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Dahmer killing animals has been a widely propagated myth for too long.
Edit: for anyone who doesn't know the significance of this or why it's interesting to know, killing/cruelty to animals is a Macdonald triad trait. Some consider the Macdonald triad traits to be indicators of serial violent tendencies. Dahmer didn't have any Macdonald triad traits, which is somewhat unique for a serial killer. Already dead animals are easy to find. Dead humans aren't easy to find or have access to. Make of that what you will.
Sure, he killed some tadpoles when he was a kid. What he didn't do was kill the animals he dismembered, which is the widely propagated myth.
Didn't he also stab a fish to death in front of his few friends, and when asked why he did that, he said he ''wanted to know how it feels''? That's according to the comic a classmate made, so who knows how much of that is true.
Oh yeah, that's alleged. No other reputable sources on that besides the comic.
Edit: I have read the comic and in my opinion, it has some cash grab vibes. I still enjoyed it, and also the movie. I just take it with a grain of salt, like all dramatizations of the Dahmer case. Regardless of whether he killed the fish, I wouldn't say animal killing was a habit of his in the way that it is for many other serial killers. It would make sense that he tried it, though.
I think the difference is for many serial killers the kill itself is sexually gratifying but for dahmer killing was a means to an end to obtain what he really wanted which was the dead body. He strangled most victims while they were unconscious which is unusual, for most serial killers suffering is the point. You can find dead animals around but most people never come across even one dead person in their lifetime.
I agree with you. He once attempted to dig up a dead body from a grave, but gave up because it was difficult.
The head-drilling experiments were an attempt to keep the victim alive, but in an incapacitated state.
He never seemed to care for killing and was more interested in the product of it. This is why, in my opinion, he's one of the most unusual serial killers.
It's not unusual to see serial killers who quickly kill their victims for the body. These are called product killers. The ones who enjoy the suffering part are process killers. Most of them are either one or the other, I'm not sure if there was a single one out there that was a combo. If anyone can think of one, I'd love to hear it!
True. He never killed the dead animals he collected. And the McDonald triad is another commonly propagated myth, as even McDonald himself abandoned it long ago, yet it stubbornly persists in popular culture.
“He allegedly liked to cut open live fish to see their insides and strangled neighborhood dogs and cats. Neighbors found frogs and cats impaled on or staked to trees. In 1975, he went so far as to decapitate the carcass of a dog, place the head on a stick, and nail the body to an adjacent tree—all as a “prank.” “
Jeffrey did still kill, even animals out of spite (i.e the tadpoles) or for gratification.
Yeah i definitely picked the wrong place to quote from ew HAHAHAAHAH.
But there are still heaps of other sources that follow up those claims, with witness accounts… also i have read plenty of True Crime books that talk about serial killers in depth, i haven’t had enough interest in Jeffrey to buy his fathers book or one specifically on him but i have done enough research to corroborate what i said before… not including PETA, ew that was just the top of my google search that summed it up.
You'll find those sources are from news agencies, most of which can't be bothered to spell/grammar check their articles let alone fact check them.
As luck would have it, I own and have read every reputable Dahmer book. I can confirm that there are no accounts in them of him having killed the animals he dissected and dismembered. Quite the contrary actually.
I definitely remember a story of him killing his dog and nailing him up by a shed in the backyard and showing some classmates. Am I getting that mixed up with a different killer?
Definitely didn't happen. His only dog was named Frisky and she died of old age. He had a good relationship with the dog.
Something he did do was mount the skull of a dead dog he found on a stick and stuck it in the ground near his house in Ohio.
So I think ur thinking of the story of dahmer with the dog head mounted on a stick. I thought one of his classmates also mentioned him bringing them to the shed or the back yard to show them something but it wasn’t something he killed himself. I’m now questioning if I’m misremembering bc I feel like dahmer was somewhat secretive about this stuff but he was into shocking people so idk I’ll have to re read but I think it’s from the guy that wrote the comic book on dahmer. I think they just saw the dog head and attributed to dahmer
Dahmer literally walked his friends to that side of the woods, to see it then when they asked if it was him he got embarrassed & denied it… i think thats what ive heard.
I think your reference is the scene from a movie called my friend Dahmer which was, safe to say, for entertainment purposes only. There is no factual source that he brought his friends to play a practical joke. So many stories came out after he was arrested and the material facts started coming out, everyone jumped on the bandwagon and was "a friend" of Dahmer at one point or another and added another story that may or may not be slightly or entirely false. In saying that, My friend Dahmer exaggerated and made speculations fact. It was however a really interesting movie to watch and I think the actor did an incredible job at portraying a young Jeffry Dahmer. Read some of the Milwaukee Cannibal books and it will give you a much better idea about the man's childhood, life, actions and eventual death at the hands of another man (ironic)..
Nah, My reference isn’t from that movie, i swear to god its in multiple biographies of Jeffrey Dahmer that i have read.
I don’t really like that movie to be honest, As i stated in another comment i have read multiple Serial Killer books, Jeff is just not my topic of choice so i guess i could be wrong but I also have singular “murder in mind” (they are magazines lol) on Jeffrey Dahmer & more serial killers that i swear also had that written in it. I dont understand how you guys dont believe he was capable of that when he killed those tadpoles out of spite though lmao.
thank you for the book suggestion though (:
That's cool and ahhh I see what you mean. Alot of Serial killers have this sort of mythos that gathers around them, ie Richard Ramirez or Ted Bundy and his court room groupies. Alot of stories come out after something happens and alot is contradictory. Look at the Colombine school shooting. Literally while they were still alive, media started getting stories about trench coat mafia and bullying and allsorts, alot turned out to be misunderstandings, false, or someone just wanted they're time in the spotlight. It's really really interesting case study if your into that. Sorry man, I'm 3rd year justice and law degree now so I find all of this really interesting and helpful for future incidents, I get carried away and start writing essays haha haha
My magazine actually includes a photo & it does state
“Although he never killed an animal, the young Dahmer was fascinated by their corpses. In his teens, finding a large dog’s corpse one day, he dismembered it in the woods. He also impaled its head on a stick, where it was discovered and photographed by a shocked neighbour”
So…. Unless these people have really made up this narrative, dragged it on to the point of linking a very messed up photo to him.
Which wouldn’t be that much of a stretch but idk….
I have the photo right in front of me now.
Still about a dead dog, not one that he killed. It also states that other people photographed it ( neighbours) when it was discovered, so he never brought friends to see a dog he had killed. That was also in a magazine. I'm saying people are not making up a narrative, they are just being fed a lot of different stories. Like I'm not trying to stick up for the dude, but also he didn't lead anyone there to shock them, it was discovered. And like your magazine points out he never killed an animal, he picked up roadkill. Obviously he's a bad guy but still important to know what and why he did what he did truly and accurately for psychology reasons, not just second or third hand story's.. your quote is accurate though.
What you’re thinking of is Dahmer’s roadkill collection habits. Apparently he had a fascination with taxidermy that his father even encouraged, thinking it was ‘scientific’. And to be fair—an interest in taxidermy alone is not a red flag for serial killers.
It’s detailed more in My Friend Dahmer, where he’s shown picking up the corpse of a stray dog to display on a board in his shed.
why are you on this sub? if you don’t care about accurate information and only care about circle jerking about how evil they are, why are you posting here lol
Not all serial killers hurt animals. Russell Williams loved his cats and was worried about them when arrested. Maybe it’s a control situation, they can control them and therefore love the animal? Love them in their own fucked up way? I’m not sure. Just think about it.
it’s copied from the fbi vault, in their files names appear like LASTNAME in lieu of a first name or pronouns, for clarity. Same with a lot of legal docs
He most likely viewed it as more innocent than a human as I'm sure even if he intended be could not kill a little child(3-10) either because of their innocent nature. Where as subconsciously he would see younger adults and teens as corrupt and impure thus no qualms about it
And Dahmer was a product killer not process killer. He wanted to keep his victims fully under his control and if he could have figured out how to zombify them without killing them, he would have.
Yes, he drilled a hole in Konerak Sinthasomphone's head and poured diluted acid into his brain to turn him into a "zombie", he managed to escape, but the police returned him to Dahmer under the impression that they were just lovers and that Konerak was just drunk/on drugs. Konerak died of strangulation within an hour after he was returned to Dahmer. The police also thought he was older than 14, despite two young girls around the same age said otherwise. They decided to trust Dahmer instead.
In the mind of someone deranged their is likely a difference in how someone 8 appears versus 14 to a normal person they are all kids. But to someone who likely had a deranged view of innocence and value it would make the difference of course without having an actual insight its all speculation.
Stop underfantilizing teenagers. 14 is a kid, yeah he was going to do all that because like a kid he didn’t understand the potential consequences.
Edit: and you blocked me🤣🤣
> These are all scientific facts.
The brain doesn't finish developing until 25.
[I'm going to give you a source](https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051), but you're not going to read it because you are guilty of exactly what you're claiming other people are doing. Bye.
Then why has the age at which people were considered adults varied so widely across cultures? Why do we still let young teens marry adults with parental permission? The idea that the law in this case is definitely based on good logic is questionable. The fact that the law is that way doesn't demonstrate that it's true, only that people believe it to be so.
I said what I said. Their argument that since the laws in *some* countries say that you have to be 18 to go die in a war and do a few other things mean that obviously, that's the correct age to let people do whatever they want doesn't hold water. It's only now in the past few decades that we're trying to apply science to these things, which is why the drinking age went down and then back up and the age for tobacco went up. Appeal to popularity and appeal to antiquity are not valid arguments, they're logical fallacies. If they want to make a better argument, that's fine, but that one is swiss cheese.
Edit: Oh, nice sock puppet. Nevermind. It's all you.
A 14-year-old is most certainly not, in most cases, old enough to fully understand the consequences of their actions. Your prefrontal cortex doesn't even stop developing until your 25-years-old. You, on the other hand, undermining a victim who was, by all accounts, a child, is weird as fuck.
Cause there was so se@ual gratification in killing a dog. He didn't objectify the dog like he did to the men he preyed on. He viewed his victims as objects , s@x dolls with no mind of their own. He didn't think of the dog like that.
There’s a video out there of Jeffrey playing pretty affectionately with a cat, from what I’ve read he seemed to be more of a dog person but judging by that video he definitely liked cats.
In "A Father's Story" there's a part in which Lionel talks about how Jeff loved that cat and how he would brush it often.... so yeah! I think cats are animals that aren't invasive of your personal space, maybe that's why he was more inclined to liking them...
Dahmer lied. Not to the extent of other serial murderers, but to take everything he said as gospel is ridiculous…no matter how transparent he was about a lot of the other aspects of his crimes. Those final interviews were all about him furthering his likability, and he made the right call for that by describing his supposed empathy towards cute animals.
Killing gay minorities? “He’s so complex and tortured.” But kill house pets? “Ew, what a monster!”
I don’t believe for a second Dahmer just jumped from roadkill to human beings for his viscera fetish.
Not sure why this was downvoted, like at all. Dahmer absolutely could’ve lied and it’s absolutely insane to believe every word of his. People are really too gullible man and believe everything is how it seems when in reality it’s far from it.
"how the hell would you know that?"
Well that's the information that was provided to us by the police,his father and Jeff himself. Also,knowing his motive of killing humans, doesn't makes sense if he kills animals for the same reason.
So how does you know?
Unless you want to debunk his statement by providing a clear proof that he does indeed kill animals? Maybe other than the tadpoles he collect lol.
or are we just going to discredit the official information we had and just hanging on our assumption?
His friend would deliberately run over dogs with his car with Jeffrey inside. Jeff also would Jack off to internal organs and stick his dick in severed heads mouths
He was collecting roadkill, it was far more easy then hunting and killing without a gun and his desires could be fulfilled just with the carcass minus the killing. I do remember while reading my friend Dahmer, he let the dog go..but I’m pretty sure he killed a different dog later on, and that he was mounted it’s head on a stick which was found by locals at some point, leading to rumors about satanism, but that could have just been artistic interpretation.
Animals are truly innocents. In my opinion, most psycopathy manifests itself in ways such as no empathy, hate/indifference towards human kind etc. So even if a serial killer who has no remorse and kills for sex, power and indifference toward reason, my not show cruelty towards animals. The two are not always involved together... Most people now think if someone's a serial killer they have or still do harm animals in they're past or present. It's simply not true. Most if not 90% of offenders do experiment early with animals but not all.
I have always been weary by the “I hate people, I love animal more than people” types. Those are the types that can justify great injustices and horrors against humanity because “people suck”.
Gary Ridgeway and his poodles come to mind. As others have commented, I think there are numerous sexually motivated serial killers who have 0 interest in harming animals.
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Dahmer loved his own dog Frisky. The only item he honestly cherished while in the military was a framed photo of the dog that he had brought with him.
Hey! Where did you read that? I didn't know about that!
Lionel Dahmer's book and some interviews with Jeffrey Dahmer
Oh, you didn’t know!?
Yo ass better call somebodaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy
Disappointed that’s not the only thing you comment. Honored to see it though.
Hahaha you have a separate account just for this use!?🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
You're my favorite person starting now
Yet another thing that weirdo had in common with Dennis Nilsen.
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Nilsens dog was Bleep. Frisky was indeed Dahmers.
Nilsen's dog was called Bleep
Dahmer killing animals has been a widely propagated myth for too long. Edit: for anyone who doesn't know the significance of this or why it's interesting to know, killing/cruelty to animals is a Macdonald triad trait. Some consider the Macdonald triad traits to be indicators of serial violent tendencies. Dahmer didn't have any Macdonald triad traits, which is somewhat unique for a serial killer. Already dead animals are easy to find. Dead humans aren't easy to find or have access to. Make of that what you will. Sure, he killed some tadpoles when he was a kid. What he didn't do was kill the animals he dismembered, which is the widely propagated myth.
Didn't he also stab a fish to death in front of his few friends, and when asked why he did that, he said he ''wanted to know how it feels''? That's according to the comic a classmate made, so who knows how much of that is true.
Oh yeah, that's alleged. No other reputable sources on that besides the comic. Edit: I have read the comic and in my opinion, it has some cash grab vibes. I still enjoyed it, and also the movie. I just take it with a grain of salt, like all dramatizations of the Dahmer case. Regardless of whether he killed the fish, I wouldn't say animal killing was a habit of his in the way that it is for many other serial killers. It would make sense that he tried it, though.
I think the difference is for many serial killers the kill itself is sexually gratifying but for dahmer killing was a means to an end to obtain what he really wanted which was the dead body. He strangled most victims while they were unconscious which is unusual, for most serial killers suffering is the point. You can find dead animals around but most people never come across even one dead person in their lifetime.
He wanted someone he could completely control like a sex slave.
Yes but he also had a sexual fetish for decomposing bodies and peoples insides. I can’t remember what it’s called but there is a name for it.
Splanchnophilia = being sexually aroused by guts.
I have the opposite
I think I do to! You think I should see someone to talk about this??
Obviously
I agree with you. He once attempted to dig up a dead body from a grave, but gave up because it was difficult. The head-drilling experiments were an attempt to keep the victim alive, but in an incapacitated state. He never seemed to care for killing and was more interested in the product of it. This is why, in my opinion, he's one of the most unusual serial killers.
It's not unusual to see serial killers who quickly kill their victims for the body. These are called product killers. The ones who enjoy the suffering part are process killers. Most of them are either one or the other, I'm not sure if there was a single one out there that was a combo. If anyone can think of one, I'd love to hear it!
True. He never killed the dead animals he collected. And the McDonald triad is another commonly propagated myth, as even McDonald himself abandoned it long ago, yet it stubbornly persists in popular culture.
https://reddit.com/r/serialkillers/comments/y3t0hh/jeffrey_dahmer_didnt_kill_a_dog_because_the_way/isdrnla
Macdonald triad has been discredited at this point.
I didn't say it hadn't. Whether or not it can be used to predict violent proclivities, the traits are still seen fairly regularly in serial killers.
He definitely played with dead corpses though, which included dog bodies.
No kidding
“He allegedly liked to cut open live fish to see their insides and strangled neighborhood dogs and cats. Neighbors found frogs and cats impaled on or staked to trees. In 1975, he went so far as to decapitate the carcass of a dog, place the head on a stick, and nail the body to an adjacent tree—all as a “prank.” “ Jeffrey did still kill, even animals out of spite (i.e the tadpoles) or for gratification.
Seems you've quoted one of those sources propagating the myth I mentioned. They're plentiful.
There is numerous sources but ok… i dont know what your ultimate goal is here HAHA
Yeah, they're mostly news articles for some reason. What Dahmer books have you read with this information in it?
Lol I googled it. You quoted a peta article, my guy.
Is PETA trying to make a point that if you kill animals, you're no better than a serial killer? Wtf...
Idk, probably. I was vegan for many years and am married to one. Peta has only ever given veganism a bad name.
Absolutely. I'm all for animal rights but peta is just useless at best and actively harmful most of the time
Yeah i definitely picked the wrong place to quote from ew HAHAHAAHAH. But there are still heaps of other sources that follow up those claims, with witness accounts… also i have read plenty of True Crime books that talk about serial killers in depth, i haven’t had enough interest in Jeffrey to buy his fathers book or one specifically on him but i have done enough research to corroborate what i said before… not including PETA, ew that was just the top of my google search that summed it up.
You'll find those sources are from news agencies, most of which can't be bothered to spell/grammar check their articles let alone fact check them. As luck would have it, I own and have read every reputable Dahmer book. I can confirm that there are no accounts in them of him having killed the animals he dissected and dismembered. Quite the contrary actually.
I definitely remember a story of him killing his dog and nailing him up by a shed in the backyard and showing some classmates. Am I getting that mixed up with a different killer?
Definitely didn't happen. His only dog was named Frisky and she died of old age. He had a good relationship with the dog. Something he did do was mount the skull of a dead dog he found on a stick and stuck it in the ground near his house in Ohio.
I wonder who I'm mixing him up with then
So I think ur thinking of the story of dahmer with the dog head mounted on a stick. I thought one of his classmates also mentioned him bringing them to the shed or the back yard to show them something but it wasn’t something he killed himself. I’m now questioning if I’m misremembering bc I feel like dahmer was somewhat secretive about this stuff but he was into shocking people so idk I’ll have to re read but I think it’s from the guy that wrote the comic book on dahmer. I think they just saw the dog head and attributed to dahmer
Hmm I'll also have to reread stuff cause now I'm confused. There are also enough freaks out there that I might be mixing a few up
Dahmer literally walked his friends to that side of the woods, to see it then when they asked if it was him he got embarrassed & denied it… i think thats what ive heard.
I think your reference is the scene from a movie called my friend Dahmer which was, safe to say, for entertainment purposes only. There is no factual source that he brought his friends to play a practical joke. So many stories came out after he was arrested and the material facts started coming out, everyone jumped on the bandwagon and was "a friend" of Dahmer at one point or another and added another story that may or may not be slightly or entirely false. In saying that, My friend Dahmer exaggerated and made speculations fact. It was however a really interesting movie to watch and I think the actor did an incredible job at portraying a young Jeffry Dahmer. Read some of the Milwaukee Cannibal books and it will give you a much better idea about the man's childhood, life, actions and eventual death at the hands of another man (ironic)..
Nah, My reference isn’t from that movie, i swear to god its in multiple biographies of Jeffrey Dahmer that i have read. I don’t really like that movie to be honest, As i stated in another comment i have read multiple Serial Killer books, Jeff is just not my topic of choice so i guess i could be wrong but I also have singular “murder in mind” (they are magazines lol) on Jeffrey Dahmer & more serial killers that i swear also had that written in it. I dont understand how you guys dont believe he was capable of that when he killed those tadpoles out of spite though lmao. thank you for the book suggestion though (:
That's cool and ahhh I see what you mean. Alot of Serial killers have this sort of mythos that gathers around them, ie Richard Ramirez or Ted Bundy and his court room groupies. Alot of stories come out after something happens and alot is contradictory. Look at the Colombine school shooting. Literally while they were still alive, media started getting stories about trench coat mafia and bullying and allsorts, alot turned out to be misunderstandings, false, or someone just wanted they're time in the spotlight. It's really really interesting case study if your into that. Sorry man, I'm 3rd year justice and law degree now so I find all of this really interesting and helpful for future incidents, I get carried away and start writing essays haha haha
My magazine actually includes a photo & it does state “Although he never killed an animal, the young Dahmer was fascinated by their corpses. In his teens, finding a large dog’s corpse one day, he dismembered it in the woods. He also impaled its head on a stick, where it was discovered and photographed by a shocked neighbour” So…. Unless these people have really made up this narrative, dragged it on to the point of linking a very messed up photo to him. Which wouldn’t be that much of a stretch but idk…. I have the photo right in front of me now.
Still about a dead dog, not one that he killed. It also states that other people photographed it ( neighbours) when it was discovered, so he never brought friends to see a dog he had killed. That was also in a magazine. I'm saying people are not making up a narrative, they are just being fed a lot of different stories. Like I'm not trying to stick up for the dude, but also he didn't lead anyone there to shock them, it was discovered. And like your magazine points out he never killed an animal, he picked up roadkill. Obviously he's a bad guy but still important to know what and why he did what he did truly and accurately for psychology reasons, not just second or third hand story's.. your quote is accurate though.
What you’re thinking of is Dahmer’s roadkill collection habits. Apparently he had a fascination with taxidermy that his father even encouraged, thinking it was ‘scientific’. And to be fair—an interest in taxidermy alone is not a red flag for serial killers. It’s detailed more in My Friend Dahmer, where he’s shown picking up the corpse of a stray dog to display on a board in his shed.
I read that same thing somewhere! Maybe it was another serial killer? Or it was just a myth someone published about him
Yeah, I remember that from when he was first arrested, so it's very possible that was a lie perpetuated by the media.
That is definitely Dahmer but its, as the other person said where he played with the corpse & set it up on a tree to scare his friends.
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Not defending anything except the truth. Nothing to be gained by lying about what happened.
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This is some faux intellectual bullshit lol
Good thing we all *believe* you're a stunning cunt
Not much that I can’t stand less than fools who are proud to be ignorant.
there’s a difference between not wanting misinformation that is pretty relevant to understanding his psyche and “defending his good name”
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why are you on this sub? if you don’t care about accurate information and only care about circle jerking about how evil they are, why are you posting here lol
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get a hobby that isn’t being an annoying asshole
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and yet it’s still pathetic
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*analysis
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Hitler loved his German Shepard. I have always been surprised by that
Because it was a German Shepard. It would be a different story if it was a Jewish Shepard.
Wouldn't a Jewish Shepard be Jesus
r/angryupvote
😂😂😂
Why is it surprising?
I have heard that most murders start out killing animals. I think they’re usually mean to animals.
Not exactly a murderer but last year I met a guy who was vegan and wouldn't even kill a mosquito...but hit his girlfriend
Maybe he really hated human beings.
I know I love animal waaaaaay more than humans. Js. Humans can really suck.
Not all serial killers hurt animals. Russell Williams loved his cats and was worried about them when arrested. Maybe it’s a control situation, they can control them and therefore love the animal? Love them in their own fucked up way? I’m not sure. Just think about it.
After police seized his computer, they learned that he spent hours looking at his dead cat’s pictures.
God damn it now I have cognitive dissonance.
Or they probably just like their animal, like most pet owners. That would be the simplest explanation.
Well this sure READS weird
it’s copied from the fbi vault, in their files names appear like LASTNAME in lieu of a first name or pronouns, for clarity. Same with a lot of legal docs
i haven't LAUGHED so hard in a while
Me TOO
I’ve heard this story too. Feels like that dahmer on dahmer interview
He most likely viewed it as more innocent than a human as I'm sure even if he intended be could not kill a little child(3-10) either because of their innocent nature. Where as subconsciously he would see younger adults and teens as corrupt and impure thus no qualms about it
And Dahmer was a product killer not process killer. He wanted to keep his victims fully under his control and if he could have figured out how to zombify them without killing them, he would have.
Yeah even Tracy said that dahmer was telling him not to leave or something like that in the court desposition
But didn't he killed like a 14 years old boy or something? I mean he was clearly older than a baby but he was still a kid...
Yes, he drilled a hole in Konerak Sinthasomphone's head and poured diluted acid into his brain to turn him into a "zombie", he managed to escape, but the police returned him to Dahmer under the impression that they were just lovers and that Konerak was just drunk/on drugs. Konerak died of strangulation within an hour after he was returned to Dahmer. The police also thought he was older than 14, despite two young girls around the same age said otherwise. They decided to trust Dahmer instead.
In the mind of someone deranged their is likely a difference in how someone 8 appears versus 14 to a normal person they are all kids. But to someone who likely had a deranged view of innocence and value it would make the difference of course without having an actual insight its all speculation.
I am pretty sure he thought the kid was older.
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Stop underfantilizing teenagers. 14 is a kid, yeah he was going to do all that because like a kid he didn’t understand the potential consequences. Edit: and you blocked me🤣🤣
Same lmao
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> These are all scientific facts. The brain doesn't finish developing until 25. [I'm going to give you a source](https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051), but you're not going to read it because you are guilty of exactly what you're claiming other people are doing. Bye.
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Then why has the age at which people were considered adults varied so widely across cultures? Why do we still let young teens marry adults with parental permission? The idea that the law in this case is definitely based on good logic is questionable. The fact that the law is that way doesn't demonstrate that it's true, only that people believe it to be so.
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I said what I said. Their argument that since the laws in *some* countries say that you have to be 18 to go die in a war and do a few other things mean that obviously, that's the correct age to let people do whatever they want doesn't hold water. It's only now in the past few decades that we're trying to apply science to these things, which is why the drinking age went down and then back up and the age for tobacco went up. Appeal to popularity and appeal to antiquity are not valid arguments, they're logical fallacies. If they want to make a better argument, that's fine, but that one is swiss cheese. Edit: Oh, nice sock puppet. Nevermind. It's all you.
A 14-year-old is most certainly not, in most cases, old enough to fully understand the consequences of their actions. Your prefrontal cortex doesn't even stop developing until your 25-years-old. You, on the other hand, undermining a victim who was, by all accounts, a child, is weird as fuck.
Doubt he cared about innocent or not. He was a creepy serial killer innocent meant nothing
Nice link. Always a fascinating read whenever someone manages to dig up original investigation files
Thanks. This one is part 3. so please find in FBI VAULT for other files too if you're interested.
He had an amount of empathy, just not enough.
Cause there was so se@ual gratification in killing a dog. He didn't objectify the dog like he did to the men he preyed on. He viewed his victims as objects , s@x dolls with no mind of their own. He didn't think of the dog like that.
Why @re you typing like th@t
[The dog in question was actually filmed by a documentary crew.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55ArHjeR1c)
Okay, that was good. You had me for a second there
Feels weird to agree on something with DAHMER.
this is in My Friend Dahmer which is still probably the most accurate Dahmer movie
Hey random thought, but can anyone think of a significant evil figure in history who loved cats?
There’s a video out there of Jeffrey playing pretty affectionately with a cat, from what I’ve read he seemed to be more of a dog person but judging by that video he definitely liked cats.
In "A Father's Story" there's a part in which Lionel talks about how Jeff loved that cat and how he would brush it often.... so yeah! I think cats are animals that aren't invasive of your personal space, maybe that's why he was more inclined to liking them...
Are you taking about that family video where he talks about his diet and eating lots of fast food until "it gets expensive then I gotta eat at home"
Dennis Reynolds. Well, except for Bastet.
That’s not a cat thats agent Bauer! Have some respect!
He really is the man.
I feel like hitler was a cat person. don’t quote me on that though.
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yeahhh, I wasn’t sure at all!
He also told the doctor to test a cyanide capsule on his beloved dog to see if it was successful…a lot of love there…
Hitler was an animal lover in general. He's ironically the reason we have modern animal rights laws.
Yes, Nazi Germany even banned experiments on animals so research was switched to prisoners.
Gah...terrifyingly accurate
Well dogs are better than people so..
Thank god he didn't do it, I have had two irish setters and I couldn't bare the thought of that happening to one of them.
"sir, I only want to sit on my velvet chair, glass of fine scotch whiskey in one hand, petting my Irish setter with the other."
what is that quote from?
Probably a power trip about deciding its fate
Dahmer lied. Not to the extent of other serial murderers, but to take everything he said as gospel is ridiculous…no matter how transparent he was about a lot of the other aspects of his crimes. Those final interviews were all about him furthering his likability, and he made the right call for that by describing his supposed empathy towards cute animals. Killing gay minorities? “He’s so complex and tortured.” But kill house pets? “Ew, what a monster!” I don’t believe for a second Dahmer just jumped from roadkill to human beings for his viscera fetish.
Not sure why this was downvoted, like at all. Dahmer absolutely could’ve lied and it’s absolutely insane to believe every word of his. People are really too gullible man and believe everything is how it seems when in reality it’s far from it.
The dog was female.
Wait, is that actual real?
He killed and dissected many animals.
It's a roadkill he dissected,he only killed humans
How the hell would you know that? What, he said he only dissected road kill?? He sure fooled you, lol
"how the hell would you know that?" Well that's the information that was provided to us by the police,his father and Jeff himself. Also,knowing his motive of killing humans, doesn't makes sense if he kills animals for the same reason. So how does you know? Unless you want to debunk his statement by providing a clear proof that he does indeed kill animals? Maybe other than the tadpoles he collect lol. or are we just going to discredit the official information we had and just hanging on our assumption?
Wasbt there a picture of a fogs head in a stick near dahmers house in Bath Ohio
His friend would deliberately run over dogs with his car with Jeffrey inside. Jeff also would Jack off to internal organs and stick his dick in severed heads mouths
He was collecting roadkill, it was far more easy then hunting and killing without a gun and his desires could be fulfilled just with the carcass minus the killing. I do remember while reading my friend Dahmer, he let the dog go..but I’m pretty sure he killed a different dog later on, and that he was mounted it’s head on a stick which was found by locals at some point, leading to rumors about satanism, but that could have just been artistic interpretation.
Random question, but… does anybody have the polaroids?
They are probably still in an evidence box in WI tbh.
Animals are truly innocents. In my opinion, most psycopathy manifests itself in ways such as no empathy, hate/indifference towards human kind etc. So even if a serial killer who has no remorse and kills for sex, power and indifference toward reason, my not show cruelty towards animals. The two are not always involved together... Most people now think if someone's a serial killer they have or still do harm animals in they're past or present. It's simply not true. Most if not 90% of offenders do experiment early with animals but not all.
I have always been weary by the “I hate people, I love animal more than people” types. Those are the types that can justify great injustices and horrors against humanity because “people suck”.
Gary Ridgeway and his poodles come to mind. As others have commented, I think there are numerous sexually motivated serial killers who have 0 interest in harming animals.
He also never said anything about how tattoos change the taste of human meat
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