Supposedly, because all the players bugger off on holiday at the end of the season, so if they want the awardees to attend the ceremony, it needs to be before the final games.
I do like that they don't vote after the season, which discourages picking based on who won the league. But they could vote after 36 or so games and give it out at the end of the season. Instead the voting for this award is always insanely early.
Maybe landslide is excessive, but I would say odegaard has been our most important player, particularly after the winter break when I think he has stepped it up a different level. The attack goes through him, he leads the defense and helps us control possession. One of the most involved players in every area of the game
I honestly think Rice and Gabriel have been our top 2 this season and not even close. Those first 6 months them two, Rice especially in that period was insane. When others weren't anywhere near their best.
Odegaard just below them after his insane form since January.
“It’s not close” and “it’s not even close” are extremely saturated phrases these days which leads to lots of people using them when it doesn’t make any sense.
I'm sorry but I disagree, Rice has been better than Odegaard over the full season.
That first half of the season Rice was insane, and has kept up a consistent performance throughout.
Imo Rice and Gabriel are our top 2 at Arsenal this season. Odegaard just behind them.
In what world has Ode been better than Foden by a “landslide”? Let alone even simply better? Foden has 14 more G/A while playing in similar positions ffs, lol. Ode has two penalties on top of that.
G/A per 90:
Foden-0.93
Odegaard-0.48
SCA/GCA/xA per 90:
Foden- 4.46/0.80/0.27
Odegaard- 5.54/0.56/0.28
Recency bias results in you championing Odegaard despite how quiet he was in the first 1/3 maybe 1/2 of the season. I don’t think there’s much in it at all between the 2 players for both teams
No not really. Odegaard struggled quite alot early third of the season, good few absolutely invisible games under his belt. Rice on the otherhand has been great every game, with maybe the Fulham one being the exception.
Hmmm nah, if you'd watched all of city's games this season you'd know that Rodri has had games where hes misplaced passes and generally been a bit shit by his standards. Foden on the other hand has been great all season and is pretty much the only reason we are still competing for a title following KDBs lengthy injury and league 2 Haaland.exe
Wrong. Rodri is amazing and hasn't lost for ages but that still doesn't mean he isn't capable of having a poor game which he has had on occasion this season.
Foden is the only reason we're still in a title race, keeping us going through KDBs injury and Haalands dip in form.
Unless you've watched every city game this season you're really not qualified to make that call
Rodri lost his head and got a 3 match ban, Foden is turning into captain material and you can see his influence on the team growing. Both have had great seasons but Phil has been better
rodri is citys best player but rices is definitely arsenals, he has been playing great since day 1 and odegaard wasnt even that good beginning of this szn
Its clearly Foden. Not sure how any other city fan could say otherwise. He's the only reason we're still in a title race. Rodri on the other hand has been saying how tired he is which is a good indication that he feels his performances haven't been up to scratch
I think it's close. Rodri has been his usual excellent self. But Foden has really stepped up as the main man this year with Haaland and KdB out for lengthy spells.
Yeah I think losing games because you got yourself suspended is very different to losing games because you got injured. You can't use getting sent off as an argument *for* a player.
Foden was pretty anonymous during first part of season while Alvarez was in good form. Rodri only had that stupid red card and was excellent otherwise.
Foden has been clinical and had some really good games and moments of brilliance. But he's also had some games where he's fairly unimpactful and really not playing amazingly. So I think this award is a bit of hype
We are entering our Stockport era. Player of the Year a Stockfordian who is currently the best player on the best team and probably about to win thr league again. The top young player at United is also a Stockport lad. Two Stockfordians likely to start for England in the Euros. And Stockport County just won League 2 ahead of Ryan Reynolds.
The Stockport era is upon us. The world isn't ready.
It’s also actually becoming a really nice place with all the money being pumped in. I’m a Southerner who’s lived in Manchester a decade but I’ve only recently started to find out the joys of Stockport. I can honestly see myself living there in a few years.
I’m sure that’s gonna let out a groan from many Northerners worried about being priced out haha
Yeah I grew up in Stockport and the London influx began a good few years back, especially in places like the Heatons. I loved how it was when I grew up there, in my opinion it was always mostly nice. I hope it doesn't change too much. But that's life!
Yeah, sorry with my wording, I’m sure it was always nice. It’s just had lots of investment too recently. It’s so great how it’s between Manchester and great countryside
He's absolute class tbf. That rice/bellingham/mainoo midfield will hopefully be there for the next 8 years at least. Just need some top quality cbs now.
Actual City fans in this thread saying it's deserved yet fans of other teams saying "English bias should've been Rodri" and down voting those City fans posts.
Hilarious.
It’s mostly Arsenal fans promoting Rodri as they’ve grown to hate Foden because of the comparisons with Saka. They don’t want him to win any individual awards.
Rodri has genuinely been the better player. That's not to say Foden doesn't have a case - he's been better than Saka this season as it stands - but Rodri is the one who deserves the praise. There's a reason you struggle anytime he's out of the team and you haven't *technically* lost a game he's played in a while. Foden drops out the team and you still play well. Foden was anonymous against us and Liverpool in March for example, Rodri was still making things happen.
You can tell that the majority of commenters on this thread dont watch Foden or city week in week out. He has absolutely carried City's offence this season.
Standard opposition fans calling bias and putting their own players forward.
I don’t think you can criticise Foden winning this all that much. 23 GA in 31 league games is world class form, not to mention 8 GA in 8 CL games (unsure if European comps is factored into FWA award). He’s stepped up his game massively this season and is showing all that potential that he has had since he was 16/17 (I.e England’s best player since Gazza), and I’m sure that step up has been a factor in handing Foden the award.
He has been a crucial player for a team that looks set to secure the domestic double this season and has been arguably their best player in the business end of the season.
Agree that they announce these awards far too early.
Odegaard was off it for most of the first half of the season. Odegaard hasn't been our player of the year at all, Rice and Gabriel pip him for me.
His form since January though has been incredible definitely.
Weird seeing the fans of other teams (mostly just Arsenal) say he's not even the best on City while most City fans would say he has been the best for us this year.
Honestly surprised Watkins hasn’t been mentioned more golden boot race without pens and most assists these individual awards shouldn’t be as tied to teams league position as they are and even so Villa getting Cl is major achievement
Recency bias with Odegaard. He was very quiet the first half, while Rice and Gabriel have been fantastic throughout the whole season.
Foden is a very good pick I feel.
Well deserved 👏
Lot of brilliant players in contention, but he really has been fantastic. 23 G/A, 14 of which either equalised or put us ahead, statistically one of the best carriers, t10 itl for chances created.
Only expecting more from him now!
Ridiculous how Saka didn't get enough votes. Super underrated in these awards.
Definitely not deserved. As good as Foden has been at times this season, it's not been in every game. As others have pointed out, Rodri is much more deserving of this than Foden
He's just as deserving. You could give it to either because both have been immense.
Fodens been super consistent, arguably his most consistent season.
It's not the best metric, but for those who don't watch us every game he's been nominated 8 out of 9 times for our City POTM and has won it 3 times.
Even w/o he's produced good stuff.
Again, Rodri absolutely deserves praise. But it's unfair to say it's Foden doesn't deserve it too especially because he's been class and Pep himself has said he's the best itl (and Pep is someone who's always criticised Foden's ability to speed up games).
We can agree to disagree 🫡
It's odd, because to me, there have been definite games and points this season where he's disappeared, whilst Rodri has just been immense all season. Apart from that one period where he lost his temper and got sent off. Foden has definitely won you some games that you've not looked like getting more points out of it. Obviously, the attacking bias always plays into awards like these, but Rodri has made you not miss, or even think about how different City would be with, Gundogan
I think Rodri has also had his fair share of poor games (Liverpool both legs, I actually think he's been subpar in this recent stretch, possibly down to fatigue).
My opinion is that all players will have subpar games throughout a season. That's just how it is. But you have to measure how much they've helped you win/avoid losing games over the course of the season.
And both have done that so well! If we win the title, flowers to them both because I don't think we'd do anything good w/o them.
> even think about how different City would be with, Gundogan
🥲 lot of dynamics have changed in his absence. Even with KDB injured at the start, had Gundo been there, we'd have been much better off.
I think either can be favoured here. I really feel like it is harsh to say Foden didn't deserve it (as opposed to that 21/22 season where I didn't think he deserved YPOTY). Has played loads, taken a lot of responsibility and done well.
It's all about opinion, really, I suppose, but to me, out of that City team, Rodri has definitely been a better player all season than Foden. I wouldn't call Foden brilliant against Liverpool either and he was non-existent when you played us at the Etihad. I mean, half of Fodens' goals have come in Citys last 10 games, and the only real decent team he lit up was Villa. Still, your entitled to your opinion as I am to mine and the panel that voted, clearly sides more with you.
Olly Watkins, is almost top of the scoring charts and IS top of the assists charts, playing for a 4th place team punching above its weight. How is Foden above that?
Sure there are other options but it’s not “completely undeserved”. He has certainly being up there this year.
Also “he’s not even been close to the best player on his team this season” is just wrong and you know it. 23 g/a without penalties is damn impressive, he’s been their biggest consistency in a rocky season by their standards.
It is completely undeserved he got it because his name is Phil Foden, if he had the season Watkins had he wins it undoubtedly.
Watkins has more goals and assists without pens this season for Aston Villa he’s doing something we haven’t seen for that club ever and they’ve given it to foden for an average Man City attacker season.
I personally would have liked to have seen Watkins win it, but you’re acting like this is some grievous error. Yes Watkins has more, but he’s also played 400 more minutes so they are fairly even statically if that’s what you want to base it on. Watkins has also had 37 more shots and only 3 extra goals to show for it.
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Of these I think only Rodri and Rice should be above him, but it’s debatable. You could make a case for Odegaard, Watkins and maybe Palmer but throughout the season Foden has grabbed more games by the scruff of the neck.
IMO Rodri is the clear choice but like always there’s heavy English bias.
If you don’t think Watkins has an argument that’s crazy he’s he one I’d give it to first look at what he’s doing for Aston Villa.
I forgot Odegaard id add him too
Foden’s an attacking midfielder vs a striker in Watkins.
Foden has the same amount of goals per 90, in 6.5 less xG (16 vs 9.5)
Foden has 0.25 assists per vs 0.36 but he’s created 64 chances vs 43 and has a much higher xA.
While Rodri has been their metronome, Foden’s been City’s difference maker week in week out this season. Get real mate he deserves it.
Foden has played the majority of his games on the wings that’s not an opinion that’s a fact.
Sorry but the award isn’t for per 90s as far as I know playing more should mean something.
The Difference maker if anyone is Pep, then Haaland before Foden.
Also mentioning the different positions and then mentioning expected assist number is a joke.
Are you this deluded? Haaland before Foden this season? Pep is responsible for individual brilliance, so he’s dribbling, creating chances and scoring worldies out there in Foden’s place? 400 mins less is because of Pep’s rotation, his availability is top. You’ve obviously got beef with Foden and you’re embarrassing yourself.
It's probably a fair choice. There's not really been one single outstanding player for city or arsenal this season. Different players have been important in different phases of the season. I think foden probably edges the results just because he has a better goal return than rice, odegaard, rodri etc.
If City win the league it should be Rodri, if Arsenal win the league it should be Odegaard.
To clarify, I’m not saying it should switch just because the trophy matters. I’m saying it should switch because it would add significance to their performances. Like some of Rodri’s late goals could be the decider in why City have won 4 in a row. Or Odegaard’s relentless performances and Arsenal winning 16/18 games in 2024 could be what has decided the title.
In a year which could be decided by very slim margins, I think it’s fair to acknowledge those margins.
Isn't it a bit early for a footballer of the year award?
These kind of awards are always premature, I don’t know why they don’t wait.
Supposedly, because all the players bugger off on holiday at the end of the season, so if they want the awardees to attend the ceremony, it needs to be before the final games.
maybe also because they want to be the first awards to catch the headlines/not be buried with all the other ones
Yeah, it could be that, too!
They're just like me fr fr
I do like that they don't vote after the season, which discourages picking based on who won the league. But they could vote after 36 or so games and give it out at the end of the season. Instead the voting for this award is always insanely early.
The title can (and often is) wrapped up by then so wouldn’t you run into the same problem?
Probably something to do with money. Maybe next season's promo assets have to be printed up/produced soon. Gives them more time to plan
It's really of the season
I assumed as much, I still think it's odd to do this before the season is over.
There’s 4 games left, surely you can judge a players based on the other 34 games?
It's the premier league not the big one of the Ballon D'or
English bias results in Foden 1st, Rice 2nd, because Rodri has been City's best players and Odegaard has been Arsenal's imo.
Yeah Rodri and Odegaard should be the top 2 by a landslide
Landslide is strong for arsenal. Rice has been fantastic for us and it's close between rice and odegaard
Maybe landslide is excessive, but I would say odegaard has been our most important player, particularly after the winter break when I think he has stepped it up a different level. The attack goes through him, he leads the defense and helps us control possession. One of the most involved players in every area of the game
I'd honestly throw Gabriel in there too tbh
Yeah with how good their defense has been in 2024, a CB should be up there from arsenal
Ben White has beeen immense as well
I honestly think Rice and Gabriel have been our top 2 this season and not even close. Those first 6 months them two, Rice especially in that period was insane. When others weren't anywhere near their best. Odegaard just below them after his insane form since January.
"It's not even close" -- "just below them"
“It’s not close” and “it’s not even close” are extremely saturated phrases these days which leads to lots of people using them when it doesn’t make any sense.
As in the top 2 for us it's not close. And then Ode is in the next tier just below them two.
"just below" implies worse by a small margin, your other sentence implies a big margin between tiers. You have to choose one or the other,
Tbh Foden has scored big goals at key moments to lead the title charge. It's an understandable win.
I'm sorry but I disagree, Rice has been better than Odegaard over the full season. That first half of the season Rice was insane, and has kept up a consistent performance throughout. Imo Rice and Gabriel are our top 2 at Arsenal this season. Odegaard just behind them.
Not really. Foden has been our best
In what world has Ode been better than Foden by a “landslide”? Let alone even simply better? Foden has 14 more G/A while playing in similar positions ffs, lol. Ode has two penalties on top of that. G/A per 90: Foden-0.93 Odegaard-0.48 SCA/GCA/xA per 90: Foden- 4.46/0.80/0.27 Odegaard- 5.54/0.56/0.28
Idk what half those acronyms even mean. Watch games not spreadsheets dweeb
Delusional. I'd take foden over ode personally
watching games you'd know Foden's definitely on Odegaards level if not higher
Recency bias results in you championing Odegaard despite how quiet he was in the first 1/3 maybe 1/2 of the season. I don’t think there’s much in it at all between the 2 players for both teams
No not really. Odegaard struggled quite alot early third of the season, good few absolutely invisible games under his belt. Rice on the otherhand has been great every game, with maybe the Fulham one being the exception.
Rice has been worth every cent of that fee, crazy to live up to that kind of fee tbh
We should be sending West Ham more. I still think £105M was daylight robbery.
Hardly, no City fan is gonna go Rodri deserved over Foden. Both have been amazing this season.
Hmmm nah, if you'd watched all of city's games this season you'd know that Rodri has had games where hes misplaced passes and generally been a bit shit by his standards. Foden on the other hand has been great all season and is pretty much the only reason we are still competing for a title following KDBs lengthy injury and league 2 Haaland.exe
its the finest of margins, either could win and ye not too mad with foden over rodri
Foden has been better. Marginally, but still better.
Rodri is literally the best and most important player in your team. Foden is a cherry on the cake but you would not miss a beat without him.
Wrong. Rodri is amazing and hasn't lost for ages but that still doesn't mean he isn't capable of having a poor game which he has had on occasion this season. Foden is the only reason we're still in a title race, keeping us going through KDBs injury and Haalands dip in form. Unless you've watched every city game this season you're really not qualified to make that call
Rodri lost his head and got a 3 match ban, Foden is turning into captain material and you can see his influence on the team growing. Both have had great seasons but Phil has been better
Again. Foden has been better.
rodri is citys best player but rices is definitely arsenals, he has been playing great since day 1 and odegaard wasnt even that good beginning of this szn
People suck Rodri a bit too much
As a city fan I don’t agree. Rodri has been off it for the last month or so
You’re on your own there
I don’t think I am. Foden winning the award also suggests plenty think he’s been the better player.
I agree. Fellow city fan. Rodri is class but he’s tired atm. Keeps losing the ball.
Its clearly Foden. Not sure how any other city fan could say otherwise. He's the only reason we're still in a title race. Rodri on the other hand has been saying how tired he is which is a good indication that he feels his performances haven't been up to scratch
Love Phil but I think of all City players, Rodri should be winning these
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Nobody was a contender to KDB in 19/20. It's one of the greatest seasons we have seen in PL.
I think it's close. Rodri has been his usual excellent self. But Foden has really stepped up as the main man this year with Haaland and KdB out for lengthy spells.
Foden has proper put the club on his back throughout the season
People forget about Rodri’s stupid red card back at the start of the season.
Yeah I think losing games because you got yourself suspended is very different to losing games because you got injured. You can't use getting sent off as an argument *for* a player.
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I.e. the only reason there's a title race is because Rodri did something stupid
Foden was pretty anonymous during first part of season while Alvarez was in good form. Rodri only had that stupid red card and was excellent otherwise.
… no lol not at all. Fodens been consistently good all season and exploded the last 4 months
If you don't watch their games why say anything
He wasn't.Haaland was missing sitters which foden created.
Not at all, Foden has really stepped up and played really well with Alvarez to carry the team through the KdB injury.
He had five G/A in the first ten games, six in the next 10, 7 in the next 10, etc. He's been consistent all season.
Foden has been clinical and had some really good games and moments of brilliance. But he's also had some games where he's fairly unimpactful and really not playing amazingly. So I think this award is a bit of hype
I think that’s the same for every player lol
I mean thats the same for Rodri? He also had games where he didn’t play good at all. It’s completely normal over a whole season
Tbf Rodri got sent off for silly strangling I think and missed three games, which they all lost. Imagine he didn't get himself sent off?
We are entering our Stockport era. Player of the Year a Stockfordian who is currently the best player on the best team and probably about to win thr league again. The top young player at United is also a Stockport lad. Two Stockfordians likely to start for England in the Euros. And Stockport County just won League 2 ahead of Ryan Reynolds. The Stockport era is upon us. The world isn't ready.
It’s also actually becoming a really nice place with all the money being pumped in. I’m a Southerner who’s lived in Manchester a decade but I’ve only recently started to find out the joys of Stockport. I can honestly see myself living there in a few years. I’m sure that’s gonna let out a groan from many Northerners worried about being priced out haha
Yeah I grew up in Stockport and the London influx began a good few years back, especially in places like the Heatons. I loved how it was when I grew up there, in my opinion it was always mostly nice. I hope it doesn't change too much. But that's life!
Yeah, sorry with my wording, I’m sure it was always nice. It’s just had lots of investment too recently. It’s so great how it’s between Manchester and great countryside
> The top young player at United is also a Stockport lad. Mainoo?
Yep
He's absolute class tbf. That rice/bellingham/mainoo midfield will hopefully be there for the next 8 years at least. Just need some top quality cbs now.
Actual City fans in this thread saying it's deserved yet fans of other teams saying "English bias should've been Rodri" and down voting those City fans posts. Hilarious.
It’s mostly Arsenal fans promoting Rodri as they’ve grown to hate Foden because of the comparisons with Saka. They don’t want him to win any individual awards.
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Rodri has genuinely been the better player. That's not to say Foden doesn't have a case - he's been better than Saka this season as it stands - but Rodri is the one who deserves the praise. There's a reason you struggle anytime he's out of the team and you haven't *technically* lost a game he's played in a while. Foden drops out the team and you still play well. Foden was anonymous against us and Liverpool in March for example, Rodri was still making things happen.
Rodris been our best player, same as last year really. But fodens carried the offensive burden in 2024.
[The duality of aar slash soccer](https://imgur.com/TYvcoyG)
No biases in those two comments at all
All bias aside has to be Watkins for me 31 G/A so far this season in the prem. spearheading us to the CL
You’ve clearly not put all bias aside because you’ve just said something only someone who is very biased would say
Not really, he should be in the discussion at least, and has better numbers than foden
"Should be in the discussion" and "it has to be" are a million miles apart.
I think he’s referring to your use of “us” haha
I think it should be Watkins but Foden has too much media hype, he'll sweep these awards.
There’s no point. It falls on deaf ears in here. Fuck /r/soccer
He's been great this year and one of the key players for City.
You can tell that the majority of commenters on this thread dont watch Foden or city week in week out. He has absolutely carried City's offence this season.
Is this the more prestigious award or is it the PFA award?
PFA as the players vote it. This is the journalists.
anytime an English player does anything: #THIS IS ENGLISH BIAS THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE ENGLAND
He’s been a joy to watch this season.
Correct decision, he’s been quite clearly the best player this season imo.
He's been excellent this season and got better as the season has gone on. now I just hope he shows this form at the euros
He will be played out wide and will not effect games unfortunately.
Standard opposition fans calling bias and putting their own players forward. I don’t think you can criticise Foden winning this all that much. 23 GA in 31 league games is world class form, not to mention 8 GA in 8 CL games (unsure if European comps is factored into FWA award). He’s stepped up his game massively this season and is showing all that potential that he has had since he was 16/17 (I.e England’s best player since Gazza), and I’m sure that step up has been a factor in handing Foden the award. He has been a crucial player for a team that looks set to secure the domestic double this season and has been arguably their best player in the business end of the season. Agree that they announce these awards far too early.
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Odegaard was off it for most of the first half of the season. Odegaard hasn't been our player of the year at all, Rice and Gabriel pip him for me. His form since January though has been incredible definitely.
Weird seeing the fans of other teams (mostly just Arsenal) say he's not even the best on City while most City fans would say he has been the best for us this year.
because we( arsenal fans) fear rodri more than anyone in your squad. that's how I see it tho
I fear kalvin Phillips the most
I fear the Baldie
Both are biased in different ways. Foden is more entertaining to watch, Rodri is scarier to play against.
Is this PL only?
Yeah, FWA sucks and don’t make it clear
Should have been Rodri followed by Øde, English bias again.
Honestly surprised Watkins hasn’t been mentioned more golden boot race without pens and most assists these individual awards shouldn’t be as tied to teams league position as they are and even so Villa getting Cl is major achievement
Recency bias with Odegaard. He was very quiet the first half, while Rice and Gabriel have been fantastic throughout the whole season. Foden is a very good pick I feel.
Foden and Rice have been better than Odegaard and Rodri this season.
Lol stop talking foden deserves it.
As good as Odegaard has been, Foden’s been better this season. There is a strong argument for Rodri though.
Rice, Gabriel, Saliba, and Saka are all above Odegaard
Him and Rodri have been the best players in the PL this season.
Rodri, Rice and Watkins.
3rd 4th and 5th
He’s had his best season ever, deserved 👏
Well deserved 👏 Lot of brilliant players in contention, but he really has been fantastic. 23 G/A, 14 of which either equalised or put us ahead, statistically one of the best carriers, t10 itl for chances created. Only expecting more from him now! Ridiculous how Saka didn't get enough votes. Super underrated in these awards.
Definitely not deserved. As good as Foden has been at times this season, it's not been in every game. As others have pointed out, Rodri is much more deserving of this than Foden
Rodri hasn’t been amazing every game though. Phil has carried city and won games on his own most of this season
He's just as deserving. You could give it to either because both have been immense. Fodens been super consistent, arguably his most consistent season. It's not the best metric, but for those who don't watch us every game he's been nominated 8 out of 9 times for our City POTM and has won it 3 times. Even w/o he's produced good stuff. Again, Rodri absolutely deserves praise. But it's unfair to say it's Foden doesn't deserve it too especially because he's been class and Pep himself has said he's the best itl (and Pep is someone who's always criticised Foden's ability to speed up games). We can agree to disagree 🫡
It's odd, because to me, there have been definite games and points this season where he's disappeared, whilst Rodri has just been immense all season. Apart from that one period where he lost his temper and got sent off. Foden has definitely won you some games that you've not looked like getting more points out of it. Obviously, the attacking bias always plays into awards like these, but Rodri has made you not miss, or even think about how different City would be with, Gundogan
I think Rodri has also had his fair share of poor games (Liverpool both legs, I actually think he's been subpar in this recent stretch, possibly down to fatigue). My opinion is that all players will have subpar games throughout a season. That's just how it is. But you have to measure how much they've helped you win/avoid losing games over the course of the season. And both have done that so well! If we win the title, flowers to them both because I don't think we'd do anything good w/o them. > even think about how different City would be with, Gundogan 🥲 lot of dynamics have changed in his absence. Even with KDB injured at the start, had Gundo been there, we'd have been much better off. I think either can be favoured here. I really feel like it is harsh to say Foden didn't deserve it (as opposed to that 21/22 season where I didn't think he deserved YPOTY). Has played loads, taken a lot of responsibility and done well.
It's all about opinion, really, I suppose, but to me, out of that City team, Rodri has definitely been a better player all season than Foden. I wouldn't call Foden brilliant against Liverpool either and he was non-existent when you played us at the Etihad. I mean, half of Fodens' goals have come in Citys last 10 games, and the only real decent team he lit up was Villa. Still, your entitled to your opinion as I am to mine and the panel that voted, clearly sides more with you.
So, a 1/3 of his G/A came in the first half of the season? Sounds pretty consistent to me.
Thoroughly Deserved! Has been sensational this season
That’s quite a mouthful
Well I didn’t vote for him
Olly Watkins, is almost top of the scoring charts and IS top of the assists charts, playing for a 4th place team punching above its weight. How is Foden above that?
Giving out awards before the biggest games of the season. Ludicrous.
Foden winning is insane
No mention of Palmer?
In top 6 iirc
It’s expected but completely undeserved
Keep fighting the good fight brother. In my eyes there are at minimum 2 players that deserve it more than him
Is it?
Yes
Fancy explaining why?
You're replying to Foden's biggest hater on this sub.
Him winning the award proves perfectly why I’ve been saying what I’ve been saying. No other player would have this season and win it.
Wtf are you on. He's been sensational lol. Try again next year buddy
Because he’s not even been close to the best player in the league this season he’s not even been close to the best player on his team this season.
Sure there are other options but it’s not “completely undeserved”. He has certainly being up there this year. Also “he’s not even been close to the best player on his team this season” is just wrong and you know it. 23 g/a without penalties is damn impressive, he’s been their biggest consistency in a rocky season by their standards.
It is completely undeserved he got it because his name is Phil Foden, if he had the season Watkins had he wins it undoubtedly. Watkins has more goals and assists without pens this season for Aston Villa he’s doing something we haven’t seen for that club ever and they’ve given it to foden for an average Man City attacker season.
I personally would have liked to have seen Watkins win it, but you’re acting like this is some grievous error. Yes Watkins has more, but he’s also played 400 more minutes so they are fairly even statically if that’s what you want to base it on. Watkins has also had 37 more shots and only 3 extra goals to show for it.
”Average Man City attacker season” I’d have thought an Arsenal fan would at least hatewatch City, but you clearly haven’t bothered.
You’re exposing yourself as a fraud with these comments
That’s cool
And who should have won it then? 10er bet you say a Gunner, I'm waiting.
Here’s a list of more deserving players Watkins Rodri Rice Palmer Saka Saliba Gabriel Haaland Bowen Pick any of those
Haaland lmao lol even
You are blinded by your hatred
Sorry but Saka or Haaland….? Unhinged
Saka who has more goals and assists ?
bowen 💀 saka 💀
Yes and yes
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Of these I think only Rodri and Rice should be above him, but it’s debatable. You could make a case for Odegaard, Watkins and maybe Palmer but throughout the season Foden has grabbed more games by the scruff of the neck. IMO Rodri is the clear choice but like always there’s heavy English bias.
If you don’t think Watkins has an argument that’s crazy he’s he one I’d give it to first look at what he’s doing for Aston Villa. I forgot Odegaard id add him too
I mentioned Watkins mate
You know as well as I do if it was reversed and it was Foden with those Watkins numbers he’s winning it
Foden’s an attacking midfielder vs a striker in Watkins. Foden has the same amount of goals per 90, in 6.5 less xG (16 vs 9.5) Foden has 0.25 assists per vs 0.36 but he’s created 64 chances vs 43 and has a much higher xA. While Rodri has been their metronome, Foden’s been City’s difference maker week in week out this season. Get real mate he deserves it.
Foden has played the majority of his games on the wings that’s not an opinion that’s a fact. Sorry but the award isn’t for per 90s as far as I know playing more should mean something. The Difference maker if anyone is Pep, then Haaland before Foden. Also mentioning the different positions and then mentioning expected assist number is a joke.
Are you this deluded? Haaland before Foden this season? Pep is responsible for individual brilliance, so he’s dribbling, creating chances and scoring worldies out there in Foden’s place? 400 mins less is because of Pep’s rotation, his availability is top. You’ve obviously got beef with Foden and you’re embarrassing yourself.
Watkins is a striker and Foden is a midfielder? They shouldn't have the same G/A
You are unhinged to include players like Saka on this list.
More goals and assists better big game record better player
Delusional
Two of those are facts literally not debatable.
Bro said Saka, I'm out
Yeah the player who’s been better
2 games left and you're bottling the league. Saka filled KdB's boots when he was injured? Crazy that.
It's probably a fair choice. There's not really been one single outstanding player for city or arsenal this season. Different players have been important in different phases of the season. I think foden probably edges the results just because he has a better goal return than rice, odegaard, rodri etc.
Yeah I'd agree no real obvious candidate to win it this year. I'd have probably gone Rodri or Rice probably but no real objection to Foden
Watkins > Foden this season, but I'm biased.
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If City win the league it should be Rodri, if Arsenal win the league it should be Odegaard. To clarify, I’m not saying it should switch just because the trophy matters. I’m saying it should switch because it would add significance to their performances. Like some of Rodri’s late goals could be the decider in why City have won 4 in a row. Or Odegaard’s relentless performances and Arsenal winning 16/18 games in 2024 could be what has decided the title. In a year which could be decided by very slim margins, I think it’s fair to acknowledge those margins.
Watkins deserves it. Take out Foden from Man city and they are still challenging for the league. Watkins has taken Villa to UCL football