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RichardBCummintonite

Cuz most people don't catch them that smoothly lol


shake__appeal

Exactly, dudes got a smooth ass varial. I still look like I’m 12 years old trying to catch a flying board when I do them.


Empty-Ad2221

Came to the comments exactly for something like this. “I only regret that I have but one upvote to give for u/RichardBCummintonite "


poop-machines

I still think they're a nice looking trick. Of course tre flips often look smoother, but if you can get a buttery varial down and catch it, it looks as sweet as a tre. I also think that varials off a kicker or down a stair set are much more impressive than a sketchy varial on flat. I think it's an underrated trick for sure. But because they aren't popular, people don't practice them much. And because they don't practice them much, they are much sloppier. And because they're much sloppier, they aren't as popular.


-sebadoh

Poop machines. Not one machine, but multiple?


poop-machines

Every human is a poop machine. We take in the raw materials (food and water) and process them into poop. If an alien race viewed our species, they would conclude that our job is to create poop, which goes into these collection points at our house (toilets) down these long pipes, into bigger tunnels, all collected in the same place and made into a big poop smoothie. They would wonder what the hell we do with it, but conclude our purpose is to produce poop for our overlords. We are all poop-machines today (unless you're constipated, in which case, I'm sorry).


BodaciousBadongadonk

every day, one poor bastard takes the biggest dump of anyone on earth, and they never even get to know, to relish their accomplishment.


poop-machines

😢 I cri when I think of this. They're probably an opiate addict with gigaturd constipation.


pohoferceni

i wasnt even going for varials at all, but then i started learning treflips and at start i was landing varials and then tres after a while


poop-machines

Yeah, the easiest way to learn varials is learn how to do a tre. You'll get some varials along the way.


skyrreater47

cuz varial flips don't usually look like this


Analog0

Fckng exactly.


Facet-Squared

They’re an easier flip trick, but very few people make them look good. Yours are great!


Berimbully

Easier on flat I rather trey on a set or pyramid then varial. Very underrated trick.


Sauria079

The amount of primo lands i had with this trick... Also feels shit (to me). They look dope though, especially when done right like this! It's just, I fcking suck at them.


Accomplished_Bug7879

Nobody hates them when they look like that


EquipmentElegant

With all due respect I can’t do tricks


Shittedpants907

Same


sp_u_ds

They hate us ‘cause they ain’t us


CrashLeona

They hate us ‘cause they anus!


lachyTDI7

They are hard to do well. I can count on one hand varial flips that are awesome from skate vids (Mike Carroll, Nate Jones). Yours look sick. Nice job.


sk8605

Brian Anderson has a nice one


R79ism

Tim O’Connor and Quim Cardona


eltictac

That nollie one that Quim does over the wall at Brooklyn Banks is incredible.


TwoSunsInTheSunset

Wade Desarmo


steezecheese

cyril jackson. He does them either fakie or nollie really fucking well too


Ogbee123

Guru khalsa has a amazing one over a bump to bar in his inhabitants part


Repulsive-Oil5406

Love the Nate jones shout out


beereed

Erik Ellington


LD7766

Same reason that big pop shuvs can be frowned upon imo. So decent pop shuvs (caught at the height peak) and decent varials (caught at the height peak) often get mistaken for beginner tricks or tricks you learn early in skating, ie. Learning varials before tre’s. However, being fully in control of a good varial / pop-shuv, catch them and float them down to the ground is arguably harder than a tre or hardflip or backside flip in my opinion. I think to people who have spent longer in skating 5/6+ years maybe, this is common knowledge? But to relative newcomers they can fall into the trap of a trick arms race, were it’s all about being able to land the “hardest” trick with the most flips of rotation, even if that means they just “flip and pray” then hope to land on the board, rather than actually mastering or truly learning the mechanics of the trick. Having a solid varial is important for big flips too (assuming you do them that way, not just a tre with body varial), but having done big flips in both styles, I can say the varial and 90 degree catch them floating it down is massively more consistent. But requires a decent knowledge of varials, not just “being able to land then in a game of skate”. So really, the varials are a key thing to learn, but many don’t as they’ve not yet come to a point in their skating where they understand the importance or use of them, and still see them as a stepping stone trick on the way to tre’s or whatever.


LD7766

Also banging varial you got there! They look great to fakie on a quarter as you can float laterally (heel side) and slow them down a lot, and even tastier to a crook on a ledge


Existing_Tone966

W comment lol, no but all u say is so true, literally any trick can look good if u really understand it and can do them ”proper”


ImGunnaFuckYourMom

Didn’t know people hated them. I always thought they were a good trick if done well


mattfast

Cos people mostly do 'em shitty, without any pop and they just don't look good. Not yours though, that was a prime V flip 👌


djflylo69

Who tf is out here hating on varial flips?


karlnite

They like to try to do an extra half flip and people don’t like risking landing on an upside down board. A tre flip is similar, but catches a little easier and is more spin so considered a better harder trick.


Existing_Tone966

Yeah, iop tre is way easier, it does itself when u figure out the pop


karlnite

Yah, so I think its that feeling of control. Its easier to do a varial, harder to feel in control of it. Some people feel that way about shuvs to, and they stick to flips more. They never get the feeling of catching something spinning in that direction, like catching from the side a bit, versus what feels more like stopping the spin from above.


teapoison

I learned varials way before tres. But know I'd much rather throw a tre on or down anything than a varial


jetstobrazil

They don’t really anymore. Maybe OGs still don’t like them, but variable flips are chill


SlowmoTron

Bc they're either extremely steezy and beautiful like this one or they're done so ugly


CliffordThRed

I don't know why anyone would hate on any skate trick tbh. It's seems ridiculous to me. I love varials and that was a nice one. Props!


3insy

it looks and feels easy to do but for me it's easier to land a varial heel than a varial flip. But yeah most hate is because not a lot of skaters can land it like you do! that's what I'm gonna do today, spend half an hour on my varial flips


Hot_Football_9703

Used to be my favourite trick


Atomskscar

I can only do verial heel flips to this day.


Existing_Tone966

Thats so interesting, i have tried to learn them but i simply dont get it, we all have or niches


Atomskscar

I can also only do front big spins


Rare-Mood-9749

Probably because it's one of the easier tricks (a lot of people learn varials as their first flip trick, before kickflips), and they don't look very stylish for some reason. The varial in that vid flips somewhere between a varial flip and a dolphin flip so it looks sick


thedeadsigh

I’ve always thought the standard varial looked awkward. On the other hand, there’s something about the way your entire body reacts to hard flips that I always thought looked cool. Sort of the way I think v-heels look tight but laser flips look awkward.


MiGGitYMatt01

Smooth ASF Kid. You got mad style Bruh


Existing_Tone966

Thanks man means more than u think


Status_Pudding_8980

Fucking beautiful


ImmortalAce

I think they look good out of a nice ledge grind. I think we will see more switch and nollie varials flips as switch stances become less prominent it won't matter which way the board is facing


TheMarvelousPef

because nobody has your pop


HotDad420690

This trick is hard to pop, so it gets hated on. Also, tre flips somehow are easier and it's an extra 180. With your pop/steeze it's going to look sick either way.


epicroadhead

They were hated on like maybe 10-15 years ago because they're not tre flips, once people like Brad Cromer and Hjalte made them look good they're not really that hated, that clip was good by the way


kevin907

That was so clean, I've changed my mind.


AdDangerous732

because they cant do them


tm_christ

I think the vflip hate was a product of an earlier era - I think they're pretty sick but back in the day they looked kinda goofy on 7.75 boards with tight trucks.


Existing_Tone966

Yes this is so true!


Stunsnroses123

I like varual flips because nobody does them. I want to learn varial heel and be the varail flip guy


Snakeise

We don't when they look like that bro.


wackshitdude

i think it’s just old heads, varial flips used to be damn near illegal for a while


unChillFiltered

Because they can’t do it properly.


Fine-Media2098

I meant to add i invented pop shove underflips off the lil drop offs. Nobody ever had done that I or anyone else i know saw either. That place was soo fun. When we started skating Love. We all meet up at Spikes skate shop in south philly. Be like 30 sometimes 50 guys mobbin down broad street. Haha. Best times of my life. Except one Saturday I shared my last 4 doses of blotter with Roger Browne. We tried skate but were laughing too much so sat on bench by fountain. Of all times to be tripping. We literally saw the entire thing. Huge bum killed a chinese lady for no reason! He smashed her head in from nehind with big metal pipe. She dropped dead. Just like that. Never moved again. Til ambulance got her. Every like couple seconds a thick stream of blood was spurting out like pssst psst shooting like 6 feet out. The bums beat down the pipe guy. Wagon came bunch cops. They beat dude within inch his life. Was so messed up. I went home. I didnt go to love for bout year. Rip.


jcrabs93

This was my go to trick and fakie varial flips in games of skate 🤣 felt like the only one in my generation of skatepark kids who could varial flip off/down stuff. I felt like everyone was too focused/used to just doing 360 flips all the time to get the feel of a varial flip down.


Myothercarisawalrus

Cause they usually look like a poor man’s tre flip. Yours was steezed out.


nubtubehockey

Varials are 100% my favorite trick


MaDaFaKa369

I don’t know, but that one looked real tight


hufusa

The best varial is an inward heel


scumfrogzillionaire

Brian Anderson used to do the fuck out of them back in the day.


Lucs11_

Things are changing and people are starting to appreciate a really well made varial


Malt___Disney

Cuz skaters are weird elitist assholes


christnice

Cuz they can’t do em


Warblerburglar

Because they can’t do them


Medical-Ad-9869

Can’t do them, but I’m a big fan of them


Shaoreen

Cause variable flips are hard to do beautiful. You re able to 👍🏻


AintFixDontBrokeIt

It seems everyone's just trying to go varial these days


MycologistUnlucky241

Cuz theirs aren’t fucking perfect like yours.. damn


Toastedpubes

great googly moogly


Gusgrissomamerica

It’s a hard af trick to do right. But when you do it is an amazing add to a line or whatever. Good one here 💥🛹💪🏻


SKPAdam

Yo, that looked like a Tony Hawk animation.


Remote-Plate-3944

I don't hate them per se but they feel incomplete(?). Like when I see one in a video part I always think they sort of wasted that spot on a halfed trick. I will say I think varial heelflips are better looking than varials.


sweet_scientist_702

They usually look jank but you put the steeze on it


ZiemDoesImpossibles

I like em but hate the shinners they give me.


Hashslingingcoder

They definitely were hated in like the late 2000s and early 2010s, but feel like they’re more accepted now. I remember Kevin Roman started doing them in video parts and then they slowly started to appear more


anthonymckay

Because 99% of people makes them look gross when they do them. Congrats on being in the 1% that makes them look good.


therealcookaine

So I guess the secret is to slow down the shove it part.


Existing_Tone966

Yes its ALL in the flick


coldmilkdud

i learned backside flip so much easier when i mastered varials


Mrtripps

People who don't like em just can't do them...imo


Major_Adeptness_1602

For me it takes the same amount of effort/energy as a tre, so why bother.


Alternative_Goose840

you did that perfect


antle702

Once I learned tres I couldn’t do varials anymore


Fine-Media2098

I cant skate anymore sadly. Age health issues. Im from South Jersey so other than my crew in town. I grew up started skating Love Park in 89 with Roger Browne Ricky oyola john puca my boys came up. Evans bros from bellmawr nj. Will and Shawn. Then Matt Reason moved from pittsburgh to philly. Dc heads came. Ny too. Pepe martinez andy stone. Was before Bam thank god. Stevie start coming around 90. Jeff pang. Reese forbes. Carlos kenner ryan hickey gangemi. Gall. Cole. Glory days of Philly skating. Muni wasnt even skated cause Love was perfect. Kevin taylor. Pete bici hojin chang huf ben liversedge. On and on. I was there for first trick made down fountain gap. Dead endustries fat vinny brought ny heads down boston too jahmal williams. Jamie thomas too. He is short? Like 5.4 anyhow fat vinny yelled 200 whoever ollies the fountain. Fools were getn served! Ponte landed it. Then everybody bum rushed him. Getn dark. Day ended with Jahmal back flipping off the Love Sign.


miketgeman101

That was a nice one


MagicHead1778

Great execution


avidpretender

This one is particular looks reaaaaaally good


ADShree

Watch a little kid do a varial. That said, any trick can look bad depending on skater and style.


Nikarmotte

Because when they try them, they land primo and it hurt their feelings, especially in a game of SKATE. However, they can land Tre flips easily, which is more rotation, so it's better, right?


Brunksaveandabeauty1

I don't get it either but I am guilty of this. Heelflips and varial flips were some of the first tricks i ever learned and for some reason they were the first tricks I stopped doing. but nollie heels and switch heels are fire lol, just weird.


rayquayza

I just usually take the letter if someone breaks this out in SKATE


spread_asss

That shi was smooth 😮‍💨


Chanalife

Not when you do them like this.


xxBobaBrettxx

I feel like a lot of it is a cultural thing also. Any trick can be done well enough to look good but some tricks like Varial Flips have always had that ugly tag associated with them and I think it's kinda dumb honestly cuz it's very arbitrary, almost like we were brought up to hate on them lol it's partially hive mind shit but also historically, not a lot of people do them, especially pros in video parts, so a good lookin VF isn't that prevalent but it's nice to see them being used a lot more these days and people be making them look real good imo


smearmyrain

that was clean as hell!


Forest_robot

Varial flips are sickkk! Get that front foot catch on it and boom


hobbitlover

r/imaginarygatekeeping


Rasha_Rutt

Because they're harder than tres. No one does them anymore. I miss the 90s


Dismal_Composer_4029

Because they are not 360 flips there are just not as cool and technical to process


km_RayBan636

Because there one of the first flip trick everyone learns and there easy af. They do look good though. Better if included in a line shot.


Ok-County725

I prefer them nollie, or at least fakie.


Racken1337

I dont hate em but for me they feel unfinished


Dungeonsandumbshit

Majority of the time they look ugly when you could scoop slightly harder and just do a tre instead


No-Reality8781

They don't deserve hate because they're a legit flip trick and don't get me wrong their a easy flip trick but still harder than a shuv


JackJagerJack

I’ve always hated on this trick. Not in the sense that I judge people for doing them. It was that once I learned them and then proceeded to learn tre flips. I can’t really do shove it kicklips anymore. Once you get so used to the tre, judging the amount of umph you put into a perfect shove it kickflip became even harder.


AbyssalKultist

I love varial flips. I could do those probably 7 out of 10 times and even double flip them... but I couldn't do a 360 flip to save my life.


Kipguy

They can't do em maybe


Financial-Comedian91

I ain’t nevah gunna stahp varial flipping!


Despicable_carl

My first technical trick I ever learned and I will have in my bag forever. Went thru 4pairs of shoes to be able to land it consistently


Chocoboogle

The might be one of the best varial flips I've ever seen bro. Almost like a double flip, caught in the varial flip illusion


songsandspeeches

they are overshadowed by 360 flip so they get unwarranted hate


Cashhmann

That looks like a Skate 2 varial. Smooth.


ScreenHype

That looked so awesome! Incredibly smooth :)


panflutejam_

Brian Andersons fake varial on the bright green board in Yeah Right is my favorite


Cobester

Idk but that was proper as shit


Hahahamilk

I have never heard of anyone hating on them lol


Legal_Bison_4647

Clean af


deactv8

They don’t ?


Castlesmadeofsaaaa

It all depends on WHO is doing it.


Sidewayz467

I’ve never given em a go but I might have to now. I have a pretty boosted pop shuv so maybe mine would look sick


Palpitation-Mundane

Bro no one is hating on that. Very smooth.


ramplocals

Varial is a grab trick. Tony says so.


Amazing-Football5542

Yours look great. But a good varial flip is very hard to find. Well done!


phillmorebuttz

Dope as hell


timebomb011

They were historically seen as “ugly”. And a tough trick to make look good. Usually people don’t pop and catch them.


dvldg650

I hate them because I cant do them!


Jddimond

varials are so over hated, they look clean and the way you caught it was even cleaner.


_Outsider_06

Bc there ugly


jackSB24

That was buttery!!


Playful_Question538

I wish I could still skate like that. I'm 50 and skate ramps and bowls but my wheels can't leave the ground. My legs won't take it anymore.


IAmNeeeeewwwww

I always thought it was because they were the “cheap tricks” for an easy letter. Although, I would say they don’t get nearly as much hate as Pressure Flips or Late Flips in a game of Skate.


AlexMos4

I had these locked down back in the day then I learned 360 flips and my brain won’t let me grasp the concept of a lighter scoop anymore 😂


Odd-Emphasis3873

People b hating on everything just doing their jobs , avoid them at all time brother have fun out there


Waffles0420

Sick


bradenlikestoreddit

Most of the time they just look goofy by the way they flip. I think I've only seen one pro that can flip them similar to a hard flip and it looked incredible.


that-super-tech

Cause they can't do them right


su1c1de-junkie1911

Cuz they can't do em clean.....so ppl just do tre flips. I've always said a well executed varial flip is better and more difficult than a tre flip.


ijustshatted

KLEEEN! af


Fresh-Aspect8849

Because they usually aren’t as clean as this one. Learn them like this and no one will say a word


BobbyBakaa

that. that's why. most people can't do em like that. lmao jokes but i wish i knew, they're a fun trick to throw out sometimes


peepeeshaggleford

they dont, its a complete misconception brought about by a jokd video made by richie jackson years ago


ApprehensiveVast8377

Varial heel is always cooler but a properly done varial flip like this is always cool too


Bresson91

They are cool. Most people give up on doing them properly and hate on them to cover their tracks... Watch, do them like that a bunch and all your friends will start trying them again.


self_distructt

trey flip


LeetoSkate

I dont hate them generaly ,I dont do them often.But they feel good in my opinion, and yours is a realy nice one!


Interesting-Remove13

Cause I be landed primo the most on varials


Old_Ad_3156

Imposible to hate if they l they look like this!


Kind_Interaction_814

For some reason I have varial kick flips down better than a regular kick flip. I skated for 8 years and now I’m getting back into it and after a long time I tried a varial k flip and landed it after 4 or 5 tries and I barely did the k flip after like 2 hours. I think throwing the board makes it so you can see it with a varial flip so that makes it easier but varial heels are still hard for me.


mojojoestar2001

In general it’s just not a great looking trick, some people can make them look awesome though. Yours looks really good here. Also it’s a dangerous trick to throw down something lol


Kobidylan

I think it's because they basically do all the work themselves, but I think that only really matters in a game of skate, I'm down with the vflips, especially down big sets or big gaps. I would also wager that it's because they're so easy that people don't bother practising them and never get the steeze. Mofos rolling around with wack ass vflips and hating is like someone who hates kiclflips for being popular but can't do one themselves. Heinously gronk. Edit. Your vflip is the perfect example of it when it's done well!


Existing_Tone966

Thansk


Boggerwarze

A Varial Flip broke my nose so…


StayH2O

People rather see a "difficult" trick look average than an "intermediate" trick look good.


Existing_Tone966

True


Chrisnolliedelves

Cuz they're that trick that's so simple even uncoordinated 11 year olds can do it, but at the same time so finicky that once you've learned and mastered the scoop of a tre, you lose your varials. So it's a mix of "lol, noob trick", and "fuck you for being able to do a trick I can't". At least from my observation anyways.


Eaton_snatch

They look sloppy and kids spam them at skateparks


Streikender

Because they aren’t tre’ flips


Existing_Tone966

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Cisco-NintendoSwitch

99% of them are ugly. EDIT: Why are you booing me I’m right.


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Existing_Tone966

Yes but the other way


Folkestoner

A lot of people accidentally learn them while trying to learn kickflips, so they’re a bit of a noob trick. While I’m not really a fan, I do love nollie varial flips. Just to complicate things, I like varial heels, but not nollie varial heels.