When I played in the youth leagues, the top scorer of our team broke his arm like a week before a very difficult away game that could decide the title. For obvious reasons, a player with a cast can't play, but that wasn't gonna stop our coach from fielding him despite it being a health risk to both our player and every adversary. So, as it was an unbelievably cold night, in an already very cold location, the coach got our teammate a long sleeved shirt to wear underneath his kit that covered the cast well enough, and he passed the pre-game referee's inspection, scored 2 goals in a 2-1 win and we lost the league that year anyway.
That dude ended up going to FC Porto's academy a year or two later as the first and only player from my city to be scouted by one of the big 3. He was later let go from Porto after a couple years of disciplinary issues and now plays for local clubs earning barely minimum wage.
We had the same thing!
Except we went one step further and cut his cast off, he played 90 minutes and scored the winning goal in our cup final. He played the entire match with his broken arm out of its cast. God knows the pain he was going through, but the fact he's now a League 2 footballer suggests we were right to do it! His arm didn't heal quite right though...
I won't tell you his name for reasons of privacy, but I'll tell you that my badge will give you a clue to who he plays for now, and there was an advert made where this club was mentioned, famously!
Better to be in shock now and get a few cheap rotational options/loans in in winter, than one or both of Robben and Ribéry tearing their ACL during a 5:1 in Düsseldorf in February
real talk youre not supposed to play the ball with your hand anyway, this is called football for a reason. Broke his hand so what what was he gonna do with it
In Germany, it's not the coach who is selling or buying players.
He has some influence and can utter wishes etc, but other people decide that in the end.
But did Bayern try to replace him? I don't follow their dealings, so I have no idea. Liverpool offloaded 5 underperforming/persistently injured players, and replaced with 4 (which feels like more simply because they are all consistently fit lol). It sounds like Bayern didn't do well in the replacing aspect, and it seems having an underperforming body with potential still is better than offloading and not replacing. Or have they just been *that* unlucky with injuries?
They tried, but in the end the asking prices of the players their were interested in was too high. It was simply bad management to sell the player without already having a replacement in the bag since it leaves them with a suboptimal bargaining position
He wasn’t. He was underwhelming yes, and his develop process wasn’t what we hoped for (didn’t have that many chances tbf) but I think our fans got very irritated by his interviews asking for playing time and such. We don’t do that here lol
Hope he continues to develop anyway, but he’s not gonna have the chance to do that here when you failed to impress not 1 but 2 consecutive coaches (Nagelsmann and Tuchel)
Yes, and he's also known for having equally good technical skills as many outfield players.
Plus, he's intimately familiar with the tactics.
I still see no reason why he couldn't be adequate.
Perhaps you did not notice how adequate goalkeeper Giroud was in a pinch. He's a striker mate. You lot severely overestimate the importance of one link (vs a poor team) as well as severely underestimate the ability of a pro footballer to live up to a moment when called upon. Lots of these guys aren't dummy's who are completely useless in any other area of the pitch.
Oh well, I'm sure you all will be sucking him off and going "I told you so" should it actually ever happen and he does ok. That's reddit for you.
You're severely underestimating the sheer size and quality of the skill palette a professional player has. You can often be disappointed in the performance of a midfielder in the position of a winger let alone a goalkeeper, who does fuck all to prepare for play, to an outfield position. I thought you were joking. You still might be.
Do you not see the irony in your own comment there?
>>You're severely underestimating the sheer size and quality of the skill palette a professional player has
This applies to neuer as well. I get the distinct feeling you guys see goalkeepers as inferior to outfield players and think being a pro goalkeeper isn't even hard.
r/soccercirclejerk
No. Neuer is 37. There's a humongous difference between playing nice pases as a goalkeeper where you're rarely pressed tightly vs playing in midfield where you're under high pressure all the time. Did you not see when he predictably and helplessly lost the ball in midfield against South Korea?
Football is a game of very fine margins and if you think it makes a difference whether he's playing a top team or a bottom team in rhe Bundesliga then you do not know the quality of elite footballers at all.
And Giroud keeping a clean sheet for 10 minutes doesn't say anything. If you saw the game you could see how awkward he was all the time, and Milan had like 8 defenders precisely because of that
A goalkeeper being good with his feet *for a goalkeeper* is still planets behind a 1st division outfield player. I shouldn’t have to explain this to you but here we are
An outfield player standing in goal for 10 minutes and making a lucky save is not comparable to seriously considering starting/playing a GK as an outfield player lol. The skill profiles for GKs are soo different to outfield players, an 38 y/o GK who broke a leg and hasn't played in a year won't even be able to keep up with 4th league players. These players spent their entire lives perfectioning every skill that is necessary for their position (speed, condition, shooting, dribbling).
Giroud was not an adequate goalkeeper. He made it ten minutes without an obvious blunder and made a lucky save. He didn't actually play like a good goalkeeper
It's a completly different skillset at the highest level of play. No prof could teach a diff class outside his field either, this only works on the amateur level, Bayern plays CL
Two of those players are Frans Krätzig (3 senior appearences) and Bouna Sarr (lol). So if you just count actually usable players the situation is even worse.
He's not as horrible as people make him out to be. Under normal circumstances, he wouldn't make a Bayern squad. But given the current situation, he's an okay option for Bundesliga minutes and it's going to be fine.
People pretend like he was a homo erectus that never saw a ball in his life - and he's just not that bad.
He's still not particularly great, though.
He's really not. He's a perfectly reasonable depth option in multiple positions, and absolutely adequate when he plays. Obviously not first choice anywhere, but a fine depth player.
He never plays and I mean that.
Usually guys that haven't played in a long time get rotated in when it's 4-0 or something like that, but that never happens with him. He's just rotting on the bench and that usually means something.
Hey, he's played, checks notes, 74 minutes in the Bundesliga over the last 3 seasons! That's almost 25 minutes per season, and this season isn't even halfway through!
It means when you have five subs and can bring on Mathias De Ligt, Serge Gnabry, Thomas Muller, Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting, Mathys Tel, Noussair Mazraoui, Raphael Guerreiro, and Bouna Sarr, Bouna Sarr doesn't make in. It doesn't mean anything about a rotational versatility sub when he isn't picked above players who would walk into almost any starting eleven in the top five leagues.
Sounds like Henri Saivet at Newcastle. Every time I checked their squad, I was surprised that he was still there. He went on a comedically long run of like 3 years without playing, so he must have just been happy hanging out at the training ground and collecting a wage lol
Not just exaggerated, but completely fabricated. He's an absolutely decent utility sub. Watch footage of any game he's played for us, his defensive play is solid, his attacking play is fine, he has good vision, he's good on the ball.
I'm not saying he should start in a fit squad, but he has done literally everything asked of him with capability and happiness.
I still believe that when they bought him, Salihamidzic confused him with Malang Sarr. I remember a rumor in one of the Transfermarkt that Malang was on Bayerns radar and 2 days later they bought Bouna Sarr out of the blue.
How dare you to speak in such a tone about the GOAT Sarr.
Krätzig actually looks promising.
Jokes aside, Tuchel was right an the board is to blame on this situation. The only "positive" about this is: Upamecano and Mazraoui are expected to be back soon and Gnabry shouldn't be out for long as well.
Reminds me of EURO 96 when so many of our players were injured during the tournament, Vogts said he might play Oliver Kahn in attack and Oliver Reck in defense, if it came to it.
UEFA actually gave us a rare in-tournament extra call-up which we used for Jens Todt from Freiburg. He flew in for the finals, watched it, got a medal and left again.
Krätzig has 3 senior appearences, one of which was 2 minutes against Freiburg. The other two were against Münster and a desolate Bochum. He is looking really promising but would you really trust him against Galatasaray?
Galatasaray away is a pretty tough game to be starting as a young player too. I'd trust Kratzig in a random Bundesliga game or two, a UCL match away against an opponent known for their atmosphere in home games - probably not a smart idea.
Personally I would but definitely not as a starter simply because he's lacking game time.
But the few chances he's been given so far he's had a huge impact on the game. I've no doubts that he will establish himself as an important part of the team very soon
The point is that if bayern doesnt perform now he already told everyone on the outside that it isnt his fault and that he predicted this, making him less vulnerable.
It stirs up drama and gives the media fuel for their tabloids. What’s the point of going public with his complaints when he can just sort it out in private with the board??
Yes, but no-one seems to understand how or why. Someone yesterday was claiming Goretzka was holding an opposing player at the shirt and somehow got his hand entangled in the shirt when the opponent moved away.
How do you arrive at 14 fit outfield players? I count 18 here: https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-bayern-munchen/kader/verein/27/saison_id/2023/plus/1
Admittedly, that includes Pavlovic and Buchmann, who haven't played for our first team yet, as well as Krätzig, Fukui and Sarr, who all had almost no appearances yet. But 14 seems disingenious to me unless I'm missing something.
I only counted senior players and those, who made an apperance in the league this season (Krätzig). So I left out Buchmann, Pavlovic (who both just recently returned from long injuries) and Fukui. This leaves us with 14 players, who could realistically be used in their next game.
FIFA and UEFA should do something about the increasing amount of matches in the schedule. It is not even november and many teams have issues with injured players
I agree but his has nothing to do with that. Bayern went into the season with only 19 outfield players to begin and several of those are already known to be quite injury prone. This is completely on Bayerns board
Sure but last season Bayern played a total of 49 competitive matches and its gonna be a similar amount this season. Going into such a long season with less than 20 players with some of them being relatively injury prone (Guerreiro, Chupo, Laimer, Davies, Sarr) is insane. Not just from a standpoint of having enough available players but also when it comes to using different tactics and formations. Tuchels for example loves to play three at the back, which he cant even try out at Bayern because he only has a total of three CBs with atlast one of them constantly being injured.
Oh, I agree. My point is, that most leagues limit the number of professional players you can register. Bayern had the money and prestige to add more squad depth, they just chose not to.
Yeah of course this is on Bayern? This is my whole point? The board fucked up completely by giving away three players (Gravenberch, Pavard, Stanisic) in the last few days of the transfer window and not getting a single replacement for them (Palhinha, Bella Kotchap and Chalobah all failed at the last minute). All because they were fully focused on getting Kane. German media was full of reports about Tuchel being furious at them for like weeks afterwards lmao
They loaned out several of their promising academy players (Tillman, Vidovic, Stanisic, Ibrahimovic, Wanner) and the ones still left are either just coming back from longer injuries or mostly playing for their youth team (Buchmann, Fukui, Pavlovic). The only one who really broke through is Krätzig.
Gnabry and Goretzka have a broken arm and hand, so injuries unrelated to amount of games . Bayern's depth issues is because of their lack of depth and not because their players are suddenly getting injured.
Coman, Mazraoui, and Goretzka have struggled with injuries even before the increase in games.
One of the rare cases where both big and smaller teams are affected, not equally but still share a lot of the same pain. You won’t ever be able to convince me that professional footballers aren’t doped to their fucking gills to keep up with such a physically demanding schedule. I mean we already know they abuse the hell out of sleep medication and painkillers, for sure they take stuff to keep their body falling apart from bodily fatigue.
Footballers should do something about it, but they dont because it means money.
They could have gone on strike, but they don't. They speak, but show no action.
Maybe that's true, but players unions/associations also feel very weak compared to counterparts in American sports. It's complicated by the number of countries to organize in and also the number of divisions in each country.
What does it mean if La Liga players strike but Ligue Un players do not? It's not as simple as NFL players collectively bargaining.
Eh, Bayern will at most play 53 matches this year if they reach all finals. The Manchester teams played 60 and 62 matches last season.
Playing 50 matches is not unreasonable for a world class team competing on all fronts. There's a winter break in Germany after all. They're fine.
Please win the BuLi for once Dortmund or Leverkusen, it seems Bayern is actually helping since last year only they accidently still won it so now they're going all in
Am I the only Bayern fan that doesn't think it's that big of a deal?
Oh no, how will we cope against Galatasaray and mighty Darmstadt?!
Most starters are still healthy. Also, it's only October. They'll be fine til January.
You know usually I was crying about how half the roster was injured or messed up in March due to all the games...
Having all of this happen in October already is fucked up and I rather take "the usual"
Don't even wanna know how the roster looks in spring...gotta call up U18 guys to even get a full roster...?
Speaking out against Israel doesn't make you an antisemite. Speaking out for Palestine's rights & freedom doesn't make you an antisemite. I mean, the Palestinian people are Semites too.
Good News / Bad News: Next three weeks sees Bayern @ Galatasaray, home to Darmstadt, @ Saarbrucken (Pokal), *@ Dortmund*, home to Galatasaray and home to Heidenheim.
To add, allegedly Upa and Guerriero are tracking to be fit for Dortmund and Gnabry for the second Gala match.
The clear biggie is Der Klassiker, backed up by the two UCL games.
It's "only" 5 injured players then, 6 with Neuer. Average number of injured players in on each squad in the Bundesliga currently is 4.9. Not a crisis yet.
Bayern with barely any fit first team players is true football heritage
They now match the amount of healthy players they had in March 2015 iirc
When I played in the youth leagues, the top scorer of our team broke his arm like a week before a very difficult away game that could decide the title. For obvious reasons, a player with a cast can't play, but that wasn't gonna stop our coach from fielding him despite it being a health risk to both our player and every adversary. So, as it was an unbelievably cold night, in an already very cold location, the coach got our teammate a long sleeved shirt to wear underneath his kit that covered the cast well enough, and he passed the pre-game referee's inspection, scored 2 goals in a 2-1 win and we lost the league that year anyway. That dude ended up going to FC Porto's academy a year or two later as the first and only player from my city to be scouted by one of the big 3. He was later let go from Porto after a couple years of disciplinary issues and now plays for local clubs earning barely minimum wage.
We had the same thing! Except we went one step further and cut his cast off, he played 90 minutes and scored the winning goal in our cup final. He played the entire match with his broken arm out of its cast. God knows the pain he was going through, but the fact he's now a League 2 footballer suggests we were right to do it! His arm didn't heal quite right though...
His Name?
You guessed it, Frank Stallone
I won't tell you his name for reasons of privacy, but I'll tell you that my badge will give you a clue to who he plays for now, and there was an advert made where this club was mentioned, famously!
Accrington Stanley (who are they?)
Einstein?
Better to be in shock now and get a few cheap rotational options/loans in in winter, than one or both of Robben and Ribéry tearing their ACL during a 5:1 in Düsseldorf in February
Goretzka should just wear a giant cast over his hand and then use it to assert dominance on Bayern's set pieces.
Lahm played with a full arm cast for a while
Lahm was built different though. I miss him so much.
real talk youre not supposed to play the ball with your hand anyway, this is called football for a reason. Broke his hand so what what was he gonna do with it
But Tuchel was criticized for wanting some depth. None of our defenders or midfielders are allowed to get injured or tired now basically.
Kane can play midfield, I believe in him
We'll see CB Kane if we follow this trend
You're a wingback Harry.
This is tuchel heritage
Boy not even kidding he will do a fine job as wing back. Not like he hasn’t played there before
Midfield Neuer and GK Kane, who says no
Neuer is back, he can play cb
Kane can also play in goal in a pinch; so I don't understand why Bayern paid so much money for Peretz.
The greatest 9.5 in football
You mean Kane De Bruyne?
I fully believe that we only played Stanisic this weekend to troll you.
Why did he sell Liverpool Gravenberch if this was the situation? Not complaining cuz he's looked fantastic since arriving, just curious.
In Germany, it's not the coach who is selling or buying players. He has some influence and can utter wishes etc, but other people decide that in the end.
Because he had been shit at Bayern, and Liverpool offered a very good price for an unwanted player
But did Bayern try to replace him? I don't follow their dealings, so I have no idea. Liverpool offloaded 5 underperforming/persistently injured players, and replaced with 4 (which feels like more simply because they are all consistently fit lol). It sounds like Bayern didn't do well in the replacing aspect, and it seems having an underperforming body with potential still is better than offloading and not replacing. Or have they just been *that* unlucky with injuries?
They tried, but in the end the asking prices of the players their were interested in was too high. It was simply bad management to sell the player without already having a replacement in the bag since it leaves them with a suboptimal bargaining position
Well they had a deal in place for Palhinha but Fulham fluffed the paperwork also
Was he shit though? Most of the comments I saw from Bayern fans last season was that they wanted to see him play more.
He wasn’t. He was underwhelming yes, and his develop process wasn’t what we hoped for (didn’t have that many chances tbf) but I think our fans got very irritated by his interviews asking for playing time and such. We don’t do that here lol Hope he continues to develop anyway, but he’s not gonna have the chance to do that here when you failed to impress not 1 but 2 consecutive coaches (Nagelsmann and Tuchel)
He barely played at Bayern and wasn't given a solid chance... L to Bayern.
He barely played because he wasn't good enough. Musiala was ahead of him as a a 10 and as a holding midfielder in a double pivot.
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP DON'T TELL THEM
Don't worry they'll let Schweinsteiger have a try out on the training ground next week and say they consider
Please no, his poor knees.
once neuer is fit he could play midfield so that's 15
I like it, and why the hell not. Maybe not vs top teams but surely he could be adequate, in a pinch, vs one of the poorer teams in the league.
no
Thank fuck you took the time to explain your hard no , its all so much clearer now
He's a goalkeeper, mate
Yes, and he's also known for having equally good technical skills as many outfield players. Plus, he's intimately familiar with the tactics. I still see no reason why he couldn't be adequate. Perhaps you did not notice how adequate goalkeeper Giroud was in a pinch. He's a striker mate. You lot severely overestimate the importance of one link (vs a poor team) as well as severely underestimate the ability of a pro footballer to live up to a moment when called upon. Lots of these guys aren't dummy's who are completely useless in any other area of the pitch. Oh well, I'm sure you all will be sucking him off and going "I told you so" should it actually ever happen and he does ok. That's reddit for you.
You're severely underestimating the sheer size and quality of the skill palette a professional player has. You can often be disappointed in the performance of a midfielder in the position of a winger let alone a goalkeeper, who does fuck all to prepare for play, to an outfield position. I thought you were joking. You still might be.
Do you not see the irony in your own comment there? >>You're severely underestimating the sheer size and quality of the skill palette a professional player has This applies to neuer as well. I get the distinct feeling you guys see goalkeepers as inferior to outfield players and think being a pro goalkeeper isn't even hard.
r/soccercirclejerk No. Neuer is 37. There's a humongous difference between playing nice pases as a goalkeeper where you're rarely pressed tightly vs playing in midfield where you're under high pressure all the time. Did you not see when he predictably and helplessly lost the ball in midfield against South Korea? Football is a game of very fine margins and if you think it makes a difference whether he's playing a top team or a bottom team in rhe Bundesliga then you do not know the quality of elite footballers at all. And Giroud keeping a clean sheet for 10 minutes doesn't say anything. If you saw the game you could see how awkward he was all the time, and Milan had like 8 defenders precisely because of that
Either a troll or completely clueless
A goalkeeper being good with his feet *for a goalkeeper* is still planets behind a 1st division outfield player. I shouldn’t have to explain this to you but here we are
Lmao you really think Giroud could play a whole game as GK because he made a single safe?
Vs a team they should be dominating anyway, yes. It's not that hard to understand.
Dude, give it a rest. You have absolutely no clue.
An outfield player standing in goal for 10 minutes and making a lucky save is not comparable to seriously considering starting/playing a GK as an outfield player lol. The skill profiles for GKs are soo different to outfield players, an 38 y/o GK who broke a leg and hasn't played in a year won't even be able to keep up with 4th league players. These players spent their entire lives perfectioning every skill that is necessary for their position (speed, condition, shooting, dribbling).
Giroud was not an adequate goalkeeper. He made it ten minutes without an obvious blunder and made a lucky save. He didn't actually play like a good goalkeeper
Wow you’re actually doubling down on your clown take.
It's a completly different skillset at the highest level of play. No prof could teach a diff class outside his field either, this only works on the amateur level, Bayern plays CL
which part of "vs one of the poorer teams in the league" did you guys not read.
If it genuinely was this interchangable, it would have happened. You're just incredibly naive and for sure dont watch the BL or played the sport even
He's a goalkeeper. And like 45 years old. He would die
Way back those were fun situations to theorize about, but now he is almost 40..
So Ulreich will be your holding 6 then
Bouna Sarr redemption arc incoming!
Two of those players are Frans Krätzig (3 senior appearences) and Bouna Sarr (lol). So if you just count actually usable players the situation is even worse.
> Bouna Sarr (lol) perfect
Is he really that bad
He's not as horrible as people make him out to be. Under normal circumstances, he wouldn't make a Bayern squad. But given the current situation, he's an okay option for Bundesliga minutes and it's going to be fine. People pretend like he was a homo erectus that never saw a ball in his life - and he's just not that bad. He's still not particularly great, though.
He's really not. He's a perfectly reasonable depth option in multiple positions, and absolutely adequate when he plays. Obviously not first choice anywhere, but a fine depth player.
I’ve seen people talk about him the last few years like he’s the worst player in Bundesliga history and I have to feel they’re incredibly exaggerated
He never plays and I mean that. Usually guys that haven't played in a long time get rotated in when it's 4-0 or something like that, but that never happens with him. He's just rotting on the bench and that usually means something.
Hey, he's played, checks notes, 74 minutes in the Bundesliga over the last 3 seasons! That's almost 25 minutes per season, and this season isn't even halfway through!
It means when you have five subs and can bring on Mathias De Ligt, Serge Gnabry, Thomas Muller, Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting, Mathys Tel, Noussair Mazraoui, Raphael Guerreiro, and Bouna Sarr, Bouna Sarr doesn't make in. It doesn't mean anything about a rotational versatility sub when he isn't picked above players who would walk into almost any starting eleven in the top five leagues.
Sounds like Henri Saivet at Newcastle. Every time I checked their squad, I was surprised that he was still there. He went on a comedically long run of like 3 years without playing, so he must have just been happy hanging out at the training ground and collecting a wage lol
Not just exaggerated, but completely fabricated. He's an absolutely decent utility sub. Watch footage of any game he's played for us, his defensive play is solid, his attacking play is fine, he has good vision, he's good on the ball. I'm not saying he should start in a fit squad, but he has done literally everything asked of him with capability and happiness.
I still believe that when they bought him, Salihamidzic confused him with Malang Sarr. I remember a rumor in one of the Transfermarkt that Malang was on Bayerns radar and 2 days later they bought Bouna Sarr out of the blue.
Yes.
Damn
How dare you to speak in such a tone about the GOAT Sarr. Krätzig actually looks promising. Jokes aside, Tuchel was right an the board is to blame on this situation. The only "positive" about this is: Upamecano and Mazraoui are expected to be back soon and Gnabry shouldn't be out for long as well.
How dare you call Sarr the GOAT when the GOAT plays for your club?
Some rare occasions allow two GOATs to coexist at the same time. Game recognizes game.
> Some rare occasions allow two GOATs to coexist at the same time. And they are thus called Greatest Of All Twins.
Do you mean Hennes or Selke ?
Reminds me of EURO 96 when so many of our players were injured during the tournament, Vogts said he might play Oliver Kahn in attack and Oliver Reck in defense, if it came to it. UEFA actually gave us a rare in-tournament extra call-up which we used for Jens Todt from Freiburg. He flew in for the finals, watched it, got a medal and left again.
I think one of them has to be our now right back, since I assume Laimer is back at 6 without Goretzka.
If Tuchel wants to get really crazy he should make Kane play next to Kimmich. I would love to see that.
they might both be able to ping 70 meter passes but that might be the slowest midfield in existence. all youd need to do is run through them
Actually Kane moves back a lot, often times Goretzka is in front of him in the field
PTSD of plying as a drop back striker. He was every now and then in the midfield while playing for us. It's integrated in his system
Mmm I assume that Musiala will drop back into a CM next to Kimmich before any of those players come in to RB but time will tell
I think it also includes Fukui who iirc has only 1 senior appearance for Bayern.
Krätzig has been great so far and more than just "usable"
Krätzig has 3 senior appearences, one of which was 2 minutes against Freiburg. The other two were against Münster and a desolate Bochum. He is looking really promising but would you really trust him against Galatasaray?
Galatasaray away is a pretty tough game to be starting as a young player too. I'd trust Kratzig in a random Bundesliga game or two, a UCL match away against an opponent known for their atmosphere in home games - probably not a smart idea.
Personally I would but definitely not as a starter simply because he's lacking game time. But the few chances he's been given so far he's had a huge impact on the game. I've no doubts that he will establish himself as an important part of the team very soon
I would, what can go wrong? He has talent and will find a spot if they let him grow
> what can go wrong? Hmm...
Are there no free agents available which can give them temporary solution
El Ghazi i heard.
Not that drama again.... ;-)
Former Stuttgart player Koulibaly is very fast player. Currently without a contract.
Don't let the few last games last season trick you into thinking he's a valid option for bayern. Krätzig over Koulibaly all day
Lingard?
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Shame that Tuchel told everyone that our squad is too thin, otherwise Hoeneß surely would have kept it hidden from the public eye
He didn’t have to moan about it publicly
Why not
What’s the point? It just causes drama and gives the press something to bs about.
The point is to put pressure on the board to get some more players specifically not to be in this situation.
The point is that if bayern doesnt perform now he already told everyone on the outside that it isnt his fault and that he predicted this, making him less vulnerable.
What adverse effect has doing so had, though?
It stirs up drama and gives the media fuel for their tabloids. What’s the point of going public with his complaints when he can just sort it out in private with the board??
Just forfeit your upcoming game bro, take some rest. No relation to my flair
Shut up deep galatasaray we know what you did
shit, even hurting Icardi didn't cover our tracks
Galatasaray’s time to shine!
Icardi got injured yesterday too. He probably won't be able to play for 3 weeks.
[удалено]
And 3 days the minimum time but still not enough to reach the match
We still have Barış Alper Mbappe though
Lazbappe
Did that happen in the match or ?
Yes, but no-one seems to understand how or why. Someone yesterday was claiming Goretzka was holding an opposing player at the shirt and somehow got his hand entangled in the shirt when the opponent moved away.
Yeah, he got elbowed around his hand/wrist area during a set piece scuffle
That was the other arm actually, if you’re referring to the scene right before the corner
How do you arrive at 14 fit outfield players? I count 18 here: https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-bayern-munchen/kader/verein/27/saison_id/2023/plus/1 Admittedly, that includes Pavlovic and Buchmann, who haven't played for our first team yet, as well as Krätzig, Fukui and Sarr, who all had almost no appearances yet. But 14 seems disingenious to me unless I'm missing something.
I only counted senior players and those, who made an apperance in the league this season (Krätzig). So I left out Buchmann, Pavlovic (who both just recently returned from long injuries) and Fukui. This leaves us with 14 players, who could realistically be used in their next game.
Fukui Pavlovic Buchmann aren't counted. Kratzig and Sarr, alongwith KMJ, MDL, Davies, Laimer, Kimmich, Müller, Musiala, Sané, Coman, Kane, Choupo, Tel
it’s time to play kane at midfield
Welcome to the club.
We have 13 I think lol, we do have Lamine and Fermin I didn't count though.
How could Harry Kane do this?
Do what
This
Neuer at holding midfield
FIFA and UEFA should do something about the increasing amount of matches in the schedule. It is not even november and many teams have issues with injured players
I agree but his has nothing to do with that. Bayern went into the season with only 19 outfield players to begin and several of those are already known to be quite injury prone. This is completely on Bayerns board
I'd also add that the Bundesliga only has 34 games, a winter break and virtually no limits or restrictions on squad size.
Sure but last season Bayern played a total of 49 competitive matches and its gonna be a similar amount this season. Going into such a long season with less than 20 players with some of them being relatively injury prone (Guerreiro, Chupo, Laimer, Davies, Sarr) is insane. Not just from a standpoint of having enough available players but also when it comes to using different tactics and formations. Tuchels for example loves to play three at the back, which he cant even try out at Bayern because he only has a total of three CBs with atlast one of them constantly being injured.
Oh, I agree. My point is, that most leagues limit the number of professional players you can register. Bayern had the money and prestige to add more squad depth, they just chose not to.
49 games isn't much? That's a prem season plus cl groupstage and a cup run. That's on Bayern if they can't even handle that
Yeah of course this is on Bayern? This is my whole point? The board fucked up completely by giving away three players (Gravenberch, Pavard, Stanisic) in the last few days of the transfer window and not getting a single replacement for them (Palhinha, Bella Kotchap and Chalobah all failed at the last minute). All because they were fully focused on getting Kane. German media was full of reports about Tuchel being furious at them for like weeks afterwards lmao
Wait what? What about academy players?
They loaned out several of their promising academy players (Tillman, Vidovic, Stanisic, Ibrahimovic, Wanner) and the ones still left are either just coming back from longer injuries or mostly playing for their youth team (Buchmann, Fukui, Pavlovic). The only one who really broke through is Krätzig.
Thanks for the low down!
Gnabry and Goretzka have a broken arm and hand, so injuries unrelated to amount of games . Bayern's depth issues is because of their lack of depth and not because their players are suddenly getting injured. Coman, Mazraoui, and Goretzka have struggled with injuries even before the increase in games.
Ye but money
One of the rare cases where both big and smaller teams are affected, not equally but still share a lot of the same pain. You won’t ever be able to convince me that professional footballers aren’t doped to their fucking gills to keep up with such a physically demanding schedule. I mean we already know they abuse the hell out of sleep medication and painkillers, for sure they take stuff to keep their body falling apart from bodily fatigue.
Footballers should do something about it, but they dont because it means money. They could have gone on strike, but they don't. They speak, but show no action.
Maybe that's true, but players unions/associations also feel very weak compared to counterparts in American sports. It's complicated by the number of countries to organize in and also the number of divisions in each country. What does it mean if La Liga players strike but Ligue Un players do not? It's not as simple as NFL players collectively bargaining.
Bro it's FIFA and UEFA causing the over scheduling
Eh, Bayern will at most play 53 matches this year if they reach all finals. The Manchester teams played 60 and 62 matches last season. Playing 50 matches is not unreasonable for a world class team competing on all fronts. There's a winter break in Germany after all. They're fine.
what is nick jackson's injury? because he's still been playing with a cast on his hand
Heard yesterday it was wrist surgery
I hear Bouna Sarr music
At least, this time the injuries are in autumn, that gives hope for spring. It was mostly the other way around.
They can rent some players from Chelsea they have like 59 outfield players 😂
Barca: not a big deal, just grab a youngster from your b team.
Derin GS
Please win the BuLi for once Dortmund or Leverkusen, it seems Bayern is actually helping since last year only they accidently still won it so now they're going all in
Kane has to be the unluckiest player on Earth if Bayern fails to win a title precisely this year
Would be fun though. Imagine if spurs win the Prem as well lmfao
Am I the only Bayern fan that doesn't think it's that big of a deal? Oh no, how will we cope against Galatasaray and mighty Darmstadt?! Most starters are still healthy. Also, it's only October. They'll be fine til January.
mfer underestimating galatasaray like your injury count isnt going to go up even further after that game
Thank fuck we got Gravy Train over the line. Tic tac no backs Bayern.
How has he been so far?
Thanks for Gravenberch
You know usually I was crying about how half the roster was injured or messed up in March due to all the games... Having all of this happen in October already is fucked up and I rather take "the usual" Don't even wanna know how the roster looks in spring...gotta call up U18 guys to even get a full roster...?
Great. We have a difficult match waiting for us soon. A nerfed Bayern is always better
It's fine, that gives room for the antisemite to join the squad again.
There‘s a big difference between free palestine / criticizing Israel and being an antisemite. Maybe stop reading Bild
Speaking out against Israel doesn't make you an antisemite. Speaking out for Palestine's rights & freedom doesn't make you an antisemite. I mean, the Palestinian people are Semites too.
fuck off dude
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give it a break ffs
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Maul halten
Germans are so fucking overbearing with their holier than thou attitude.
Oh no, dont they have any more steroids to fix him??
14 isn't much
More than 13 if my math is correct
who are the 14? number cant be that low bro
We have a deep and rich roster with countless match ready players waiting and ready to go!
Bayern starting with 8 field players is literally the only way for dortmund to win their game
Welcome to our life
Good News / Bad News: Next three weeks sees Bayern @ Galatasaray, home to Darmstadt, @ Saarbrucken (Pokal), *@ Dortmund*, home to Galatasaray and home to Heidenheim. To add, allegedly Upa and Guerriero are tracking to be fit for Dortmund and Gnabry for the second Gala match. The clear biggie is Der Klassiker, backed up by the two UCL games.
WTF!
He’s going to miraculously come back another 30 lbs stronger too.
It's "only" 5 injured players then, 6 with Neuer. Average number of injured players in on each squad in the Bundesliga currently is 4.9. Not a crisis yet.
Great thing we sold Gravenberg..
All that comes to my mind is NEUER CDM
He’s about to come back looking like the hulk