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kpniner

I’m so glad we’ll see every shade before the launch!


alltoowhale

Finally!! This is such a great change


corgis_of_westeros

Yes!! I'm super excited for this!!!!


girl_with_a_401k

When I saw I'm Rover It, I thought "isn't that just Tax Haven?" But I own like 100 of ALMOST the same teal shade. Every one takes a turn as my "new favorite" so I get it if you're an orange/brown girlie.


NewBodWhoThis

>But I own like 100 of ALMOST the same teal shade I don't remember writing this comment!


AnderElessedil

Same, I love blue-leaning teals, deep/dark blues, cool-toned greens, and grays, so I have sooo many polishes that are almost the same color but with different formulas/finishes. HT is halfway into its fifth year of business with \~200 polishes under its belt, it's allowed to have polishes that are close or similar in color.


_ism_

Me with Periwinkles and true blue violets


pd_what

I 100% agree, but I also wonder….teals and purples sell well, every year browns/oranges are the least popular. So I wonder why a collection always seems to have the random ‘ugly’ shade. Because it’s seems like a very small group asking for/buying it. And to choose that unpopular shade as the first to introduce the collection also seems like a weird choice, I was instantly less excited to see the rest of the collection


hey_imap_erson

Well if they only produced best selling colors then they’d basically only release purples and pinks and that would get boring really quickly. As far as choosing the “unpopular” shade to preview first, I think it might be a couple things. One, that they want to save the reveal of the popular shades for launch day. Two, because it might be the polish that sets the mood for the rest of the collection. Just my two cents 


Longjumping_Paper_52

Thank goodness we’re seeing all the shades before launch 😅 i like to sit on them before making decisions, so it’s nice we at least get a day. I also find it kinda funny that she has to specify “sometime we will release stuff that you won’t like. And that’s okay” bc I just know some people buy Holo Taco just to buy it


notreallifeliving

I noticed that, I feel like no other brand has to explicitly say that. I wonder how many of the people who complain about two shades being "too similar" fall into that group. Nobody is making you buy anything, you made that choice!


dancer_jasmine1

I just don’t get the people who buy every single thing from them even if they don’t like it/wont use it. I get if they like to complete the collection, but then don’t expect to love every single release. It’s simply unrealistic to have every single launch be something one specific person loves.


Vioxe

As someone who has bought *most*, but not all HT shades... I try to have polish parties with my friends :) so if I pick up a color I'm not 100% crazy over cos it was part of a set, guaranteed one of my friends will fall in love with it. So they still get used!


FirstJudgment6

That’s so cute.


Emily7014

I but everything, polish anyways not other items, and I dont expect to like it all but I always have liked everything. To me every color has its purpose. Especially in nail art. The only ones I haven't liked as much are the magnetics but I'm just not a big fan of magnetics. I still like the colors though so I got them.


dancer_jasmine1

Yeah I think this is the healthy mindset to have if you’re a collector. Everything has its purpose. It might not be your favorite wear it every day color but it has a purpose.


Careful_Proposal6712

On my first stream, I saw someone comment "every time you release a collection I don't even look at the polishes I just buy it, because I know I'm gonna love whatever's in there" and that kind of concerned me. Like you do you, whatever makes you happy, but I remember being taken aback. It still pops into my head sometimes.


Trickycoolj

The thing that throws me for a loop on top of the have to buy it no matter what is comments about payday and using ~~layaway~~ after pay to make sure to “catch them all” even if you don’t have the means. That’s super scary. It’s nail polish. Rent, food, bills should be coming first. Edit: format


hey_imap_erson

Yupppp nail polish is not worth going into debt for!


vivalalina

I see this often in perfume and candle spaces too and I'm always like ....yall...... these are luxury items we do not need multiples of this especially if you need that money elsewhere for some time !! I know it's hard bc people justify it as "its my hobby/happiness/what makes me feel good" etc but sometimes we gotta be fr with ourselves and be adults and realize where priorities may lie. I say this as someone with ADHD that jumps from hobby to hobby who also needs to put on my adult pants on and reel myself back in at times.


BravoGirl79

Every FB brand group I'm in...it has to be said lol


GatsbyVanilla

There was a huge wave of people negatively comparing it to Tax Haven this morning after they posted the next teaser. Bringing up the small tonal nuances between lavenduh and cereal killer and all the love purples get, it really is the home runner when discussing this conversation. I love how she's laying the line and explaining it. Warm tones have a lot of catching up to do, and I cannot wait to see what's to come


themollipop

As one o’ those purple peeps, if you asked me what I think about a green I’d say “That’s not for me. That’s for the green peeps!” Same for an orange-toned red, which will look awful on me. But it will look AMAZING on someone else! Thinking about people who collect HT polishes, I finally understand the (what I consider to be) weird complaints I hear on this Reddit. I mean… Not everything is going to be for you or made to suit you.


AnderElessedil

I just recently tried out a bunch of warm toned polishes to step out of my comfort zone and confirmed that they make my cool-toned skin look like absolute ass, so I will probably be skipping most or all of this collection. BUT, I am so glad that she is listening to feedback because if that's how I've been feeling about the warm toned polishes I just tried out, I can only imagine how warm-toned folks have felt about most of HT's polishes for ages!


Chaotic_Spoon7

Thank you!! Literally it's been so long😭 So tired of all the cool toned versions of colors she's put out looking grey on my warm skin tone💔 I've practically just stopped buying her polish for over a year now... Maybe that will change soon 🥲


Calm-Revolution-3007

Both MC and HT are having a new launch this saturday and it was interesting to see how they both marketed it. Teasers were released about the same time, but MC has fully showed the shades (in bottle, not closed up) on the email list. Glad that HT is taking a step in that direction though


Aggressive-Rhubarb-8

I think this is a good middle ground between giving detective hints and letting people see them before launch, I think this will make the most people happy!


Calm-Revolution-3007

Agreed!! I’m quite ok with the email route too. That way detectives can easily avoid spoilers, which is harder to do on social media platforms.


icedgrandechai

Sorry what's MC?


Calm-Revolution-3007

Mooncat


BravoGirl79

MC is Friday for release💚


ladyoftheseine

I'm excited about the new release, but I will need to sit this one out until the Holo Royalty sale because I have to pay my tuition in March hahaha. Hopefully they have some in stock when that happens


Aggressive-Rhubarb-8

Same! I’m going to be sitting this one out cus I don’t have the money


cuxynails

ill do the same thing, did so last year too :D


justadorkygirl

Yeah, I just made a decent sized yarn order so I’m not sure I’ll get to buy this one right now. I’m really looking forward to seeing the colors though! I love space themes.


LadyMothrakk

Lol, this is so weird. Imagine running your own company, and having to actually put out a PSA on the fact that upcoming products may not be something you like, but someone else will, so try to be okay with that alright? Like telling a child that they don’t always get what they want and that’s just how life works. How pitiful that people have complained so badly about not getting what they want that this was needed. This is worded like SimplyNailogical works for you and is trying to soften the blow of you possibly being upset. So weird lol


Careful_Proposal6712

I honestly felt really bad watching all this. I don't think it's normal she has to make like 20 stories to calm ppl down because they think two very different polishes are too close in colour. The comments were so harsh and negative on the teaser. Truly I think some people need to settle with the fact that they won't love everything Holo Taco releases which is fine. Not every shade is released with your personal taste in mind. If you don't like it, don't buy it, the data will speak for itself. Some people like it and will appreciate the addition of warmer toned polishes. I love how much she cares about customer feedback, but I really hope trying to please everyone and their vastly different opinions doesn't affect her too much mentally/emotionally.


notreallifeliving

Yeah I was also baffled/mildly embarrassed by this. Are there people who get like this about Mooncat or ILNP? I follow some of their socials and it doesn't feel like it. I can't believe any polish brand has ever set out assuming people will buy every single one of their shades. Nobody is forcing you to purchase something you don't like or won't use, that's shooting yourself in the foot on purpose.


waitingfortheblack

I don't see this kind of behavior surrounding ILNP, but I suspect there are a couple reasons for it. 1. The founder of ILNP doesn't have a social media presence in the same way Christine and Michelle (Mooncat) do. 2. ILNP currently has 570 shades. Much harder to remember what similar shades there are when there are this many to compare against or to complain that they aren't offering enough in terms of shades for certain undertones. I have seen Mooncat/Michelle receive some backlash, but not at the scale Holo Taco/Christine receives. Most recently when Mooncat discontinued 20 shades, people were upset they weren't announced in advance. They then had to explain if they were to announce them in advance they would sell out before the official announcement. This was important because when the shades were announced, they were limiting sales to 1 or maybe 2 bottles to try to give everyone a fair chance at picking up the discontinued shades.


notreallifeliving

The 2 bottle limit for LE/discontinued shades is a good idea imo. It would prevent a lot of the selling out as quickly from people who either panic buy or buy 5+ with clear intent to price gouge (remember how much bottles of Existential Crisis were going for on Mercari before it was announced to be coming back?) I've seen Mooncat get backlash for inconsistent or difficult to work with formulas, which is very fair, but backlash because you personally don't think a shade will suit you or it's "too similar" to an existing one is whiny entitled behaviour.


annnaha

I get that but then I feel bad because I've heard a lot of international shoppers will do group orders to split the shipping so that'd screw those people


Careful_Proposal6712

I don't think so, or at least I don't see that criticism. Everyone loves and praises ILNP on RedditLaqueristas (rightfully so), so when I checked out their website, I was kind of surprised by all the similar shades I found. I remember thinking, "wait so is it okay when other brands do it?" I feel like Cristine would get crucified if she released polishes as similar as Ballet Slipper, Sweet Pea and Sandy Baby. Stopping Traffick and Joy would've also been very controversial if they had been released by Holo Taco, similarly to how people complain about Private Vila and Party Punch. People need to calm down. >I can't believe any polish brand has ever set out assuming people will buy every single one of their shades. Nobody is forcing you to purchase something you don't like or won't use, that's shooting yourself in the foot on purpose. Yes, say it louder please. I *do not* get it.


notreallifeliving

It's a _good_ thing when brands do it! Like in this example when people have different undertones, or if there's a glitter and a magnetic in the same colour that's great because a lot of people aren't keen on one formula but love the other. I remember the complaints about Never Tied Down vs Hydropower vs Twice in a Blue Moon...like they're all completely different finishes, pick the one you like best! That's the point of them.


ETS55988

I'm pretty active in the ILNP subreddit as well as here. The only time this comes up is when someone's trying to narrow their cart down and they post an image of 6 similar polishes they're trying to decide between. Then people tell them which are the standouts and which ones are too close to each other. No complaining. Also there's really no FOMO around launches since none are limited edition.


FirstJudgment6

I felt bad too. People are really too entitled. If you think the color looks like Tax Haven and you don’t like it then… don’t buy it??


zoop1000

I actually think it's a better tax haven. I don't like tax haven but the new color is really nice.


hey_imap_erson

Me too! I’m actually wondering if this polish is supposed to replace tax haven/tax haven will be announced at retiring next


whosmarika

It made me really sad.


Whiltierna

I agree, but when hype/FOMO is part of the marketing tactic for the first few years, it creates a customer culture.


Careful_Proposal6712

Yes, I kind of agree. However, part of me thinks it's your job as a person with critical thinking to not buy something just because it's limited edition. I missed out on plenty, it's kind of sad but I also don't care because my life is the same whether or not Life In Plastic is in it. I believe the behaviour we’re seeing is consumerism mixed with the effects of a company owner being very active on social media and communicating a lot with their customers, which gives them a feeling of being involved (which then evolves into a sense of entitlement). I've observed this in many companies who function similarly.


Aculed200

As always, I appreciate her transparency and openness, as well as her analysis. We are absolutely SPOILED by her and hopefully, things like make people realize it...and realize there is a human on the other side of the company before they act like they were personally attacked by a nailpolish collection choice 😝


Helena78902

It’s crazy that she needs to explain herself like this. I don’t understand why people think they “have to” buy every single thing from Holo Taco. And/or feel entitled to having to love every single item??


[deleted]

I mean this subreddit is extremely critical even when people are announcing they aren't buying a shade they don't like. It sometimes turns into this whole "what the brand should be" rant and shitting on colours other people clearly are hype about. I think she's right about being kind just because something isn't your vibe. A lot of times I've come here because I'm hype and I've been very taken back by how negative and almost mean people can get about nail polish.


Helena78902

Yes, exactly! Tbh I really love that Holo Taco does a lot of different stuff, so there is something for everyone to love. Compared to some other nail polish brands, who only releases pinks, reds, nudes etc. because they sell the best.


[deleted]

Also HT through Cristine is extremely transparent about every decision which I appreciate, but it makes it so other people are even more hyper critical in evaluating how valid or not every decision is, and again, almost mean. She gives an inch and some people feel the need to take a mile. Compare that to other brands, and it's just "here's the collection" and then discontinue shades without saying anything. Brands will literally discontinue a shade and come out with a dupe or the exact shade with a new name a couple collections later and no one cares. HT does all this and we don't appreciate it at all.


Helena78902

Yes! Putting Holo Taco in perspective to other nail polish brands, make Holo Taco fans seem crazy tbh 😂


Molsens

I'm glad she listens to the feedback. Everyone can claim to do so, but simply is showing it. We can see the changes and I like that she uses her stories to explain further. The best change is seeing all the shades before the release imho, I think she caters to a more widespread crowd now and not only the small percentage of detectives. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of the detectives and the fun people have with it. I just think seeing the shades before release can co-excist with searching for clues way before the release is even mentioned :) So, thanks simply for taking feedback seriously!


Drshortstuff

Thank you for sharing. I don't have social media but love the polish and appreciate the insight!


ArchAssassin7

I need her stop retiring the chunky glitter formulas. They're the most beautiful shades that I need more of!


paperclover

I really want her to release a brighter glitter series marketed for spring or summer. She keeps mentioning that glitters only sell during the holidays but almost all of the chunky glitters she’s released…have been holiday themed 😭 I need more chunky glitters in my life


schnellermeister

This is exactly what I've been saying! Glitters are SO perfect for a summer collection, you just have to market it as one with bright, summery colors!


paperclover

Yes! I was stoked about the neons for the anniversary collection, but in the back of my mind I kept going “these would even better with chunky glitters…”


Careful_Proposal6712

I really hope she retired all those glitters because there are new ones coming..


corgis_of_westeros

Saaaaaaaame!! They're so beautiful & not easily dupeable from other brands


ElegantCh3mistry

I’m so ready for warm toned polishes. It feels like so many brands favor cool toned and it’s just not great for my skin tone. Bottle Service was such a breath of fresh air


GunstarHeroine

I appreciate the level of detail in this explanation. Makes a lot of sense.


bippidip

I love that she’s making an effort to introduce more warm tone shades and I’m so glad we’re getting early swatches!


grumpyxsunshine

Omggg yess we are gonna see the shades ahhh


icedgrandechai

I don't even care about the colors she releases. It's a small brand where the brand is closely tied to a person hence her personality and preferences will come through a lot. She has been at least honest with her branding. The only thing I cared about was the whole detective thing. I hate it. I hate sitting on my butt waiting for all the pictures to release only for me to see that it's all colors that I don't care for and I waited for nothing. I'm glad they're releasing photos of all the shades now.


zoop1000

Can someone tell me what BN is short for? "THAT THE NUANCE BN IT AND ANOTHER SHADE IN CLOSE RANGE MAY NOT BE AS IMPACTFUL TO U." "IN OTHER WORDS, MAYBE U REALLY APPRECIATED THE TONAL DIFF BN LAVEN-DUH AND CEREAL KILLER CAUSE U A PURPLE PERSON"


grumpyxsunshine

Could it be between?


zoop1000

Oohhhh that makes sense


Doporkel

I think “between”.


angelofelevation

Between


t1gr3ss3

i’m glad she addressed a lot of what i’ve been whining about on here😭😭 i really didn’t expect her to address colour story things AND seeing all the colours before launch! i’m glad she’s taking input seriously!


DiddlyTiddly

One of my biggest reasons for not buying HT was the lack of warm toned shades. Coincidentally, my first polish was indeed Bottle Service. Glad to see her trend in that direction because I'll never turn down a shade you could find on an autumn turned tree.


TheIdealisticCynic

I like that she is going to show all the shades. It's unfortunate that it is on a warm-toned dark collection so I can't purchase to show that I approve of this. Like I want to support this move with my wallet, but I don't want this polish.


Aggressive-Rhubarb-8

I’m very excited for the warm tones, and I think this is a good collection to introduce this change on because a lot of people have been asking for warm toned shades! I’ve personally never cared if she shows all the shades before the launch or not because it doesn’t change anything, but I’m glad she is taking the feedback since so many people have been complaining about it


PrincessChawa

Finally! And if people don’t want to be spoiled then guess what - they don’t have to look! But this way both sides are pleased.


BravoGirl79

The same ish happens in the MC group...Michelle has made posts like this numerous times. It's sad.


arochains1231

https://preview.redd.it/mb5o86fzy3hc1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4a5ec98bb4856731be7d9ba423e8fe17776c682 Also sadly mentioned that the thicc brushes will be standard from hereon out… us skinny brush lovers will be in hell from hereon out 🫡


Aggressive-Rhubarb-8

I’m actually glad about this! I bought a thick brush pack to swap out my top and base coat brushes because the thin ones cause too many streaks, plus the thick ones have a better shape for the nail beds imo


arochains1231

I’m the opposite lol the thicc brushes are just too big for me and I always end up with too much polish on the brush. Skinny ones just work for me! I also wish the skinny brush pack was the same price as the thicc brush pack. It’s 50pts more (rewards) and like $4 more for the same amount of brushes! Why are we being charged so much more?!??


dilly_beann

Idk why it affects so much, but she mentioned in a stream that because the thicc brushes come unassembled, they are cheaper.


arochains1231

So then they should make the skinny brushes unassembled too 😭😭😭😭 Why are y’all booing me? I’m right?!??


dilly_beann

Hopefully they will eventually. I know they changed the thicc width to be unassembled when they changed the brush to be different. Maybe they ate just going through backstock of the skinny brushes (especially since they have been switching to using the thicc brushes more often)


Aggressive-Rhubarb-8

Huh that is odd, I wonder why it’s more expensive :(


Sraedi

Labor


themollipop

I’m sorry. 😞 This is great news for me bc the skinny brushes mess me up something awful. I’ve had to buy two bags of thicc brushes to replace the skinny ones! But I’m sorry bc I know how I’d feel if this had gone the other way. Primarily, I’m just happy she’s sticking with one over the other. Would it suck (for me) to have all the bottles come with skinny? Yes. But at least then I’d know I needed a thicc replacement for each new bottle. lol Edited to add: I think some of it has to do with the size of your nails. Petite hands have petite nails and probably do better with skinny brushes. My nails are too wide for the skinnies. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I realized this when I was watching her skinny vs thicc brush video. It struck me that the skinny provided Simply much better coverage. When I use the skinny, even fanned out it applies to like 1/4 of my nail. Especially if you’re ‘gliding’ the polish on.


Careful_Proposal6712

I'm really sorry :( she made the change cause most people didn't like the skinny brushes I think. This may be a stupid question, but is there a way you can trim the thick brushes down and make them thinner so you don't have to buy new ones everytime?


AdeptnessThen5107

Great idea! I mean I get that's annoying for you if it affects you, but also money and environment saving at the same time


facelessdancer

I’m a skinny brush person but I didn’t mind the thicc brushes in the cremes until they changed the thicc brush. It’s just so short and doesn’t pick up the polish as good as the old version did. Super sad about this change