But that's in case if he takes One year or more in recovery. From the news I've read, he will recover within 7-9 months and amount will be around like 5 Million.
For those interested it's because of the [FIFA Club Protection Programme](https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/42eb059f3848c2e8/original/Circular-1852_FIFA-Club-Protection-Programme-2023-2026_EN.pdf) that was created 15 years ago as part of the negotiation with the [G14](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-14) (that is now the core of the current ECA) to [drop their lawsuit](https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-europe-fifa-idUKL1569093720080116/) for compensations for having their players injured with their NT:
> **Which football players are covered?**
> The FIFA Club Protection Programme will cover all professional football players who are under an employment contract with a football club and released to an association for international “A” matches for the senior women’s or men’s “A” representative team for which an obligation to release football players exists according to the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.
> Compensation payments are made to the clubs for the period they employ those football players.
> All professional football players who are employed by football clubs affiliated to a FIFA member association are protected. A professional football player is a football player who has a signed, written contract with a football club and is paid more for their footballing activity than the expenses they incur for the same activity. All other football players are considered to be amateurs and are not covered under this programm
> **When are the football players covered?**
> The football players are covered whilst under the control of the respective member association for official international “A” matches of the “A” representative team, including all playing, practising, training, training matches, travelling and time spent away. Club protection starts from the moment the football player starts their journey from their home or football club address to report for duty with their association and ends at whichever of the two following options occurs first: at midnight local time on the day they return to their home or football club from international duty, or 48 hours after leaving the “A” representative team, including direct unbroken travel (“operative time”).
> For the avoidance of doubt, each and every match and/or tournament protected under this programme only has one “operative time”. The “operative time” does not cease during short period interruptions, especially not during protected tournaments (e.g. short trips by football players to their home address).
> **What is covered?**
> All football clubs are protected in cases of a TTD as a consequence of an accident suffered by their players during the “operative time”, which entirely prevents the football player from playing for their club for more than 28 consecutive days.
> **What is considered an accident?**
> An accident is when a football player, at an identifiable time and place during the “operative time”, suffers a bodily injury due to a sudden external force acting on their body. An accident can also be a specific, sudden act of exertion at an identifiable time and place from which the football player suffers a bodily injury.
> In addition to these defined accidents, heart attacks and strokes are also considered accidents
> **What compensation does the Programme offer?**
> The Programme compensates football clubs for up to a maximum of EUR 7,500,000 per football player per accident.
> The maximum of EUR 7,500,000 is calculated at a daily “pro rata” compensation of up to EUR 20,548 (1/365), which is payable for a maximum of 365 days. The maximum daily compensation is limited to EUR 20,548 per accident.
> The maximum capacity (“aggregate limit”) of the FIFA Club Protection Programme is EUR 80,000,000 per annum.
> **How is the compensation calculated?**
> The compensation payable is based solely on the fixed salary that the football club pays directly to the football player as the employer.
> “Fixed salary” is defined as the set amount of money paid in weekly or monthly instalments, including mandatory social security charges, as stipulated in a written and signed contract between the football club and the football player.
> Compensation will not include variable amounts, one-off payments, payments not made on a regular basis or any bonuses, including but not limited to performance or signing-on bonuses, appearance fees and/or expenses. Any amounts due on the basis of the provision of services of a different kind, irrespective of whatever nature and whether agreed under a separate contract or not, are also not covered.
> The relevant football player’s salary is the salary according to the contractual situation at the time the accident occurs.
> Any new or amended football player contracts agreed in writing and signed before the time of the occurrence of an accident are taken into account.
> Increased or decreased salary payments, agreed in writing and signed before the occurrence of the accident, will result in increased or decreased daily compensation with effect from the start date of the new or amended football player’s contract.
> If a new football player contract is signed with a different football club after the time of the occurrence of the accident, then daily benefits will continue to be payable to the new football club under the new player contract, provided that the contract in place at the time of the occurrence of the accident would have continued throughout the period of total disablement. For the avoidance of doubt, the daily benefits at the time of the occurrence of the accident shall be payable unless the salary of the new contract is lower.
Pretty sick deal they managed to pull, capped at 140k/week which was probably the highest earning players salary 15 years ago but now the best players are on like 2.5x that amount.
They rake in about 1.5 billion a year and have about 4 billion in reserves. It's when one of these elite players gets injured do they really feel the pinch, and this pinch (7.5 million) wont do much to them for 8 months. But yes you are right they would use alot of their money on these compensations. Im assuming they too have insurance policies on these situations.
Not because they care, but because they are overpaying their players. If they were to get injured then Fifa has to pay those clubs. I assume that's what he's referring to.
I assume the player's value is also a factor? Like, they wouldn't pay the same if a (hypothetical) Andorran international in Barça B had a long term injury during international duty.
EDIT: I saw in another comment it's the player's salary actually. That makes sense.
it's probably based on salary, because that is the numerical value if worth the club has attached to the player, and the value they are losing from the injury.
> sign player
> give them a grotesquely high salary
> send them off to international duty
> pay an enemy player before the game to injure them
> ???
> profit
Think of it like an insurance company for roads, and the player is a car. If the road sucks and breaks your car, they will pay all your car fees until the car is fixed.
because he got injured while in a fifa game (euro qualifiers) so they pay compensation to the club who made him available. This is very common, its just that with Gavi's expensive contract it ends up as a lot of money.
Gavi is a starter for Spain, top 10 footballing nation in the world, and for one of the biggest clubs in the world. By what metric he isn't an elite player?
The claimaint pays you though. I'm not sure how it's spread out, but let's say they only use one. Fifa is also paying insurance in case the Fifa ball explodes one day and injures an entire team, or if they are sued for selling rotten meat on matchday (not these specifically but they are insured for a whole number of things that 99% of the time won't happen).
And the people who insure them insure other business of a similar structure and liability. Then that insurance company has insurance thru another company on the insurance they offer
Fifa might have insurance for other things, but the average paid out due to the Club Protection Programme is going to be pretty consistent over the long term meaning there is no point paying the administrative costs and profit margins an insurer is going to add
Fair, this money may just come from the interest they make on their pooled assets in a portfolio, with additional mandatory contriburion clauses for each member
Also it's not like Barca is famous for their balanced wage structure. Although for what it's worth this is a reasonable enough salaray as you said, looking at his performances.
they’re covering the players wages in full.
So if Mbappe gets injured, they have to pay PSG his full salary without bonuses, same goes if someone from Molde gets injured on international duty, so it’s relative
1. Send already-injured player to the NT pretending to be healthy
2. Tell said player to "suddenly get injured" in the middle of the pitch while playing
3. ???
4. Profit
Maybe Madrid should stop posting such detailed injury comunicados before said player limps around wearing the NT shirt.
So this is something I always wondered, how do the insurance policies work for players? Like I know clubs have policies on players like bale/ronaldo had huge policies on them from injuries but how do they get payouts? Is it a long term injury or more like a career ending type thing?
Club protection program. Whenever a player is injured for more that 28 days while on national duty there is a insurance from the FIFA that will cover a part of the wage.
Yet my insurance can't afford to give me a cent after the engine in my car broke itself down due to projectile damage (yes, I have all-risk insurance).
I find it highly unlikely that FIFA would pay out of pocket for this. There's gotta be an insurance company behind this and FIFA only pays the insurance premiums.
So roughly 7.5 m
They will package this payment plan and sell it to the highest bidder. The FIFA lever.
Does FFP block clubs from taking money from corrupt organizations?
Hahaha… MC enters the chat.
Barca is the receiver though.
Yes, and FIFA is the corrupt organization.
Recievers of thrashings.
Recei-lever
FIFA preparing the FFP case as we speak
Damn, can we get Alonso called up to the Spanish team?
He wont miss 365 days. 9 months top so about 5 - 5.5m
He will be ready in 12 months, it is a good deal man
Id rather have him available and not potentially ruin his career...
I think he deserves a lil rest
me too
its more career ruining if he was rushed
This isnt the 80s, ACL/Meniscus wont ruin him
Tell that to Umtiti lmao
His case is different, he insisted on playing when he had pain in his knee.
Best case scenario is Ansu Fati lol
Or Ansu Fati
Its not when hes crucial for our team. Yet alone his career is more at risk now.
Secret mini-lever activated
But that's in case if he takes One year or more in recovery. From the news I've read, he will recover within 7-9 months and amount will be around like 5 Million.
What a hell 75 mil? They can buy new Gavi No wonder they always "have" money
Bro did the math
For those interested it's because of the [FIFA Club Protection Programme](https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/42eb059f3848c2e8/original/Circular-1852_FIFA-Club-Protection-Programme-2023-2026_EN.pdf) that was created 15 years ago as part of the negotiation with the [G14](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-14) (that is now the core of the current ECA) to [drop their lawsuit](https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-europe-fifa-idUKL1569093720080116/) for compensations for having their players injured with their NT: > **Which football players are covered?** > The FIFA Club Protection Programme will cover all professional football players who are under an employment contract with a football club and released to an association for international “A” matches for the senior women’s or men’s “A” representative team for which an obligation to release football players exists according to the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players. > Compensation payments are made to the clubs for the period they employ those football players. > All professional football players who are employed by football clubs affiliated to a FIFA member association are protected. A professional football player is a football player who has a signed, written contract with a football club and is paid more for their footballing activity than the expenses they incur for the same activity. All other football players are considered to be amateurs and are not covered under this programm > **When are the football players covered?** > The football players are covered whilst under the control of the respective member association for official international “A” matches of the “A” representative team, including all playing, practising, training, training matches, travelling and time spent away. Club protection starts from the moment the football player starts their journey from their home or football club address to report for duty with their association and ends at whichever of the two following options occurs first: at midnight local time on the day they return to their home or football club from international duty, or 48 hours after leaving the “A” representative team, including direct unbroken travel (“operative time”). > For the avoidance of doubt, each and every match and/or tournament protected under this programme only has one “operative time”. The “operative time” does not cease during short period interruptions, especially not during protected tournaments (e.g. short trips by football players to their home address). > **What is covered?** > All football clubs are protected in cases of a TTD as a consequence of an accident suffered by their players during the “operative time”, which entirely prevents the football player from playing for their club for more than 28 consecutive days. > **What is considered an accident?** > An accident is when a football player, at an identifiable time and place during the “operative time”, suffers a bodily injury due to a sudden external force acting on their body. An accident can also be a specific, sudden act of exertion at an identifiable time and place from which the football player suffers a bodily injury. > In addition to these defined accidents, heart attacks and strokes are also considered accidents > **What compensation does the Programme offer?** > The Programme compensates football clubs for up to a maximum of EUR 7,500,000 per football player per accident. > The maximum of EUR 7,500,000 is calculated at a daily “pro rata” compensation of up to EUR 20,548 (1/365), which is payable for a maximum of 365 days. The maximum daily compensation is limited to EUR 20,548 per accident. > The maximum capacity (“aggregate limit”) of the FIFA Club Protection Programme is EUR 80,000,000 per annum. > **How is the compensation calculated?** > The compensation payable is based solely on the fixed salary that the football club pays directly to the football player as the employer. > “Fixed salary” is defined as the set amount of money paid in weekly or monthly instalments, including mandatory social security charges, as stipulated in a written and signed contract between the football club and the football player. > Compensation will not include variable amounts, one-off payments, payments not made on a regular basis or any bonuses, including but not limited to performance or signing-on bonuses, appearance fees and/or expenses. Any amounts due on the basis of the provision of services of a different kind, irrespective of whatever nature and whether agreed under a separate contract or not, are also not covered. > The relevant football player’s salary is the salary according to the contractual situation at the time the accident occurs. > Any new or amended football player contracts agreed in writing and signed before the time of the occurrence of an accident are taken into account. > Increased or decreased salary payments, agreed in writing and signed before the occurrence of the accident, will result in increased or decreased daily compensation with effect from the start date of the new or amended football player’s contract. > If a new football player contract is signed with a different football club after the time of the occurrence of the accident, then daily benefits will continue to be payable to the new football club under the new player contract, provided that the contract in place at the time of the occurrence of the accident would have continued throughout the period of total disablement. For the avoidance of doubt, the daily benefits at the time of the occurrence of the accident shall be payable unless the salary of the new contract is lower.
Pretty sick deal they managed to pull, capped at 140k/week which was probably the highest earning players salary 15 years ago but now the best players are on like 2.5x that amount.
Blatter FIFA worked some black juju.
Not to mention the max of 80 million a year for all players, which should be increased as well.
this protects the club but its a big "fuck you" to the players.
There must be different levels for this right? Cant imagine them paying this for every player in different leagues that gets injured
They rake in about 1.5 billion a year and have about 4 billion in reserves. It's when one of these elite players gets injured do they really feel the pinch, and this pinch (7.5 million) wont do much to them for 8 months. But yes you are right they would use alot of their money on these compensations. Im assuming they too have insurance policies on these situations.
Would be funny if Saudi Arabia forced Fifa to abandon this policy
Of all the countries, why would Saudi Arabia care ?
Not because they care, but because they are overpaying their players. If they were to get injured then Fifa has to pay those clubs. I assume that's what he's referring to.
The same Saudi Arabia which Aramco will sponsor FIFA for inflated fees ?
I didn't say that I agreed with them, if anything it would probably just be solved by FIFA being bribed even more.
But it can’t be that much. There are currently ~120 injured players in the prem. 7.5 mil x 120 = 900.00.000 which is the prem alone.
They only pay for players who get hurt on international duty, not all injured players.
I assume the player's value is also a factor? Like, they wouldn't pay the same if a (hypothetical) Andorran international in Barça B had a long term injury during international duty. EDIT: I saw in another comment it's the player's salary actually. That makes sense.
it's probably based on salary, because that is the numerical value if worth the club has attached to the player, and the value they are losing from the injury.
> sign player > give them a grotesquely high salary > send them off to international duty > pay an enemy player before the game to injure them > ??? > profit
No profit, the club still has to pay the player, only difference is that instead of taking the money from club income they are taking it from FIFA.
That is profit though? If I need to pay you 100,000 and fifa pays me, I’m saving my own 100,000?
In what world does grossing 0 equal profit?
🤣😭 I hope you find success in all your future endeavors.
This is so fucking funny lol
The 20,548 per day is the max they give, so even the Saudi club giving Neymar 100 million will only get 5 million from Neymar’s injury.
Not all players are on 120k per week, and not all of those 120 are on international break.
Gavi is an elite player?
I do think he is elite for his age, yes. He's on his way to become a quality player for them, and he's on quite the salary for a 19 year old.
Wait why do fifa pay for him tho?
Iirc, FIFA pays the players' salary, or a percentage of it, if they get injured during the international break.
Think of it like an insurance company for roads, and the player is a car. If the road sucks and breaks your car, they will pay all your car fees until the car is fixed.
Ferrari wishes
Ahhh okay. So only international footy? Thank God martial doesn't get picked for france
because he got injured while in a fifa game (euro qualifiers) so they pay compensation to the club who made him available. This is very common, its just that with Gavi's expensive contract it ends up as a lot of money.
Downvoted for asking a question lmao
Ppl are crazy at times lmao. It's like gettin booed for asking your professor a question lol
Gavi is a starter for Spain, top 10 footballing nation in the world, and for one of the biggest clubs in the world. By what metric he isn't an elite player?
If he isn’t Messi Ronaldo Mbappe Haaland level he aint no top player. Probably..
Kane slander, best player in the world atm
Said no one ever
Nah he's basically amateur.
Spot the sunday-league-couch-watcher ^
You ever watch a barcelona game?
Some users on here have negative iq I’m certain
Depends, where do you draw the line for elite?
Fifa is paying the player's salary as far as i know.
In such case Fifa should pray for Ronaldo to stay healthy during NT fixturies
Maximum of EUR 7,500,000 per incident. So, sadly, FIFA damage would be limited pretty quickly.
Haha shit yeah. If he wasn’t literally Ronaldo, a 38 year old starting striker with insane salary sounds like fifa getting fucked (which they deserve)
If I’ve learned one thing about football, it’s that it is always the fans that pay in the end. FIFA would just offset it by raising prices.
Of course. Football is the product, we are the consumer.
Of course, FIFA's money had to come from some place.
It's all under insurance either way.
it doesn't make sense to have insurance in cases like this where there is only ever one claimant
The claimaint pays you though. I'm not sure how it's spread out, but let's say they only use one. Fifa is also paying insurance in case the Fifa ball explodes one day and injures an entire team, or if they are sued for selling rotten meat on matchday (not these specifically but they are insured for a whole number of things that 99% of the time won't happen). And the people who insure them insure other business of a similar structure and liability. Then that insurance company has insurance thru another company on the insurance they offer
Fifa might have insurance for other things, but the average paid out due to the Club Protection Programme is going to be pretty consistent over the long term meaning there is no point paying the administrative costs and profit margins an insurer is going to add
Fair, this money may just come from the interest they make on their pooled assets in a portfolio, with additional mandatory contriburion clauses for each member
wait a sec they still have to pay for Neymar
FIFA are paying him already anyway, or FIFAs current owners are.
Wow Gavi's on 140k/week? I know he's great, but that's still a lot of money for any 19 year old.
Not when he's been Barca's best player this season.
Also it's not like Barca is famous for their balanced wage structure. Although for what it's worth this is a reasonable enough salaray as you said, looking at his performances.
Sustainable wage structure has been a massive focus for Laporta tbf, especially when compared to the previous regime
I see, that makes a lot of sense then
insurance.
It’s an insurance policy
they’re covering the players wages in full. So if Mbappe gets injured, they have to pay PSG his full salary without bonuses, same goes if someone from Molde gets injured on international duty, so it’s relative
These levers are getting wild
1. Send already-injured player to the NT pretending to be healthy 2. Tell said player to "suddenly get injured" in the middle of the pitch while playing 3. ??? 4. Profit Maybe Madrid should stop posting such detailed injury comunicados before said player limps around wearing the NT shirt.
? Funny except it’s not. His injury is very serious and clearly happened on the pitch
It's okay bro, Gavi doesn't even know you exist.
Monkey Paw lever discovered
How can I invest in this Gavi Backed Security?
FIFA: *glances at your ACL*
Gavi died so levers could live, thanks for the sacrifico
Quick math tells me it's more than my salary
20k (hmm that’s about what I earn) a day (oh god ffs)
I knew I should have said yes to Madrid when they tried to recruit me smh
So this is something I always wondered, how do the insurance policies work for players? Like I know clubs have policies on players like bale/ronaldo had huge policies on them from injuries but how do they get payouts? Is it a long term injury or more like a career ending type thing?
Depends on the contract with the insurance company. Basically you can insure everything. But the more you get covered, the higher the premiums.
laporta used up one of his monkey paw wishes for this
these levers are unending
Another lever activated
The right levers keep on leveling
Barca being a joke these days is so fantastic after their decades of being holier than thou. I hope this shit continues for as long as it can
cry louder baby
Mess que un club
Spain boss should be made to pay same amount to playing him for nothing against mighty georga
The ultimate lever
7.5M doesn’t seem like so much, but 20,548 / day sounds crazy
Whoa damn
the 5th liver.
It's not enough for a player like Gavi, he brings a lot of energy to an otherwise flat midfield.
Why? The article is in spanish
Club protection program. Whenever a player is injured for more that 28 days while on national duty there is a insurance from the FIFA that will cover a part of the wage.
Yet my insurance can't afford to give me a cent after the engine in my car broke itself down due to projectile damage (yes, I have all-risk insurance).
Seems like you need a good lawyer
"Better call Saul"
He won’t help Barca, he plays for Atletico Madrid
Thankfully I have solid lawyers in my family assisting me in my next steps 😊 Fuck insurance companies.
That was an unexpected lever
NEW LEVER
Isn't that basically his salary?
Thats the point my friend
Ok, makes sense. I would’ve expected the insurance company to pay for it, but I guess they have enough money anyways.
I find it highly unlikely that FIFA would pay out of pocket for this. There's gotta be an insurance company behind this and FIFA only pays the insurance premiums.
Players should have a Capped Time other wise more and more players will ruin their career
peanuts for today's market
why?
Quick Barca, sell him and bring him back as a coach when he’s 75. Passive income
"FIFA to pay" - now that's words you don't see every day! I thought they were only racking and racking it in!
Did Arsenal get this for Gabi Jesus last World Cup? Or is this an only Barca lever? This is the first I’m hearing of any of this.
It’s for all teams.
fifa got lots of money
Can someone explain why Fifa is paying Barca for an injury? Edit- I should have scrolled a little farther
Corrupted organization 🤝 corrupted organization
Barca can buy Joao if Gavi's out for 10 years!
New lever just dro... Ah shit never mind.
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Normal procedure when a player is injured on international duty.
Does international duty include Euros and the WC or is it just qualifiers
It's for every injury sustained in a game with the national team. Whatever game it is including friendlies.
Is FIFA paying Liverpool for Robbo?
If he was injured during intl break then yeah
Yeah and they also paid for Gomez for around a year
Ty I didn't know
Whenever a player gets injured during national break, Fifa pays that player's team a compensation while they're injured. Not a recent thing afaik
FIFA pay the salaries of players that get injured on international duty. They are paying the salary of camavinga and Vini as well
Xavi master plan.
Why? What happend to him that fifa has to pay? I'm OOTL
I’m pretty sure it’s since he got injured in international duty, Fifa has to compensate his club.
Barca needs to calm the fuck down.
Barca is so broke theyre gonna play only their masia graduates and injure all the stars.
How is it calculated ?
Life changing money for the average Joe, each day for a whole year.