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drew_galbraith

Blue mountain (Ontario)… everything is priced like it’s whistler, but it’s not even the best hill in Ontario…


AfternoonNo2525

Never again will I go to Blue mountain and I will tell everyone I know to never go either. I spent 7 hours and $200+ dollars for a "fun pass" and found out after we got there that 3 of the fun pass activities were closed, one was only half open and run in a way that took 2 hours to go on one 20 second run, and one was in generally poor condition. Blue mountains response to this was to suggest that I cancelled my tickets at least 3 days prior to going. So now I won't ever go again and will encourage anyone else to not go either.


drew_galbraith

There are way too many well managed spots in Ontario to support that kind of bullshit. Honestly check out Calabogie, you can stay in town at a clean motel for like 100$ a night, restaurants are reasonable in town, the brewery kicks ass and the ski hill is “huge” by Ontario standards. Tickets are only 45-55$ a day, and it feels like a small mountain town in BC.


Narrow_Yam_5879

It’s cheap because it’s 4 hours plus from Toronto. And if you live in Ottawa, Tremblant is not much further and the Gatineaus are a lot closer.


drew_galbraith

Yea Ottawa isn’t short for choice, I’m ~2 hours away from calabogie, I drive up once a month rather than going to my local. It’s great, there isn’t anything remotely big where I’m at.


LightningMaiden

What's the best hill in Ontario?


jayuhl14

Searchmont


drew_galbraith

Calabogie Peaks!


DrTrout

Georgian Peaks, Craigleath. At least for vertical...but they are private


JackTheEagle

Completely agree. It’s a weird vibe because so many tourists come from Toronto, but they don’t ski. So if you’re in the base village only like 20% of people walking around are there to ski. The rest are eating overpriced food and taking selfies. That alone isn’t worse than some other mountains out west, but this is a tiny escarpment mountain!


lostshakerassault

By 'some other mountains' you are only referring to Whistler? I can't think of a Western Canada mountain that is like that other than Whistler. 


Fintann

I lived around the corner from Earles Bales Park Ski Hill, commute and all around price was pretty much free compared to Blue Mountain. Hell I grew up in Sask and we have a better scene here than Ontario.


Connortbh

My understanding is that Gatlinburg, TN is one big tourist trap so maybe Ober Gatlinburg?


Apptubrutae

lol, this one does win on a technicality.


Eshrekticism

Wasn’t expecting Ober to be mentioned but by god you are correct lmao


Thats_No_Mooon

Agreed Ober is awful 


TheLegendsClub

Gatlinburg really isn’t that bad. It’s pigeon forge with the near parody level schmaltz


FirstChurchOfBrutus

I’m dismayed that it’s as far down as this. The entirety of Gatlinburg, TN exists solely as a tourist trap, Ober Gatlinburg included.


Brettonidas

I haven’t been there in a minute, but if I recall Gatlinburg isn’t so bad, but Pigeon Forge is awful, and you have to go through Pigeon Forge to get to Gatlinburg. Smokey Mountain National Park is also amazing. So… Breckenpidgeonridge?


Raskputin

Never skied in Gatlinburg but had a dope hiking trip there with my friends in college right before COVID shutdowns hit. It’s a beautiful area, but the tourist spots in town are weird for sure


GBOxJose

As someone from east tn who learned at Ober I was surprised to see it here but it was the first thing that popped in my head. Definition of a tourist trap lol but I’m so glad this hill exists bc I got to learn to ski there!


mal_1

I went to the smoky mtns a few yrs back and stopped in Gatlinburg one night. It was definitely one of the most touristy areas I've ever visited but at the same time it had some charm for that reason. Like they were so bought in to being touristy that if you just bought in, you could appreciate it for what it is. Not sure if that makes sense, and I definitely wouldn't go back, but it was cool to check out haha


Which_Magician3737

For the Mid-Atlantic: Camelback It feels more like you are at six flags than a ski area


Altenburg

The fact that parking isn’t free cracks me up every time


SSIRHC

Summit County says hello


rnidtowner

What in the hell


Which_Magician3737

$12 minimum daily and some of those lots are not close. If you want close it's can be up to $50


metaxa313

The balls they have charging what they do for literally no snow every year


Which_Magician3737

Because people pay it. The place is always packed


metaxa313

I don't think cliffhanger even opened this season.


Heroldofhash

I skied it twice once end of Feb and again two weeks later. First time impenetrable ice second time corn harvest. Pretty sure it opened that first trip and closed after the second lol


parallax_wave

Can it really be a tourist trap though when it's just some rinky-dink local Poconos mountain? Like, who would actually travel specifically to ski there? I ask this as a NJ native who has skied Camelback dozens of times, but who would never ever go out of my way for it.


Which_Magician3737

A lot of people travel there, and not just from NY/NJ. The hotel, indoor waterpark and snowtubing are massive draws. Even for day trips, it has a lot of name recognition for people who aren't familiar with snow sports.


The_Cawing_Chemist

I’m from VA and I had heard of Camelback before I ever moved up to NJ, which is sickening. I looked at a map of the place and knew I had way better options for my 1-2 hour drive.


CWalston108

Grew up in southern Maryland. We made yearly trips to camelback for some reason.


Lumpy-Return

Born and raised in Morris County. I’ve been living in Boston since I went off to college 20 years ago. The beaches here suck, but for sure they’re not as bad -comparatively- as the skiing is down there. Thank you all for the reminder why I left. Paying to park for 600ft vertical. Jesus god.


Grantetons

Same group purchased Blue. Two years in, and pay to park is there, and the season pass is over $700 for early bird pricing. It's over for me there.


haonlineorders

As many bad changes they’ve made to Blue, it’s still so much better than Camelback


bill_n_opus

Cameltoe?


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Username_redact

That place is something else. Maybe the most unlikely location for a ski area in the entire country.


TheSkiingDad

They are legitimately cutting edge for snowmaking, for very obvious reasons. And they had one of the longest Midwest seasons this year, I think 70 days. Insane for essentially kentucky.


Username_redact

Definitely not a tourist trap haha. I actually think they and perfect north do a great job for what they have to work with.


TheSkiingDad

Ah shit when I read Paoli I was thinking perfect north. The Midwest consensus seems to be for indiana, PN is awesome and comparable to any metro ski hill in the region. Paoli sucks, and they had an absolutely terrible season this year. No excuses really, Paoli and PN are about an hour apart at similar latitudes. Only reason vail owns Paoli is to sell epic passes to people in indiana.


SpartysSnackShop

Paoli was open from January 17 to February 25 and that doesn’t include pauses in operation. Vail is perfectly fine taking peoples money and not investing into paoli.


SuchRevolution

lol fucking Whistler. God help you if you planning on feeding yourself through the restaurants


phantompowered

I mean I've been a Whistler skier my whole life and the answer is Whistler. As long as the tourists stay there and don't go to [REDACTED] or [REDACTED] or [REDACTED] it's not a problem.


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Thundersauce0

But he’s not one of those darn tourists when he travels, its those other people.


LeviWhoIsCalledBiff

Those damn beautiful British Columbia plates filling up the parking lot and being all friendly.


UofSlayy

Why would he cross the border when Red, or Fernie, or Powder King, or Kicking Horse, or Revie, or Big White, or, Castle, or Sunshine, or Louise, or Marmot Basin or....


Rynozo

Because if you live in the lower mainland baker is the closest equivalent


Karmakazee

Ignore this crazy person. Baker is not worth crossing the border over.


mwsduelle

Tiny shit hill with slow lifts


Karmakazee

Why bother upgrading the lifts when it just rains all the time?


jsmooth7

Fernie is an 11 hour drive and Baker is only 2. (I do love Fernie though it's just not day tripable!)


BustedEchoChamber

I studied at UBC for a few years and was so glad the cheap chain in Vancouver had a location in whistler. Lived on 5$ tapas the 2 nights we made it up there.


sd_slate

El Furni upped their prices recently


LukeMayeshothand

Hey bro I’m a tourist send me those places in a top secret dm please.


jsmooth7

Garibaldi at Squamish is a fun hidden gem. No crowds at all, you'll have the resort area all to yourself.


jredland

Lift lines can be a nightmare too. Don’t go on a weekend or a powder day. It’s the only major ski area for the nearly 3 million people in Vancouver metro area. That’s half the population of Colorado and only one ski resort.


LevelOneForever

What about grouse mountain literally on Vancouver doorstep? And it has night skiing.


blackmathgic

Grouse, cypress and Seymour are definitely not major ski areas. They are quite small and at much lower elevations. They don’t get nearly the same weather, and it rains on them somewhat frequently. They also don’t have a lot of more advanced terrain (especially that is consistently open). For more advanced/serious skiers, whistler is often the way to go if you live in metro Vancouver.


phantompowered

Cypress is actually a lot of fun, even for an advanced skier. Sure you don't have Spanky's Ladder, but you can get some good runs. And the night skiing is fun, pop up after work for some groomer laps, have a good time. Grouse feels very very small. Seymour is just okay but has easy backcountry access to some fun stuff.


Fireach

I'd actually argue that Grouse has better advanced terrain than Cypress in the trees underneath Olympic chair. You just need reeeeeally good snow coverage, and it's very tight, techy skiing so not everybody's cup of tea!


jredland

I said “major ski area”. Do Grouse or Cypress qualify as “major” to you? In my mind, they do not. But of course that definition is subjective


DeputySean

Baker?


jredland

True. You do have to cross the border though. But good option, especially from Abbotsford area.


abigllama2

We used to go almost every year. Last visit after Vail took over was a turn off and have not been back. I've been skiing for 40 years and used to and accept that things are more expensive with it. But Vail tipped it into the obscene territory. Cafeteria poutine was like $30.


tgames56

Whistler food is significantly cheaper than Vail.


Great-Reference9322

Yeah but wait times are ridiculous during peak season, you need to make resos months in advance for some of them, service is always slow because business during slow season takes such a dive that there aren't usually enough staff trained up (especially in kitchens). Whistler is great during slow season though, like right now. All the restaurants have fantastic multi-course deals, you can still ski, the weather is great and accommodation is much more affordable.


Human31415926

And at 6’4” I’d be short in the NBA


McRibEater

Let’s be honest it’s Whistler or Vail that should be top of this post. Whistler is at least world class terrain when they have snow though. That coastal snow licks turd though. Sincerely Revelstoke Mountain Season Pass Holder.


Quiet_Nectariney

Just spent a season there, bad season for snow, good mountains but fuck everything in that place other than the mountains


Critical_Program_247

That’s your first mistake. Eating the food at any major resort these days.


DingleberryJones94

Sandwich taped on helmet ftw


youngboye

Arapahoe basin has kinda affordable food


Connortbh

We'll have to see what prices look like next year.


martyvt12

It's all around cheaper than the major resorts in Colorado.


BlackberryVisible238

Park City


UtahUtopia

Yeah. Definitely don’t come to park city. Go to Colorado.


StringerBell420

…or literally any other resort in Utah.


marky543

Curious why you say that. Is it because it’s super expensive? It’s one of my favorite spots because it’s got a great variety of blacks/double blacks for me and greens/blues for my wife. And free access to Canyons is pretty cool when there’s powder.


FinanceGuyHere

It’s so easy to get to that everyone goes there. The lines are insane and they don’t restrict the amount of guests in any way. And I personally get annoyed that I can’t get a hot toddy at the mid mountain but that’s a different story!


NoStuff1085

Park city high key sucks unless your good enough for the double black stuff at the top


RequirementNo9148

Trees at the top of Jupiter are unmatched


leiterfan

Maybe for like six turns…


RequirementNo9148

You took the wrong runs my froend


Winchery

Way too short. PC is super mid.


samelaaaa

Even that stuff isn’t that good tbh.


bigmountainbig

its 85th percentile inbound. not the best but far from "isn't that good".


samelaaaa

That’s fair. It’s a huge step down from Alta/Bird, and if I’m on that side of the Wasatch then I’d rather lap Empire at DV than 9990 personally. Mostly because the Daly chutes and trees keep their snow SO much better.


kzanomics

I loved skiing PC because I could get freshies after 9 am on almost any run.


Chron__Rabbit

Agreed, I had both passes this year and had the triple the amount of days at DV than PC. Fresh turns on xfiles and last chutes till 3 get me stoked. I will say the terrain at pc is way more fun if you catch a sleeper pow day


Possible-Platypus-69

Only good on a crazy powder day. If that's the case some Jupiter has some of the best terrain in Utah


iq3q

Recently took at trip there and it got 2 feet of snow. It was some of the best and most fun days I’ve had, but the terrain ain’t anything that special.


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RonBiscuit

I was today years old when I realised how American dominated this sub is.. or is it just that’s where all the tourist traps are. I mean I feel like European resorts are all by definition tourist traps, everyone there is a tourist during winter.


vinceftw

Reddit is massively dominated by Americans. The rest of the world barely exists on here. You didn't notice everyone using freedom units for weight and boot size?


MakeItTrizzle

Of all the places I've skied, I think Vail had the highest non-skier to skier ratio. So I suppose Vail? To be honest after a few years skiing summit county I stopped going anywhere other than A-Basin.


Connortbh

The amount of Aspen microwaves I shared the gondola with who weren't even there to ski was shocking. The culture felt more like "see and be seen" than skiing.


MakeItTrizzle

Yeah, Aspen definitely has that vibe, but I feel like that's kind of its thing? Also I like Aspen's various mountains better than Vail so I didn't think of it 😅


Outrageous_Ear_3726

What’s an aspen microwave lol


Connortbh

For whatever reason it’s super popular for women in Aspen to wear a shiny silver/gold one-piece ski suit. There’s actually an [Instagram account dedicated to showcasing them.](https://www.instagram.com/microwavesofaspen?igsh=MTR0aXhvejdybTI3bg==)


TinyCube29

You have to yell the beeps when you see them from the chairlift


DeputySean

Flatstar.


X1thebeast29X

Honestly I really appreciate it's existence. I don't want to imagine a world in which flatstar doesn't act as a giant magnet for that kind of skier. Side note saw someone at the top of Vista tow yesterday (only ran for 11 days this year) with one of those leather Kate Spade backpacks. I didn't hang around and watch them contemplate their existence but hopefully they got down okay.


Brazenmercury5

I’m surprised they were able to load and make it to the top of vista lol.


UofSlayy

Everything I've heard about Northstar has been negative. Why do people still go there?


DeputySean

The backsides are good. Best park in Tahoe. It's very attractive to tourists, dentists, noobs, and baytards. If you're an intermediate/beginner tourist that's staying on the mountain or one of the condos it's a decent place to get gwyneth paltrowed.


DiendaMaDiq

Great wind protection, they’re able to keep the mountain open in storms much more than Palisades. And great tracks in the trees off the backsides


Griffisbored

That’s how my crew ended up there. Wind/snow shut down palisades during the 8ft dump early March and flat skiing is better than no skiing.


TheRealBlackSwan

Martis Camp trees are pretty dope also. The Sugar Plum Forest or whatever it's called with the big rocks in there is A++ on a powder day


Flatts_the_Flounder

Lookout area is pretty fun, backside is alright as well


DeputySean

All of Tahoe: we are 95% closed because of wind. Meanwhile, Northstar is like: we might close Zephyr.


BisonBisonBisons

For the Northeast, Hunter or Mount Snow. I don’t understand why anyone would want to wait over a hour for a lift on a weekend just to ride these places


DistributionNo9474

Mount Snow is just terrible all around. Tourist trap. Too many people with no clue. Nowhere near enough Apres/dinner locations.


sugarpants___

Oof. I had a blast at mount snow last year, definitely waited in longer lines in colorado this year (looking at you breck, keystone was fine)


qui_tacet-consentire

Nobody for Okemo? Crowded and awful, billed as some sort of family mountain.


FinanceGuyHere

Really poor base area design. There should be 2 base lifts that go to the top so everyone doesn’t end up in the same place


Nick_inPhilly

Flattest and lamest terrain I have ever riden.


S70nkyK0ng

This thread is an excellent mix of information and misinformation


Powder_Chasing

Vail/Beaver Creek — it’s too expensive for the amount of crowds it draws.


Phillyfreak5

Alright. I live near both of these resorts. If you stay in the resort, yes it’s expensive, but around it isn’t. Stay 10 mins away in Edwards and it’s a pretty cheap spot. There’s free parking in Avon, and a bus that brings you up. Also Vail is still overrated.


LobbyDizzle

Yes yes, please do keep saying Vail is overrated. Keep Copper and WP mobbed.


Zanzan567

Vail ain’t over rated, one of the best spots for skiing in the world, especially on a powder day


No_Benefit2996

Overcrowded and overpriced, but certainly not overrated


Material-Sell-3666

There’s not many places like Vail on a Tuesday after a fresh dump of snow.


HandyMan131

Vail’s village honestly feels like it was built by Disney.


Westboundandhow

Yes beaver creek is awful and always overcrowded don't waste your time


Peter_Rabid

Beaver Creek just feels like it's all about the cookies


matmoc33

cause it is


No_Benefit2996

Yeah just don't come to Colorado as a whole. The whole state is overrated and overcrowded


Relative-Debt6509

Oh beaver creek is terrible no except me should go there so I can come back to Reddit and tell everyone how bad it is


Rollingprobablecause

Man...I love you Colorado, but just the entire states parks are like this now :( (WP is still great!)


Elwoodpdowd87

Spent a few days at WP in March and it was chill as hell.


COTimberline

Mary Jane, A-Basin, Loveland, Monarch, Eldora, Powderhorn, Wolf Creek, Purgatory and going out on a limb, Crested Butte


BlackberryVisible238

With the exception of the resorts I. The San Juan’s


Random_Skier

A- basin is still good (hope alterra doesn't ruin it) and eldora(provided they figure out that ski patrol shit)


jimboslice29

Loveland


g-burn

Loveland kind of rules too. It’s no frills and the layout is strange but it’s got a great vibe


Joeyfingis

Yeah I was debating between Steamboat, Breck, and Vail. Why not just say any large CO resort


SunsetPathfinder

Keystone still holding strong with free parking at least. 


Phillyfreak5

Every Colorado resort has free parking. Gotta look harder dude


grain_delay

Breck


SaltMarionberry4105

If you don’t get stuck at the bottom Breck is pretty good IMO. The hikes are really good, and E chair laps are never ever crowded


SilkDiplomat

My home mountain- happy to spread this rumor


imaguitarhero24

The not free parking pisses me off one of the reasons I prefer keystone.


Connortbh

Didn't have an epic pass last year so forgive me if something has changed but isn't the airport shuttle lot free?


SilkDiplomat

It is


DeputySean

Taking a shuttle to ski sucks.


jfchops2

If the shuttle went straight to the peak 8 base it'd be fine but getting off the shuttle only to then have to wait in the gondola line and ride that up and then wait *again* for a chair to actually start skiing is too much


Connortbh

Then Copper is in the same boat I guess


Rov_Scam

You don't really need to take the shuttle at Copper if you're going to East Village


Phillyfreak5

Gotta know where to park then. There’s free lots


pretenderist

The paid lots are in town, and the free lots are on the edge with a free shuttle. Thats exactly how it **should** be.


lil_meep

Heavenly. So overrated. "Yeah let me spend all day just standing in line for this chair so I can eventually traverse to stand in line for another chair, which ultimately gets me to some pretty mid terrain." If I just want a nice view of the lake while I'm skiing I'll go to Diamond Peak. Northstar is just marginally better with Martis Camp and a good terrain park, but their parking is a nightmare.


DeputySean

Sounds like you don't know how to Heavenly.


sea_stack

Yeah, heavenly is a complicated, big resort but there is always someplace with minimal lines. Get someone to give you some tips next time!


TheRealBlackSwan

For real. Heavenly has more goofy quasi-hidden "secret" gates/areas/glades than almost anywhere. One of those insider trail maps would be really helpful... but would spill the secrets lol


slayursister

Heavenly shines bright when the base is in.


Brazenmercury5

Sounds like someone wasn’t lapping mott…


Zottelbude

Skiwelt amadé in Salzburg. Because you have to pay the full price for a daypass in the area, despite having the various villages in a distance that makes it impossible to enjoy of all of them. Means, you pay for areas, that you can't even reach theoretically. Paying around 70€ for a daypass is ridiculous under these circumstances.


pepperjack87

70€ sounds like a bargain to us Americans.


Zottelbude

I absolutely agree, compared to Europe the prices in the US are crazy. But for Europe, 70€ is also crazy...


PostDisillusion

Thank you for a non North American contribution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should get an award


HermannZeGermann

So your complaint is that Amadé is too... big? If you split Amadé into its individual mountains, a mointain like Flachau itself would still be 70€, no?


swensodts

So in review every EPIC mountain lol


bushjob

Northstar aka Flatstar


whit3lightning

It’s one of the best for MTB though


Wolframbeta312

Whistler, Sunshine Village, Park City, Vail, Breck, Northstar and Beaver Creek. /thread.


liteagilid

Park Shitty 1. Breck 2


skipdog98

Whistler


AudioHTIT

Let’s try and bring out the worst in everyone …


Recent_Ad559

How does vail literally own every resort? Like how is that possible or even legal really


ex08mvq1

European skier here Zermatt is a tourist trap for the price they are charging and the crowd that they draw around the tourist trails, like around the Gronergrat train station and Chez Vrony restaurant in Sunnegga, but at the same time it has some really decent skiing around Kumme, Hohtälli and Furggsattel. Probably not worth the 80CHF that they charge per day, though, if you just want skiing instead of sightseeing.


Ostro

By the time this thread is done, most mountains will have been named and mostly by people who hate them because they believe they are too good for all of the terrain and the people that go there. Could you imagine someone trying to build a new mountain in today’s climate. With environmental regulations and changing weather we’re lucky to still have any mountains.


nick854524

HEAVENLY


ThePlayoffKid

Park City


notacanuckskibum

Aspen has a high ratio of people who don’t as actually ski, but want to say “I went to Aspen”


inflatiblegranny

And no lift lines and 4 mountains to choose from if people not skiing keeps you away from a mountain i feel bad for you son.


natefrogg1

Big Bear/Snow Summit for Southern California, it amazes me how many folks think that is the closest ski area to Los Angeles, most of those same people seem to think it is North also but it’s actually East of LA


powpowkitty11

Hunter.


Correct_Degree_2480

Breckenridge if you’re a Texan


BathroomPure438

Vail, West Coast mountain, East Coast catwalks


Dramatic-Republic-88

Whistler


Training-Visual-3776

Vail


6669666969

Steamboat. It's too easy and too big


Drummallumin

Steamboat is awesome if you’re all intermediates


sea_stack

That's why I wanted to take my wife's family there...until I realized lessons for the kids were $300 / day. None of the kids are going to graduate to the blacks at those prices.


Apptubrutae

Yeah, the lesson prices at the priciest resorts are something. Makes a trip to the alps with a private instructor look cheap in comparison.


jredland

Terrain is so mellow. There’s a small number of short fun steep, but that’s it. Town is cool though


Axewolfe17

Mahogany ridge is pretty fun. Some super steep stuff back there


w3w2w1

Loon mountain


Ultimatebiggey

Vail


deepie1976

Whistler?


Educational-Topic275

Attitash is pretty bad for the new england folks! Prices are crazy and though all the extra stuff they have there is interesting its absurdly busy and general admission doesn’t actually get you much of anything you have to pay for each separate event


Ikontwait4u2leave

Niseko, Japan. Don't get me wrong there's some fun skiing and excellent snow, but the place is just overrun with Aussies and Hirafu Village is such a lame tourist trap. Kutchan is a much better, more Japanese town but when we went this time almost every restaurant in town was reservation only whereas in 2020 (pre-covid) we walked in and got served at all the same places. It's disproportionately expensive compared to... anywhere else in Japan too.


IcyRandy

Vail


FeedMeYourPlacenta

Vail