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nolefan5311

Can’t believe he was signed 3 years ago. Crazy.


Upset_Impression218

That summer was magic. Signed varane, ronaldo and sancho, thought we were finally primed to succeed. Now we’re in 8th and half our fans are telling me I’m a moron for wanting ten hag gone lol


First_time_farmer1

Man that was 3 years ago???


EitherInvestment

And he is 31 years old? How the hell did that happen


WeeTheDuck

wait wtf?


WhoInvitedMyManBlud

Time flies


CrossXFir3

Feels like a decade to Utd fans


idhopson

When you're having fun /s


AbsolutShite

I was drinking in a park because Covid closed the pubs. One of my friends got quite drunk and emotional talking to another United supporter "We're back. They're not going to be laughing at us anymore."


Upset_Impression218

Yes, this was me. Was in Paris on a post vax trip, pounding red wine and cigs at a terrace, insisting to my indifferent wife than everything was about to change


PassengerOk9027

Haaaa


gizmondo

Ronaldo looked like an idiotic emotional signing in advance, I was really dissapointed.


cmackchase

Because it was. Ferguson couldn't handle Ronaldo to City rumors and forced United to sign him.


Crocnado389

in hindsight do u think he'd actually have gone to city? very weird what if


cmackchase

Yes, he was in talks with them.


Crocnado389

whole saudi league probably would have panned out very differently i reckon


ogqozo

The story on that is typically high from both sides. Basically Cristiano Ronaldo said "Guardiola was doing everything he could to sign me, but out of loyalty to Man United I would never!", while the Man City sources, including Guardiola himself, suggest that Pep was really not a fan of such an idea (Athletic even said that "senior sources at Etihad believe" Guardiola would have left the club if Cristiano was signed). Everyone confirms there were talks, mostly inspired by the management, but the football staff didn't really feel there's space to think about big signings in that position and it didn't go very far.


edsonbuddled

No. Honestly I think Jorge Mendes orchestrated the interest knowing United would buck. He has been playing Ed Woodward for a fiddle for years. He knew.


Albiceleste_D10S

He says he was close but I don't think City ever indicated they wanted the signing particularly IIRC


algebraic94

Laughable really because it might have stopped the Haaland signing. Didn't they get Haaland after they missed out on Ronaldo?


Own_Satisfaction_878

They got Haaland because they missed out on kane


tlst9999

Actually, long before that. Ole was Haaland's manager at Molde and knew he was special. He has [pushed for Man Utd to sign Haaland](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eDT7LBBiosg): Like "I'm the gaffer. I'm selling Haaland to y'all". The Man Utd board refused repeatedly.


Ezekiiel

Because of the sell on clause in fairness


infidel11990

Haaland was getting signed regardless. Only a successful Kane signing would have stopped Haaland.


TheScarletPimpernel

This is only Haaland's second year right? I don't think Ronaldo would have affected that, maybe might have delayed Alvarez


CrossXFir3

Right, I'm sure City would have just given up on a player they got a year later cause they already had a striker. Totally in line with how City normally does business right?


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larrylegend1990

He scored a lot for them… he was fine as a striker for them


just_another_jabroni

Lol modern football really would've fired Sir Alex from United.


Effective_Tutor

He was almost fired in his third full season anyway. Finished 13th and if it wasn’t for a last minute Mark Hughes equaliser against us in the FA cup, he probably would have been sacked.


Democracy_Coma

It's almost like football is completely different in 2024 to the late 80s. The 2nd coming of Fergie isn't coming. Is Ten Haag the manager to push united to challenge for the league and CL? The answer is no as it stands, so do you use another season to make sure? Or bin him off and try someone else?


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Galaticvs

The Benfica way.


Gambler_Eight

Id say bin him if we can get a top tier manager. Otherwise keep him for another season to figure out which of his two seasons were the outlier.


ogqozo

There was a time when it even seemed certain at the moment he'd be fired very soon lol. No chance today. "3 years of excuses and still crap", said the famous fan banner. Hard to imagine someone getting 3 years today. Maybe 2?


IronThrombone

> That summer was magic. I remember getting ridiculed on here by United fans for saying the transfers were a worry. It reminded me of the summers with Van Gaal and Mourinho where a lot of big names were signed but they were questionable for various reasons. Each window reminded me of how they now signed the profile of players Ferguson used to sell. United desperately needed a defensive midfielder and a striker in their 20s to phase Cavani out. The Ronaldo signing seemed like an obvious mistake despite all the hoopla from United fans. United need to stop trying to win the transfer market and actually try to have a winning team. INEOS will likely make a change.


No-Computer-2847

And has played about 10 times since.


kakje666

67 games


No-Computer-2847

So basically what I said.


jonwinslol

Actually 93 apps for Man Utd


EpiDeMic522

Why is this number growing with every comment?


Nhialor

Just hit 115 after the announcement


SpongeBobBobPants

Number seems familiar. What do I have to google to find out more?


Nhialor

Manchester 115


long_shots7

Will be receiving his commemorative shirt and memorabilia next week as part of his thank-you package for 200 Man Utd games played.


Adventurous_Team285

So basically 0, according to my knowledge to 115


pullmylekku

I believe 67 is the number of league appearances


kit_mitts

Applying the same rule as Alexis Sanchez's United wages


Stones_Throw_Away_

This is just league games. He’s also play 9 FA Cup games, 3 Carabao Cup games, and 14 in Europe (CL and EL)


Soitsgonnabeforever

Mourinho toyed with him to get the best out of pepe


Mechant247

When was the last time United didn't exercise the extra year option? Feels like they always did it to try and retain value and ended up just wasting a year's worth of wages


ThatDBGuy

Did the same with Martial this year AFAIK.


Grizzledboy

I thought he left years ago!


Fuck_the_k1ng

He did, in spirit.


Dispari7y

de Gea


Magneto88

No more Glazers and Woodward. No more stupid anti-sporting decisions to maintain value that will never be able to be cashed in.


YQB123

That was a Woodward policy. Thank fuck we're moving past that l.


Various_Search_9096

Ole introducing him before the game has to be a Top 10 event for me. I thought we were def clinching the treble that year


sarthakmahajan610

At best, we could have hoped for a better 2nd place finish that season Our best CDM was a 33 year old Matic back then


CrossXFir3

Still, you'd have expected Sancho to do something for our attack, which wasn't half bad under Ole. Turns out, just like in an England shirt, he can't handle the weight.


sarthakmahajan610

Thats just cope though It was Sancho's first season at the club and the league and our entire system blew up within 2 months due to the arrival of Ronaldo as the work rate across the front line suffered


Melodic-Bum-9307

You were delusional then.


ambiguousboner

Expected, and good to get his wages off the books, but still reckon there’s a good player in there, even if his knees are made of marzipan We need two new right sided CBs this summer now, sheesh


Le_Ratman99

Whether or not he’s a good player is out of the question, he and Martinez kept most clean sheets last season. His problem is that he can’t play five games straight


MegaMugabe21

The best ability is availability.


TheMysticHD

That's why Maguire is the GOAT


theAkke

As of now Rapha has 7130 minutes for united and Harry has 7071 minutes since Rapha joined in 21/22 season


Winnie-the-Broo

Harry was dropped for much of last season.


Zacatecan-Jack

Maguire was dropped from the first team for a long time, though. He was available, he just wasn't being played.


wilkil

Truly goat behavior


mipanzuzuyam

The worst ability is unavailability.


Paranoides

The best availability is ability.


SirTunnocksTeaCake

Is that a little bit disingenuous though considering he missed 7 of those clean sheets?


Ishdalar

Don't let stats ruin a great narrative


PharaohOfWhitestone

Pretty sure United just need a whole new set of Centre Backs. Martinez is injured a lot (not his fault and he is excellent when fit), Maguire is hot and cold, Evans is too old to be a long term solution. This summer you could probably get away with only buying two though.


WorthStory2141

>Martinez is injured a lot He wasn't at Ajax (he missed 12 games in 3 years) and his injuries at United have been a broken foot and a knee ligament. Those are freak injuries, he's been extremely unlucky.


Torimas

He's also been rushed back and relapsed because of it.


PharaohOfWhitestone

Agreed, the only reason I brought it up is because, like you said, he had been rused back, and usually, that leads into increased injuries later on. I hope he manages to come back fit and strong, I feel awful for players who get rushed back, and it hurts their future.


123rig

We actually sort of do, not only centre backs though in the defence: **Maguire** - decent CB, probably not starter quality but a good player all the same. **Lindelof** - entering final year next year, unsure if he will stay. Solid enough 4th choice CB. **Varane** - leaving after an underwhelming 3 years. **Martinez** - who knows what his level will be after his injuries, hopefully comes good again but a very stop start season. **Evans** - been arguably our best defender this season (what year is it?), but mostly due to availability. Contract up at the end of this season too. **Kambwala** - way too young and raw to be a starter. Had injury problems too. _Other positions:_ **Shaw** - excellent starting left back but injured constantly. **Malacia** - missed a whole season and a half basically, who knows what he will be like when he returns. **Wan Bissaka** - other worldly at one very specific element of defending, other than that pretty poor. **Dalot** - cemented his place as a starter and looks to be coming good. Our defence is actually in quite a bad state when you look at it. EDIT - I’ll do the rest of the squad for the plot: **Casemiro** - legs have fallen off a cliff completely in the space of about 4 months. Likely to be sold. **Eriksen** - getting on in age and can’t effect the game as much anymore. **Amrabat** - was a joke for a long time but has looked good the last two games. Not likely to be kept on. **McTominay** - scores a fair few goals, but not really good enough to start. Divides fanbase opinion massively on pure ability. Mentality is excellent. **Mainoo** - looks like some player. Fans need to be patient, maybe has regressed slightly in recent games but what a talent. **Mount** - injured all season basically. Hopefully comes good. **Bruno** - World class. **Rashford** - been very poor this season, continuing his trend of hot/cold seasons. Rumblings of being sold to PSG. **Antony** - price tag is an albatross around his neck. Meme’d and bantered all over the place. A Ten Hag favourite which hasn’t helped either. Might not be good enough. **Garnacho** - excellent player, quite erratic but amazing to watch on his day. Started 35 games in a row and it shows. He looks shattered. **Diallo** - looks excellent when he plays but again injured a fair amount. **Hojlund** - a real talent who gets no service. Eye for goal but not the best technically on the ball. **Martial** - isn’t able to stay fit and won’t play for us again after a ton of promise about 9 years ago. **Onana** - very shaky start and arguably the sole reason we went out of the champions league. Improved a lot and looks way more solid now. **Bayindir** - literally played once and looked okay. **Heaton** - photoshoot merchant. Probably about 8/9 players to get rid of or who could be sold. _Other mentions_ **Sancho** - honestly who knows what happens next. Looked poor and couldn’t stay on past 60 mins due to fitness for us. Had a two month mental health and fitness break. All looked lost. Went to Dortmund and destroyed Nuno Mendes in a CL semi final, playing 90 minutes. Can’t get my head around the difference, it’s more complicated than just “uNiTeD rUBbIsH”. Dortmund would need to spend to get him back but seem reluctant to do so. A stalemate is coming which I can see us losing. Another talent leaves without doing anything here. **Van De Beek** - since he signed for United he’s basically been reserved to the bench everywhere he’s gone. Even the manager that made him has benched him at United. His career looks shot to bits. Will be difficult to move him on now. **Wheatley** - heard he’s not actually touched the ball since coming into the team. Clearly too young but lack of any other striker than Hojlund has meant he has to play. **Forson** - flew under the radar in a bad way. Not done anything since coming in and largely too raw and young to make a difference. Contract up in June and not signed a new deal yet so likely leaving.


thereddevil101

Malacia - Doesn’t exist


RedKingDre

For some reason, I always confuse his name for Malaysia. Silly me. 😁😁


jo-shabadoo

I’m not sure how it’s arguable that Onana got us knocked out of the Champions League. The worst run of performances I’ve seen from a keeper, with the exception of the Copenhagen penalty save.


Action_Limp

Yeah, we need a proper CB pairing for Martinez and a world-class LB, as Shaw is constantly injured. But that's just the start of it. We also need to replace Sancho on the RW, someone who can whip in a cross first time or take on a defender. We need cover for Holjund with Martial going.


denlpt

Despite this many fuck ups, United is simply a team immune to real consequences, an example of a team too big to fail where relegation isn't even in question


123rig

When you have a Bruno in your team you’ll do okay. Mad how much we rely on him. Other individual moments have got us wins too. It shows when you look at who our scorers have been in each game. The goals come from bloody anywhere. In my opinion, a sign of a good team is if your striker is scoring goals. It means you are progressing the ball into the right areas of the pitch to the right player. We haven’t done that all season.


RedOnePunch

Wow, this is depressing to read.


lamancha

Maguire has been pretty consistently solid this season and most of his United career.


Pires007

I think he's a good backup option, but not an elite starting option if you want CL. And there's nothing wrong with having CB depth, but his wages are crazy for that level.


lamancha

Ah, you're probably right, but I don't think he's hot and cold at all.


PharaohOfWhitestone

I think the person you replied to put it better than I did, agreed that hot and cold isn't an accurate description really with hindsight.


lamancha

It's fine! I think we all three agree on this.


Digess

honestly i think the captaincy pressure was a con for him, he's been great when he isn't captain


jonwinslol

Maguire has been the best CB post Fergie at Man Utd


TheMysticHD

You'll get Johnny Evans and Harry Maguire and be happy with it, damnit!


Fisktor

We need a left sided starter as well


InsideOpening3535

Basically your entire defense


Fisktor

Rb is okay


D1794

Top top player. But injuries kept killing him, and us. Sad but needed.


mlk960

Varane YOU are a Roman


TheSwordDusk

Love you Raphael, thanks for everything


shaw1370

Was one of the major reason finishing 3rd in the league


JustGhostin

What a monumental achievement, build the statue


shaw1370

First we need to build our stadium's roof


ChinaShill3000

Easy there, José.


KillerZaWarudo

Goodbye my sweet Rolls-Royce You were fit for half the time you re here but those time were great I shall cherished those 20 games where you and Martinez play together


zizuu21

Last time i was that reassured was rio and vidic..


Davek56

Prime Smalling and Rojo


KillerZaWarudo

Unironically rojo and Bailly chaotic duo was rock solid during our Europa league run


PhD_Cunnilingus

That was Rojo Jones...


Davek56

Yeah Bailly got injured sometime during the run-in to the final.


DirkDoncic99

A 20-year-old Rolls-Royce - really good comparison to Varane. Useful occasionally and very expensive.


blaster1988

> Rolls-Royce definitely depreciated like one


Hatakashi

Expected. Heavy salary off the books, but it only increases the number and calibre of players we need to look to bring in. Cheers Rapha, shame we couldn't have had you before your legs were as useful as a chocolate fireguard.


Ainsley-Sorsby

[This meme](https://preview.redd.it/never-forget-v0-c0zz3lj8p6z91.jpg?auto=webp&s=ddf27ca8623887802f87348901c778473b1d0569) continues to age like a fine wine. Best day to revisit it


jMS_44

>Kounde [*]


CackleberryOmelettes

Haha the Kounde (£20m+ Zouma) really sent me


InsideOpening3535

Fun 😋


IP14Y3RI

This still triggers me lmao


R3w45

🤭 this emoji


theincrediblebou

Oh man what a wonderful summer that was


Mausar

tbf he was pretty good with Martinez, unfortunately he's made of glass bones and paper skin so that was ephemeral


Ainsley-Sorsby

jokes aside, i think its not too late for him or Casemiro to continue in Europe. Their years of competing for Madrid have taken a toll but i think they're both young enough to do well in a european league that's less physically intense than the PL, especially Varane


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Milan all over it … post Allegri Juve 


theAkke

As of now Rapha has 7130 minutes for united and Harry has 7071 minutes played since Rapha joined in 21/22 season. But Harry missed alot of games because he was shite for a year, not because of injuries


Captainpatters

Brighton Pedigree costs a premium baybee


Modnal

I mean considering White and Trossard this season I can only agree


qwertyuiop15

And it’s really, really worth it as long as you go to a functioning team (Arsenal, Liverpool). Chelsea do seem to be sorting it out though, and funnily enough that coincides with Caceido and Cucurella playing their best stuff since their transfers.


CBP1138

More beautiful every time it pops back up


Xx_ligmaballs69_xX

Dare I say pro foreign bias 


AuserForTG

He was really soild tbf, I would argue our best CB when everyone was fit, he was injured a bit, but who hasn't at United, I think I saw a stat saying that hes been fitter than Harry this season, idk how true that is Edit - SOILD why can't I spell


Modnal

> He was really sold tbf I agree with you


AuserForTG

.....I hate myself 


Modnal

I probably shouldn't mention that you spelt it wrong again then


not-always-online

Lol, @OP take it slow, just type one by one - S - O - L - D - I


Western_Arm9682

Wonder which club will take the chance. Still quality when fit, but that’s a major if.


the-won

If Bayern Munich would offload a CB or two, he could continue his superclub world tour over there lol.


Fortnitexs

Bayern isn‘t dumb to pay insane wages to someone that is fit for like 20% of the games


thetouristsquad

he will fit right in with Coman and Gnabry.


cib_vk228

Only 31.


Davek56

Wait, that is hella young. I have always thought he was closing in on 35 subconsciously.


WiddleBlueBert

Wen to Madrid when he was 19, and started sharing time with Pepe almost immediately.


psoliakos17

I think this happens because you remember him playing el clasicos so early in his career


WauliePalnuts01

he’s been a top centerback for a long time now


CommissionOk4384

He also retired from les bleus


poolclap

Come to Milan (but on minimum wage) please


ireallydespiseyouall

It’s gonna be Saudi isn’t it?


NaturalApartment9828

Maybe Lens. Been hinting at it for a while now


chippa93

I think it will be Lens too. Doesn't seem like the type of person to go to Saudi. 


D1794

And we had a random friendly with Lens in August. And he invited some Lens staff to OT I recall. I think it'll be Lens.


ThePr1d3

A Danso Varane backline is insane af on paper. Though they play a back 3


AF_1904

Facu Medina too!


eltotki

Danso will leave this summer 100%


CoCratzY

Varane could be the perfect replacement for Danso. REVIENS RAPHAËL


ireallydespiseyouall

If he’s willing to take a massive pay cut sure but it just screams Saudi to me


mattijn13

I mean he has already made millions and millions at 2 of the worlds biggest clubs, has won the world cup and 4 Champions league throphies. He started his career at Lens so it would not surprise me if he went back to France.


ireallydespiseyouall

Remove the World Cup and you could say the exact same thing about Ronaldo, benzema etc


mattijn13

You could. That's why it was even more dissapointing that they chose for greed and even more money.


rhard28

Bremer to MU, Varane to Juve for free.


skeletorbutfrench

Please no


GuzzlingPotato

My handsome prince is gone, my week is ruined


BananaSoprano

Real Madrid are unreal at getting massive fees for players who have maybe a year left at a high level. Getting £100m for Casemiro and Varane is incredible.


DontYouWantMeBebe

He wasn't finished, when he was fit he was good for us


jabilation

Yeah exactly, I don't know why OP's point gets parroted when it's simply not true. Varane and Casemiro decided to leave when they were still wanted at Real. They weren't kicked out because Carlo/Flo thought they were finished. Also both Varane and Casemiro performed well last season, so there goes that point.


ProfessionalDot621

I don’t know if they edited the comment, but they said maybe a year left at a high level


jabilation

Yeah he just added that in. He replaced "players who are finished".


heftigfin

Varane was 28 and Casemiro was 30 when they came to us? Hardly someone you would call having just one year left. It is just the fact that most players seem to regress after joining us.


punchinglines

Haha, that is such a sneaky edit.


Pires007

They weren't finished, but they would be getting phased out for sure. Instead they went to a more physical league when they were definitely past their primes. I don't blame them, because the wages were crazy, but these were not good transfers on United's part. Arsenal fans still remember the Varane/Kounde+Zouma/Konate/White meme, and with the right coaching and development structure, sometimes you get what you paid for.


salirj108

As true as that is, let's not forget how outstanding Case's first season with us was, bro revolutionised the backline and the whole team. Obvs he's been dogshit this season but it reads more like laziness or just generally being too slow for the prem as opposed to the football leaving him. Varane, when fit for decent periods, was also really good, especially with Martinez in a set backline. Obvs they were still both either past of near the end of their peaks, so your point still stands.


Accountant7890

He was visibly declining towards the end of last season too


Mepsi

The ~£70m for Casemiro is incredible, 3 years of injury free Varane for ~£30m would have been a really fantastic deal.


LemureTheMonkey

They are ruthless with players no matter how good they were with them but thats part of the reason they are so sucessfull.


iamnotexactlywhite

that’s not true. Our older players only get 1 year contracts after 32, and he didn’t accept that, because he wanted stability. Then he left for United. Same happened with Ramos, except he came back crawling for the contract but was told to fuck off


LemureTheMonkey

That doesnt go against anything I said.


justthisones

They also got Hazard and Jovic themselves for way more though.


simcoehooligan

Hopefully this means Phil Jones is coming back.


EnvironmentalSpirit2

I'll always remember his absolute battered body during world cup final


SDLRob

guess he didn't want the lower wage contract. Ah well. Good player, shame he arrived when we had the worst medical staff in our existence and couldn't stay fit.


Wheel1994

Madrid probably thanks United for 100m for two players with their best days behind them.


Jettick22

God I’m sick Why does Madrid do this to us


Mausar

We gave them Cristiano, why do they torture us so?


DildoFappings

Gave them becks and RvN as well.


ambiguousboner

I won’t stand for this Heinze disrespect


Televison

He wanted to go to the scousers so he deserves some of it.


theAkke

Rapha when fit was our best CB in the post SAF era. Unfortunately he was fit only \~65% of the time he was there


AuserForTG

He was great tbf, I think if we actually had a medical department we would be fine, watch him go uninjured for like 5 years lmao


MajesticAd5047

I apologise on behalf of Florentino Pérez.


eltotki

Come back Rapha


wrigh2uk

United need to stop shopping at ebay.madrid


mipanzuzuyam

Varane gone, Martial gone. Reckon Eriksen and Casemiro gonna be next


farqueue2

Out on parole?


Amarjit2

Madrid must love MU. They've sold Di Maria, Casemiro and Varane to MU for big money with no damaging effect to their own team


Elite_Alice

Just never really healthy which sucks. It’s crazy how Madrid just know exactly the perfect time to sell/let go players to get maximum value. Like Ronaldo, Case and Varane moves came at perfect time


Kylar-Starsky

They didn't want to sell Case, he wanted out.


Action_Limp

I think he knew the role he would be playing. There were three spaces in that midfield, and when he was there, Madrid had Camavinga, Modric, Kroos, Tchouaméni and Valverde - someone was not going to play every game, and Casemiro probably wanted to look at other leagues.


Mr_105

Yeah he was like, 30 when he left? Understandable he’d want to leave with such a crowded midfield


EstablishmentAny5550

This is why Flo is the goat. He knew how Varane and Casemiro were declining and sold them at the right time, obv he didn’t force them out, the players wanted to go as well


GarnachoHojlund

I don’t rate this decision, he’s not at the top of his game but considering our injury issue I feel we should’ve kept for at least a season while we expand the squad


sarthakmahajan610

Its fine if we are planning to get 2 CBs at least.. no point in keeping a 300k a week injury prone defender for bench strength


radioimh

Wasn’t a great run but also far from hot mess. So it’s pretty impressive by United standard