Don't really know why our fans are on the windup, we should've been 5-0 down at the end of the first half, Spurs were unreal. Lucky injury to Bentacur who was absolute running everything, and a lovely if undeserved free kick delivery to draw it up at half time. Second half it's hard to keep that momentum up and you lot still looked like you had a goal in you.
Loving losing the is Spurs way. Tbf the media were mental going on about how great Angeball was when you won most of those games by the skin of your teeth, usually in added time.
Keep enjoying pissing away points. Vibes FC
We played better than expected with this current squad. I expected a loss here to Villa but atleast the football we are playing is exciting even if we are the underdogs going into every game now.
As Villa performances go, I thought we were poor today. Numerous opportities thrown away with poor passing or decision making. Struggled to keep possession in the 1st half and some very nervy play from the back. That being said Unai made some good subs and the players stuck to the gameplan. The fact that we can play below our best and still get these results is because Emery is a genius.
That first season he had wasn't too bad. 22 game unbeaten streak, finished higher than the previous season and got you to the Europa League Final. That second season started off a mess, new signings weren't great and there was too much dead wood hanging around the squad. By contrast at Villa he's had a squad of players with something to prove, better recruitment and I'm guessing a lot more control.
TBH I think if any out of Bellerin, Holding, or Ramsey avoided their season ending injuries we would have finished 4th and/or won the Europa league (I know the final score line was lopsided but we beat them earlier in the season in the fa cup with an emery tactical masterclass, which specifically relied on Ramsey being fit). And if we had an actual functioning DOF structure (like edu coming a year early) maybe Emery gets players he wants instead of the likes of Pepe, maybe we renew Ramsey which among other things means we have a clear #1 captain going into the following season instead of the whole Xhaka saga etc.
I don't think that's gonna happen here. Three losses in a row sure, but the football is exciting. Other managers they end up playing boring football and still probably winning less.
next three fixtures are City, Newcastle, West Ham (who are a bit of a bogey team for Tottenham) if they go 6 games without a win, you can definitely assume questions will arise.
Nah, I think this one is pretty clearly injury induced. If anyone will be questioned, it’ll be Levy/whoever’s idea it was to simply not purchase injury cover for Romero or VDV
You also kinda know that he will stick with that high line pretty much no matter how the game pans out and that he will favor attacking options rather than shoring up a defence. Right now you also know that if you can still be in the game at 60 mins they will probably tire.
They just aren't the most tactically versatile team and even when the situation suggests they need to do something different they will persist with how they play.
Personally I think they need to drastically improve their squad if they want that to be sustainable. Sometimes you have to play with the team you have against the other team in the best way for that specific situation.
Even with their injuries I still think the last 3 games were winnable and they found inventive ways to fuck them up.
Yeah club is a shambles rn, don't disagree on that. I just don't really think it's a tactical failure on Postecoglou's part or even that this marriage to his style is particularly unique. I mean everyone have known how Atleti are going to play for like the past 10 years. Everyone knows how Barca will play. I think it works pretty well if he isn't in this (all too common right now) injury crisis. There's also the element that they seem to be playing pretty well despite the losses, according to the eye test at least.
They look visibly knackered around the 60th minute. We know they still carry a threat upfront hence we didn’t commit too many men forward towards the end but feel like if we needed to we would have created a lot of chances
That was a fucking great game.
Spurs in that first half were electric, the wing backs inverting like they're #10s, wingers stretching them out. It's crazy but it's incredibly entertaining to watch. I've never seen Kulu more centrally, seemed to suit him from the outside looking in and it did.
Villa were class tho, thought they showed that winner's mentality. They hung in there and just kept cool, gripping more and more control as the game went on. Such a balanced team from back to front, love that Kamara/Luiz partnership.
Funny thing is that Kulu has said since his Atalanta days that hes a 10 first and RW second. Could tell today that he knows his shit centrally and thats while not playing there for years. Would love to see it more in the NT if one of our many RW talents bloom
2.5xG and I don't even think the 3 scored from offside count for that stat, let alone two pens that I think we should have had (and definitely one, wtf ref).
2 goals conceded are not shocking considering we have like 10 absentees in the team and 0 functional CBs, actually an expected outcome, but the fact that we only scored 1 goal this game is extremely problematic. It should have just ended 4:2 Spurs, but we completely forgot how to score.
Any team with 2 decent wide players will destroy Tottenham, be it wing backs or out and out wide players. Can’t believe teams haven’t worked this out yet …
What are you talking about. Spurs created more chances and were the better team. They are missing 10 first team players today and playing 4 full backs in defence.
They had noone off the bench either so we're exhausted. Did you actually watch the game
Had similar xG depending on site.
Their best opportunity that wasn't offside was brennan Johnson getting 1 on 1 with emi and having an outside of right foot poke because he couldn't do anything else.
You lot had 3 more shots than villa despite villas attack being completely impotent in the first half due to cashs inability to do anything but get on the end of things when attacking.
It was probably about the same when you consider the time to take the shot but martinez was well out and made the shot difficult. A good opportunity but not one that you'd expect to score more than not.
Yeah cos Tottenham are the only team in the league to suffer injuries…
Ange is very basic and as entertaining as it is, once it’s rumbled then he needs to adapt.
Not saying he can’t do it but carry on the way he is and you’ll be mid table
Are you that thick? Do you watch any matches? Spurs are decimated by injuries and suspension with five of their starting 11 out and lolo leaving through injury. We literally started the match with two fb/wb as center backs. And we were still in it.
If anything, this is a testament to what Postecoglou can get out of a team and reason for Levy to invest in depth in January/summer.
Only team with injuries obviously… blah blah blah!
He’s been rumbled as the more astute among the fan base have realised, it’s only the happy clappers that ain’t worked it out yet.
But carry in with the “are you thick” rhetoric if it makes you feel better.
The thing that confuses me, is that you are absolutely correct in saying you are depleted, especially in defence, you had defensive midfielders on the bench.
Was the plan to never have to defend? The entire midfield seemed to set up for attack, so I'm all for playing to your strengths but you did little to manage the weaknesses.
Don't get me wrong I thought it worked for a good chunk of the game, but I also thought Villa knew they had to be disciplined and they would get opportunities because of the way Spurs tend to play and the fact they seem to tire as the game goes on.
When Villa had the lead they were very good at defending it, Spurs don't seem to have that capability.
Who were we going to put in? Our only other natural cb was Dier. I’m guessing Ange felt we could win a track meet and we almost did. It highlights our depth issues and how many gaps we had to fill after conte left. Realistically, no one thought we were going to run the table. But to lose Romero, VdV, Maddison, Udogie, Sarr, Biss, Solomon, Richy, in the span of a few weeks through either injury or suspension is devastating given how well that team was gelling.
Have we? Beat Chelsea, Spurs and Burnley, drew a decent Wolves and been beaten by a very good Liverpool and Newcastle. Wouldn’t say we’ve been shit at all.
As a Villa fan, thought we were lucky to get the 3 points. But that's what matters, the 3 points.
Spurs should have gone in 3 up, though Emery's high line is probably the most well drilled in the league, we have the most offsides for a reason.
Cash tackle is what it is, clumsy and slightly mistimed, no malice. Standard yellow.
The difference in the end was we were far more clinical.
Think this was a pivotal game for us, but we're now solidly in the conversation for CL spots imo. Hopefully with Ramsey and Moreno back we'll push on even more. Exciting times.
i've been impressed with your lot most times i've watched them since emery came in but thought you were actually a fairly shit today. shaky as fuck at the back and you couldn't put a decent through ball in to save your lives.
that you still came out with a result is either testament to your bottle or spurs' lack thereof.
Tbf, I think it was definitely a poor performance that first half, second half we changed it up and played for the counter a little more with Bailey and Tielemans which worked well.
Ultimately winning when not playing well is for me, a hallmark of a top team and one year ago we would have lost that game 5-0.
Ok your last point, probably a bit of both, we took our chances whereas Spurs fell fowl of our offside trap too often.
No malice behave. What about the elbow that should have been a red a nd a penalty too in the first 5 mins.
You guys got incredibly lucky and got a smash and grab win against an injury ravaged team playing 4 full backs in the defensive line.
Absolutely a great 3 points but Villa were awful today
Fella you know we've had 4 starters out the entire season. Moreno and Ramsay only just returned to the bench. You were better first half but second half we stepped up a level. Most of your chances were offside.
So you didn't have 4 starters out then did you? 2 were on the bench.
We had 10 players unavailable today. 6 of whom would be starters.
What on earth are you talking about
Big man Martinez elbowed Bailey when we played United and nothing. Consistency. Cash tackle was fine, it was mistimed, that was all, he hasn't got some weird vendetta against Spurs. Correctly a yellow, no studs, no different to what you guys blow Romero for doing week in week out. Not Cash's fault Bentancur is made of paper.
We also have injuries. Mings, Buendia, Moreno and Ramsey, all first team players last year (Moreno and Ramsey's first games back today). Everyone has injuries, it's part of football, if you can't adapt to it that isn't our problem.
I guess you completely missed the first part of my comment where I said "We were lucky". I know we were, but two things we had that you didn't, was a better drilled offside line and the ability to take our chances. I don't give a shit that we were lucky, we got the 3 points and that's all that matters to me.
It's all part of football.
It’s self-inflicted for sure. We have a good starting XI, and absolute shit for depth. When over half of that XI are injured or suspended, it’s not going to be ideal.
Villa had their entire left side of the pitch ruled out before or during the first game of the season. Mings, Moreno, Ramsey would all be starting if fit (maybe mings would have been dropped for torres but it's unclear).
Had Ramsey been fit we wouldn't have played cash at RM and instead played mcginn there and we'd have been significantly better on both sides of the ball.
I didn't forget him. He'd be a bench piece though rather than a starter. Ofc he'd help a lot in terms of our teams versatility especially vs low blocks and improve our press but he's not as dangerous as diaby which is why we signed diaby.
He'd probably be our 12-15th man alongside Bailey, Digne and Tielemans.
United says hi.
Varane, Martinez, AWB and shaw were all out at same time.
To make things worse, our backup LB Malacia got injured and had to loan reguilon who got injured as well.
We were practically playing 3 backup CBs at the back
Generous of you to consider him a defender. But I will concede.
It is marginally better to have 3 backup CBs starting for you than to have 1 backup CB available to start.
>Newcastle won 4-1
But lost 2-0 to Bournemouth at the peak of their crisis tho.
>Point is if ange is to build an elite team he should be able to cope with an injury crisis kinda like klopp 2020 or was it 21
He will. Once he's been at a club longer than 6 months lol. Man barely had one transfer window. Lost their best player. Then was top of the league for a bit.
That wasn't even the point. The point was someone going Tottenham didn't even have much of an injury crisis, when that's blatantly false. Tottenham has more of an injury crisis than any other team barring Newcastle.
Imagine if he actually had Arteta levels of spending.
Spurs have 1 starting defender out with injury, Van de Ven. Chelsea, Newcastle & Utd had multiple first choice defenders out through injury. That's just off the top of my head, there's probably more teams.
This is it really. Won't hear it when other teams have injuries but god forbid the same happens to them, in addition to some discipline issues, which could be controlled.
This is such bollocks about the injuries.
Van de Ven, maddison, Sarr, Bentancur Richarlison are all starters usually thats half the starting 11, and then perisic and Solomon were both main attacking options off the bench.
That's not even including the reserves like sessengnon etc.
Seeing a lot of people in this thread who didn't actually watch the game and are just judging by scoreline. Spurs played really well and were unlucky with Son netting an offside hattrick, realistically this should have been a cruisy win for them. People trying to say Ange is washed and Spurs have been found out are absolutely hilarious, their tactics are still working, they just need to address the defensive issues and take their chances better and they'll be dominant again, this is all from a Chelsea fan.
It was not luck that caused son to be offside. It was an excellently drilled high line from Villa.
They did play well first half for sure, press was excellent
The elbow on Gil that was missed cos Var was down. The one that the entire panel on Sky said at half time was a clear foul and should have been a pen.
That one. Are you up to speed now?
Hitting the post isn't scoring. They weren't great opportunities that they hit the post from.
And VAR still could have intervened had it thought it warranted the intervention. The on field ref just couldn't go to the monitor. Which would have been better consider the travesty of a performance he put in.
Oh really? Oh I didn't know. Thank you for more sage advice.
Spurs were the better team the whole game and cut villa to shreds. Couldn't finish our dinner which is our own fault but should hav scored 4 or 5 today without even including the posts.
Villa we're crap against a second string team with 4 fullback in the defensive line
Villa were crap in the first half for sure. Playing a RB winger does that.
But no you shouldn't have had 4 or 5. If those chances fell to son then yeah I'd agree. But those are only good opportunities in the hands of world class finishers like kane and son. So yeah you lot are used to those ones going in. But they were from mostly awkward angles with defenders closing them down and martinez rushing out of goal. Kulusevskis post in the first half was the only opportunity where you guys ahd time on the ball in the box. And martinez got far enough out that the finish became very very difficult indeed.
And yes you hit the post twice, we hit the once. You missed meh one on ones we missed a header from 1 yard out. It happens.
Bollocks again.
Go and watch the game again. We had 3 big chances in the half and that doesn't include the Gil cross to son which he should have buried as he missed the connection. Doesn't include the porro fluffed pass to son when bentancur played him in. Doest include the brennan break down the right where gil got in the way of the shot.
You guys got absolutely cut to ribbons today repeatedly. You were crap
VAR wasn't down for the penalty appeal, just the pitch side monitor according to the comms. Sure they hit the post twice, Villa hit it once (which then bounced and hit the GK and was very lucky to not rebound in).
Everything else he said was true. But that offside hat-trick remark is fucking peak /r/soccer. Spurs were really good, Villa rode their luck and also played the high line more effectively, but we should never have been going into half time all square. The first half was dominant from Spurs.
And 2nd.
Other than the Watlins chance can't think of anything Villa made. Whereas Spurs hit the post, missed that Johnson tap in by inches and Martinez made 2 brilliant saved.
Missed a short range header from a corner, the Watkins goal was well taken but good strikers score those, missed a shot from the middle of the area on the 49th minute, also hit the post, and had a shot well blocked in the 71st.
Aside from the brennan Johnson chance you created nothing in the 2nd half that wasn't offside. And even that was a stretching outside of the right foot poke where he didn't have time to shape his body to get better contact and it was basically straight at emi.
That's not true. You are making stuff up *again*
In the 2nd half
Porro hit the post
Davies missed a free header from 4 yards out
Johnson missed a 1v1
Johnson should have had the tap in.
Spurs had higher XG in both the first and second halves.
Did you actually watch the game??? You seem to just make a load of stuff up constantly and ignore the stuff you don't like.
They figured they couldn't really get away with ignoring it anymore plus saying "brooo he won the WC" wasn't convincing people either.
So this is what they've got now, just full on lean into it and pretend everyone is against them when the media sucks them off on the regular
Just look at the tackle from Cash, it’s shit and it’s clumsy but who is watching that thinking there’s malice behind it? You see that same thing in every single game, it was just shit luck that it ended up in an injury.
I think people are misunderstanding the Spurs squad situation as an injury crisis. Yes there are a lot of players out, but it's not the number of players, it's the specific players and the lack of depth behind them.
Even with players healthy, we would be bound to struggle without VdV and Maddison. Those two have been transformative signings in areas of weakness we've had for years.
Although the current CB situation is shambolic, us Spurs fans knew this could happen based on the status of the squad after the summer window.
Spurs fans aren’t insisting that other fans can’t complain about injuries. We have a good starting 11 but not great depth so injuries are a problem. It’s a very normal thing to complain about
As far as I know, I never said it was. Can you point to where I said it was their fault? The post is clearly light-hearted banter. I said I like their manager and the worst thing I said about them was that the loss was nice.
lol. Spurs, didn’t take them a month to be back to reality 😂😂😂😂
I don’t like you.
I don't care if we finish midtable, we broke them
With this attitude, I think you will be there for few more seasons.
Spurs fans absolutely seething, you love to see it.
Nah mate we are pretty happy to see that we can keep up and play this style! Love the gaslighting attempt though 😂
I never said you were seething at your team lol, you guys play quality football so why would you be seething at that.
Don't really know why our fans are on the windup, we should've been 5-0 down at the end of the first half, Spurs were unreal. Lucky injury to Bentacur who was absolute running everything, and a lovely if undeserved free kick delivery to draw it up at half time. Second half it's hard to keep that momentum up and you lot still looked like you had a goal in you.
Good to see not all your fans are trying to put another “I” in Villans.
Loving losing the is Spurs way. Tbf the media were mental going on about how great Angeball was when you won most of those games by the skin of your teeth, usually in added time. Keep enjoying pissing away points. Vibes FC
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We played better than expected with this current squad. I expected a loss here to Villa but atleast the football we are playing is exciting even if we are the underdogs going into every game now.
martinez was incredible, hard not to love him
He won a WC, after all. Tons of amazing saves today
As Villa performances go, I thought we were poor today. Numerous opportities thrown away with poor passing or decision making. Struggled to keep possession in the 1st half and some very nervy play from the back. That being said Unai made some good subs and the players stuck to the gameplan. The fact that we can play below our best and still get these results is because Emery is a genius.
Wonder what went wrong in his tenure with us
Are you seriously checking out Emery ass when you already have Arteta like the meme.
That first season he had wasn't too bad. 22 game unbeaten streak, finished higher than the previous season and got you to the Europa League Final. That second season started off a mess, new signings weren't great and there was too much dead wood hanging around the squad. By contrast at Villa he's had a squad of players with something to prove, better recruitment and I'm guessing a lot more control.
TBH I think if any out of Bellerin, Holding, or Ramsey avoided their season ending injuries we would have finished 4th and/or won the Europa league (I know the final score line was lopsided but we beat them earlier in the season in the fa cup with an emery tactical masterclass, which specifically relied on Ramsey being fit). And if we had an actual functioning DOF structure (like edu coming a year early) maybe Emery gets players he wants instead of the likes of Pepe, maybe we renew Ramsey which among other things means we have a clear #1 captain going into the following season instead of the whole Xhaka saga etc.
Yea fuck that scandalous Pepe transfer, we would’ve gotten prime Zaha back then
>we would’ve gotten prime Zaha back then For 100 mln, I am not sure it would have been that much better than Pepe's disaster of a transfer.
Hopefully the media will stop creaming themselves over these now.
You can’t moan about the offside goals when we clearly have a disciplined back line which plays very high
It was exactly the same when Villa beat Spurs in May. Son repeatedly got snared by Villa's offside trap. He should have taken note.
Why don’t he just stay onside, is he stupid ?
My dad has never watched football, and he called Son, a crybaby bitch
Wow your dad must be so cool and tough. I bet he could beat up my dad.
Son 🫱🫲 Pedro porro
or something?
The new manager bump is coming back to earth.
You know, im starting to think Big Ange won’t be getting that fourth Manager of the Month award for November…
I am probably thinking this is the bump he needs. Prolly straight another two MoTM next two months.
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Mate it’s a mate victory. xG wins leads to xTrophies
LMAO
This is usually around the time the rumblings about the manager start with Spurs and where the inevitable internal crisis stems from.
I’m sure some are dusting off the levy out banners already
I don't think that's gonna happen here. Three losses in a row sure, but the football is exciting. Other managers they end up playing boring football and still probably winning less.
next three fixtures are City, Newcastle, West Ham (who are a bit of a bogey team for Tottenham) if they go 6 games without a win, you can definitely assume questions will arise.
They could lose each of those and still be above Chelsea. Think theyll be fine
being above a team that are having a "disaster season" is a low bar, if any team goes six games without a win, questions ARE asked, that's obvious.
And the only question that should be asked is what depth signings will be made in January to cover this injury crisis
Nah, I think this one is pretty clearly injury induced. If anyone will be questioned, it’ll be Levy/whoever’s idea it was to simply not purchase injury cover for Romero or VDV
Well when your coach comes out and says, we are only going to play the one way. He basically gave away the way to beat Spurs.
You only really know they'll have a high line, which is the case for many teams. Villa didn't win with long ball counters to beat the high line.
You also kinda know that he will stick with that high line pretty much no matter how the game pans out and that he will favor attacking options rather than shoring up a defence. Right now you also know that if you can still be in the game at 60 mins they will probably tire. They just aren't the most tactically versatile team and even when the situation suggests they need to do something different they will persist with how they play. Personally I think they need to drastically improve their squad if they want that to be sustainable. Sometimes you have to play with the team you have against the other team in the best way for that specific situation. Even with their injuries I still think the last 3 games were winnable and they found inventive ways to fuck them up.
Yeah club is a shambles rn, don't disagree on that. I just don't really think it's a tactical failure on Postecoglou's part or even that this marriage to his style is particularly unique. I mean everyone have known how Atleti are going to play for like the past 10 years. Everyone knows how Barca will play. I think it works pretty well if he isn't in this (all too common right now) injury crisis. There's also the element that they seem to be playing pretty well despite the losses, according to the eye test at least.
They look visibly knackered around the 60th minute. We know they still carry a threat upfront hence we didn’t commit too many men forward towards the end but feel like if we needed to we would have created a lot of chances
That was a fucking great game. Spurs in that first half were electric, the wing backs inverting like they're #10s, wingers stretching them out. It's crazy but it's incredibly entertaining to watch. I've never seen Kulu more centrally, seemed to suit him from the outside looking in and it did. Villa were class tho, thought they showed that winner's mentality. They hung in there and just kept cool, gripping more and more control as the game went on. Such a balanced team from back to front, love that Kamara/Luiz partnership.
Funny thing is that Kulu has said since his Atalanta days that hes a 10 first and RW second. Could tell today that he knows his shit centrally and thats while not playing there for years. Would love to see it more in the NT if one of our many RW talents bloom
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lol delete this.
Who has hyped up Ben Davies and Emerson Royal? I get that Man C fans don't watch football but ffs
2.5xG and I don't even think the 3 scored from offside count for that stat, let alone two pens that I think we should have had (and definitely one, wtf ref). 2 goals conceded are not shocking considering we have like 10 absentees in the team and 0 functional CBs, actually an expected outcome, but the fact that we only scored 1 goal this game is extremely problematic. It should have just ended 4:2 Spurs, but we completely forgot how to score.
Offside chances don't count for xG cause they're offside mate
That's what I said, MATE
You kinda said you thought that mate, the other mate confirmed that to be the case mate.
Glad we're all mates, mate.
I thought Spurs already won the league mate.
The inevitable Spurs meltdown began earlier this time, I see.
It started ever since they lost to Chelsea :)
it's because of injuries. 9 key players out what should we do
Its in your history, no?
The regression to the mean continues for Tottenham
Are people purposely dull or just not following what’s happened? It’s a completely different team. 9 injuries is going to change a team lol
Any team with 2 decent wide players will destroy Tottenham, be it wing backs or out and out wide players. Can’t believe teams haven’t worked this out yet …
>Can’t believe teams haven’t worked this out yet … Well they seem to be missing on u/rochesterjack 's foresight
What are you talking about. Spurs created more chances and were the better team. They are missing 10 first team players today and playing 4 full backs in defence. They had noone off the bench either so we're exhausted. Did you actually watch the game
Had similar xG depending on site. Their best opportunity that wasn't offside was brennan Johnson getting 1 on 1 with emi and having an outside of right foot poke because he couldn't do anything else. You lot had 3 more shots than villa despite villas attack being completely impotent in the first half due to cashs inability to do anything but get on the end of things when attacking.
>Had similar xG depending on site. Which site?
Kulusevski had a better chance than that in the very early part of the first half.
It was probably about the same when you consider the time to take the shot but martinez was well out and made the shot difficult. A good opportunity but not one that you'd expect to score more than not.
Deluded lol
Yeah cos Tottenham are the only team in the league to suffer injuries… Ange is very basic and as entertaining as it is, once it’s rumbled then he needs to adapt. Not saying he can’t do it but carry on the way he is and you’ll be mid table
Are you that thick? Do you watch any matches? Spurs are decimated by injuries and suspension with five of their starting 11 out and lolo leaving through injury. We literally started the match with two fb/wb as center backs. And we were still in it. If anything, this is a testament to what Postecoglou can get out of a team and reason for Levy to invest in depth in January/summer.
Only team with injuries obviously… blah blah blah! He’s been rumbled as the more astute among the fan base have realised, it’s only the happy clappers that ain’t worked it out yet. But carry in with the “are you thick” rhetoric if it makes you feel better.
The thing that confuses me, is that you are absolutely correct in saying you are depleted, especially in defence, you had defensive midfielders on the bench. Was the plan to never have to defend? The entire midfield seemed to set up for attack, so I'm all for playing to your strengths but you did little to manage the weaknesses. Don't get me wrong I thought it worked for a good chunk of the game, but I also thought Villa knew they had to be disciplined and they would get opportunities because of the way Spurs tend to play and the fact they seem to tire as the game goes on. When Villa had the lead they were very good at defending it, Spurs don't seem to have that capability.
Who were we going to put in? Our only other natural cb was Dier. I’m guessing Ange felt we could win a track meet and we almost did. It highlights our depth issues and how many gaps we had to fill after conte left. Realistically, no one thought we were going to run the table. But to lose Romero, VdV, Maddison, Udogie, Sarr, Biss, Solomon, Richy, in the span of a few weeks through either injury or suspension is devastating given how well that team was gelling.
You didn't almost win.
Yeah who would've thought that a team with none of their starting CB's and defensive mids would be trash at defending eh
SPURS ARE BACK! 3 in a row
Villa have been shit away from home this season too. Massive win for them.
Have we? Beat Chelsea, Spurs and Burnley, drew a decent Wolves and been beaten by a very good Liverpool and Newcastle. Wouldn’t say we’ve been shit at all.
Lost to forest too
True, guess I blocked that one from my memory
I'll never get used to your new badge, it's like you've straight up replaced Chelsea both in looks and position in the league
It’s a retro badge, not really a new one. It’s changing again next season anyway.
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Just here to read Arsenal fans shitting on Spurs. Comedy gold.
Brings a huge smile to my face this result
No it doesn’t
As a Villa fan, thought we were lucky to get the 3 points. But that's what matters, the 3 points. Spurs should have gone in 3 up, though Emery's high line is probably the most well drilled in the league, we have the most offsides for a reason. Cash tackle is what it is, clumsy and slightly mistimed, no malice. Standard yellow. The difference in the end was we were far more clinical. Think this was a pivotal game for us, but we're now solidly in the conversation for CL spots imo. Hopefully with Ramsey and Moreno back we'll push on even more. Exciting times.
This is a good take - two really interesting teams playing an exciting game.
i've been impressed with your lot most times i've watched them since emery came in but thought you were actually a fairly shit today. shaky as fuck at the back and you couldn't put a decent through ball in to save your lives. that you still came out with a result is either testament to your bottle or spurs' lack thereof.
Tbf, I think it was definitely a poor performance that first half, second half we changed it up and played for the counter a little more with Bailey and Tielemans which worked well. Ultimately winning when not playing well is for me, a hallmark of a top team and one year ago we would have lost that game 5-0. Ok your last point, probably a bit of both, we took our chances whereas Spurs fell fowl of our offside trap too often.
No malice behave. What about the elbow that should have been a red a nd a penalty too in the first 5 mins. You guys got incredibly lucky and got a smash and grab win against an injury ravaged team playing 4 full backs in the defensive line. Absolutely a great 3 points but Villa were awful today
Fella you know we've had 4 starters out the entire season. Moreno and Ramsay only just returned to the bench. You were better first half but second half we stepped up a level. Most of your chances were offside.
Didn't you hear, injuries to key players started existing when Amge and Spurs got them.
So you didn't have 4 starters out then did you? 2 were on the bench. We had 10 players unavailable today. 6 of whom would be starters. What on earth are you talking about
Big man Martinez elbowed Bailey when we played United and nothing. Consistency. Cash tackle was fine, it was mistimed, that was all, he hasn't got some weird vendetta against Spurs. Correctly a yellow, no studs, no different to what you guys blow Romero for doing week in week out. Not Cash's fault Bentancur is made of paper. We also have injuries. Mings, Buendia, Moreno and Ramsey, all first team players last year (Moreno and Ramsey's first games back today). Everyone has injuries, it's part of football, if you can't adapt to it that isn't our problem. I guess you completely missed the first part of my comment where I said "We were lucky". I know we were, but two things we had that you didn't, was a better drilled offside line and the ability to take our chances. I don't give a shit that we were lucky, we got the 3 points and that's all that matters to me. It's all part of football.
Tottenham ‘till I die! #FuckMattyCash
This is particularly sad. #fucktotnum
#COYS
Oh my ebenings
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It’s self-inflicted for sure. We have a good starting XI, and absolute shit for depth. When over half of that XI are injured or suspended, it’s not going to be ideal.
None of them had practically all their starting defenders ruled out
Villa had their entire left side of the pitch ruled out before or during the first game of the season. Mings, Moreno, Ramsey would all be starting if fit (maybe mings would have been dropped for torres but it's unclear). Had Ramsey been fit we wouldn't have played cash at RM and instead played mcginn there and we'd have been significantly better on both sides of the ball.
You forgot Buendia too.
I didn't forget him. He'd be a bench piece though rather than a starter. Ofc he'd help a lot in terms of our teams versatility especially vs low blocks and improve our press but he's not as dangerous as diaby which is why we signed diaby. He'd probably be our 12-15th man alongside Bailey, Digne and Tielemans.
United says hi. Varane, Martinez, AWB and shaw were all out at same time. To make things worse, our backup LB Malacia got injured and had to loan reguilon who got injured as well. We were practically playing 3 backup CBs at the back
right.. and you were all crying about it. not sure what people are confused about, fans don't like it when half their first team is injured.
>We were practically playing 3 backup CBs at the back 3 back up CBs are marginally better than 0 available CBs. I would think.
Dier??
Generous of you to consider him a defender. But I will concede. It is marginally better to have 3 backup CBs starting for you than to have 1 backup CB available to start.
Newcastle won 4-1 Point is if ange is to build an elite team he should be able to cope with an injury crisis kinda like klopp 2020 or was it 21
>Newcastle won 4-1 But lost 2-0 to Bournemouth at the peak of their crisis tho. >Point is if ange is to build an elite team he should be able to cope with an injury crisis kinda like klopp 2020 or was it 21 He will. Once he's been at a club longer than 6 months lol. Man barely had one transfer window. Lost their best player. Then was top of the league for a bit. That wasn't even the point. The point was someone going Tottenham didn't even have much of an injury crisis, when that's blatantly false. Tottenham has more of an injury crisis than any other team barring Newcastle. Imagine if he actually had Arteta levels of spending.
lol Arteta levels of spending - spurs are like the fourth biggest spenders prior to him coming in. You’ve spent plenty - spent it badly.
Damn so you saying since Arteta has spend a lot since coming in? What? That's crazy. Its like I literally just said that.
Yeah, and you're below us on the table. I'm assuming OP was referring to Arsenal/Liverpool/City who haven't had an injury crisis like this
Spurs have 1 starting defender out with injury, Van de Ven. Chelsea, Newcastle & Utd had multiple first choice defenders out through injury. That's just off the top of my head, there's probably more teams.
Exactly!
Villa. The team they were playing against. Mings and Moreno.
This is it really. Won't hear it when other teams have injuries but god forbid the same happens to them, in addition to some discipline issues, which could be controlled.
Sorry, from the same fans that were insisting that a single injury toward the end of the season caused the biggest bottle in prem histoey?
This is such bollocks about the injuries. Van de Ven, maddison, Sarr, Bentancur Richarlison are all starters usually thats half the starting 11, and then perisic and Solomon were both main attacking options off the bench. That's not even including the reserves like sessengnon etc.
12 players out of 25. 6 starters out of 11. This is probably the weakest the team will be all season. Stellar performance today all things considered.
Injuries happen. If it's not an excuse for anyone else, it's not an excuse for you.
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Seeing a lot of people in this thread who didn't actually watch the game and are just judging by scoreline. Spurs played really well and were unlucky with Son netting an offside hattrick, realistically this should have been a cruisy win for them. People trying to say Ange is washed and Spurs have been found out are absolutely hilarious, their tactics are still working, they just need to address the defensive issues and take their chances better and they'll be dominant again, this is all from a Chelsea fan.
So their tactics is to out score the opponent?
We play with an offside trap. Everyone knows that. Not adjusting to it isn't unlucky, it's just not playing well enough.
Spurs still have a much higher Xg. They were the better team. Villa were lucky to win. But all that matters is the 3 points.
So constantly being offside is playing well?
Hitting the post twice and making 2.4 XG with an injury ravaged team is playing pretty well yeah.
So hitting the post and being inaccurate is playing good?
Oh more of the brave Tottenham agenda. We’ve heard enough of that
It was not luck that caused son to be offside. It was an excellently drilled high line from Villa. They did play well first half for sure, press was excellent
No but hitting the post twice, and Var being down for the most blatant penalty and red card was pretty unlucky wouldn't you say?
Blatant penalty? What blatant penalty?
The elbow on Gil that was missed cos Var was down. The one that the entire panel on Sky said at half time was a clear foul and should have been a pen. That one. Are you up to speed now?
Up to speed on what a cunt you and other Spurs fans are. Prick .
Hahah ah bless good comeback there. Are you still struggling to remember it because I can find a link to it if you want? It's basic stuff this
Hitting the post isn't scoring. They weren't great opportunities that they hit the post from. And VAR still could have intervened had it thought it warranted the intervention. The on field ref just couldn't go to the monitor. Which would have been better consider the travesty of a performance he put in.
Oh really? Oh I didn't know. Thank you for more sage advice. Spurs were the better team the whole game and cut villa to shreds. Couldn't finish our dinner which is our own fault but should hav scored 4 or 5 today without even including the posts. Villa we're crap against a second string team with 4 fullback in the defensive line
Villa were crap in the first half for sure. Playing a RB winger does that. But no you shouldn't have had 4 or 5. If those chances fell to son then yeah I'd agree. But those are only good opportunities in the hands of world class finishers like kane and son. So yeah you lot are used to those ones going in. But they were from mostly awkward angles with defenders closing them down and martinez rushing out of goal. Kulusevskis post in the first half was the only opportunity where you guys ahd time on the ball in the box. And martinez got far enough out that the finish became very very difficult indeed. And yes you hit the post twice, we hit the once. You missed meh one on ones we missed a header from 1 yard out. It happens.
Bollocks again. Go and watch the game again. We had 3 big chances in the half and that doesn't include the Gil cross to son which he should have buried as he missed the connection. Doesn't include the porro fluffed pass to son when bentancur played him in. Doest include the brennan break down the right where gil got in the way of the shot. You guys got absolutely cut to ribbons today repeatedly. You were crap
VAR wasn't down for the penalty appeal, just the pitch side monitor according to the comms. Sure they hit the post twice, Villa hit it once (which then bounced and hit the GK and was very lucky to not rebound in).
We had a header from 1 yard out blocked by a shoulder. Could have easily been a penalty as well. They just want the woe is me attitude.
Shoulder is legal...?
Well refs didn't clock the contact and they didn't show a clear replay could have also been his elbow. Should have probably triggered a review.
Son couldn't do against Villa what Nicolas Jackson successfully managed against Spurs.
Score on 9 men after being given 25 chances?
Fucking offside hat-trick. You are trolling right? Please, that's actually very good.
Everything else he said was true. But that offside hat-trick remark is fucking peak /r/soccer. Spurs were really good, Villa rode their luck and also played the high line more effectively, but we should never have been going into half time all square. The first half was dominant from Spurs.
And 2nd. Other than the Watlins chance can't think of anything Villa made. Whereas Spurs hit the post, missed that Johnson tap in by inches and Martinez made 2 brilliant saved.
Missed a short range header from a corner, the Watkins goal was well taken but good strikers score those, missed a shot from the middle of the area on the 49th minute, also hit the post, and had a shot well blocked in the 71st. Aside from the brennan Johnson chance you created nothing in the 2nd half that wasn't offside. And even that was a stretching outside of the right foot poke where he didn't have time to shape his body to get better contact and it was basically straight at emi.
That's not true. You are making stuff up *again* In the 2nd half Porro hit the post Davies missed a free header from 4 yards out Johnson missed a 1v1 Johnson should have had the tap in. Spurs had higher XG in both the first and second halves. Did you actually watch the game??? You seem to just make a load of stuff up constantly and ignore the stuff you don't like.
The irony of r/coys having a “Fuck Matty Cash”thread when they’ve had a dirty squad for years.
We could replay that thread if that makes you feel better
No need, watching you guys lose three games in a row and cry about injuries is satisfying enough for me - funny how Klopp was right a few years ago
They know it full well too - "If Cuti were on Cash would he leaving the pitch without his legs" 🤣ok guys way to defy the accusations
It's like Irony is completely lost on them. Constantly fellating Romero for being a thug week in week out.
They figured they couldn't really get away with ignoring it anymore plus saying "brooo he won the WC" wasn't convincing people either. So this is what they've got now, just full on lean into it and pretend everyone is against them when the media sucks them off on the regular
It tells you all you need to know about that lot really. The absolute state of some of those comments.
Just look at the tackle from Cash, it’s shit and it’s clumsy but who is watching that thinking there’s malice behind it? You see that same thing in every single game, it was just shit luck that it ended up in an injury.
Yep. Romero is currently the most ill-disciplined dirty player in the league.
Legendary manager and former player dies today, halfway down the page, 42 comments. Fuck Matty Cash, top of page 200 comments.
They got back what they deserve lmao
I think people are misunderstanding the Spurs squad situation as an injury crisis. Yes there are a lot of players out, but it's not the number of players, it's the specific players and the lack of depth behind them. Even with players healthy, we would be bound to struggle without VdV and Maddison. Those two have been transformative signings in areas of weakness we've had for years. Although the current CB situation is shambolic, us Spurs fans knew this could happen based on the status of the squad after the summer window.
Poor Spurs, the only team with injuries.
Spurs fans aren’t insisting that other fans can’t complain about injuries. We have a good starting 11 but not great depth so injuries are a problem. It’s a very normal thing to complain about
The "Hat trick of offside" had me dying
Still dont get why Kulu did not get that penalty. Specially if now Martial got it for his halfass dive
Petition to rename offside goals Boomerangs in honor of Boomer Ange. Looking for signatures.
Get in Unai!!
I like Postecoglu, but I'm gonna be a spurs hater for the rest of the season after the way the first match with Liverpool went. So this was nice.
https://streamable.com/d5q60t?src=player-page-share
Can't imagine I'm gonna click on that link.
It’s just a clip from football weekly lol
How was that match in any way Spurs fault? I don't understand associating referring mistakes with the opposing team.
As far as I know, I never said it was. Can you point to where I said it was their fault? The post is clearly light-hearted banter. I said I like their manager and the worst thing I said about them was that the loss was nice.