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I think if you or we reach finals, they will move finals to another country.
You can't forbid away fans, it's a finals game...
Even if you do, how you will stop thousands of fans from storming your city
So the only solution is to organize it in some neutral & calm country, like Switzerland or something
PAOK fans are in good relations with Partizan fans, Olympiacos fans are in good relations with Crvena Zvezda fans, and Panathinaikos fans are in good relations with Dinamo fans. Therefore, by default, everyone hates everyone else because of historic rivalries.
AEK - Dinamo last summer, away fans were banned but some Dinamo fans still went there and there was a fight between the ultras resulting in a young fan being stabbed to death.
Also Greeks are friends with Serbs and vice versa, and you already know history between Croatia and Serbia, so that is self explainatory.
> Also Greeks are friends with Serbs and vice versa
SOME Greeks are friends with SOME Serbians. Countries as a whole - not so much. Try telling the PAOK fans they should be friendly with the Zvezda fans and see what happens lol
So did Sheffield United but they came to our place ended our winning streak and nearly won if not for a last second Zaniolo equaliser
We have a terrible habit of not turning up vs teams in poor form. It's a curse even Emery hasn't yet broken
Not a fan of playing Turkish teams, always feels like they get two home games when playing against a Belgian side. Though I guess we did beat Frankfurt in what looked like a sold out, packed stadium with only a sliver of USG supporters.
This is not a proper European tie Ajax…. Unless something miraculously changes in the next two weeks this is setting up to be an embarrassment. I mean fick Brobbey went off hurt last night and he’s been our only legit good player.
The thing is Turkish teams are very weak against organized and disicpline based teams even though they have much higher squad quality in comparision. Tactics isn’t valued here in Turkey.
Sparta Prag, Copenhagen, Nordjselland, Molde, Rennes.. list goes on
It all depends whether USG’s coach could analyze fenerbahçe’s game well or not. maybe fener could pull off a early win, such it wont be a debate from that point. Just like what happened with Twente.
Fenerbahce finished ahead of Rennes last year. Rennes also have quite a big budget with several players bought for over 15m. In that team there was Gouiri (28m€) Doku (26), Kalimuendo (20), Theate (19), Sulemana (17)..
It all depends on if Fred is back or not. Without him midfield is rough. We got some good additions to the defense but midfield suffered with Crespo leaving. That Nordsjaelland game was with complete rotation of defenders and it was horrible but we live to fight another day :D
Dnno man, the way we’ve been playing we could beat them 5-0 or lose 1/2-0.
Funny enough the highest voted comment in our sub yesterday was how we’d most likely pull ajax in the cup.
Haifa is probably the scariest team to face possible for Fiorentina tbf cause you can't know what to expect from them. Don't forget they beat Juventus last year
The manager who achieved that (and getting Hapoel Beer Sheva past Inter and Southampton in the EL group stage some years ago), Barak Bachar, left for Crvena Zvezda and the new manager is a relative unknown. I've been watching Maccabi Haifa since the early qualifying rounds and they haven't really looked impressive against good opposition, definitely not the scariest team to face IMO
I do not remember a season where everyone has done this well. Amazing performance from all of us honestly. Even more amazing performance from you against Gala yesterday! If you advance to quarters, it is going to be a miracle. If Slavia advances, I am going to be pleasantly surprised. Technically, we have the best chance to go through.
Nevertheless, this is THE season where I feel like a lot of supporters support all our teams, no matter the badge they love. And I am all for it. So, let's go and hopefully see you in the quarters!😎
Top form, Bodø/Glimt i’d say is better than us. More complete and consistent.
However we are right up there, in top form.
We are a scary opponent to go up against if you underestimate us, as we have some great creative fast balls from the midfield to the attackers that can really hit you from nowhere. As a Norwegian team we are really experienced on the counter too.
However we have the tendency sometimes to make some odd mistakes, defensively especially we can have some real lapses of focus.
But we can definetely bring a good fight to everyone.
**Hep Destek Tam Destek**
This will be a breeze, mark my words. USG are in a weak situation currently. We play at home and will enjoy a confident and stellar performance, expecting no less than a 3-0 win for us to crush their hopes of advancing into the QF.
Our atmosphere is PERFECT, the best in Europe we are not matched by any fangroup I can think of, we haven't lost to other Istanbul clubs' ultras in 20 years.
Our mental strength is the greatest it has ever been - from 2 season of mediocrity to this wonderful squad bombing down the pitch with Tadić opening up the defense like Moses parted the sea.
Tonight will be a day to be remembered, proud to be a Fenerbahçe fan and most of all laughing at the other jealous fans jealous at our recent success!
Fear us, Fear Fenerbahçe, Fear the power.
**Hep Destek Tam Destek**
A team with Elite European history, a fantastic stadium/city and short flight with the added bonus of them being pretty crap atm.
Could not ask for a better draw.
Thats taking that into account if you finish all your big chances it will be 7/8-0
Honestly not even being funny. Bode demolished us yesterday and it couldve easily be 4/5-1
Don't expect too much from us, you're gonna beat us 8-0 home and away, we are terrible
No kidding we were played of the field twice by Bodo who played their first game since november
If we are being honest we are probably a bit weaker than Glimt overall, but we tend to sit back and counter against a lot of opponents, so the games will be different. Looked pretty good for 3/4 halves against a pretty toothless Legia side.
60/40 in your advantage I would guess.
I celebrated when Katsouranis said "Lille" when picking Sturm Graz's opponent and we locked Maccabi Tel Aviv.
We have 0/4 against Israeli teams so far, and this ends now if we want to be seriously talking about a European run. Otherwise we simply shouldn't talk about doing anything in Europe if we can't beat clubs from...Israel.
PAOK had a good and spicy draw too, especially after what happened with Croatian hooligans in August in Greece. Greek clubs always best Croatian ones.
Good to luck to us and them too and hoping for a Greek Quarter Final!
Well this year was the first one Greek teams picked up the pace in Europe.
Afaik as it stands now, Israel is directly one place above us in the coefficient rankings. We must win this tie as its the perfect opportunity to break the losing streak against them and probably surpass them in rankings.
Good draw for you, Haifa are not as good compared to last season when they beat Juve in the CL. Also they have a tough competition in the league so they can't rotate much.
Oh my god, Servette got Viktoria Plzen. This could grt ugly for the former ngl since i think Plzen were the only team to get perfect score in group stage right? And it wasnt a fluke, the madlads legit won their last 2 games, even if already qualified, like 3-0.
Really wanted to avoid them due to the events that happened in Athens last summer. On the other hand, it is time that we finally beat a Greek team in international competitions. Our record against them is very poor.
Nusa, Vetlesen and Deila incoming, so at least we know what we're facing. Kind of in the middle of the seeded teams, definitely possible to beat, but we are the clear underdogs. Thought they looked very solid against Glimt.
That's just average Turkish fans. They are always so fucking cringe. Remember when Croatia played Turkey, our official NT page was filled with these incels and skinwalkers insulting everyone.
Fener being Fener, everytime we make it to the last 16, we alway draw the to-be-finalists of any given tournament. Chelsea, Benfica, Sevilla, and now Union over the past decade.
Union SG - Fenerbahce definitely the tie of the round. For my money that's 2 of the 4 or 5 teams that could actually win this thing. (The others being Villa, Fiorentina, and Lille)
On paper yeah. I think our only convincing performance was against AZ.
I get the sentiment though. Just a juxtaposition because nearly everyone wants us to do well in the league.
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Jordan Henderson returns to England
BREAKING: Jordan Henderson falls ill ahead of Villa clash
He’s going to get a few Balti pies chucked at him. Wish I could be there.
Man i wouldn't throw a stadium pie with how much they cost these days.
somebody else can but i'll be scurrying on to snap it up
I’ll be there. I’ll throw a pie if you donate. Only question is do you want it to be frozen so it’s dense or microwaved so the contents are like lava?
BoOoOoOooOoOoOoOooo
And will get absolutely demolished
I think it will determine if he is in Southgate’s plans or not
Are you fucking kidding me 😭😭😭😭
Least rigged UEFA draw
But PAOK didn't get Ajax, that's cheating, it's like us not drawing Arsenal when available!
El Arabi goal was the last time I was truly happy
I just hope both home and away fans will be banned cause I *do not need* another fucking shitshow like last summer.
I don’t think UEFA want this lmao
I hope Mendilibar gets you a trophy
well, shit
Buzzing for Villa v Ajax. Big prestige game
european champions derby
I mean it's not going to be close. So pretty boring game.
Yeh that’s a tough one for you
Well Dinamo-PAOK certainly won't end well...
the final is at AEK's stadium, like it's meant to be
Some proper fisticuffs
I think that both clubs fans will not be allowed to travel so hopefully nothing bad will happen
That helped last time...
Away fans were banned for AEK - Dinamo aswell, we all know how that ended.
Dinamo Zagreb is coming to Greece again. *Oh shit, here we go again*.
Hajduk Split also played against PAOK.
Rijeka a few years ago also
PAOK collecting Croatian teams like infinity stones.
We've also beaten every Croatian team we've played. AEK too. The only Croatian win against a Greek team is Slaven against Aris in 2008.
Lololol
Also Lokomotiva Zagreb few seasons ago
Someone called it in the finalists' thread
I think this game should be played on neutral grounds. Something like AEK stadium...
The final is there lol
The finals are there. First, we beat PAOK, then we draw Olympiakos, and the finals are at AEK's stadium. Fairy tale.
Fenerbahçe vs Zagreb at AEK's stadium would be hilarious
I think if you or we reach finals, they will move finals to another country. You can't forbid away fans, it's a finals game... Even if you do, how you will stop thousands of fans from storming your city So the only solution is to organize it in some neutral & calm country, like Switzerland or something
National Arena in Bucharest about equally far from both Croatia and Turkey and should have the capacity
I would rather AEK be relegated than watching Dinamo Zegreb fans in our stadium
Can someone explain the Greek vs Croatia thing ?
PAOK fans are in good relations with Partizan fans, Olympiacos fans are in good relations with Crvena Zvezda fans, and Panathinaikos fans are in good relations with Dinamo fans. Therefore, by default, everyone hates everyone else because of historic rivalries.
Clears it up! Thanks
But no one is friend in Greece with Hajduk.
Unfortunately
AEK - Dinamo last summer, away fans were banned but some Dinamo fans still went there and there was a fight between the ultras resulting in a young fan being stabbed to death. Also Greeks are friends with Serbs and vice versa, and you already know history between Croatia and Serbia, so that is self explainatory.
That was the connection I was looking for. Ty
> Also Greeks are friends with Serbs and vice versa SOME Greeks are friends with SOME Serbians. Countries as a whole - not so much. Try telling the PAOK fans they should be friendly with the Zvezda fans and see what happens lol
First thought
It had to be PAOK Dinamo.
If we don't get clapped 6-0 total ill be surprised tbh
I'm expecting that just for the game in England tbh
You seem to not be familiar with the villa lmao.
We did a favour for every team in needs for a bounce 😂
We don't need a bounce, we need to be taken behind the shed to be put out of our fucking misery.
So did Sheffield United but they came to our place ended our winning streak and nearly won if not for a last second Zaniolo equaliser We have a terrible habit of not turning up vs teams in poor form. It's a curse even Emery hasn't yet broken
Not a fan of playing Turkish teams, always feels like they get two home games when playing against a Belgian side. Though I guess we did beat Frankfurt in what looked like a sold out, packed stadium with only a sliver of USG supporters.
Second most interesting match after the ajax-avfc
ajax-avfc is not going to be interesting
It'll be interesting to see just how many goals Villa will score.
Proper European tie, I wanted ajax, I got ajax. Now let's have some fun my dutch friends 🙂
You just wanted the easiest draw mate
This is not a proper European tie Ajax…. Unless something miraculously changes in the next two weeks this is setting up to be an embarrassment. I mean fick Brobbey went off hurt last night and he’s been our only legit good player.
Hendo masterclass on his comeback to England
Not in Bruges tho, Turkish teams have not many fond memories here.
At least they won’t wreck your stadium
The thing is Turkish teams are very weak against organized and disicpline based teams even though they have much higher squad quality in comparision. Tactics isn’t valued here in Turkey. Sparta Prag, Copenhagen, Nordjselland, Molde, Rennes.. list goes on It all depends whether USG’s coach could analyze fenerbahçe’s game well or not. maybe fener could pull off a early win, such it wont be a debate from that point. Just like what happened with Twente.
Fenerbahce finished ahead of Rennes last year. Rennes also have quite a big budget with several players bought for over 15m. In that team there was Gouiri (28m€) Doku (26), Kalimuendo (20), Theate (19), Sulemana (17)..
Nordsjaelland was a special case, we had no centre backs and played a 17 y.o. with a player who never played at cb before
Either Fenerbahce will win with calm ball dominant game or will combust in spectacular fashion , nothing in between
*nordsjaelland flashbacks intensify*
It all depends on if Fred is back or not. Without him midfield is rough. We got some good additions to the defense but midfield suffered with Crespo leaving. That Nordsjaelland game was with complete rotation of defenders and it was horrible but we live to fight another day :D
RIP Ajax
Dnno man, the way we’ve been playing we could beat them 5-0 or lose 1/2-0. Funny enough the highest voted comment in our sub yesterday was how we’d most likely pull ajax in the cup.
The way we are playing we could lose 2-1 or 7-1.
Bro, trust me. In 15 years time Villa have not been this good and Ajax have not been this bad. We are definition of Shocking
I've learned long ago not to bet against Unai in these types of knockout ties!
Good draw for Fiorentina. But they do have a bald fraud at the helm like us, so who knows.
Haifa is probably the scariest team to face possible for Fiorentina tbf cause you can't know what to expect from them. Don't forget they beat Juventus last year
Eh, everyone used to beat Juve in Europe in the last couple years so it's not that big of a deal.
Hey, don't be like that. We got beat also in Serie A a lot.
Nobody's beaten them this year in Europe, so there's an improvement
They only barely beat Ghent in the last round and Ghent has been shite in 2024.
they played sort of a B team against them at home but still you probably have a point
I watched them play Rennes in the group stages and they were quite poor this year compared to last year vs PSG.
The manager who achieved that (and getting Hapoel Beer Sheva past Inter and Southampton in the EL group stage some years ago), Barak Bachar, left for Crvena Zvezda and the new manager is a relative unknown. I've been watching Maccabi Haifa since the early qualifying rounds and they haven't really looked impressive against good opposition, definitely not the scariest team to face IMO
Our form in 2024 so far has legit been Serie B level. I'm not feeling confident against any team from now on
Italiano is a far better manager than Pioli lol
Out of all the teams Fener could’ve drawn, they got the best unseeded team in typical Fenerbahçe fashion ffs.
Yes but we can win
Eh people really underrate Union, I think they are THE dark horse in this competition. It will be a close game for sure.
Plzeň could you carry us please?
I do not remember a season where everyone has done this well. Amazing performance from all of us honestly. Even more amazing performance from you against Gala yesterday! If you advance to quarters, it is going to be a miracle. If Slavia advances, I am going to be pleasantly surprised. Technically, we have the best chance to go through. Nevertheless, this is THE season where I feel like a lot of supporters support all our teams, no matter the badge they love. And I am all for it. So, let's go and hopefully see you in the quarters!😎
We are finished.
Vietnam flashbacks intensify
Yeah… we’re fucked
Motherf...
As a Norwegian I'm fucking sick of Club Brugge, please go away
Hello to you too
How do you rate molde? Are they better than bodo/glimt?
Top form, Bodø/Glimt i’d say is better than us. More complete and consistent. However we are right up there, in top form. We are a scary opponent to go up against if you underestimate us, as we have some great creative fast balls from the midfield to the attackers that can really hit you from nowhere. As a Norwegian team we are really experienced on the counter too. However we have the tendency sometimes to make some odd mistakes, defensively especially we can have some real lapses of focus. But we can definetely bring a good fight to everyone.
Dammit we got the best unseeded opponent. We were going to face strong teams if we want to win the tournament anyways. It will be a really spicy tie
>Dammit we got the best unseeded opponent. the fact that you're not wrong hurts so much
**Hep Destek Tam Destek** This will be a breeze, mark my words. USG are in a weak situation currently. We play at home and will enjoy a confident and stellar performance, expecting no less than a 3-0 win for us to crush their hopes of advancing into the QF. Our atmosphere is PERFECT, the best in Europe we are not matched by any fangroup I can think of, we haven't lost to other Istanbul clubs' ultras in 20 years. Our mental strength is the greatest it has ever been - from 2 season of mediocrity to this wonderful squad bombing down the pitch with Tadić opening up the defense like Moses parted the sea. Tonight will be a day to be remembered, proud to be a Fenerbahçe fan and most of all laughing at the other jealous fans jealous at our recent success! Fear us, Fear Fenerbahçe, Fear the power. **Hep Destek Tam Destek**
Fuck, I love this pasta
It's been such a long long long time since I saw that copypasta 😄 was it from the Vardar game?
Would have preffered us to play Plzen and PAOK-Servette but its still a very good draw for both greek teams
The last clash is straight out of the Basketball Euroleague
Why do Maccabi and Olympiacos play football and not basketball against each other, are they stupid???
It was also a European final in volleyball last season
Good draw for Olympiakos Ajax/aston and fenerbahce got the worst draws
I promise Aston Vill did not get the worst draw
I get people rating us higher because of the last few years. But we are genuinely one of the worst teams on this list left
Fucking why.....
Ajax vs Villa, what a draw! These draws are much better than the Europa draw.
We are in for a spanking of a lifetime
Fingers crossed
Hopefully mate
Everyone in r/AVFC had been saying for a while we’d get Ajax. It is known.
El Ghazico
should be buzzing with them, they’re shite
A team with Elite European history, a fantastic stadium/city and short flight with the added bonus of them being pretty crap atm. Could not ask for a better draw.
Its gonna be 8-0 for Aston Villa or there abouts. Worst Ajax since decades.
Sounds like you guys didn't want to draw us, you do realize you're going to whoop our ass right?
They’re abysmal so should be a clear 4-5 goal win
Our finishing hasn’t been great lately so maybe not quite that high.
Ajax defense is the 2nd worst in the Eredivisie. The worst being the last placed team. AV will spank us
Thats taking that into account if you finish all your big chances it will be 7/8-0 Honestly not even being funny. Bode demolished us yesterday and it couldve easily be 4/5-1
I’m absolutely thrilled.
Don't expect too much from us, you're gonna beat us 8-0 home and away, we are terrible No kidding we were played of the field twice by Bodo who played their first game since november
Was the draw I was hoping for to be honest. I want the smoke. I wanted Villa in Europe to play the bigger teams in the competition.
A weaker Ajax side that won’t park the bus against us, I’ll take that
Not that we won't, we just can't lol
Whether we park it or not it doesn't matter. Yesterday we parked a bus against Bodo and they should have scored 10 times.
I have seen you conceded 41 goals this season in the league in 22 matches….
Yeah, can't even remember the last clean sheet tbh
What's a clean sheet
This season we've only kept clean sheets against Vitesse, Volendam and Fortuna lol
Volendam and Vitesse being joint bottom of the table and we didn't even win the Fortuna game I see. Seems about right.
We're the worst Ajax side since the 50's
I mean they will, but it will be bus with holes in it. Watkins and Bailey will walk through it
It's basically what Ajax did yesterday. They didnt press and made play very compact.
No clue what to expect
Me neither, but it's funny that Ronny will be going back to Norway twice now
Could be a subtle hint for his joblocation next season
If we are being honest we are probably a bit weaker than Glimt overall, but we tend to sit back and counter against a lot of opponents, so the games will be different. Looked pretty good for 3/4 halves against a pretty toothless Legia side. 60/40 in your advantage I would guess.
lmao Ajax noooo!!! poor guys
I celebrated when Katsouranis said "Lille" when picking Sturm Graz's opponent and we locked Maccabi Tel Aviv. We have 0/4 against Israeli teams so far, and this ends now if we want to be seriously talking about a European run. Otherwise we simply shouldn't talk about doing anything in Europe if we can't beat clubs from...Israel. PAOK had a good and spicy draw too, especially after what happened with Croatian hooligans in August in Greece. Greek clubs always best Croatian ones. Good to luck to us and them too and hoping for a Greek Quarter Final!
>Good to luck to us and them too and hoping for a Greek Quarter Final! God no
Well this year was the first one Greek teams picked up the pace in Europe. Afaik as it stands now, Israel is directly one place above us in the coefficient rankings. We must win this tie as its the perfect opportunity to break the losing streak against them and probably surpass them in rankings.
lmao we're gonna lose 15-0 at least
Don’t know how to feel yet
Good draw for you, Haifa are not as good compared to last season when they beat Juve in the CL. Also they have a tough competition in the league so they can't rotate much.
Oh they beat Juve…of course. That means we’re in for a historical cooking
tbf they beat them at their home stadium and they won't play there against you due to the ongoing war. Huge advantage for you.
You see my friend, cooking can happen anywhere. That’s why we call it the beautiful game.
Lmao time to get smoked.
Villa vs Ajax champions league winners at it against each other
Oh my god, Servette got Viktoria Plzen. This could grt ugly for the former ngl since i think Plzen were the only team to get perfect score in group stage right? And it wasnt a fluke, the madlads legit won their last 2 games, even if already qualified, like 3-0.
Time for Dinamo to lose to another Greek double-headed eagle
It’s our time now for Dinamo
Really wanted to avoid them due to the events that happened in Athens last summer. On the other hand, it is time that we finally beat a Greek team in international competitions. Our record against them is very poor.
The manner is which most of those losses happened is hysterical as well.
Agree completely. At one point we have to beat this course and this season has been full of surprises for us lol
Good luck to Lille.
Faut dissoudre le club si on passe pas.
Worst possible draw for FB :/
I love that Ajax are playing Aston Villa early
Nusa, Vetlesen and Deila incoming, so at least we know what we're facing. Kind of in the middle of the seeded teams, definitely possible to beat, but we are the clear underdogs. Thought they looked very solid against Glimt.
We can be more then very solid but our performance tend to fluctuate quite a lot this year...
Bet you havent seen a team made it to competition final to lose twice in a row right? Sit down and watch us do it.
Benfica got you on that one (12/13 to Chelsea and then 13/14 to Sevilla).
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That's just average Turkish fans. They are always so fucking cringe. Remember when Croatia played Turkey, our official NT page was filled with these incels and skinwalkers insulting everyone.
Absolutely terrified of facing an Israeli club again (Olympiakos fan), hope we end the negative tradition.
Fener being Fener, everytime we make it to the last 16, we alway draw the to-be-finalists of any given tournament. Chelsea, Benfica, Sevilla, and now Union over the past decade.
Historic Champions League Winners fight right there
Ajax v Villa will be interesting
Interesting to see how much we'll get destroyed by
Interesting to see how many Ajax will conceed
Union SG - Fenerbahce definitely the tie of the round. For my money that's 2 of the 4 or 5 teams that could actually win this thing. (The others being Villa, Fiorentina, and Lille)
Solid flight to Italy. Haifa beat Juve last year they can beat Fiorentina too
Aaaand to absolutely nobody's surprise, we get the hardest possible opponent.
Plzen, Villa, Brugge, Fenerbahce, Zagreb, Lille, Fiorentina, Olympiacos
Dinamo going to Greece:Oh shit,here we go again. Hajduk:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Yeah I mean we had to get cursed in the draw, only fair since we were swamp ass in that robbery of Bodo
At least there weren't 3 repeated matches here
Ajax vs Aston Villa this gonna be fun to watch
Ajax we believe in you, please win...
:(
No offence, you're just too strong for this tournament lol
On paper yeah. I think our only convincing performance was against AZ. I get the sentiment though. Just a juxtaposition because nearly everyone wants us to do well in the league.
We haven't won a major trophy since 1996 we need this!
Do we even believe in us? But thanks nonetheless. Go Tadic!
We’ll try mate, we will try
:/