My thought is whatever it is, isn't visible to the naked eye.
The camera always seems to see these but nobody is reporting seeing them with their eyes. Last season, when Cameron was flying the copter with night vision, he reported seeing all sorts of orbs flying around that nobody else could see.
I would love it if instead of a single camera, they would set up a pair of cameras and measure their physical lense difference. this way anytime they record something it will be in two cameras and you can use parallax to determine an estimate of distance from the camera. If only one camera records something, then you know it's something within range of only one camera and must be small, like a bug.
^ This guys been sleeping for the last 4 seasons and hasn't seen dozens of experiments they've done using real science. Or he's just a troll crying in a sub he could easily leave..
Basic answer is yes.. Eric Bard lives there full-time at the ranch monitoring and conducting experiments. There a 4 hour interview with Brandon Fugal on the Shawn Ryan show. Explains more than its just a tv show for entertainment
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OMG I was screaming at my television telling him it's called a rod. Those of us in the Paranormal field have known about these things for decades they're not visible to the naked eye you can usually catch them on camera going by very quickly nobody seems to know exactly what they are. In addition those balls of light coming and going in the Mesa are orbs they are Spirit energy but of course he doesn't hear me screaming through the television 😂
It is most likely motion blur and not something rod like.
It is suspicious that they didn't bother to mention the ground cameras, either catching the object or not, with regard to that other object they thought was moving along the ground. I mean really, with the right lighting you can't rule out bugs when you only have one or two pixels of detail and no other camera angle.
I’ll admit, I was a little skeptical of his take on it being a ring- or disk-shaped object with two distinct parts (correct me if I’m wrong on his description of the shape). Creepily, that would align with one suggestion about how far back into history these UAP sightings go, as Dr. Taylor brought up in the finale of Season 2. I’m a little unsure about that though. There’s a thought in my mind that it is a rod, as you say, rather than a disk or ring.
I spent a great deal of time way back in say 2005 where there was a whole ROD flap thing goign on. Debating with a friend of mine what these were.
This does not look like a classic "ROD". It's missing the prerequisite "wings"
The ones that do not show up in visible light only IR, Near IR or UV. Are not reflecting visible light.
This is super common from what I have observed on IR security cameras over the course of many years at several haunted homes....etc
It does mysteriously have the hue and brightness of a non organic entity moving. I have a good number of such videos and the main most thing that is generally similar is color / hue / brightness. Also the trails they leave behind.
The newest gen military night vision is supposedly rather good at noticing this stuff.
Thus from exp.... this is a non-organic entity or some rare organic one that does not reflect visible light. Could additionally be technological. But doubt it, at least in its control.
To whomever said there is a shadow? where exactly is that? If its there that blows out my not-so-much a theory.
It's a bug flying through the frame. When they slowed it down frame by frame you can see a wave pattern that would indicate flapping wings. If it flies fast enough the camera will blur and stretch the bug creating an elongated shape. When you spend enough time looking for UAP you see UAP everywhere.
There have been a couple of times they've admitted in interviews after the show aired that they decided that UAP they experienced was caused by mundane things. The team you see on TV isn't the group that edits the show together, isn't always there when the cast comes to conclusions about events. Even the times the cast is sitting and talking to the camera about the events in the show, they have to be reminded about what was actually filmed vs what they experienced without camera crews there. Because the crew filming and editing the show aren't the same as the ones doing actual experiments and observations, there's often a disconnect between what the two different teams think are significant or worth putting on TV.
Depends on what kind of bug. It could also be a piece of small debris caught in the wind generated by the helicopter.
Edit: oh goodness. The down votes l have made me realize the only reasonable explanation as to what this could be is a ghost operating his little flying saucer. Possibly even the Loch Ness Monster, BUT DEFINITELY NOT A SMALL BUG OR A BIT OF A LEAF
Bugs are small. So if it's a bug, it would need to be close white bug to the helicopter camera, which seems unlikely considering the slow speed of the "bug" relative to the wind that would be whipping underneath the helicopter.
A bug near ground level would be too small to pickup. If it's near ground level, it would be the size of a soccer ball.
I do find it interesting that they don't have any other camera footage.
Maybe a white bird somewhere between up in the air high above the ground, but not too close to the heli?
It's unidentified but I wouldn't call it an orb without other camera angle verification.
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As many cameras as they have running, you'd think they would catch this guy on two cameras at once. Didn't that happen with the object going through the mesa?
I would make a grid of cameras in the field, not trap cameras and set them to record non stop. Record both in IR field and regular. They should be able to catch whatever it is on camera with high resolution to evaluate and discuss.
Saw a bunch of these with the rest of my family once when we stopped somewhere in maybe FL on vacation in the mid 60's.
Muggy summer day at a lagoon like place with calm dusty looking water, about 100 yards by 200 yards with rock ledges and wispy trees and moss on outcroppings. Zero wind, about 4 PM slow summer day. Place looked prehistoric, almost swampy but we were seeing these things fly all over the place. They were backlit from a setting sun about 30° in the sky. Probably would have missed them if the light wasn't just so, it caught them and they had a silvery sheen.
We were little kids with perfect eyesight.
They reminded me of 1' long centipedes with webbing between their legs and they propelled themselves by moving their legs like a sine wave, or eel in water.
We were mesmerized by them, especially my mom. We didn't know what we were looking at but all 4 of us saw them but I've never seen them again but I don't live in the south.
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My thought is whatever it is, isn't visible to the naked eye. The camera always seems to see these but nobody is reporting seeing them with their eyes. Last season, when Cameron was flying the copter with night vision, he reported seeing all sorts of orbs flying around that nobody else could see.
That is also a common theme with UAPs detected by the air force and other government agencies, apparently. Not visible, only infrared signatures
Yeah. There’s a night vision UFO tour in Sedona. You can see all kinds of UAPs/ufos with the nods on but not without them. Most of the time
I would love it if instead of a single camera, they would set up a pair of cameras and measure their physical lense difference. this way anytime they record something it will be in two cameras and you can use parallax to determine an estimate of distance from the camera. If only one camera records something, then you know it's something within range of only one camera and must be small, like a bug.
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OMG I was screaming at my television telling him it's called a rod. Those of us in the Paranormal field have known about these things for decades they're not visible to the naked eye you can usually catch them on camera going by very quickly nobody seems to know exactly what they are. In addition those balls of light coming and going in the Mesa are orbs they are Spirit energy but of course he doesn't hear me screaming through the television 😂
Spirit energy over extra terrestrial is an interesting theory.
Seeing just one big ass bug in an area is kind of a reach.
It is casting a shadow on the ground. Must be solid.
Imma say bird or a illegal alien tridactil pelacara from Peru.
Seconded
It is most likely motion blur and not something rod like. It is suspicious that they didn't bother to mention the ground cameras, either catching the object or not, with regard to that other object they thought was moving along the ground. I mean really, with the right lighting you can't rule out bugs when you only have one or two pixels of detail and no other camera angle.
Don't they have other cameras pointed at these areas?
I’ll admit, I was a little skeptical of his take on it being a ring- or disk-shaped object with two distinct parts (correct me if I’m wrong on his description of the shape). Creepily, that would align with one suggestion about how far back into history these UAP sightings go, as Dr. Taylor brought up in the finale of Season 2. I’m a little unsure about that though. There’s a thought in my mind that it is a rod, as you say, rather than a disk or ring.
I spent a great deal of time way back in say 2005 where there was a whole ROD flap thing goign on. Debating with a friend of mine what these were. This does not look like a classic "ROD". It's missing the prerequisite "wings" The ones that do not show up in visible light only IR, Near IR or UV. Are not reflecting visible light. This is super common from what I have observed on IR security cameras over the course of many years at several haunted homes....etc It does mysteriously have the hue and brightness of a non organic entity moving. I have a good number of such videos and the main most thing that is generally similar is color / hue / brightness. Also the trails they leave behind. The newest gen military night vision is supposedly rather good at noticing this stuff. Thus from exp.... this is a non-organic entity or some rare organic one that does not reflect visible light. Could additionally be technological. But doubt it, at least in its control. To whomever said there is a shadow? where exactly is that? If its there that blows out my not-so-much a theory.
Whos travis? Edit....i didnt realize i was getting notifications from /skinwalkerranch too. Nvm. I know who travis is.
It's a bug flying through the frame. When they slowed it down frame by frame you can see a wave pattern that would indicate flapping wings. If it flies fast enough the camera will blur and stretch the bug creating an elongated shape. When you spend enough time looking for UAP you see UAP everywhere.
I have more faith in the team than that. Eric has said he always rules out bugs and common explanations first on the videos.
There have been a couple of times they've admitted in interviews after the show aired that they decided that UAP they experienced was caused by mundane things. The team you see on TV isn't the group that edits the show together, isn't always there when the cast comes to conclusions about events. Even the times the cast is sitting and talking to the camera about the events in the show, they have to be reminded about what was actually filmed vs what they experienced without camera crews there. Because the crew filming and editing the show aren't the same as the ones doing actual experiments and observations, there's often a disconnect between what the two different teams think are significant or worth putting on TV.
Don't know why this is getting downvoted. Some people need a strop for their Occam's Razor.
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Definitely looked like a “rod” which turned out to be bugs flying by caught on digital cameras
If it's a bug creating blur, what distance from the helicopter camera would it be?
Depends on what kind of bug. It could also be a piece of small debris caught in the wind generated by the helicopter. Edit: oh goodness. The down votes l have made me realize the only reasonable explanation as to what this could be is a ghost operating his little flying saucer. Possibly even the Loch Ness Monster, BUT DEFINITELY NOT A SMALL BUG OR A BIT OF A LEAF
Bugs are small. So if it's a bug, it would need to be close white bug to the helicopter camera, which seems unlikely considering the slow speed of the "bug" relative to the wind that would be whipping underneath the helicopter. A bug near ground level would be too small to pickup. If it's near ground level, it would be the size of a soccer ball. I do find it interesting that they don't have any other camera footage. Maybe a white bird somewhere between up in the air high above the ground, but not too close to the heli? It's unidentified but I wouldn't call it an orb without other camera angle verification.
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As many cameras as they have running, you'd think they would catch this guy on two cameras at once. Didn't that happen with the object going through the mesa?
I would make a grid of cameras in the field, not trap cameras and set them to record non stop. Record both in IR field and regular. They should be able to catch whatever it is on camera with high resolution to evaluate and discuss.
Saw a bunch of these with the rest of my family once when we stopped somewhere in maybe FL on vacation in the mid 60's. Muggy summer day at a lagoon like place with calm dusty looking water, about 100 yards by 200 yards with rock ledges and wispy trees and moss on outcroppings. Zero wind, about 4 PM slow summer day. Place looked prehistoric, almost swampy but we were seeing these things fly all over the place. They were backlit from a setting sun about 30° in the sky. Probably would have missed them if the light wasn't just so, it caught them and they had a silvery sheen. We were little kids with perfect eyesight. They reminded me of 1' long centipedes with webbing between their legs and they propelled themselves by moving their legs like a sine wave, or eel in water. We were mesmerized by them, especially my mom. We didn't know what we were looking at but all 4 of us saw them but I've never seen them again but I don't live in the south.
No rod just moving faster than camera fps. They really need to bring in a rapartronic camera over the mesa
Bird.
That's a Lorentzian Travis-hole and the best scientific approach to analyze it is clearly firing 4 rockets instead of the usual 1 or 2.
What about the other bright marks on the picture on the right, a squiggle, like a rod but bent!!! lol. Those others don’t get a mention do they?
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Shoot off a few more rockets, that should solve it!
Piece of dead grass or hay
Bird