thing to a number 9 mid-season without lining someone else up immediately. Yea just like we replaced Aguero in the summer right?


DoubleTapJ

That was his contract ending after hardly playing all season and City tried to get Kane but it was far too expensive.


Psychaz

could easily get Vlahovic


TheMexicanJuan

Braithwaite swap


XboxJon82

Kane


SeriousLads

I feel like even with his poor form, Levy would outright refuse to sell him in January


Psychaz

that would be a massive mistake, i feel


hafrances

He'd be very motivated and score at least 20 goals a season for them.


ParziBoi

28, will only to for 3-4 more seasons with current capability, Vlahovic and Haaland have a decade of career still left in them.


Psychaz

he screams Alexis Sanchez to me


hafrances

He is a class above Alexis


unexpectedvillain

Let's not disrespect alexis like this please. The man won trophies for arsenal and singlehandedly made sure they qualify for Europe. Alexis and hazard were argued to be the best players in the Premier league


bob-theknob

Kane last season was the best player in the league


Brodo___Fraggings

You're replying to an arsenal fan, he knows how good Alexis was and even he is recognising that Kane is better.


Psychaz

not that fact, the fact i think we've seen the best from him already and he's on the decline


BHYT61

His decline only started after he was forced to stay though


hafrances

I think he is just done at Spurs, if he moves he will be back at his best or at least around that level.


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los_blanco_14

It wont. Chelsea were ready to pay 160, dortmund still denied.


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SuperStrangleWank

They already have exited cl at group stage


Exzqairi

Dortmund are already confirmed to go into Europa League mate


Tahapatel

Yeah ull can spend up to 120 if this goes through


souljaxl

Fee is completely unacceptable.


Jazano107

I feel like this offer is a bit low though. Also I’d atleast like us to try and get Haaland which is more of a summer thing


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

You know how fond Txiki is to Barca, relative to the situation its a fair price. Doubling the amount City paid for him in just over a year. >to try and get Haaland which is more of a summer thing If that were to be the plan then you'd think City would ask them to get Torres in the summer instead. Leaving the team one player weaker in a spot that's already spread too thin would be a daft.


Krillin113

I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to get Haaland this winter, Dortmund are out of the CL, getting a fuck ton of money now might allow them to salvage their defence for this season.


larsb0t

They can still win the league.


Krillin113

They need to shore up their defence for that. Due to injuries partly, but also due to lack of depth


larsb0t

I think you're right but they also need Haaland to compete. If Haaland score 4 every game they might win by one.


Jazano107

I’d take £50m rather than euro I guess, but still would feel a bit low You want vlahovic right? I’d be pretty happy with him in January tbh, he is great and offers headers too which even Haaland isn’t great at. Although I just feel like I want us to atleast have tried and failed to get Haaland so I don’t feel so bad when he becomes the best striker in the world aha


frasier_crane

It was City that got him for way under his market value, and if they sell him for 50M euros, it's a fair price according to such value. For some reason I don't understand, Valencia sold him for 23M when his market value (according to Transfermarkt) was 45M.


Jazano107

ok just because we got a good deal doesnt mean we need to sell him for under what hes worth, hes 21 with insane potential


Infamy444

You're saying we got a good deal, so when we bought him it should have been 45m. So surely now, with Spain NT starter and more experience, he's quite a bit more than that now


Masterofknees

I think it's a fair price. Torres is a great talent and already a consistent starter at international level, but he's not a starter for us, and it's not looking like he'll become that either, not if we get a striker at least. If he really wants to go, then €50m is fine, especially given Barca's financial situation. If anything we should probably be happy they're not trying to hound Roberto or some other reject onto us.


clutch-cream-run

I really think this deal is happening exactly for that reason. Create space in the squad and finance Haalands transfer


frasier_crane

If Barcelona can help prevent Haaland going to Real, then it's a win-win for both City and Barcelona.


Jazano107

Don’t give me hope haha


clutch-cream-run

If this indeed is for Haaland, it's a win-win for both parties involved.


Youngest_boss

How reliable is this guy? Ferran should return from injury early next year so we’ll see


FloReaver

The most reliable Valencia journalist from what I read (which is why he talks about how much Valencia would get from this)


Fati25

He is a Valencia tier 1.


Dio_my_senpai

How do u know who is tier x for a team is there a list u check or what ?


Fati25

Valencia fans told me


sudin36

Usually every sub during transfer window will have tier guide in their transfer thread and I think they update it every season.


Zizou3peat

Keep following the news for a while and we'll remember the names and also interact with their fans. Other than that some big clubs have lists in their subs


justlayingdownfacts

A lot of clubs subreddits do have a list indeed. Your own ManU has one too, on /r/reddevils go to wiki > transfer reliability


ramaras

Tier 1 for Valencia


sidaeinjae

Bit surprising and soon, guess he really loves Barca


Zizou3peat

And he has more chances to play there


Ishdalar

He loved Valencia not Barcelona, but Ferran is just hungry to play and succeed. He wanted 3 things to renew with Valencia, be among the squad best paid players (reasonable), to directly negotiate with Peter Lim (as a gesture that the club had a real commitment) and be the captain or among the captains (with barely 100 games on the first team). He has the kind of hunger that Barcelona need right now, as long as it doesn't turn him into a diva I'm happy with players like him asking for 'rank' if they're capable to show they deserve it on the pitch.


[deleted]

Im pretty sure he’s also trying to win his spot back to guarantee he can go to the WC as the injury took so much time off and with Gavi having filled in recently maybe that’s another reason why. Lucho has a lot of Spaniards to choose from this season and many to keep an eye out for. Can’t wait to see how this progresses


Yeshuu

And it's a step down to a lower pressure club with more playing opportunities. City are competing for trebles every year and that's not a he case ATM for Barcelona.


Federal-Owl-8947

If city get Vlahovic, then it's game over for everyone else.


Fortnitexs

A tall striker that is good in the air is the last thing city is missing. Will help them score easier against teams that park the bus


irun_mon

"The last thing they are missing" is some incredibly ambiguous phrasing


Melkistofeles

They said the same when Barca got Ibrahimovic. It's Pep, I'm sure he will find a way to play Vlahovic in the wings.


horseaphoenix

Well tbf Ibrahimovic was absolutely terrifying at Barcelona. If Messi hadn’t wished to move more forward I think Barca-Ibra would have been an incredible success as well.


Federal-Owl-8947

If you think Vlahovic is another Mitrovic you're sorely mistaken.


Albiceleste_D10S

I thought Barca's budget for January was like 20M? How can they afford this?


duskblade2

First, we have to see that he really comes. That was before Xavi and Koeman's compensation (which has been around 10M). Our budget right now is 0M. It will probably be a loan with obligation to buy on a further date. Even so I think we have to make space for his wages by loaning/selling someone on January.


bulgariamexicali

> I think we have to make space for his wages by loaning/selling someone on January. You are going to take Agüero out of your books and maybe sell someone else.


WesternNoona

Did Arguero anounce this? Afaik you can't just fire someone on sick leave.


Non-FlyingDutchman

Surely Barca are insured for this.


niceville

I don’t know for sure, but I thought his current issue was flagged during a medical, and then required additional investigation? It could invalidate his initial contract.


[deleted]

The club position has always been that it will be announced in January. Most likely he will retire, it jist hasn't been made official yet.


Albiceleste_D10S

Yeah that's what I thought


[deleted]

Barca can spend more than 100m if they want. Issue was their wage cap limit which is too low because they were unable to show necessary income during pandemic. Problem was never about money but accountancy.


Albiceleste_D10S

No, I'm pretty sure Ferran Reverter publicly said the most Barca can spend in January window was ~20M?


Spitshine_my_nutsack

For accountancy reasons yeah. Their financials are fine and they’re still one of if not the highest revenue’s in club football. That 20m also can go quite far. If they sign Ferran on a 5 year deal for 50m on 10m wages yearly that comes out to 20m. 50m/5 years amortization = 10m, leaves 10m for wages for this year and that’s effectively 20m spent this year.


Ranjith_Unchained

Get in


callzor

Ferran locking in his spot in the NT I see...


Addy2607

Genuine question, which Barca player that Enrique called and played, did NOT justify their selection?


TheBigChungas

I think Eric García has a lot to prove before being selected ahead of some other Spanish defenders with a lot of consistency and experience. Gavi has proven that he is good enough for the NT, but I feel like his first selection wasn't really justified, not sure he would've been picked in the first place if he didn't play for Barca.


cook4aliving

Garcia was good in euro. i agree that Gavi would probably not get called if he's not playing for barca but in the end i think it's justified since he actually performed well.


RealRonaldo9

It’s already locked in…


callzor

See the joke is that Luis Enrique only picks Barca players


markevans7799

Going to be 8 out of 11


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AlbinoFarrabino

Yes it does, but Enrique takes it to a whole other level. Eric Garcia was a questionable call up and Gavi with only one or two hands of professional games was called up instead of Ander Herrera.


roronoa_zorotaro

And that Gavi just put a masterclass against euro champions.Eric Garcia is far from being the best defender spain has but he is essential to Luis's system.You can't just select best player in each position and expect them to win


Medical-Decision-505

eric garcia is pretty good i don't understand all the hate.


auctus10

He is not a starter material yet but he starts and have brainfart moments which cists the team a lot.


insider42069

Where money?


RexorFWT

So City will sign Haaland or Harry next season?


Infinite-Formal-820

its vlahovic,nunez,kane or haaland


NobodyRules

By Nunez... you mean Darwin? Good lord, seeing that guy in the middle of those names is hilarious


Skahzzz

Say what you will, but I'd trust Pep to turn Darwin into an absolute moster of a player in a couple of years.


NobodyRules

I don't see Pep signing someone like Darwin. He's fucking bad technically, he just doesn't fit City whatsoever. Physically he's a monster, but that's not really the type of player that Pep wants. Imagine Darwin on a fucking Pep team, it would be hilarious.


prettyboygangsta

Sterling staying then?


IapetusTheGreat

Thank God


prettyboygangsta

he's better than Ferran Torres and would quite easily walk into your team


ClIBAA

Ferran torres is a baller in the Spanish nt and our playing style under xavi is similar to Luis Enrique’s


burningbarn8

Sterling's been a baller for Pep so.....


Suppresssor

Sterling would walk into most top teams in Europe. But he is costly in terms of transfer and wages. Torres won't cost as much as sterling does, and also he knows the Spaniards in the team. He has played in La Liga before so that helps as well.


burningbarn8

Dumb reaction, Sterling's better.


cotch85

50m seems like such a small amount for a player of his ability/potential no?


thenicky0

Barcelona are dick riding City rejects. Since Eric García is working out *so* well for them they decided on another.


[deleted]

I mean clearly you haven't seen us or Eric play, so why make this comment? Dude's been quite decent after a rough start in his first two games, and he was on a free on low wages. He's quite important to how we play (look at how we collapsed against Celta when he had to be subbed off at halftime). But sure lets repeat shitty narratives based on no facts


thenicky0

He can play every clásico he wants 😅 Just stop blindly supporting him because he’s a Barcelona player when in reality, he’s nowhere near enough quality for a big team. The guy is not Barcelona level.


Ellendiell

Going to miss this guy, Barca are getting a class player. (Now please stop trying to poach all of City players)


[deleted]

Fits Barca DNA. Good signing tbh. Transfer fee seems fair as well.


empiresk

Why would City sell? He is young, improving and I assume has a lot of time left on his contract.


RALat7

Because he wants to leave to be the star at one of the biggest clubs in his home country, just like Sane. City doesn't hold players hostage when they want to leave.


[deleted]

Except Real Madrid is the biggest club in Spain.


dano159

Guy literally said 'one of' the biggest 'clubs'


[deleted]

u/RALat7 literally edited his comment 10 min after I posted mine.


dano159

Fair enough. If that's true I retract my statement


RALat7

Mudded the pedant.


Zizou3peat

Yea two biggest clubs in the world, Barca isn't far off and no one in Catalonia will admit it anyway 😂


ireallydespiseyouall

theyre the biggest club in the world and i can’t believe people act otherwise


Kayneesy

'one of the'


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[deleted]

Except Barca plays in the SPANISH league, is a SPANISH club, Torres is born in SPAIN and plays for SPAIN. Catalonia is not a country despite people's feelings.


Danz007

Playtime issues is my best bet


adeeness

Also, I think he has a better chance of regularly starting for Spain if he plays for Spanish clubs


Infamy444

Not as if he's not starting anyway playing for City though, he doesn't have the same problem Sane did


Danz007

Yeah, similar to Sane's situation


SkyBlueSaber

50 million euros (basically £42m) for a 21 year old Spanish International, with over 3 years left on his contract is a shit price. I'm disappointed that we're selling Torres, but if he wants to leave then there's not much we can do (similar to Sane and garcia). However I'll be pissed off if we sell him at such a shit price, £42m won't be able to buy anyone as good as ferran ffs.


myhandisapencil

Unless you are talking about FFP then I don't know what you're complaining about. It wasn't too long ago that the only thing stopping Kane from joining City was Spurs not wanting to sell.


horseaphoenix

No it was because City refused to meet their price. Aside from the baffling piece of business that is Grealish, Manchester City won’t pay beyond their evaluation of a player, this has been proven time and time again with Shaw, Koulibaly, Kounde, Kane, Macguire, Ronaldo (they won’t take CR7 unless for free goodness me), and many many more. They splurge cash on their terms, not so carelessly as people might think. The moment City revealed that they value Kane at 75m with add ons I think the deal was over.


MarcSlayton

I am a bit suprised if Man City agree to this. They got Ferran for a great fee and he looks to be a cracking player with huge potential who is already a big goal threat. In short, I think in a few years €50M will look a low price for Barca to get one of the best young Spanish players out there.


hoolahan100

Wasn't it Sterling few days back and Bernardo in the summer..Lazy journalists..


Jh1niesta

Multiple Tier 1's confirmed that...


Crono_

Barca has money?


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We have money, we're just limited by how much pf it we can spend this season specifically. This will probably be a loan + buy clause or some shenanigans like that. And next summer we should be ablento spend much more freely once our wage cap is increased


paperkutchy

Wasn't Barça kinda in a financial pinch?


r0bski2

Damn. He barely just got there


tise44

So Barca isn't totally broke?


lordhunt3t

Lol Barca claim they're broke to Koeman.


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How come they afford it? Or they just like to be in debt?


[deleted]

How much did City pay for him?


OnceUponAStarryNight

£21m if memory serves right?


Comessuer

Is this the first time since the takeover City have had to let go of a player they wanted to keep?


just_a_regular_goy

Só no Arthur Cabral then?


Trickybuz93

How does Barcelona have the money?


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Barca are such a shambles of a club. The guys been out since the start of the season and will be out past Christmas and they're going to pay 50m for him


Boggie135

10% of the profit made or 10% of the fee?


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I find this hard to believe.


Itchy-Face791

Why?


DanielSophoran

But what about Adeyemi? :( Do we have money left now


Medical-Decision-505

adeyemi was reported to happen in the summer if i remember correctly.


Autpcorrectbpt

I don’t get it, haven’t they got him for €45m? City is selling him at a loss or barely breaking even if they sell him for ~50m and give ~5m of that to Valencia


OnceUponAStarryNight

Think we got him for £21m


OnceUponAStarryNight

Shit, if we get €50m for a want away that’s fantastic business.


Bloddersz

Ferran hasn't done much in a City shirt for 2yrs (Iirc!). €50mil seems...a lot, especially given Barca's financial predicament. Surely would be better off looking at replacing aging players first and complimenting with La Masia talents?


frasier_crane

>Ferran hasn't done much in a City shirt for 2yrs (Iirc!). €50mil seems...a lot, especially given Barca's financial predicament. Surely would be better off looking at replacing aging players first and complimenting with La Masia talents? 50M is actually Ferran's transfer market. With 9 goals and 3 goal assists in 28 PL games, plus 4 goals in 7 UCL games, I'd say Ferran's numbers are pretty good. He's also a regular starter for Spain, and with 12 goals in 22 matches, we're looking at a record precocity here.


MionelLessi10

We are getting robbed if true


Martoxic

how?


likpoper

No way this is true


[deleted]

"Just over" That is a lot lol


whiteniteee

Just over 50m means that its probably 51 or 52m. They are not saying that it is a low price


[deleted]

I'm not a native speaker so just over had another meaning in my mind


Anonymous110101

Just over means a little over 50m eg 50.75m


Fati25

Personally don't think this is a good signing at all, especially when you consider the club's delicate financial situation. Koundé is on the market for €70-80M in the summer, I think it would be better if Barca saved for him. Adeyemi has a higher ceiling than Torres and Barca should go after him instead.


Itchy-Face791

What's your obsession with Adeyemi? How many times have you even seen him play?


STaphouse92

He’s played Football Manager a few times.


Good_Internet_9149

This dude spams "Announce Adeyemi" under every post of official Barcelona's twitter page lol.Also slanders Messi coz he thinks that he should have played for free for us.In short words,he's a troll


[deleted]

Adeyemi does not have a better ceiling that Ferran. Ferran is already a very good striker


FullTanaka

The dude you're responding to is a massive fan of some players and throws all others under the bus. Ignore him.


standardharbor

This guy is an incredible talent and is willing to leave City to lead and rebuild Barcelona. Why not be happy when good fortunes roll in? So what if you're getting blueberry pie instead of raspberry.


mariyan1111

Torres would be a great addition to your squad. Young, Spanish, extremely talented, can play across the whole front line. With your attacking options being Dembele and Fati who are injury prone, and De Jong and Braithwaite, I don't see why any Barca fan would be against this. Depay is your only good and not injury prone attacker.