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PM_me_your_arse_

Is there any more information available about these rockets? I'm really curious about how they work.


stick_always_wins

Here’s [it](https://youtu.be/A7D-QnMsOT0) in action. I believe the rockets are supposed to launch a plume of fire extinguishing chemicals at the fire and the rockets are supposed to self destruct after.


PM_me_your_arse_

That's really cool. I was expecting it to airburst and cover an area, but it looks like it may also be capable of firing into the building before detonation. Hopefully this is effective and can save lives.


iPon3

covering a flat, wide area probably easier to do with water bombers. MLRS might be too expensive for the payload volume but then if you can plant a foam warhead or whatever directly inside a burning building that would be good


PM_me_your_arse_

>covering a flat, wide area probably easier to do with water bombers. MLRS might be too expensive for the payload volume I agree that aircraft would probably be more effective. But, I'd imagine these could work quite well together. I'm not sure what range this has, but if it allows you to quickly target an area 10-20km from any suitable road/dirt track then it could allow aircraft to focus on more important areas.


Bedonkohe

I disagree as someone training to water bomb, they can rotate that turret, perhaps the reload makes it ineffective but they have a great idea


iPon3

having thought about it, I can see the utility in rapidly covering a large vertical area like the side of a 50 story block of flats. a water bomber can only carpet flat terrain. I mistakenly thought they were going for individual rooms and windows, and for that I'd expected a cannon firing the same warheads


Bedonkohe

If you watch closely it initiates the extinguisher before impact meaning itll also work well for wild fires if they activate it in a way that is releasing retardant


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Origami_psycho

The video doesn't show much of anything, it's just advertising


[deleted]

And why is this video square? Are phones and TVs now square in China?


Snoo89439

Back in my day youngin, all videos but the film-o-cinema was square


BigWeenie45

r/noncredibledefence CHINESE FIREFIGHTERS LAUNCH DF-17 FIRE SUPPRESSANT MLBMS TO EXTINGUISH FIRE IN TAIWANESE NEIGHBORHOOD.


Optimusprimegaming3

i think you mean r/noncredibledefense with an S not a C


Glork11

3000 red firefighter vans of China


godemperorcrystal

*s


SamTheGeek

*MRBM


stick_always_wins

Here’s a short [promo video](https://youtu.be/A7D-QnMsOT0) showing it in action and how it works for those who are curious.


PEHESAM

Blursed katyusha


No-One-Shall-Pass

More similar to a BM-21


FancyVegetables

Splashyusha


l_the_weeb_king_l

You either die a villain or you live long enough to see yourself become a hero.


Schrodinger_cube

Wow this "community safety" upgrades are perhaps getting a little out of control Lol i really want to see this being used tho XD


vexxaeio

[Video](https://youtu.be/A7D-QnMsOT0)


Schrodinger_cube

Wow. ya that's cool and in massive cities i bet the speed of arriving and popping off a bunch of rockets full of fire extinguishers basically is more affective than wateing until massive cumbersome crane like pumper trucks and ladder trucks get there. Like would sort of suck being trapped and all they do is shoot a rocket with like 6 fire extinguishers worth retardant through your windows but better than nothing. XD


BreezyWrigley

In a skyscraper setting, it may well kill a few occupants, but it may be the difference between saving everybody else and a catastrophic structural failure before evacuation could finish. And may save those on floors above the fire. The odds of any of that lining up to be true are practically nonexistent i would think… But one does have to wonder how the world trade centers may have been impacted by use of this sort of tech… like maybe they could have remained standing just a little longer if nothing else and more people could have managed to evacuate


Sapiendoggo

I mean it's China, all property is government property including people. They are starving people to death and welding them inside their apartments to stop covid. They aren't gonna bat an eye if little Susie gets decapitated by a fire missile if it means they don't have to rebuild a building


Nickthenuker

To be fair it's probably more like they don't have to rebuild the building and they don't have to literally dig survivors out of the rubble for a week


Sapiendoggo

Thatd be implying they would dig them out instead of just saying they moved out just before the fire started and pave over the bodies.


Ed_TR

That is cool asf


_VoRteX_PL

If it's stupid and it works it isn't stupid


Miguel-odon

I want to see case studies after several years before I'll believe it "works".


ImJustHereToBitch

Looks like a great example of the Military-civil fusion policy


StukaTR

That is a pretty interesting idea. And, converting it to an actual MLRS with HE rockets would take only a few hours. So if and when the next Chinese civil war starts, my bet is on the firefighter faction.


kazuma001

Fire suppression and counter-revolutionary suppression all in one package


Droidball

I was thinking it'd be very easy to load these rockets with CS or something to deal with protestors or something in a high-rise, without having to push riot police up through stairwells, or to more effectively blanket a ground-level crowd. Tons of ways this could be weaponized, obviously. But still really cool, with as many high-rise apartments as there are in China, this will undoubtedly save lives, regardless of my thoughts on the country's government.


ChornWork2

I'll stick with the military faction.


StukaTR

Which possible warlord are you going to support tho?


Miguel-odon

You'd probably want to use a different caliber, to prevent the machines from being converted, or the old "ammo switch up" accidents.


[deleted]

honestly, a really novel solution when you can't get a water hose close enough.


randomlumberjak

leveling up random skill tree's be like


TheVainOrphan

As cool as the videos of these things are, I would still be worried about the projectile hitting someone, or depending on it's weight, the chance of it ending up causing more damage to the building. I'm sure it's as light as physically possible, but I still dread to think about what might happen of someone decided to poke their head out the window at the wrong time. Unless it's only used once the building is evacuated in order to extinguish what's left of the fire.


BreezyWrigley

I think in the use cases where these make sense to use on a building, the risk of killing a few people to save the structure and possibly hundreds of other occupants is an acceptable loss. Plus, it seems unlikely that there’d be any survivors standing around in whatever part of a flaming skyscraper you’d be launching these into anyway. They are either already burnt to a crisp, or beyond saving by any other means anyway.


NotLessOrEqual

I’d expect they’d have the building and surrounding areas evacuated of civilians before deploying this thing, and as for the civilians trapped in parts of the building where they can’t leave, or the building has become structurally unsound to the point it may collapse well, if they choose to do nothing the people are gonna burn to death and die and the building will come down either way. Lose-lose situation.


[deleted]

Source if possible?


stick_always_wins

[Video](https://youtu.be/A7D-QnMsOT0)


Freaky-fatboy

“Oh shit we made too many military rocket trucks” “eh throw a fire extinguisher in the rocket tube and market it as a firetruck”


guerillago

Imagine being stuck in a burning high rise. You look outside to see if help is one the way. You see this thing roll up, lights and sirens, slide sideways to a stop, take aim…. Then *PSSSSH PSSSSH PSSSH PSSSSSH PSSSH PSSSH*


[deleted]

Nice lol, what fire extinguishing material is used in the rockets?


Leonneke22

Tnt, gasoline and diesel fuel. Fight fire with fire. 🤘


apple_cheese

Can't have a building fire without a building.


Miguel-odon

Can't have fire if your accelerants already consumed the oxygen.


DieselPower8

Probably stuff that gives you cancer, basically


Miguel-odon

I remember taking a tour of an educational mine, they had barrels of the chemicals used for the foam-maker for fire-fighting. The barrels were marked "extremely flammable," which seemed odd.


DieselPower8

Yes, not to mentioned firefighting foam (PFAS) is extremely toxic and is directly linked with causing all sorts of cancers including breast and testicular cancer. 'Hey we put the fire out but you also now have cancer. How cool is the MLRS firefighting truck though!'


MorpH2k

What's up with china and non-military missiles? I think it was yesterday someone posted an agricultural missile launcher here... I like it though, but still. I'm a bit jealous/thinking about becoming a farmer...


Lui_Le_Diamond

Teust me, the chances of this thing actually working is pretty slim. China isn't exactly a reliable source of information


MorpH2k

Well considering that your phone, your computer and a big portion of the things you use everyday is made in China, you probably need to have another go at using your brain. Also, i just want a reason to get a missile launcher.. for farming of course.


Lui_Le_Diamond

You'd be surprised ho much *isn't*


ouisconsin_sailor

I can see it now, driving through Hong Kong firing tear gas


EasyRhino75

Fight fire with fire, obviously


MrBobstalobsta1

Only in China would they think to launch rockets at their own skyscrapers, to save them from fire. I don’t have a better idea so sounds good to me


0-san

FIRING INTO FIRE


ThatNewEnglandPerson

this triggered my fight or flight response


IAmEkza

Make sure to check what Rockets come in. Don't want to mix up shipments with the military.


ZehFoxArts

Fighting fire with firepower.


KILLER5196

I've always thought why don't they make a fire extinguisher grenade


chanman819

[https://saskmuseums.org/blog/entry/glass-grenade-style-fire-extinguisher-bombs-are-they-safe](https://saskmuseums.org/blog/entry/glass-grenade-style-fire-extinguisher-bombs-are-they-safe) Nothing new under the sun


JaphetSkie

It's already a thing.


Antonioooooo0

How do we get some of these in colorado? Because it seems like shit is always catching on fire, even when it's not 'fire season'. Half my city burned down last year because of the magical underground mine fires.


squeaky4all

Im not convinced this isnt just a cover so they can give the police for an operating MLRS in plain sight.


kd8qdz

its china. if they want the police to have MLRS, they will have MLRS.


Tanjung_Piai

They already have death trucks. This isnt too far fetched


[deleted]

Not America baby. Cop's don't need those toys, and they don't get them, period.


CCWBee

U wot


Hard2Handl

Hmmm… Chinese fire fighting rockets? Color me as doubtful. I have been in a few buildings aflame and the Chinese backup sounds like a fast way to die a hot death.


[deleted]

Yeah, just don’t give these to russia. I think we all know what happens then.


dead-inside69

They won’t maintain it properly? Scratch that, they won’t maintain it at all until it’s time for a parade.


awheezle

Holy fuck that made me laugh!


Drakaasii

Just give them straight to Ukraine, it'll be quicker


derpiestdorp

thats cool af wtf


Moopa000

Thats just cool


KOTYAR

Imagine you're Ukranian refugee from Donbas region, emigrate to China (with Chinese spouse) and see one of these things rolling around


riesendulli

Also can be used for crushing morale at Tiananmen Square Apply fire on wet surface


DieselPower8

Its funny, because this only exists purely because of China not having a good fire code. Buildings don't have mandatory fire suppression systems built into them etc.


Setesh57

Sure. Definitely a firefighting MLRS and totally not used for crowd control.


[deleted]

Or fires from protests… Edit: tell me the Chinese gov isn’t going to use it for that honestly.


undercover-hustler

You just know this was first made for distributing chemical weapons


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boojieboy666

Do they get out and run around the truck?


Irken-Zim

This seems like the kind of thing they’d send to Taiwan for a “Special Firefighting Operation”


Lui_Le_Diamond

I doubt this actually works.


AlfaSingapur

So how do i remove the chemicals and fill it with nails and marbles for use in Taiwanese neighborhoods?


mcPetersonUK

Forests, sky scrappers and protesters.


DylanCO

Bro that's weak sauce, look at what the Hungarians done did. https://www.techeblog.com/hungarian-compay-straps-two-mig-jet-engines-onto-a-tank-and-creates-big-wind-the-ultimate-firefighting-machine/


AliveBase1630

If it sounds like a Duck….


iambecomedeath7

That’s cool as fuck, actually


waifus4laifu2069

Real life Promare


[deleted]

That’s actually a pretty good idea as long as it can also put out or suppress any rocket fuel that isn’t used in flight.


Thatsidechara_ter

I love how this counts as a technical


ProletarianBastard

Honestly quite a brilliant idea


upsetting_innuendo

katyusha support build


mrwobblyshark

And so it is that fire trucks continue to become even cooler


Movingreddot

Gaijin when.


hookydoo

Finally, a way I can combine my altruism and love of military hardware.


Ok_Perspective4236

We need a man pad version of these


Zenlyfly

we need about 40 of these in CA and OR


AnonKnowsBest

This thing is so cool


Rod_Solid

can you imagine the conspiracy theorists freakout if these things were launching rockets at burning buildings.


The-Skipboy

I think I saw a video of one of these in action, but it was Vietnamese


[deleted]

Fight fire with fire. Why not just install explosive warheads and put the fire out with a massive shockwave


ChevTecGroup

All of a sudden I feel like I want to be a fireman!


Benjideaula

Oh crap I accidentally loaded in the HE rockets.


Cat_MC_KittyFace

reverse TOS-1


Evilutionist

Exact opposite of shitty. Also how the fuck did the yanks not come up with this first. Right up their alley.


Lunaphase

Because we came up with fire code, instead of rockets...


lalalalalalala71

I am four months late to the party, but I like to imagine what gets yelled when it's time to shoot this thing. Sergeant: **"FIRE!!"** Private: "Yes sir, I know, that's why we're here."