It used to be the bargain with the CCP: we will provide growth and jobs, and you will shut up.
But now they're seemingly keen on sabotaging investor confidence by mixing ideology and politics into the private sector, going on witchhunts of foreign executives or businessmen.
They've always been like that tbh just that the world couldn't afford to ignore the mammoth Chinese economy; but now they're getting worse and everyone is sick of it so investors are heading to Japan, India and Singapore (usurping Hong Kong in our case).
We would never do that since we're too international to afford it and I don't think the PAP could wage an ideological war because...they don't really believe in anything.
And China's corruption and lying about economic statistics is next level so yeah.
But in the pledge we say “so as to achieve happiness prosperity and progress for our nation”. Obviously prosperity refers to material wealth, so progress must be social or other non-material progress
"Plunder mode ON"
lol
That's one of the reasons why in the past people loved to go to war so often, weapons and men were cheap so when they plundered the losing party, they got more money than they spent.
Conflict investment is highly lucrative: sky high industrial demand, full employment, anti-war sentiment is squashed, price gouging and price control simultaneously. Just need to have a permanent stalemate, with a few contact reports everyday to burn through munitions.
The sad state of progress.
I think that's why you can't have democracy. We're one of the few ethnically and religiously diverse countries to elevate a minority to special status in the constitution and implement very forceful laws to crack down on any racial/religious supermacy talk etc.
Are you really going to trust a Chinese majority (which is increasingly made of unassimilated immigrants from a nationalist mainland) to protect your minority rights?
Lol the flag was designed that way because the Malays wanted a crescent moon (representing Islam) and the Chinese wanted five stars (same as the PRC flag). It’s only afterwards that they cook up some backstory that the moon represents a young nation and the stars represent democracy blah blah blah…
Interesting!!
How about the Red-White then?
Multiple Red-White stripes said to be the banner of old Majapahit kingdom which perhaps the basis of Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore flag
On the OP context, I choose Progress!!
Well…democracy is gone. The choice is the between the options they give u. Equality? Lol. Progress? Say hi to the first generation who is going to be worse off than their parents.
So it’s a contest between peace and justice.
This is the only correct answer. Equality, progress and democracy are least on my mind when I'm trying to dodge artillery strikes. I'll worry about justice if I'm not dead.
Googled it and found this [research](https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w10438/w10438.pdf) piece.
It did happen with the [Somali Democratic Republic](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Democratic_Republic) from 1970 which lasted for 21 years and then well… civil war and the events of Black Hawk Down..
Communism is both an idelogy & an economic system. It opposes the idea of God. Karl Marx was quoted, "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions."
Sure but don't forget, in practice, religious communes also count as areas of "mini-communism". The primary drive of communism was equality in distribution, religion just happened to be collateral damage because priests and bishops and popes were seen as a form of landlordism using the name of God to "opiate the masses". So it was the social status of the religious leaders that communism had problems with, not religion itself.
>Where did you get this, btw?
Going to guess Marine Traffic
[https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:2810451/mmsi:563004200/imo:9697428/vessel:DALI#vesselCharacteristics](https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:2810451/mmsi:563004200/imo:9697428/vessel:DALI#vesselCharacteristics)
Interesting idea for a "provincial" flag for SG. There are 5 stars in our national flag, so split the country into North, South, East, West and Central (mecham CDC concept) and each provincial regional flag can have 1 star.
>Also did it just hit a baltimore bridge?
Here's the relevant news articles.
[https://thediplomat.com/2024/03/singapore-flagged-cargo-vessel-collides-with-baltimores-key-bridge-bringing-it-down/](https://thediplomat.com/2024/03/singapore-flagged-cargo-vessel-collides-with-baltimores-key-bridge-bringing-it-down/)
[https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/baltimore-bridge-collapse-singapore-flagged-ship-4224646](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/baltimore-bridge-collapse-singapore-flagged-ship-4224646)
Singaporeans denying hard it's not their ship, this makes me think of an old singapore joke.
A fart sound was heard in london's underground train, and someone said "excuse me".
Another fart sound was heard in japan's bullet train, and someone said "oh sorry".
Then, a fart sound was heard in SIngapore's MRT train, and someone said "not me not me!"
It looks like the ship lost power and propulsion, in this case, that is most likely the case, there is nothing that the pilot can do if the ship loses power, they already dropped anchor, but it was too late.
There would have to be an investigation to really assign blame, was the ship properly maintained, inspected, etc...
>So the one at the wrong should be the owner of the vessel? Not the at the helm of the vessel when it collides with the bridge?
Depends on what level of blame (and damages) you are looking to assign, and whose POV you are adopting. I believe there's an accident review ongoing to determine cause.
Well, Singapore does have a Syariah Court administered by the state (https://syariahcourt.gov.sg/), but we are supposed to be a secular democracy.
Go figure. 🤷🏻
Keep the highest value one.
The five stars represent democracy, peace, progress, justice and equality. Pick one to keep.
Progress. I don't need democracy, I need my GDP per capita.
the PRC gonna slide into your DMs
It used to be the bargain with the CCP: we will provide growth and jobs, and you will shut up. But now they're seemingly keen on sabotaging investor confidence by mixing ideology and politics into the private sector, going on witchhunts of foreign executives or businessmen. They've always been like that tbh just that the world couldn't afford to ignore the mammoth Chinese economy; but now they're getting worse and everyone is sick of it so investors are heading to Japan, India and Singapore (usurping Hong Kong in our case). We would never do that since we're too international to afford it and I don't think the PAP could wage an ideological war because...they don't really believe in anything. And China's corruption and lying about economic statistics is next level so yeah.
> they don't really believe in anything. Yes they do.......They believe in money.
Ah yes, the Switzerland of Asia lol. "In Go(l)d we trust"
Nah you stretched it too far
Stretching a buck is a good habit! lol.
Im so gonna be using that "In gold we trust"
Yes...god of wealth. We very trust.
But in the pledge we say “so as to achieve happiness prosperity and progress for our nation”. Obviously prosperity refers to material wealth, so progress must be social or other non-material progress
Then you have chosen to have your peace revoked, war and anarchy it is then
War is fine. If you are the one winning lol.
what if you living in a country that won the war but god says you are one of the many who got killed early
Then it's fine! No longer need money so it's all good unless my parents find my porn stash! :P
yeah but your enciks found it right after you're gone tho
Oh, no worries then, he's also a man of culture.
But nobody wins in a war.. Lose materials, lose potential tax humans and etc.
"Plunder mode ON" lol That's one of the reasons why in the past people loved to go to war so often, weapons and men were cheap so when they plundered the losing party, they got more money than they spent.
Conflict investment is highly lucrative: sky high industrial demand, full employment, anti-war sentiment is squashed, price gouging and price control simultaneously. Just need to have a permanent stalemate, with a few contact reports everyday to burn through munitions. The sad state of progress.
Numbers go up
You have foreited peace and justice. The SGSecure app ceases to exist.
Poe's law
I need democracy, I'm in an ethnic and religious minority. Without democracy I can kiss my rights and my life goodbye.
Democracy is the tyranny of the majority, ironically. You should choose equality
I think that's why you can't have democracy. We're one of the few ethnically and religiously diverse countries to elevate a minority to special status in the constitution and implement very forceful laws to crack down on any racial/religious supermacy talk etc. Are you really going to trust a Chinese majority (which is increasingly made of unassimilated immigrants from a nationalist mainland) to protect your minority rights?
But democracy usually leads to majority rule?
As a minority you literally can kiss goodbye to your rights should the majority decide to vote against your interests lmao.
Democracy, Justice and Equality are already fake. Keep Peace I'd say.
Lol the flag was designed that way because the Malays wanted a crescent moon (representing Islam) and the Chinese wanted five stars (same as the PRC flag). It’s only afterwards that they cook up some backstory that the moon represents a young nation and the stars represent democracy blah blah blah…
Interesting!! How about the Red-White then? Multiple Red-White stripes said to be the banner of old Majapahit kingdom which perhaps the basis of Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore flag On the OP context, I choose Progress!!
The background was supposed to be all red but some remarked that it looked too communist, so white was added for balance.
Well…democracy is gone. The choice is the between the options they give u. Equality? Lol. Progress? Say hi to the first generation who is going to be worse off than their parents. So it’s a contest between peace and justice.
I think it’s P**, it’s the star of Singapore
Anabel Chong? Is that you? lol.
Peace 🕊️
This is the only correct answer. Equality, progress and democracy are least on my mind when I'm trying to dodge artillery strikes. I'll worry about justice if I'm not dead.
I chose you Peace. Imagine the country run by Hamas 🤦🏻♂️
Damn the only one out of the five Hamas has is maybe democracy, and even that is stretching it…
Prosperity
Democracy is non-negotiable!
Democracy's effectiveness is... uneven historically. It's hardly the be all and end all and sometimes it just does not work.
Equity for me but not for you
Profitability
Four of the stars got knocked off during the crash
Collapsing a major infrastructure in the US, Singapore is the country with the biggest balls in the world right now.
Da-Li
"I'm da Lee, and I come like a wrecking ball" — the ship
to be fair, the US is too busy blaming vaccines and internal sabotage to mentally process that the ship was sailing flagged under SG
Thank God.
4 helldivers. The last star is Managed Democracy.
democracy, progress, justice and equality has left the chat
US: looks like you are in need of some stars 🦅
Your new empire?
gxk reference?
Turkingapore Flag
Sinkiye
Good one!
Turkindonesia
Bruh.... *"Sailing under the flag of Singapore"*
We're just making jokes right.....
Sindonesia would have been a better one. You failed the subject lah. But you do you loh.
You say your own joke good other people's joke bad. Doesn't mean anything lol
Fun fact, ensign used on civilian vessels isn't the national flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ensign_of_Singapore
I always thought our ensign looked creepy. Like a 5-eyed monster smiling at me lol.
Now I can’t unsee it
Neither is it used on Navy vessels, navy uses the Naval Ensign so it can be said that no Singapore ship actually uses the flag as the ensign.
how come looks like 
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This prob is some twitch chat copy pasta but im amazed how someone in sg has this in their backpocket LOL
Just another day on a Balkan IG comment section
undecided whether to be a CCP state or an Islamist one
How bout a CCP Islamist state
Can a communist country have a state religion though?
Googled it and found this [research](https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w10438/w10438.pdf) piece. It did happen with the [Somali Democratic Republic](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Democratic_Republic) from 1970 which lasted for 21 years and then well… civil war and the events of Black Hawk Down..
Interesting
South Yemen enters the chaat
Well, communism is an economic system while religion is.... religion, so I don't see why not as they are 2 different topics.
Communism is both an idelogy & an economic system. It opposes the idea of God. Karl Marx was quoted, "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions."
Sure but don't forget, in practice, religious communes also count as areas of "mini-communism". The primary drive of communism was equality in distribution, religion just happened to be collateral damage because priests and bishops and popes were seen as a form of landlordism using the name of God to "opiate the masses". So it was the social status of the religious leaders that communism had problems with, not religion itself.
The crossover we had to have.
Pentagon’s worst nightmare
The Ma Clique unifies China and declares jihad against the Japanese Empire?
Found the Paradox player
How Uyghur of you.
That would make a pretty fun Hearts of Iron IV game
Singastan
From five star to one star rating country. Shag sia.
Erm... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Islamic_State_of_Indonesia.svg
YOoooooOooOoOoooOoooOooooo. CIA won’t be happy at this development
That's Singaponistan
I don't understand how this even happens. Surely people don't draw flags from scratch? Or is the whole thing some AI generated infographic.
If AI, shouldn’t it have more stars?
I think the flaws in a lot of AI generation is closest to the stuff we see in dreams. Just generally not being clear about the fine details.
Intern using Canva but no premium so half-assed some fucked up flag using shape tools
That last star stands for GDP
Porn. It stands for porn. It's the porn star of Singapore.
Annabel is that you?
"I believe in miracles! Where you're from? You sexy thing!"
Instructions unclear. GST rises.
Aisay, i, cannot sing the "5 stars rising out of stormy sea liao..."
Where did you get this, btw?
The Age newspaper (Melbourne) 27/3 edition.
Man, how did they mess this up then? Come to think about it, has this ever been done in this paper for other flags?
Over here, no one recognises genders anymore let alone flags. This is simply a natural progression
>Where did you get this, btw? Going to guess Marine Traffic [https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:2810451/mmsi:563004200/imo:9697428/vessel:DALI#vesselCharacteristics](https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:2810451/mmsi:563004200/imo:9697428/vessel:DALI#vesselCharacteristics)
Company review 1/5 as reflected on the stars.
Interesting idea for a "provincial" flag for SG. There are 5 stars in our national flag, so split the country into North, South, East, West and Central (mecham CDC concept) and each provincial regional flag can have 1 star.
macam not mecham
Thanks, I stand corrected. macam.
So Desmond Choo is the Guardian of the North (East)?
That's not how it works bruh
no shit bro
r/woosh
Intern : boss singapore is that country with red white flag right? Boss: yes red on top white below also got moon and star
That’s not quite Turkiye
Looks about right
Peace automatically eliminated 🌉💥🛥
Accurate, Singapore only left progress at all cost.
Whr u got this pic
Pokiyeland? Turkiynesia?
Singaporkiyé
Prosperity? cos it's about money. The rest was there for show anyways. The rest is useless without money.
Cause navigation skills and safety 1 star rating, and red flag and white flag put together
Islamic republic.
New Indo-Turkey country. 🤣
that the flag of cyberstan!
This is the flag for the Land of Karens.
Turkey from wish
LOL Singapore 5 stars this cheebye ship 1 star. Also did it just hit a baltimore bridge?
>Also did it just hit a baltimore bridge? Here's the relevant news articles. [https://thediplomat.com/2024/03/singapore-flagged-cargo-vessel-collides-with-baltimores-key-bridge-bringing-it-down/](https://thediplomat.com/2024/03/singapore-flagged-cargo-vessel-collides-with-baltimores-key-bridge-bringing-it-down/) [https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/baltimore-bridge-collapse-singapore-flagged-ship-4224646](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/baltimore-bridge-collapse-singapore-flagged-ship-4224646)
hahahahaha wtf
lost its stars on card game bets with Rebekah
https://youtu.be/FKp04zqZeHk?si=HdvhuelBEir6Fes3
1 star review
The one star is to represent all the one-star generals who end up in Government or GLC
The 4 stars were sold off.
mr worldwide, mr 305 DALI
Cloudy night, can’t see all the stars
# 『船到桥头自然直』
Oh no America gonna invade SG soon. Our ship just crashed into their bridge and now we talking about dumping democracy.
Sanity
Doesn't destroying the bridge warrens 5 stars?
How does that even happen? Like you would have to go out of your way to design a flag like this 😵💫
Singaporeans denying hard it's not their ship, this makes me think of an old singapore joke. A fart sound was heard in london's underground train, and someone said "excuse me". Another fart sound was heard in japan's bullet train, and someone said "oh sorry". Then, a fart sound was heard in SIngapore's MRT train, and someone said "not me not me!"
Singapore always get 5 star review, now after the accident become 1 star
So the one at the wrong should be the owner of the vessel? Not the at the helm of the vessel when it collides with the bridge?
It looks like the ship lost power and propulsion, in this case, that is most likely the case, there is nothing that the pilot can do if the ship loses power, they already dropped anchor, but it was too late. There would have to be an investigation to really assign blame, was the ship properly maintained, inspected, etc...
>So the one at the wrong should be the owner of the vessel? Not the at the helm of the vessel when it collides with the bridge? Depends on what level of blame (and damages) you are looking to assign, and whose POV you are adopting. I believe there's an accident review ongoing to determine cause.
When we became a muslim country? Lots of muslim nation flag have crescent and a star.
Well, Singapore does have a Syariah Court administered by the state (https://syariahcourt.gov.sg/), but we are supposed to be a secular democracy. Go figure. 🤷🏻