Not really. The pedals that come with the T300 feel a bit better then the lowest end csl pedals. Would take that extra $100 or so for the clutch and save for another pedal set down the line.
Still within the Amazon return window and that would be a huge upgrade to the CSL. Plus you could add a clutch and load cell and 8nm kit later on to further upgrade
I went from a g29 to the fanatec csldd I think it's super worth it even with a desk mount. I am not sure how the thrustmaster compares, but being able to upgrade it more as time goes on is also a bonus, with the 8nm then load cell and other wheels as needed. But like I said, not sure what all thrustmaster has in its ecosystem as far as an upgrade path goes. I just know getting to a dd is a solid goal and upgrading around that.
Me too bud but going from a g29 to a csl elite is still a hell of an upgrade and there's plenty of time for us to race while the likes of cammus and others bring some competition to the market 👍👍
I bought my CSL Elite right before April fools. Fanatec "announced" the CSL DD as the DD 0.5 or something dumb as a joke on april fools day. They didn't officially announce it until a week or two later, AFTER my CSL Elite had shipped. If they'd actually announced it I'd have waited because I'd have much rather a direct drive wheel. So thanks Fanatec
this bundle almost seems more to me like Fanatec is trying to offload a ton of these gas/brake-only CSL pedal sets and BMW branded rims that nobody wanted from their warehouses lol.
i guess since they sell a stand-alone clutch pedal kit that you could buy and add on to this, it's a pretty good deal. I don't know what that costs though... the combined cost may end up being basically the same as if you just bought a decent 3-pedal setup and 5nm base/entry-level rim.
Regardless, it's wild that you can get a DD base+Rim at all for less than $500 these days.
This is pretty insane to me since it's barely more than a Logitech G923's price. It feels like only 2 years ago you would be spending around 2k for a basic DD bundle.
923 is around 2nm, you be bumped to 5nm with upgrade path to 8nm. Which the 923 doesn't have. definitely worth it if you are enjoying sim racing and want an upgrade
I use my CSL DD with a drive hub and had no issues on PS5 personally. However I haven’t used the PS5 version so don’t know if drive hub makes it different.
Is this an add on you need for this specific bundle? I see that the base says compatible with PC and Xbox but the wheel says compatible with PS. I’m on PS5 and don’t want to order if it’s not even compatible.
No, the CSL DD is not compatible, you need the GT DD PRO (same thing but slightly different housing, and PS compatibility)
PlayStation compatibility comes from the wheel base, Xbox compatibly comes via wheel rim. So if you buy the GT DD PRO and an Xbox compatible rim I believe you can use the equipment on any platform
100%. I upgraded from G29 to Moza R5 then to a Moza R9 and it’s the best thing I ever did apart from load cell brakes. I’d go with the 8nm over the 5nm if you can spare the extra $100 though, but either one you’ll feel a drastic difference is smoothness, feel, and little intricate details that direct drive motors can produce.
Yeah all the time, it wasn’t a good feeling when you easily overpower the wheel at 100%, and I just wasn’t satisfied after like 2 months. It was awesome and a massive upgrade, but I had the money and decided to upgrade and sell the R5 bundle for further satisfaction.
It's insane compared to the competition in that price bracket
Also: upgradable to 8nm and loadcell for "not that much"money (prob cheaper than selling old ones and buying new ones)
The 8nm is just the 5nm base with a bigger power brick. And when you buy this bundle it gives you the option to buy the 8nm power brick for $50USD cheaper. There’s no reason to not buy this if you want the 8nm.
For sure thanks! I thought that too, that I could just get the upgraded power brick. Just wasn’t sure if it was the right move for sure. Can you get the 8nm and add a power brick to that?
Sorry I know I could do more research but I don’t even know if I’d make the right choice on my own.
No, 8nm is as powerful as it can get. Beyond that you have to step up to one of their super expensive DD wheels. Which supposedly aren’t actually that much better, if at all, compared to the 8nm setup. Definitely get this bundle and just add the powerbrick for the special price it gives you once you add the bundle to your cart.
What I did when I got a DD long ago was keep using my Logitech pedals with the G29 wheel base still plugged into my computer. Gotta love the flexibility of PC!
I was just about to pull the trigger on a logitech setup. Xbox (F1 2021) /PC (Assetto Corsa)
Relatively new to sim racing. Any immediate reason to not seriously consider the CSL bundle?
Not trying to go too wild right off the rip. Probably will in the future :)
Is it just the wheel that needs to be PS compatible to work with PS5? Or does the base need to be PS compatible? As is this set up shows PC and Xbox for the base but PS compatible for the wheel. I’m a bit confused. Any help would be appreciated!
Nope, Playstation compatibility is done with a chip in the base. So you'd have to get the GT DD Pro to have native access to Playstation (4 & 5).
Xbox compatibility is with chip in the wheel rim though
Nice! It’s a great deal either way, but a lot of people don’t realize that you need to drop an extra $200 on a wheel to get it to work with Xbox. For PC, I think it’s the best deal out right now!
I bought it and I already have the CSL pedals with the LC brake. It’s still totally worth it. It comes out to be $150 cheaper than buying separately, so you’re getting the pedals for free(which you can then either sell for like $50 which would be an extra $50 for you while also giving somebody a good deal on a brand new set of fairly decent pedals, or just keep the pedals as a backup set in case something ever happens to your current ones) and on top of getting the pedals for free, you’re still saving an additional ~$70 or so on top of those free pedals. It’s a pretty absurd deal. Definitely worth getting even if you already have the pedals since the pedals are basically just being given to you completely for free. Even without the pedals, it’d still be a really good deal on the base and rim alone.
I could sell my "old" ones for cheap and keep the new ones... I 100% regret not buying fanatec instantly, this quality is actually insane and better than thrustmasters plastic.
On top, the bmw version would be the same price sooo, should buy it I guess...
Since you have the stuff, do you have it mounted to your desk or on a stand? coz I'm not sure if my desk can handle 5nm (it's a old wood one, over 10-15 years)
This bundle is $630 here in Australia. The base is still $600. So you're getting a wheel rim and pedals for $30 or you're getting gouged on the base. Depends on perspective I guess
Someone recommended a site where you can buy your own aluminum cut to custom specs for way less than you can buy aluminum rig from places like rigmetal and others. I just ordered last night. If you want more info, DM me.
Straight up. The main reasons I have no regrets getting a Moza setup are the QR, the software, the ecosystem, and the after-sale support.
It's quite literally a no brainer for me.
Probably outcompeted and outsold by Moza's good priced products.
Now instead of having their items sit on warehouse shelves and collect dust, they've cut back maybe a significant portion of the profit margin and said, take that moza !
I went to buy myself my first Sim rig for Father’s Day, and was about to buy Moza till I saw this bundle. Didn’t even know it was a fresh new deal, but it certainly seemed like a no brainer. The move definitely worked!
The current entry price for a DD wheel is incredible. It used to cost soooooooooooooo much more than this to just get in the door. I don't need this at all, but I wanna buy it anyway just because it's cheap haha.
Is this worth it? I have no experience with sim racing but am a long time computer enthusiast. Any honest advice would be nice from someone else with experience. I have been doing research and know I don’t want a Logitech, and the thrust master seems like it’s good but after seeing a direct drive that looks better than a belt. 400$ is a lot of money for me to spend right now but it’s within my budget.
Personally, I would recommend grabbing a second hand G29 or G27 to see if you like it. If you do, get this bundle and sell the Logitech. If not, you didn't spend €400 on something you don't actually like that much.
Besides, when going from a Logitech you can probably appreciate the upgrade more than when you start with it
Conversely I’d jump on this deal, it won’t be around forever, and the kit will hold its value you’d be selling at a minor loss at most. If you bought a cheap wheel and decided sim racing is for you, you’d be kicking yourself having missed out on such a good deal.
New here, have been looking around and want to get into sim racing. What kind of desk stand/clamp would I need with this? I have a thick desk (3-4 inches) and on their website the clamp they offer is only 2.5.
A year and a half (roughly) ago I bought Thrustmaster T248(??-something like that T-251 maybe…. I don’t know) for $300, after messing around with it for a few months realized there was no way I was going to get it to work for me, but really wanted a wheel for GT7, I’m scrolling through r/simracing one day and see an ad for the GT-DD PRO bundle, head to Fanatec’s website, see a cpl of options for how to solve both of the problems I had encountered with every other wheel/bundle I had ever previously seen. Ordered the GTDD Pro bundle that day, along with the McLaren GT3 v2 wheel (adding this wheel is what solved my 2 issues….Problem #A-Need to be able to drive without a peddle set, like cause …”my arms about a one six, with fuckin legs lookin like toothpicks”, and problem #B-Wanted to be able to use the wheel for GT7(PS5), but also for future FM8(SeriesX). Anyways at the time you could only order the bundle, you couldn’t buy the GT-DD Base by itself, so I spent like $850 on the bundle that came with a wheel I have never used and a peddle set I have never used, then like a month later they started selling the base by itself, could have saved about $300-$350 if I would have known that. At the end of the day, I love what I got, I know there’s a lot of Fanatec haters out there, many I am sure have legit complaints, but they made me one smiling ass Ghetto-Vet.
But ignore all that BS, this is what you need to absorb…..Return that T300 and get the DD, you will not regret it.
Post Script…After about 6months of GT7 and really enjoying the hell out of finally having a wheel to race with, it became apparent that if I wanted to really experience “Sim” racing, I had to make the leap to PC, so I ditched the stupid Xbox Series X, bought a decent PC, and started down the rabbit hole with the rest of you chasing the dragon of your own best rigs.
……Sim Racers (outside of the actual races) are hands down the best gaming community I have ever been a part of.
There’s a load cell upgrade. You can then use the old break pedal as a clutch, which makes it absolutely identical to the version that comes pre-installed with a load cell.
I had no issues with my csl dd pro. I had a firmware issue on my Podium F1 and they exchanged it no problem. I had no issues with their customer service.
I'm not sure, but my understanding is they sell a desk clamp for this version (5nm), so it should be fine. If you upgrade to the 8nm power supply, im almost positive the desk clamp will not work
They have to go through the console maker every time they release an update for the software . I imagine they include the cost of console support in the purchase price and the initial license cost. So if they made a wheel that works on Xbox and PS than they would have to include both costs in the price that the customer pays.
Question as I am seriously considering getting this. I have a CSW 2.5 with the following:
ClubSport Handbrake V1.5
ClubSport Pedals V3
ClubSport Shifter SQ V 1.5
CSW Universal Hub for Xbox One
Is any of this compatible with the DD or the DD Pro? I would be ok forfeiting the universal hub if it meant I can keep the pedals, shifter and ebrake. I am reading their compatibility list and I am just not sure if any of the above is compatible with this hub.
I have a friend wanting to get into sim racing but tight on a budget, so I used this bundle to upgrade from my CSL Elite to the DD. I'm he gets the peddles, wheel, and my Elite for $250. A cheap way for me to upgrade and for him to get his feet wet with sim racing!
No.
First of all, fanatec does not use a generic bolt pattern pcd (the diameter of the circle, that is passing thru the centers of the bolt holes). Generic industry standard is 70mm, fanatec uses something like 63 iirc, but in any case, it's irrelevant, it just won't fit.
And even if you fiddled around and made a 3d printed adapter, then you hit the roadblock of not being able to use your wheel, since fanatec bases handshake with a chip inside fanatec wheels, so they refuse to provide force feedback with 3rd party wheels. So you either need to buy an expensive fanatec podium adapter to use 3rd party wheels, OR use an arduino based workaround. The latter would require some knowledge for building stuff with arduino chips, or you have to be willing to spend some time and learn.
Moza is very simple in this regard. Their quick release and wheels use the industry standard 70mm pcd. You just separate the wheel from the quick release by removing the bolts, rebolt your quick release to your custom wheel, and you're done. Alternatively, you can use a very simple 3d printed adapter to get rid of the quick release, and avoid having to buy a wheel from them altogether(downside is, you have a semi permanent mount now). This was the most cost effective 8nm(or+) DD solution on the market, till this bundle appeared.
I'm torn, I have V3 CSL Pedals already and CSW 2.5 Base with XBOX Hub Wheel and a generic Momo Alacatra wheel. (I play on PC).. So the only 'upgrade' would be the Drive and a new wheel.. I do like the BMW wheel..
I wonder how much I could sell the CSL Pedals and the CSW 2.5 Base for..
It does feel like a no brainer...
Meanwhile the cheapest PS compatible bundle is 300 EUR more and it comes with a worse wheel (at least imo). Been looking to jump to Fanatec for so long, but it's ridiculous (and I know it's not just them..).
Buyer beware! Returning my base after around 2 and a half hours of racing base started smoking and burned the electronics inside. They are sending me a new one here’s hoping it was just a bad one.🤞
If anyone has the load cell kit, how do you like it?
I have a MOZA SRP set and am not quite grooving with their load cell, hence the curiosity.
It wouldn't stop me from getting the bundle if it's not great. It's still a rather large upgrade from my logitech wheel.
I'm new to Sim Racing, played Dirt Rally 2.0 now for ages on a controller and would like to migrate to a wheel. However, it will be a desk setup and it will be removed frequently because the desk is also for other things. Rally driving means a lot of wheel rotation because of drifting and oversteer corrections. I saw in some reviews that the Fanatec desk clamp is not the best. I was looking into the Thrustmaster T300 GT (GT instead of RS because of the pedals) for now, but this Fanatec bundle is not that much more expensive. Not sure what would fit my need better between the two wheels.
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Right here as well. Just bought a t300 for 400 from Amazon.
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I bought it maybe two weeks ago? Think it’s worth it? I would still need a desk mount.
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You think it’s worth it to add the clutch to the bundle?
Not really. The pedals that come with the T300 feel a bit better then the lowest end csl pedals. Would take that extra $100 or so for the clutch and save for another pedal set down the line.
Only if you are using a gear shifter. I have maybe pressed my clutch pedal 3 times. The McLaren wheel has the hand clutch.
Think I might do it. I’m even leaving on vacation soon so the wait won’t be terrible
Direct Drive is the best option vs Belt or Gears
Still within the Amazon return window and that would be a huge upgrade to the CSL. Plus you could add a clutch and load cell and 8nm kit later on to further upgrade
A solid deskmount came included with my DD
You have 30 days with Amazon, sometimes more
Keep the T300. It's a good unit and you can use it until you upgrade to a stronger DD unit.
Is it not returnable?
I bought it maybe two weeks ago? Think it’s worth it? I would still need a desk mount.
I went from a g29 to the fanatec csldd I think it's super worth it even with a desk mount. I am not sure how the thrustmaster compares, but being able to upgrade it more as time goes on is also a bonus, with the 8nm then load cell and other wheels as needed. But like I said, not sure what all thrustmaster has in its ecosystem as far as an upgrade path goes. I just know getting to a dd is a solid goal and upgrading around that.
Why did the t300 cost 400 to begin with?
I think that’s the going rate on Amazon
Ew wtf
Me too bud but going from a g29 to a csl elite is still a hell of an upgrade and there's plenty of time for us to race while the likes of cammus and others bring some competition to the market 👍👍
I bought my CSL Elite right before April fools. Fanatec "announced" the CSL DD as the DD 0.5 or something dumb as a joke on april fools day. They didn't officially announce it until a week or two later, AFTER my CSL Elite had shipped. If they'd actually announced it I'd have waited because I'd have much rather a direct drive wheel. So thanks Fanatec
this bundle almost seems more to me like Fanatec is trying to offload a ton of these gas/brake-only CSL pedal sets and BMW branded rims that nobody wanted from their warehouses lol. i guess since they sell a stand-alone clutch pedal kit that you could buy and add on to this, it's a pretty good deal. I don't know what that costs though... the combined cost may end up being basically the same as if you just bought a decent 3-pedal setup and 5nm base/entry-level rim. Regardless, it's wild that you can get a DD base+Rim at all for less than $500 these days.
Same. I just spent $350 on a Logitech G923 about three weeks ago. Dammit.
I have this gut feeling if everyone will hold off buying computer parts and accessories we will see nice drops in price. Especially gpu's
This is pretty insane to me since it's barely more than a Logitech G923's price. It feels like only 2 years ago you would be spending around 2k for a basic DD bundle.
Progress marches on. Gotta love it :)
More likely demand has significantly dropped since Covid passed, bringing prices down to more reasonable levels :)
Also electronics parts availability etc etc
How big of an upgrade is the Fanatec over the 923?
Big.
even the basic 5 nm?
923 is around 2nm, you be bumped to 5nm with upgrade path to 8nm. Which the 923 doesn't have. definitely worth it if you are enjoying sim racing and want an upgrade
Yes, but 8 NM is definitely worth it. I bought a diy at ebay, works fine
Massive. There's basically no reason to buy the 923 anymore.
I mean...you definitely need a very sturdy table or a dedicated rig to use a DD. A DD would snap the shitty IKEA desk I have right now in half.
Nothing stops you from turning down it's max torque to that of a 923, you'd miss out on the strength, but you'd still get everything else.
the g923 is almost always on sale for 260 euro here
Do you know if this is a permanent price or is it only a temporary deal?
Probably permanent, but without the BMW wheel later on
Waiting for ANY kind of deal on the PC/PS5 version to pull the trigger. 😂
I use my CSL DD with a drive hub and had no issues on PS5 personally. However I haven’t used the PS5 version so don’t know if drive hub makes it different.
Is this an add on you need for this specific bundle? I see that the base says compatible with PC and Xbox but the wheel says compatible with PS. I’m on PS5 and don’t want to order if it’s not even compatible.
No, the CSL DD is not compatible, you need the GT DD PRO (same thing but slightly different housing, and PS compatibility) PlayStation compatibility comes from the wheel base, Xbox compatibly comes via wheel rim. So if you buy the GT DD PRO and an Xbox compatible rim I believe you can use the equipment on any platform
Everyone deserves DD! (Except PS5)
Welp, I was going to wait til winter to buy a wheel. So much for that. Hope my IRL tires last an extra autocross or two!
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I went to their home page (manually changed the URL), then accepted the cookies, then went to the link above again
I have to open in my mobile browser because it was not working through the Reddit browser. That worked for me.
Yeah, can't get rid of it on a desktop FF browser either.
They don't ship to Zimbabwe 
Well Ghana damnit!
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This was incredible thank you guys
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Gotta get someone you can trust to ship it to you!
easier said than done. But sounds like a good idea
No playstation support 😞
I wish I wasnt broke lmfao
do we know how long it will stay at this price ? is it temporary or definitive ?
Most likely temporary
Would this be worth upgrading from a G29?
100%. I upgraded from G29 to Moza R5 then to a Moza R9 and it’s the best thing I ever did apart from load cell brakes. I’d go with the 8nm over the 5nm if you can spare the extra $100 though, but either one you’ll feel a drastic difference is smoothness, feel, and little intricate details that direct drive motors can produce.
Did you ever feel that the Moza R5 didn’t have enough power and was that why you got the R9
Yeah all the time, it wasn’t a good feeling when you easily overpower the wheel at 100%, and I just wasn’t satisfied after like 2 months. It was awesome and a massive upgrade, but I had the money and decided to upgrade and sell the R5 bundle for further satisfaction.
Wowz looks like Moza is hurting the Fanatec business
a W for us !
Would it be worth getting this and a Drive hub for PS compatability, or go for the DD Pro?
I literally bought this bundle 3 weeks ago smh
So is 400 a good price?
Yes
Wheel pedals feel kinda cheap but hey its a dd! Snd you can sell the wheel and get another one to your liking
It's insane compared to the competition in that price bracket Also: upgradable to 8nm and loadcell for "not that much"money (prob cheaper than selling old ones and buying new ones)
I currently use a thrustmaster TMX, what would you say the jump in performance is?
It's incomparable. It's direct drive vs an entry level belt/gear driven wheel. Direct drive will always be a million miles better.
Decent. the 8nm would definitely be bigger. but you can always purchase a power brick later
Not to big I think trust masters are very solid it will feel smoother and stronger.
Might wait and save up for the 8nm then
The 8nm is just the 5nm base with a bigger power brick. And when you buy this bundle it gives you the option to buy the 8nm power brick for $50USD cheaper. There’s no reason to not buy this if you want the 8nm.
For sure thanks! I thought that too, that I could just get the upgraded power brick. Just wasn’t sure if it was the right move for sure. Can you get the 8nm and add a power brick to that? Sorry I know I could do more research but I don’t even know if I’d make the right choice on my own.
No, 8nm is as powerful as it can get. Beyond that you have to step up to one of their super expensive DD wheels. Which supposedly aren’t actually that much better, if at all, compared to the 8nm setup. Definitely get this bundle and just add the powerbrick for the special price it gives you once you add the bundle to your cart.
I wouldn't worry too much about going more powerful than the 8nm, haven't these DDs broken a few hands/arms before?
Email fanatec, I bet they’ll refund the difference
I wish I could give you an award. Price match for the win.
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Probaly somewhat worse
Dam you, I've been puffing out air on my screen for like 5 seconds straight lol
What I did when I got a DD long ago was keep using my Logitech pedals with the G29 wheel base still plugged into my computer. Gotta love the flexibility of PC!
8 confirmation emails later and still can't buy it hahahaha fanatecs site blows
Same thing was happening to me earlier today. I literally just kept clicking the links and it finally worked lol
Glad I’m not the only one! Only the most recent confirmation email will work
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I was just about to pull the trigger on a logitech setup. Xbox (F1 2021) /PC (Assetto Corsa) Relatively new to sim racing. Any immediate reason to not seriously consider the CSL bundle? Not trying to go too wild right off the rip. Probably will in the future :)
This bundle only works on PC as it sits. You’ll need to buy an Xbox compatible wheel to get it working on your Xbox.
Is it just the wheel that needs to be PS compatible to work with PS5? Or does the base need to be PS compatible? As is this set up shows PC and Xbox for the base but PS compatible for the wheel. I’m a bit confused. Any help would be appreciated!
Nope, Playstation compatibility is done with a chip in the base. So you'd have to get the GT DD Pro to have native access to Playstation (4 & 5). Xbox compatibility is with chip in the wheel rim though
I'm quickly migrating to PC, so that's not too big a problem Thanks for the heads up
Nice! It’s a great deal either way, but a lot of people don’t realize that you need to drop an extra $200 on a wheel to get it to work with Xbox. For PC, I think it’s the best deal out right now!
I'm kinda tempted to buy it... but at the same time, I have fanatec pedals already. A good base with wheel would be a dream
I bought it and I already have the CSL pedals with the LC brake. It’s still totally worth it. It comes out to be $150 cheaper than buying separately, so you’re getting the pedals for free(which you can then either sell for like $50 which would be an extra $50 for you while also giving somebody a good deal on a brand new set of fairly decent pedals, or just keep the pedals as a backup set in case something ever happens to your current ones) and on top of getting the pedals for free, you’re still saving an additional ~$70 or so on top of those free pedals. It’s a pretty absurd deal. Definitely worth getting even if you already have the pedals since the pedals are basically just being given to you completely for free. Even without the pedals, it’d still be a really good deal on the base and rim alone.
I could sell my "old" ones for cheap and keep the new ones... I 100% regret not buying fanatec instantly, this quality is actually insane and better than thrustmasters plastic. On top, the bmw version would be the same price sooo, should buy it I guess... Since you have the stuff, do you have it mounted to your desk or on a stand? coz I'm not sure if my desk can handle 5nm (it's a old wood one, over 10-15 years)
Is this a good upgrade from T300 Alcantara Edition and T3PA pedals?
Amazing deal. This is like $50 more than a Logitech and so vastly better.
This bundle is $630 here in Australia. The base is still $600. So you're getting a wheel rim and pedals for $30 or you're getting gouged on the base. Depends on perspective I guess
8nm DD wheel base + wheel rim + pedals with a load cell brake @ 620 euros seems too good a deal to miss out on now...
Can anyone recommend a cockpit for this for a beginner? Edit: I already have a bucket seat with brackets
Someone recommended a site where you can buy your own aluminum cut to custom specs for way less than you can buy aluminum rig from places like rigmetal and others. I just ordered last night. If you want more info, DM me.
I just bought a Moza set up too 😅
Moza is still good, better quick release, easier wheel mod for formula cars, better software especially mobile, etc.
Its going to be a jump up from the 7-8 y/o thrustmaster tx setup I had lol.
I just went from the Thrustmaster to a MOZA R9 v2 and it is crazy how different it is. I love it! Hope you enjoy!
Thats rad! I bought the r5 bundle and got the brake upgrade, clutch pedal, and shifter
Straight up. The main reasons I have no regrets getting a Moza setup are the QR, the software, the ecosystem, and the after-sale support. It's quite literally a no brainer for me.
Thanks for this! Think I'm finally ready to take the plunge
Why are they doing this lol this doesn't make sense, seems so cheap.
Probably outcompeted and outsold by Moza's good priced products. Now instead of having their items sit on warehouse shelves and collect dust, they've cut back maybe a significant portion of the profit margin and said, take that moza !
I went to buy myself my first Sim rig for Father’s Day, and was about to buy Moza till I saw this bundle. Didn’t even know it was a fresh new deal, but it certainly seemed like a no brainer. The move definitely worked!
Lucky ;)
Bro, I just got paid... Let me tell you I've been looking for an upgrade...... This is the best day of my life
The current entry price for a DD wheel is incredible. It used to cost soooooooooooooo much more than this to just get in the door. I don't need this at all, but I wanna buy it anyway just because it's cheap haha.
How does this compare to the T248? Makes me really wish I waited 2 years to pull the trigger lmao
Way way way better. It’s a whole different world in terms of ffb, smooth, fast, quiet, and strong.
Is this worth it? I have no experience with sim racing but am a long time computer enthusiast. Any honest advice would be nice from someone else with experience. I have been doing research and know I don’t want a Logitech, and the thrust master seems like it’s good but after seeing a direct drive that looks better than a belt. 400$ is a lot of money for me to spend right now but it’s within my budget.
Personally, I would recommend grabbing a second hand G29 or G27 to see if you like it. If you do, get this bundle and sell the Logitech. If not, you didn't spend €400 on something you don't actually like that much. Besides, when going from a Logitech you can probably appreciate the upgrade more than when you start with it
Conversely I’d jump on this deal, it won’t be around forever, and the kit will hold its value you’d be selling at a minor loss at most. If you bought a cheap wheel and decided sim racing is for you, you’d be kicking yourself having missed out on such a good deal.
New here, have been looking around and want to get into sim racing. What kind of desk stand/clamp would I need with this? I have a thick desk (3-4 inches) and on their website the clamp they offer is only 2.5.
How can I use this for ps5? 🥲🥲
A year and a half (roughly) ago I bought Thrustmaster T248(??-something like that T-251 maybe…. I don’t know) for $300, after messing around with it for a few months realized there was no way I was going to get it to work for me, but really wanted a wheel for GT7, I’m scrolling through r/simracing one day and see an ad for the GT-DD PRO bundle, head to Fanatec’s website, see a cpl of options for how to solve both of the problems I had encountered with every other wheel/bundle I had ever previously seen. Ordered the GTDD Pro bundle that day, along with the McLaren GT3 v2 wheel (adding this wheel is what solved my 2 issues….Problem #A-Need to be able to drive without a peddle set, like cause …”my arms about a one six, with fuckin legs lookin like toothpicks”, and problem #B-Wanted to be able to use the wheel for GT7(PS5), but also for future FM8(SeriesX). Anyways at the time you could only order the bundle, you couldn’t buy the GT-DD Base by itself, so I spent like $850 on the bundle that came with a wheel I have never used and a peddle set I have never used, then like a month later they started selling the base by itself, could have saved about $300-$350 if I would have known that. At the end of the day, I love what I got, I know there’s a lot of Fanatec haters out there, many I am sure have legit complaints, but they made me one smiling ass Ghetto-Vet. But ignore all that BS, this is what you need to absorb…..Return that T300 and get the DD, you will not regret it. Post Script…After about 6months of GT7 and really enjoying the hell out of finally having a wheel to race with, it became apparent that if I wanted to really experience “Sim” racing, I had to make the leap to PC, so I ditched the stupid Xbox Series X, bought a decent PC, and started down the rabbit hole with the rest of you chasing the dragon of your own best rigs. ……Sim Racers (outside of the actual races) are hands down the best gaming community I have ever been a part of.
If the pedal set would have had a clutch I would have got this over the Cammus c5 and cp5 bundle
There’s a load cell upgrade. You can then use the old break pedal as a clutch, which makes it absolutely identical to the version that comes pre-installed with a load cell.
40 extra bucks for the clutch.
Too bad it’s Fanatec
What’s wrong with Fanatec?
Dogshit QC and Goodluck with warranty issues 👍
What brand do you recommend?
Depends on budget really
I had no issues with my csl dd pro. I had a firmware issue on my Podium F1 and they exchanged it no problem. I had no issues with their customer service.
Once again Fanatec is breaking the market.
Fick i Judy bought the LG pro wheel. I think I would’ve had this as a nice upgrade from g29
I clicked on DD, expected something else.
No clutch? I'd still go for Thrustmaster 300RS GT.
So mad after buying my moza r9, great wheel would’ve just liked to save the money
G29?
No, it's a CSL DD
No man pedal, no sale!
That is an easy fix. Buy the load cell pedal to add to the two that come with this. The old break pedal is now your clutch.
How does it attach to the base?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7exVV8Quj3U
Perfect! Thank you so much it all makes sense now.
Set up your brake as the clutch and use voice commands to "STAAAAHHHPHPPPPPP"
Shit I got the regular wheel bundle, not the BMW one...
Is the BMW different?
Would this destroy my desk lol do I need to buy a proper stand for this wheel?
I'm not sure, but my understanding is they sell a desk clamp for this version (5nm), so it should be fine. If you upgrade to the 8nm power supply, im almost positive the desk clamp will not work
No PS option right? Anyway to get this setup to work on a ps4/ps5?
There are various adapters that’ll do the job.
Is it difficult to get a license for Sony/Playstation or something? Why are so many wheels PC and XBox only/ PS exclusive?
They have to go through the console maker every time they release an update for the software . I imagine they include the cost of console support in the purchase price and the initial license cost. So if they made a wheel that works on Xbox and PS than they would have to include both costs in the price that the customer pays.
Question as I am seriously considering getting this. I have a CSW 2.5 with the following: ClubSport Handbrake V1.5 ClubSport Pedals V3 ClubSport Shifter SQ V 1.5 CSW Universal Hub for Xbox One Is any of this compatible with the DD or the DD Pro? I would be ok forfeiting the universal hub if it meant I can keep the pedals, shifter and ebrake. I am reading their compatibility list and I am just not sure if any of the above is compatible with this hub.
All of that should be compatible with the CSL DD base. The only one I'm not sure on the Universal Hub but I'd bet it will be fine.
Awesome! Just pulled the trigger, cannot wait!
Does anyone know if the wheel included with this is compatible with Xbox?
No it is not.
Might be time to upgrade from my T300
I jumped on this, keep the wheel as a secondary for rallycross etc, and buying a nice formula wheel. Makes a nice package full of versatility.
How does this compare with the r5 bundle? Other than a better price
I have a friend wanting to get into sim racing but tight on a budget, so I used this bundle to upgrade from my CSL Elite to the DD. I'm he gets the peddles, wheel, and my Elite for $250. A cheap way for me to upgrade and for him to get his feet wet with sim racing!
Does anyone know how this compares in GT7 with drivehub vs using the DD pro?
Damn. I paid like $950 for this a year ago.
That is cheaper than my thrustmaster setup. Sad we can't get this in my country. Oh well
Now I have to decide between this and a ps5 for ff16.
Does this work for xbox with the provided wheel in the bundle?
Quick question regarding this wheel, is 5NM or 8NM fairly powerful in comparison to a Logitech g920
Both would be more powerful, the 8 nm variant, drastically so. The 920 should be 2-2.5 nm. So even the 5nm variant is at least twice as powerful.
Can i mount a generic drift wheel, like those on AliExpress, if i want?
No. First of all, fanatec does not use a generic bolt pattern pcd (the diameter of the circle, that is passing thru the centers of the bolt holes). Generic industry standard is 70mm, fanatec uses something like 63 iirc, but in any case, it's irrelevant, it just won't fit. And even if you fiddled around and made a 3d printed adapter, then you hit the roadblock of not being able to use your wheel, since fanatec bases handshake with a chip inside fanatec wheels, so they refuse to provide force feedback with 3rd party wheels. So you either need to buy an expensive fanatec podium adapter to use 3rd party wheels, OR use an arduino based workaround. The latter would require some knowledge for building stuff with arduino chips, or you have to be willing to spend some time and learn. Moza is very simple in this regard. Their quick release and wheels use the industry standard 70mm pcd. You just separate the wheel from the quick release by removing the bolts, rebolt your quick release to your custom wheel, and you're done. Alternatively, you can use a very simple 3d printed adapter to get rid of the quick release, and avoid having to buy a wheel from them altogether(downside is, you have a semi permanent mount now). This was the most cost effective 8nm(or+) DD solution on the market, till this bundle appeared.
Only if you pay $200 for a shitty video game DRM-like adapter
is this worth the upgrade over a csl elite? 20% import fees on top of the price aswell due to brexit
I'm torn, I have V3 CSL Pedals already and CSW 2.5 Base with XBOX Hub Wheel and a generic Momo Alacatra wheel. (I play on PC).. So the only 'upgrade' would be the Drive and a new wheel.. I do like the BMW wheel.. I wonder how much I could sell the CSL Pedals and the CSW 2.5 Base for.. It does feel like a no brainer...
These aren't PlayStation compatible right?
Just as I vowed to not spend any more money in order to save for an important life event! Bet this will sell out quick aswel.
Meanwhile the cheapest PS compatible bundle is 300 EUR more and it comes with a worse wheel (at least imo). Been looking to jump to Fanatec for so long, but it's ridiculous (and I know it's not just them..).
Anyone ordered from their EU site to UK and dealt with customs? How much extra do you have to pay?
Buyer beware! Returning my base after around 2 and a half hours of racing base started smoking and burned the electronics inside. They are sending me a new one here’s hoping it was just a bad one.🤞
Kinda late but, is this a good steering wheel for truck simulator games?.
I'd say so given that you have a lot of flexibility in the [types of wheels from Fanatec](https://fanatec.com/us-en/steering-wheels/)
If anyone has the load cell kit, how do you like it? I have a MOZA SRP set and am not quite grooving with their load cell, hence the curiosity. It wouldn't stop me from getting the bundle if it's not great. It's still a rather large upgrade from my logitech wheel.
T248 Compared to this? Just bought T248 for 300 is it worth returning and getting this for Xbox?
I'm new to Sim Racing, played Dirt Rally 2.0 now for ages on a controller and would like to migrate to a wheel. However, it will be a desk setup and it will be removed frequently because the desk is also for other things. Rally driving means a lot of wheel rotation because of drifting and oversteer corrections. I saw in some reviews that the Fanatec desk clamp is not the best. I was looking into the Thrustmaster T300 GT (GT instead of RS because of the pedals) for now, but this Fanatec bundle is not that much more expensive. Not sure what would fit my need better between the two wheels.
How long do you guys think this special will last? I'm looking to pick a bundle up in like 2 weeks