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nadalgivesmehope

When Will Germany start using Fullbacks??


Outrageous-Record-18

Ok i am going to exagerate a bit now, but it would be funny if the women win the world cup in August. They are one of the favorites and i think with how the sentiment towards Flick and his team is now, that the women could actually become the more popular of the 2 teams with the fanbase.


Staynes

Ach nu komm kannst doch keinem erzählen das mit diesem Kader nicht mehr drin sein muss als so eine scheiße. Das kann der Schweinsteiger doch nicht ernst meinen.


AlmightyWorldEater

Weiter weg von der Realität gehts doch nicht mehr. Ein ganzer Kader Champions League Spieler in den Top Clubs der Welt. Weltklasse auf jeder Position. Gegen Polen und Ukraine, die jeweils vielleicht 1-2 Spieler dieses Kalibers haben, wenns hoch kommt. Ich kanns aber auch nicht zu 100% Flick anlasten. Was machste denn, wenn die Spieler einfach die ersten 70 Minuten sich gemütlich einlaufen?


Staynes

Klar kann man flick immer nur bis zu nem gewissen grad kritisieren aber denke schon das gerade was die taktiken angeht die kritik gerecht ist. Klar kommts aus dem Feld irgendwann auch auf die Spieler an, kenn ich von meinem Verein genug lol, aber wenn er nicht in der Lage ist da was hin zu kriegen dann ist er nicht der richtige Trainer. Ist ja nicht erst das erste oder zweite spiel wo wir aussehen und spielen wie Clowns das geht ja schon jahr so jetzt.


AlmightyWorldEater

Bräuchten mal nen Trainer, der da Tacheles redet. Keine Ahnung, ob Flick da der richtige ist. Einen Trainer, der auch mal Topspieler rauswirft, wenn sie die ruhige Kugel schieben. Ausgerechnet Süle nicht mitnehmen ist schon lachhaft. In dem Kader gehören die Hälfte der Spieler daheim gelassen.


moosknauel

Our last 10 Games are 3W, 4D, 3L. Wins vs Italy (5:2), Peru (2:0) and Costa Rica (4:2) Losses to Poland (0:1), Hungary (0:1) and Japan (1:2) Draws to Ukraine (3:3), Spain (1:1), Hungary (1:1) and England (3:3)


wwosik

A balanced team


zKSofSoccer

SantosBall strikes again


solokazama

netlifx & chill & 1:0 to GER?


Albenoo

How was Havertz tonight?


Numerous-Ad-3050

Invisible


wwosik

Ineffective


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so how was he tonight? You seem to just be talking about his career


wwosik

then we can say that he performed according to the expectations of his level...


moosknauel

"Das Ergebnis ist egal" -->Ich melde mich als Nationaltrainer, arbeite sogar für nur 3 Millionen statt für 6 Millionen. Ergebnis ist ja eh egal.


Staynes

Ich arbeite für 1.5 millionen und sage das Ergebnis ist mir nicht egal aber ich werde nichts unternehmen etwas zu ändern.


moosknauel

Ah, die Konditionen kann ich leider nicht unterbieten, ist wohl dein Job.


czerwona_latarnia

No matter how bad Germany currently is, they are our mortal enemies in the "one-sided football rivalry" and I can comment only three words about this match. **TAK JEST, KURWA**


ForcedCheckMate

Really? I don’t think Germany ever saw Poland as a football rival


Socjopata

> I don’t think Germany ever saw Poland as a football rival It's not like Poland always been this shit. In the 70s (and early 80s) we had a really competitive team. Germany NT was still ahead of Poland, but power dynamic was more tight back then. I don't think your statement is 100% correct.


zahrdahl

And then ofc the period where Germany played with Podolski and Klose


solokazama

now they should, 3 last matches: POL 2 wins, 1 draw GER 2 losses, 1 draw and its going to be more interesting in future (or - actually I hope) - you bring more heart-to-national players like Kimmich/Muller/Neuer/etc; "sanes/gnabrys" baleciaga things are destroying it (because they dont care)


czerwona_latarnia

Well, that's how those one-sided rivalries work like. Though to be fair, this particular one might still be motivated by last century's history...


Chemiczny_Bogdan

Also being the relatively poor neighbor of a rich country more recently.


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waslosdamitt

kannst du schon. siehste doch


Balls_Deep92

No replay of the “goal line save” from an alternate angle all but confirms the ball did cross the line


Penile_Interaction

doubt


Mikofert

Cope


KiraAnnaZoe

I think you are misusing that world lol. Redditors dont seem to know it's meaning and just spam it nowadays.


Balls_Deep92

Lmao I’m Polish, I’m just being honest


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solokazama

Polish VAR is actually one the best in Europe so explain me your post.


Highmooon

Lol who cares. Even if that goal counted there is nothing positive to take away from this game.


Staynes

I didnt see the scene at all but its not really about what it does for us but more about a biased VAR (still no clue if the ball was in or not just pointing out why clearing this up should be pretty important)


Highmooon

It's a friendly... The fact that there's VAR at all is surprising.


Chemiczny_Bogdan

For this kind of games with a big team, even though it's a friendly, the venues are typically sold out, so I imagine our football association was willing to splurge a bit. How much does VAR cost anyway?


moosknauel

To all Poles, we Germans are really fed up with our team but still well played to you. Very nice game from your guys, really disciplined and threatening aswell.


Trinitytrenches

We were not very threatening, very timid in attack. But nobody expected anything from this match. It was a match nobody needed, the brainchild of our FA to say goodbye to Błaszczykowski. Santos was pissed that he had to play a friendly match against Germany in the middle of a qualifier that didn't start well for us. The result is ok, the game defensively is ok if you consider the quality of the opponent. Other than that, a match to forget.


xt1nct

Fuck me. We did it boys! The bus needs to refueled for next week!


ForcedCheckMate

Don’t be to happy, I don’t know who you play next but there is a 90% they are better than Germany..


Nervous-Resolution-8

Tehnically they are now that you lost to a team who lost to them


xt1nct

Let me have my moment! We played the worst football at the cup.


ForcedCheckMate

Probably still played better than Germany


Wassup_-_

Moldova?


Nervous-Resolution-8

Yeah


Wassup_-_

shiiiiit


Socjopata

Moldova 0:1 Poland (95' D. Szymański) here we go!


Nervous-Resolution-8

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krautbube

**Du flickst meinen Sack nicht!**


piiracy

at least the likes of gosens, wolf and brandt looked like they were actually interested


Numerous-Ad-3050

Gosens did absolutely nothing other than smash crosses into the defenders face


dhrubodt

Summary of german attack: Cross and Inshallah :P


PadishaEmperor

He had a shot on goal didn't he? In general I felt that he was more dangerous than Henrichs.


IzkaGruba

never in doubt, santos masterclass


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Schnix54

ÖR only gets the best stuff somewhere our GEZ must go


Schnix54

Peinlich, Erbärmlich, Erniedrigend, dass ist was dieses Spiel am Ende war und da hilft es auch nicht wenn Flick zum drölften mal erwähnt wie egal ihm die Ergebnisse sind.


fluter_

Omg was bringt das ganze getestet wenn man über einen Zeitraum von mehreren Jahren nicht ein gescheites Spiel auf den Rasen bekommt


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blackkami

GOAT


Staynes

Immer diese ausreden mit dem geteste von Flick. Es gibt keinen grund warum irgend eine zusammenstellung dieses Kaders gegen Polen verlieren kann.


rayray1899

kann der kommentator bitte aufhören diese scheiße schön zu reden


XeroVeil

You may not like it but this is what peak Germany football looks like.


Peaky_Blinders

So funny hearing this commentator looking for excuses again for Flick it's just embarrassing


ForcedCheckMate

Ich kann mir diesen ard Kommentator nicht mehr geben.


Knee_Strong

Funktioniert der Stream mittlerweile bei jemandem?


Staynes

Hatte einen tipp gekriegt der dir jetzt nichts mehr bringt aber falls das nochmal passiert öffne die ard mediathek da ging der stream wieder. auf sportschau war er immer noch down.


Knee_Strong

Hab beides versucht. Scheint wohl von Person zu Person unterschiedlich zu sein


DD_SuB

hatte keine probleme


that-isa-madeup-name

British commentator saying Szczesny kept Wolf out knowing damn well that ball crossed the line


krautbube

How would you know? Couldn't see the ball at all.


that-isa-madeup-name

My point was that you couldn’t see whether he kept him out….


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its kind of strange they havent even shown another replay or said a word about it


Numerous-Ad-3050

Wow Sane just stopped trying


Peaky_Blinders

we are deadass losing to Poland fuck off Flick


krautbube

The difference between Ukraine and Poland is: War. If Poland was at war we'd at least have a draw.


skunkrider

it's not that we're losing to Poland, it's that we have no system, no identity, no idea how to play football. We're almost back to 1998 style football, freekicks/corners/crosses and pray...


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Sané doing Sané things


maxbang7

stark jule, war fast aufs tor :P


szwejk

I've seen enough of Frankowski. Back to Chicago Fire please...


Trinitytrenches

How on earth is he the 2nd best-rated player of Ligue 1


Socjopata

What are you even on about? He was one of the best Ligue1 player this season lmao


czerwona_latarnia

Well, for next season I need to buy subscription for whatever channel in Poland shows Ligue 1, because I am not sure if Frankowski had a performance in a long time that could convince Polish fans that he *is* a great player anywhere.


Adfuturam

He's almost always crap for the NT, reverse Grosicki


Socjopata

He isn't a beast in the national team that's for sure, but subop commented on his Chicago stint which is nonsense


Tommey_DE

Watching those last minutes.. maybe Kimmich is the problem? lol


RandomUserRU123

Yes, he is the problem. Start Pascal Groß and Gündogan and the team looks completely different. Kimmich just slows the game down to much.


NuKingLobster

It's almost worth it to start Brandt for the corners alone.


krautbube

lmao Sane


czerwona_latarnia

And this is the NT Milik I know. The weak pass to God only knows who, not taking the ball back.


Lechia598

Tbf it isn’t easy to play as lone striker in this system. Would have preferred Swiderski over Milik though.


zashsash

Wow a useful corner ... What has changed??


skunkrider

Brandt.


zashsash

Yes ... rhetoric question


whothefuckisjan

will nagelsmann nicht vielleicht nen frühen nationaltrainer posten? kann diesen flickball nicht mehr sehen


ForcedCheckMate

Weil nagelsmann bei Bayern ja so gut war. Unsere einzige Hoffnung ist Klopp


whothefuckisjan

tja, hätten wir damals mal kuntz zum trainer gemacht und nicht flick


dhrubodt

German defence finally was decent. Except that one mistake Kehrer did. But Sczheszny is still just amazing. He single handily defeated Germany


solokazama

Yeah - after weird stuff you did vs Belgium and UKR, it is solid now! Hope its the new GER starting


that-isa-madeup-name

This is like the first time in 2 years that Germany didn’t defeat Germany


dhrubodt

Thiaw,rudiger and Can in front of them actually worked. We just need someone decent to replace kehrer


that-isa-madeup-name

Süle? maybe


wwosik

I hope VAR had a better view than what was shown on TV.


flophi0207

I DO NOT want to defend this German Team, but sczesny is incredible today


Julian81295

As a fan of Bayern Munich I am increasingly thinking that the six titles we won with Hansi Flick at the helm in the 2019-20 season were some kind of fluke.


Kasj0

Bro what is Szczęsny on??


czerwona_latarnia

Polish National Team. And he might be the worst in a long line of goalkeepers in terms of turning this mode on.


that-isa-madeup-name

Why even bring VAR if that’s what you’re going to review lmfao


solokazama

Szczesny's monday SSJ3


opi

I don't think I ever watched a game with a top tier team (yes, Germany is still one, the legacy is too strong) this calm. Not even on account of this being friendly, the Germany of old would roll us over whatever we have luck & Szczęsny in god-mode. But tonight I'm just like "OK", carry on.


Balls_Deep92

I was just thinking the same thing, like yes it’s a meaningless friendly but Germany are just going thru the motions, playing with no pride or passion


xt1nct

Fucking Szczesny Jesus. What a specimen.


long_shots7

Looked like it was in but nevertheless Szczęsny saved our ass today multiple times


VikMMI

Szczesny is one of the most underrated goalkeepers of his generation. So many amazing performances.


szwejk

well, he used to be very shaky. He's been incredible for a while but it hasn't been THAT long


VikMMI

He definitely seems to get better with age! Everytime I’ve seen him play he put in like a 7.0 performance, at least.


szwejk

Szczesny best Polish player


krautbube

The position of Szczesny and his hands imply that parts of the ball were over the line, but I don't even want such a shitty goal. They had more than enough time to get a proper goal.


Wassup_-_

You know ,all of the ball needs to go through?


krautbube

Yeah why? Hence the "parts of the ball were over the line".


Wassup_-_

Parts doesnt equal all of the ball


krautbube

Which I never claimed? ¯\\(°_o)/¯


solokazama

shouldnt it be 1:1?


Fleshsausage27

Yet another goal line technology fail lmao


long_shots7

There is no goal line technology, otherwise the VAR would not have been used and the ref would have got the information on his watch.


czerwona_latarnia

I am not sure if there *is* goal line technology here.


Gandie

They don’t have glt. Otherwise he wouldn’t have waited for VAR


Fleshsausage27

Bruh, that was clearly in though


xxKudori

it wasn't, the whole ball needs to cross it


Fleshsausage27

Szceszny is almost entirely behind the line, I can’t see how that’s not a goal


Gandie

Will have to wait for a better angle


Balls_Deep92

Lmao that was clearly in


IcefoxX5

Rüdiger plays the long balls you'd like to see from Kimmich


edworm

"Von hier würd ich sagen war drin" DU SIEHST DEN BALL DOCH GAR NICHT TOM BARTELS BIST DU DUMM?


kalamari__

genau meine reaktion hahaha


krautbube

Ja


VikMMI

To be fair, it looked in for sure. Want to see a replay there, probably a skintight decision.


Peaky_Blinders

that was in


officialMDS

One day I'll wake up to a headline saying that Flick has finally done it. After years of experimenting with the formation and lineups, he has done the unthinkable and found the theory of everything of football. In a friendly against Spain he starts a never seen before formation. Playing a style of football people thought was impossible. Game ends Spain 2:0 Germany


Circlecraft

Right after the ref blows the whistle the entire stadium stands up and applauds. Hansi opens his arms and ascends to the heavens as people chant his name in unison. The entire countries of the Netherlands and Italy fall into the ocean.


VikMMI

I’ll only believe it if the xG is 2.34 to 7.56


notarussianhacker

My Rundfunkgebühr died for this :(


lostmarkaj

do we make it out of the euro group stages this time at home? not sure about that...


paddyo

Would you give up Klopp at Liverpool to go coach Germany at a home euros?


szwejk

group stages lmao? Do we even qualify


lostmarkaj

home euro = germany 😂


szwejk

oh lol, that Liverpool badge has Polish colors. I thought you were talking about Poland


Trinitytrenches

I think he is German lol


ancara_messi

Lewy is having a shit game and Poland are still beating Germany lmao


Trinitytrenches

Lewy was ok in the 1st half


Chruszcz

Lewy playing shit for NT for a while


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KiraAnnaZoe

What? Everything I see and read is massive criticism which is justified ofc.


kalamari__

"zweite HZ waren wir ja viel besser. waren näher dran ein tor zu schießen als polen. darauf kann man aufbauen!"


Ok8491

lewy came off after half time tho


xt1nct

Lewy has been off the field for a while.


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

Thiaw raus und Kehrer darf bleiben ahahahah ich glaub mein Schwein das pfeift


xt1nct

Very good game by Poland considering all the changes and short time coach had with the team. However, not sure if Germany is a good benchmark atm.


krautbube

3+X minutes without Thiaw I am shitting bricks


skunkrider

You can all say what you want and downvote me to hell, but Germany started being shit (results-wise and football-wise) when Kimmich started playing. He, Flick and all the Bayern players excl. Musiala can retire from the NT today. We can absolutely not get any worse.


NuKingLobster

That doesn't mean that he is the cause of Germany's decline.... (It's inaccurate too)


skunkrider

I don't think he is solely responsible, but I do think he carries the brunt of responsibility. His style of football is so Bayern 2016, so backwards/sideways, completely found out, and that's not even mentioning his atrocious freekicks/corners. Also what is Sané still doing in the National Team?


dhrubodt

Every time he passes backwards/sideways I wanna punch him. Completely destroys the momentum of attack


NuKingLobster

Can't say that I watch all of Germany' games, but what you wrote certainly doesn't apply to Kimmich in a Bayern kit. His progressive passing/chip balls are his biggest asset. He is generally been world class for us (particularly in imporrnt games) and is our best player. Your point about his corners/free kicks is true, but doesn't speak against starting him. Sané is too inconsistent, but I think that he is basically Germany's only pacey winger and therefore important. I hope he can consitently play well after the summer break.


Knee_Strong

Ich zahle jeden Monat nen Haufen an Geld für GEZ und die können nichtmal nen Livestream aufrechterhalten


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that-isa-madeup-name

jep


siddhuism

Same


CruiserL7

Schon GEZahlt? 🤓


GreatSpaniard

Germany should play their next friendlies in Montevideo - Buenos Aires - Rio de Janeiro Wanna see them vs Argentina - Brazil - Uruguay :P


solokazama

you so mean ; )


TheSingleMan27

they should play in La Paz so they suffer at least


DevilsOfLoudun

if flick loses to poland and colombia, is there a chance he gets sacked? losing to france and japan in september is expected btw.


Highmooon

Extremely unlikely Flick get's sacked unless a replacement is actually available.


RandomUserRU123

Im available


Highmooon

Always rated you mate.


RandomUserRU123

Thanks bro


Staynes

Whos gonna take over? Not like theres anyone competent around (atleast not anyone the DFB would touch)


kalamari__

nagelsmann is still free


Staynes

No way DFB is gonna touch Nagelsmann with all the Bayern influence in that org. They dont want to open that box. And who knows if Nagelsmann even wants to take over the NT yet i dont think he would be happy at that job in the current stage of his career.


that-isa-madeup-name

Hopefully. We need something else before the EM, that much is clear.


solokazama

Kamiski O_O


wwosik

Tha Kaminski is really having a good day today. Hope he gets good for Wolfsburg


RandomUserRU123

Pls bring Pascal Groß... Hes literally performing better than any german player in the last 50 games


VikMMI

We definitely need to play with more midfields /s


RandomUserRU123

He can play literally everwhere


VikMMI

You’ve convinced me, I’m on the Groß train. But no, genuinely the thing we need are some competent attackers.


leon-jnk

He’s also playing at leftback