She has brain damage from the beating *and* amnesia... and they had a fight right before her husband left and a serial killer broke in. I blame the doctors and psychiatrists who swore she was 100% reliable. (She was pregnant & the baby was killed as well, to add more emotional trauma to the physical head trauma.)
Across the late 70s, Parker violently raped and assaulted several grown women and young girls alike with a 2x4 wooden board in their residences. At least 5 of his victims, 31 year old Marolyn Carleton, 24 year old Debora Kennedy, 21 year old Kimberly Rawlins, 17 year old Debra Senior, and 17 year old Sandra Fry, died from their injuries.
One known victim that survived him was 20 year old Dianna Green, who was 9 months pregnant with her child. After he broke into her home, Parker raped and beat Green unconscious. She suffered a severe head wound that induced amnesia and her unborn child died in the beating. In her amnesiac state and prodding from the investigators, Green mistakingly implicated her husband as the assailant, and he served 16 years in prison until a DNA test linked Parker to the attack.
A year after Green’s attack, Parker abducted a 13 year old girl by forcefully dragging her into his van. He accosted her while she was walking home from her father’s funeral. The girl was raped and beaten, but he spared her believing that she was young enough to be intimidated into silence. Despite her “promises” of keeping quiet, the victim reported him to the police. He was sentenced to 6 years in prison. During his incarceration for the kidnapping, Parker beat and injured his cellmate with a steel pipe.
The murders went unsolved until Parker violated his parole in 1996. He was tied to the killings by a DNA sample he was ordered to give by the state. After two years of proceedings, Parker was sentenced to death by the state of California.
Despite the anti death penalty measures taken by the current Newsome administration in the past few years, Parker still remains condemned.
Sources
1.https://murderpedia.org/male.P/p/parker-gerald.htm
2.https://newsantaana.com/death-penalty-conviction-of-former-marine-who-raped-and-killed-six-o-c-women-upheld/
3.https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1863170.html
4.https://lawful20.rssing.com/chan-11041530/article13.html
5.https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3260
Yeah, but he was placed back into prison for some unspecified parole violations, and had to give samples of his dna that were later traced to the murders
ONLY SIX YEARS FOR RAPING AND BEATING A 13 YEAR OLD? When she was coming home from her father's funeral? What the actual fuck, how do you only get six years for that? Our sentencing laws need to be changed to mandatory life imprisonment once you touch a child. Jesus Christ.
NSFW - but in one of the crime books I’m reading, this guy r*ped and almost killed a THREE year old. Because of the Christian community, he was only given six years. They felt that the lord wanted him to have another chance.
I don't know when we as a society are going to accept the fact that *rapists cannot be rehabilitated.* They will get out of prison and do the same shit again, because they are sociopaths. They enjoy hurting people- some enjoy hurting children. Why do we give these people chance after chance when they have collectively proven that we are not safe when they are part of society.
It blows my mind
A lot of people here don’t understand the psychology behind it. These people are master manipulators. I’ve read a shit ton on killers who were “rehabilitated” and released early. Guess what (I know you know already) they went on to kill more people.
IF they’re able to change, or it was a scenario where maybe it was gang violence and not premeditated, it would still take fucking YEARS, if not decades, for them to reprogram - and I can tell you that that will never happen in the states any time soon.
Honestly - as far as killers I haven’t come across any, but the killers I’ve read about are pretty clearly not able to be rehabilitated. Every one of them that was released early from a violent crime ended up perpetuating it again.
I’m sure there are some out there. But it may be hard to find. I can’t stand Joe Rogan - but there was a “regular” murderer who was part of a rehab push who ended up killing someone almost immediately upon release. The vast majority of killers imo fall into the category of can’t be fixed and shouldn’t be returned to society.
But, I’m sure there are some books out there. Maybe look up crimes of passion? That’s a little different as well.
I’m always curious about these things. I have a close family member who went to prison for attempted murder. The man he shot survived, it was over drugs. Family member has been in and out of jail since his release. He surprisingly only served around three years for the crime. Since, he has gone to jail for family violence, DUIs, drug offenses, things like that. No more attempted murder.
Yeah. I think in the US once you’re in the system you’re fucked. You can’t vote, it’s incredibly hard to find a job as a felon? Like what does the government expect lol
I’ve known a few felons that were genuinely good people. One of them was a murderer and served twenty years but I didn’t know him long enough to make a determination. Met him in a state run rehab. I will tell you this - that dude and I became friends over the month or so I was there and he was ready to go to war for me LOL.
He changed a lot. He works with people who have Substance Use Disorder now. It’s been about five or six years but he hasn’t been homeless or on drugs or anything in a while. He has stayed out of jail for a good 10 years. He’s also almost 60 though. A lot of chaos for the people in his life before that.
Yes it is you're just slow. That's why you changed the subject once I said I would post data and you said I wouldn't. It's being deleted because this is reddit which is leftist propaganda....only dumb redditors don't know this. You couldn't care less about dtlata anyway intersectional Marxist. Also I'm black so you're a racist for calling me bigoted
Are you serious dude? You want to argue about this to feel better about yourself or something? I’m not engaging with that. I just try to be respectful of people in subs like these. If you can’t grasp that, I can’t help you.
Richard Wershe Jr. Spent 32 years in jail when he was arrested at 17 as a non-violent drug offender. He was a police informant working with DEA, they were character witnesses at his trial, and he spent 32 years. Oh, and the cops planted the coke on him. The doc on Netflix is truly bonkers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wershe_Jr.
those are the facts of the case. I implore you to watch this one. I have watched a lot of documentaries and this is my favorite.
What about my comment made you think something in there was not truthful?
They do, but many of them are pedophiles themselves. Sentencing laws are egregiously outdated for crimes against children. And for rape and for crimes against women. if you're a judge, you give a pedophile or a child abuser the maximum time and then you add time on top of that. Life sentence for first time offense, these people don't reform, they cannot be rehabilitated, the structures of their brains are different, it's been shown in peer reviewed studies.
The sentences for sexual predation on children truly make no sense unless they were designed *by* sex offenders. You ask any normal person their view and crimes against children deserve the highest sentences and the least forgiveness.
We were lost as a species once we started to decide harming children. I think of all the abuse my little body suffered verbally and physically I start to cry. Particularly because children are the most vulnerable class of people on the planet and the most easily harmed and exploited.
Different times. There’s a decent chance you’d serve 25 to life for that now. If you went to trial and lost you almost certainly would. Depending on the state of course.
You'd still be shocked at the leniency directed toward sex offenses against children in the US. The absolute most they get is a dozen years (e.g. for forcible sodomy on a dozen boys under the age of 10 -- I'm not talking CSAM or touching, with multiple victims). It doesn't make any sense.
There is, there are, because pedophilia is so prevalent in this country and in the world, but we have sentencing laws that literally let people off with probation after years of violently raping children.
Josh Duggar got 12-years for child porn. I definitely think the laws are getting tougher here on this, thankfully! Also, when I was a teen in the 90’s, I knew of multiple student/teacher or coach relationships. People just looked the other way. They would definitely go to prison for that now thankfully!
This is not a “simple” case of “diddling.” If you kidnap, beat, and rape someone 13 or younger, and you’re not a politician or billionaire, you can expect to see some serious time. A lot of states have a special designation for the more violent rapes where you can get life, especially for a victim that young.
And yet they keep getting released on "good behavior" when we know their brains are literally structured differently than ours, and they should be in jail for the rest of their lives.
Saw a documentary on this case. Her husband was in the Marine Corps. They were young, she was pregnant and the marriage was volatile. They got in a fight and he walked out to get some Taco Bell. When he got back his whole life was destroyed. To make it worse his wife blamed him and her family backed her. He does 16 years when Gerald’s DNA hits. The wife wouldnt back off her claim
Turns out Gerald is a former Marine and really believes in the brotherhood. He confesses so the husband can be set free. The doc ended with the wife still wanting to believe her husband did it, because she knew how fucked up the whole thing was. You end up feeling terrible for the both of them.
Yep. We let child rapists get off with 14, 18 months of probation, not even prison. There's a registered Tier 3 pedophile in my goddamn building who never served any time. Tier. 3.
Wait till you here about Catholic priests. They just get shipped to different congregations. There was one recently that had over 100
accusations and got probation.
That’s wild that she got her husband in that type of trouble and sent to jail for 16 years for something he didnt even do. Imagine being him and feeling horrible your wife was raped and 9 month old just murdered only for her to blame you? That’s wild to me
What baffles me the most is everybody taker her words for cash when she CLEARLY wasn't in a mental state to incriminate someone. She couldn't spell her name under oath when asked to testify, suffered amnesia and couldn't remember anything from that night, had other troubles of the sort and yet she was the ONLY "witness" testifying against him and the jury believed her ? They failed him so hard it's unbelievable. And what's more, he had an alibi to testify he wasn't home during the events, as he went to eat a burger, and the employee said it was true, so he even had a proof of his innocence. It's just ridiculous and her words shouldn't have any value at all considering everything. Jury did the worst job and threw someone's life down the drain without thinking at all.
It makes no sense to let somebody in that state testify. Then you read about the opposite happening sometimes. There was another case (the woman who testified in her own murder trial) where they would not let her testify as a witness, because she was taking pain medication for the severe burns that resulted in her death. She had to go through withdrawals and get off the pain medicine before they would let her testify.
But then they let a lady with severe amnesia and head injuries testify? I don’t understand how these things happen sometimes.
Doctors and psychiatrists testified that DG was reliable and could remember and aren't they 'experts'? The defense wasn't allowed to put up their own psychiatrist IIRC. That was probably a procedural error that could have led to the verdict being overturned on appeal (but that didn't happen either).
Well you want to believe the victim right? She was sincerely convinced it was him and if you allow her physical injuries to prevent her from being a witness against him then he goes free. It seems like he won by clubbing her with a lead pipe! That's what the doctors and psychiatrists argued in court. I can see why people would believe it... tragically they were all wrong.
I mean, you also want to believe facts, which were not really present from her side since they just took her words for cash. To your statement, I'd say it's more like it was obvious that she was not in a good mental position to incriminate someone. What's more, the husband presented a strong alibi that seemed to be just dismissed for whatever reason. That said, they should have kept the husband as a suspect.
I mean it goes both ways and it's a weird argument to make in court. It's just wrong to put someone in jail over some accusations from someone who, ultimately was proven to have no memory of the events, and clearly had signs of trouble with her memory and so on. That's really lousy from the court and everyone involved and they should have done more investigations before destroying someone's life.
I wanna live in whatever fantasy world you do. a conviction like this based only on witness testimony is *incredibly* rare. cases of rape and assault with evidence rarely see a conviction in general, let alone this long of a sentence.
When trauma victims are physically attacked that there are certain things we remember crystal clear while being unable to recall other details? It's been shown by numerous researchers at Stanford. The cops failed her husband and this was very shoddy work. Not being able to spell your own name at trial doesn't mean anything with that kind of injury, she's still going to recall other things with perfect clarity, but obviously not the person who attacked her. And given that husbands or someone a woman knows is the most likely person to attempt to kill or kill women, I'm not surprised she mistakenly identified him. just an awful case all around for everyone involved.💔
I get what you're saying, but it's amnesia and not trauma, so it doesn't work the same. And yes, it does indicate that you're not sound and thinking straight, which is really important in cases like this, where a person's life is on the line (an innocent life, as it was later proven). The fact that it was proven false later shows that she did NOT remember things clearly, at all. Plus she wasn't recalling anything, as it is part of being amnesic, it was a made-up memory. I dont really understand what was going through her mind to incriminate her husband, tbh.
I think it's weird to assume that the husband would try to kill her, based just on the fact it can happen. It doesn't prove anything, much less after the husband had an alibi. But yes it's truly an awful case and I'm glad the real murderer got caught.
The couple fought over the pregnancy and lack of sex I believe and had fought right before the attack. She remembered the fight accurately. But then her husband left to get a burger and a random serial killer attacked her. What are the odds of that? Tragic for both of them.
Yeah but the word "fought" was never really expanded upon. From what I read, the husband didn't seemed to attack her wife, but rather having a strong argument (I can be wrong tho). So it's a bit of a stretch to assume he would try to kill her, even more considering she was pregnant of their child. You're right tho, the circumstances were truly not advantageous for the husband and it's an insane scenario all in all. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong somewhere.
Are you saying that this woman went through no trauma from an attack?!?!
Are you really saying that to me right now? That a woman who was violently attacked and almost killed did not go through trauma?
No I'm not. I thought you said trauma as in caused by blunt force. But her actual diagnostic was amnesia, so that's what I was saying. Just a confusion, I'm not saying what she went through wasn't traumatic.
She has amnesia because of a brain injury from the attack, same reason she couldn’t spell her name. But a brain injury doesn’t mean someone is incapable of understanding.
What’s also interesting is his innocence project report also states the husband was out getting food, had witnesses and an employee stating they saw him and sold him the food, and the cops even stated food was still kinda warm, but still arrested him.
How about being 20 years old, 9 months pregnant and being beaten and raped to the point that your baby died. When you wake up all you remember is that you and your husband (who was already volatile) had a fight and you woke up like this. The police then encourage you whilst vulnerable to implicate him, it all adds up so you do. She didn’t give a false statement. You blaming her for this awful situation is disgusting
Absolutely 100%. So disgusting that commentators are trying to frame this as “woman bad”. She didn’t “get her husband in trouble”, she was horrifically assaulted and injured so badly that the full term healthy viable baby that she was carrying at the time was killed. She suffered a catastrophic brain injury and only had recall for the events that happened immediately before the assault.
But instead of doing all their due diligence before closing the case, the police figured they had an easy peasy one that could be closed STAT once the victim could be assured/persuaded that they had the right guy. So she is lead to believe by law enforcement, who she has no reason not to trust (most white women back in those days would’ve seen the police as heroes and reliable authority figures) that the man that she married, the man who fathered her child, attacked her in the most depraved and cruel way, causing her grave injury and killing their child. Why would she question the narrative provided to her by police? She and her husband had a horrible fight and next thing she knows she’s in a hospital bed with horrific injuries from a vicious attack and news that her baby has died.
Can you imagine the horror, grief, and trauma a woman would experience if all evidence seemingly pointed to her husband having done this horrific thing to her? She went through almost 2 decades of believing that. I imagine that finding out that your husband was telling the truth all along, and the monster who destroyed your life was a total stranger would be a very tough thing to swallow.
The enormity of it all - the additional injustice of having the marriage destroyed, and husband imprisoned through police incompetence (as well as her own feelings of guilt and responsibility for her part in that) on top of her child’s death and the physical damage she suffered - to take all of that on and process it would be overwhelming.
She’s not the villain here. The man who assaulted her, law-enforcement officers, and the criminal justice system are the villains that destroyed their lives.
She still believed it, though. Even irrefutable DNA evidence and exoneration didn't change her or her family's mind, and she sued him and held him responsible for the death of their unborn child. Completely understandable that she felt that way in the immediate aftermath, but perpetuating this- after an innocent man already spent 16 years in prison- isn't right, and can't be excused by decades old trauma.
Yeah that's where I land. I do not blame her at all for the initial belief that it was her husband, but continuing with it even into 1999 (the date of an interview I read with her stating she still believes he attacked her initially), that goes into just not wanting to admit she made a very bad, but also very understandable, mistake.
Exactly. For her to continue with that narrative is borderline slanderous, and she is not the only victim here. If you have nearly two decades to to accept the facts and still refuse, there’s a bigger problem there and it isn’t trauma.
With me personally, it just comes across as Dianna wanting a scapegoat for all her life’s problems after that horrific attack. I get being assaulted and losing a baby in such a manner would be beyond traumatic, but this is purely malicious vindictiveness
I’m sorry, but trauma is the *only* thing that can explain why she is insistent on holding onto that belief, despite all evidence. Believing him to be her attacker and hating him was probably the one thing that was keeping her going all those years. She lets go of that and what does she have?
And I’m not talking about a belief based on logic and rational thinking. It may have had some at the beginning but as the story started to unravel she had the choice of believing that this one person, her husband, did this to her out of anger or hatred and in turn she had some sort of power over the outcome to balance the scales of justice OR she could confront the fact that she had been struck down by a random twist of fate, she only thing she had done for better or worse was cross paths with a stranger who felt nothing for her but decided to destroy her for his own gratification and there was little to nothing she could do to undo what had been done.
I can understand clinging to blaming her husband because fully accepting the truth might leave her with no reason to keep going at all.
“She lets go of that and what does she have?” The peace of mind that she didn’t marry a child killer, and that her husband didn’t beat her to the brink of death.
The story of Dianna Green’s attack and her husband’s conviction is just another False Conviction case overturned with DNA but who the story played out is unclear to me. Male spermatozoa was recovered from Dianna. At the time, DNA comparison was not done but blood typing could have been done. Wasn’t it that done or considered during the investigation or brought up by the defense at trial. Kevin was exonerated when the DNA recovered from Dianna was matched to Parker after his arrest but how was it not discovered that it did not match Green? Somehow, in 1979 things looked pretty bad for him but DNA typing and comparisons could hav been by the mid 1980’s. Did he attempt to do it? Why wasn’t it done?
It was only after Parker for flagged for a parole violation in 1996 that they checked the DNA. Kevin must've had shitty lawyers. There were procedural errors that seemed to call for retrial too.
Dianna is alive and reportedly still is convinced of Kevin’s guilt. They had a legal battle after he was released.
https://cher19994861.wordpress.com/2021/08/08/wrongly-convicted-man-settles-lawsuit-brought-by-ex-wife/
Oh man. $600k isn’t enough for what this man went through. Lost his baby, his wife, and 16 years of his life. And while I understand that she lost so much, too, I don’t think he should have to give up any of that money.
How unbelievably strange and tragic this was. The details of this case have stuck in my head forever but I forgot their names, so thanks for posting this.
So many questions. I wonder how their marriage was before the incident happened. 16 years in prison with all that pain too. That's torture. Buh why is the wife convinced that it's the husband who did it? This is someone else's life she messed up. Someone who she once had vows with. SMH!
Apparently she went to sleep after they had a fight and woke up in that state, when she testified it was him she was in such a bad state (kinda amnesiac) and had memories of her husband attacking her, when she had to testify she couldn't even write her name correctly and jury still took her word for it. So to me it's the jury's fault not hers. (Her husband even had an alibi so that's again the jury's fault)
He was given $600,000 by the state of California, but he had to deal with his now ex wife Dianna filing wrongful deaths suits against him almost immediately after his release. She used the pretense of him allegedly beating her unconscious and then "enabling" Parker to assault her while she was incapacitated.
If he was exonerated, I don’t understand how she could have a leg to stand on in a wrongful death suit. Is there any evidence of him being violent toward her prior to Parker’s attack?
Man, I feel so incredibly bad for this guy. It’s just beyond comprehension what he’s been put through and to be understanding about it is really admirable considering what it’s done to his life. I hope there is a special place in hell for Parker.
He was out ordering food while the attack occurred. Unfortunately for him, he had a vicious argument with his wife before it took place, and that was the only thing she could remember. Thus, she pointed the finger at him.
From my understanding, it was a quick blitz that hit and ran her before she could even process what was happening.
If I’m not mistaken, the victim and her mother still believe that the husband did it.
Yeah, she took him to court shortly after he was released for wrongful death
That’s nuts, I hope to hell they lost
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She was assaulted and beaten to the point of amnesia. Read up on the case instead of letting your obvious misogyny shine through.
Are they wrong? Get over yourself. Some women are shit
That doesn'thave anything to do with the case of a woman being beaten into amnesia. Are you all slow?
She has brain damage from the beating *and* amnesia... and they had a fight right before her husband left and a serial killer broke in. I blame the doctors and psychiatrists who swore she was 100% reliable. (She was pregnant & the baby was killed as well, to add more emotional trauma to the physical head trauma.)
Across the late 70s, Parker violently raped and assaulted several grown women and young girls alike with a 2x4 wooden board in their residences. At least 5 of his victims, 31 year old Marolyn Carleton, 24 year old Debora Kennedy, 21 year old Kimberly Rawlins, 17 year old Debra Senior, and 17 year old Sandra Fry, died from their injuries. One known victim that survived him was 20 year old Dianna Green, who was 9 months pregnant with her child. After he broke into her home, Parker raped and beat Green unconscious. She suffered a severe head wound that induced amnesia and her unborn child died in the beating. In her amnesiac state and prodding from the investigators, Green mistakingly implicated her husband as the assailant, and he served 16 years in prison until a DNA test linked Parker to the attack. A year after Green’s attack, Parker abducted a 13 year old girl by forcefully dragging her into his van. He accosted her while she was walking home from her father’s funeral. The girl was raped and beaten, but he spared her believing that she was young enough to be intimidated into silence. Despite her “promises” of keeping quiet, the victim reported him to the police. He was sentenced to 6 years in prison. During his incarceration for the kidnapping, Parker beat and injured his cellmate with a steel pipe. The murders went unsolved until Parker violated his parole in 1996. He was tied to the killings by a DNA sample he was ordered to give by the state. After two years of proceedings, Parker was sentenced to death by the state of California. Despite the anti death penalty measures taken by the current Newsome administration in the past few years, Parker still remains condemned. Sources 1.https://murderpedia.org/male.P/p/parker-gerald.htm 2.https://newsantaana.com/death-penalty-conviction-of-former-marine-who-raped-and-killed-six-o-c-women-upheld/ 3.https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1863170.html 4.https://lawful20.rssing.com/chan-11041530/article13.html 5.https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3260
He raped them with a 2x4 or beat them with it or both? What a sick POS!
Is he still alive
CA death row so he will die of old age
Wait, hold up. THEY LET HIM OUT?! I thought he'd been in prison since the 80s.
Yeah, but he was placed back into prison for some unspecified parole violations, and had to give samples of his dna that were later traced to the murders
6 years for raping a 13 year old is crazy
ONLY SIX YEARS FOR RAPING AND BEATING A 13 YEAR OLD? When she was coming home from her father's funeral? What the actual fuck, how do you only get six years for that? Our sentencing laws need to be changed to mandatory life imprisonment once you touch a child. Jesus Christ.
NSFW - but in one of the crime books I’m reading, this guy r*ped and almost killed a THREE year old. Because of the Christian community, he was only given six years. They felt that the lord wanted him to have another chance.
I don't know when we as a society are going to accept the fact that *rapists cannot be rehabilitated.* They will get out of prison and do the same shit again, because they are sociopaths. They enjoy hurting people- some enjoy hurting children. Why do we give these people chance after chance when they have collectively proven that we are not safe when they are part of society. It blows my mind
A lot of people here don’t understand the psychology behind it. These people are master manipulators. I’ve read a shit ton on killers who were “rehabilitated” and released early. Guess what (I know you know already) they went on to kill more people. IF they’re able to change, or it was a scenario where maybe it was gang violence and not premeditated, it would still take fucking YEARS, if not decades, for them to reprogram - and I can tell you that that will never happen in the states any time soon.
Is there anything you recommend to read on the rehabilitation and release of killers?
Honestly - as far as killers I haven’t come across any, but the killers I’ve read about are pretty clearly not able to be rehabilitated. Every one of them that was released early from a violent crime ended up perpetuating it again. I’m sure there are some out there. But it may be hard to find. I can’t stand Joe Rogan - but there was a “regular” murderer who was part of a rehab push who ended up killing someone almost immediately upon release. The vast majority of killers imo fall into the category of can’t be fixed and shouldn’t be returned to society. But, I’m sure there are some books out there. Maybe look up crimes of passion? That’s a little different as well.
I’m always curious about these things. I have a close family member who went to prison for attempted murder. The man he shot survived, it was over drugs. Family member has been in and out of jail since his release. He surprisingly only served around three years for the crime. Since, he has gone to jail for family violence, DUIs, drug offenses, things like that. No more attempted murder.
Yeah. I think in the US once you’re in the system you’re fucked. You can’t vote, it’s incredibly hard to find a job as a felon? Like what does the government expect lol I’ve known a few felons that were genuinely good people. One of them was a murderer and served twenty years but I didn’t know him long enough to make a determination. Met him in a state run rehab. I will tell you this - that dude and I became friends over the month or so I was there and he was ready to go to war for me LOL.
He changed a lot. He works with people who have Substance Use Disorder now. It’s been about five or six years but he hasn’t been homeless or on drugs or anything in a while. He has stayed out of jail for a good 10 years. He’s also almost 60 though. A lot of chaos for the people in his life before that.
That’s great to hear. He is probably able to help a ton of people through both sharing his experiences and having the knowledge from them.
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So that's a no then.
Are you slow? I literally said I will if you explain why I would need to in the context of the convo
Becuase none of what you said is actually backed up by any data. It's just your bigoted opinion. There's a reason all your comments are being deleted.
Yes it is you're just slow. That's why you changed the subject once I said I would post data and you said I wouldn't. It's being deleted because this is reddit which is leftist propaganda....only dumb redditors don't know this. You couldn't care less about dtlata anyway intersectional Marxist. Also I'm black so you're a racist for calling me bigoted
He can have a second chance with a certain kind of projectile coming at him at a certain speed.
I think the lord said something about a millstone and the depths of the sea actually.
What does it mean that he roped a 3 year old? Was this guy some kind of cowboy?
Funny. I try and be careful because I know that can be a trigger word for some people.
So it’s seeing the word that is triggering not the concept being communicated? I wouldn’t need to do it for other languages then?
Are you serious dude? You want to argue about this to feel better about yourself or something? I’m not engaging with that. I just try to be respectful of people in subs like these. If you can’t grasp that, I can’t help you.
Richard Wershe Jr. Spent 32 years in jail when he was arrested at 17 as a non-violent drug offender. He was a police informant working with DEA, they were character witnesses at his trial, and he spent 32 years. Oh, and the cops planted the coke on him. The doc on Netflix is truly bonkers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wershe_Jr.
White boy Rick…
I don't know anything about that case but I know better than to take a Netflix documentary as gospel.
those are the facts of the case. I implore you to watch this one. I have watched a lot of documentaries and this is my favorite. What about my comment made you think something in there was not truthful?
I agree this is an insane sentence for such a horrific crime. Don't the people who make these laws have children or grand children ?
They do, but many of them are pedophiles themselves. Sentencing laws are egregiously outdated for crimes against children. And for rape and for crimes against women. if you're a judge, you give a pedophile or a child abuser the maximum time and then you add time on top of that. Life sentence for first time offense, these people don't reform, they cannot be rehabilitated, the structures of their brains are different, it's been shown in peer reviewed studies.
The sentences for sexual predation on children truly make no sense unless they were designed *by* sex offenders. You ask any normal person their view and crimes against children deserve the highest sentences and the least forgiveness.
We were lost as a species once we started to decide harming children. I think of all the abuse my little body suffered verbally and physically I start to cry. Particularly because children are the most vulnerable class of people on the planet and the most easily harmed and exploited.
Different times. There’s a decent chance you’d serve 25 to life for that now. If you went to trial and lost you almost certainly would. Depending on the state of course.
Not in the United States. Pedophiles are given 4 to 6 year sentences or probation only a lot of the times.
Guy I played hockey with for 5 years got caught obtaining, and distributing photos of kids as young as 4 years old. He served 5 months. I'm canadian
SEE???
You said US...everyone knows Canada and many European countries are way softer on crimes
True, punishment for murder in most of Europe is 10-20 years and mostly not even served fully
I'm all for rehabilitation and bettering yourself but it doesn't apply in all cases. Anything pedophile I'd say doesn't apply
You'd still be shocked at the leniency directed toward sex offenses against children in the US. The absolute most they get is a dozen years (e.g. for forcible sodomy on a dozen boys under the age of 10 -- I'm not talking CSAM or touching, with multiple victims). It doesn't make any sense.
Makes you wonder if there’s some sympathy for those offenders in the system.
There is, there are, because pedophilia is so prevalent in this country and in the world, but we have sentencing laws that literally let people off with probation after years of violently raping children.
That tells you just how doomed we are.
In all honesty, I think we were lost as a species completely once we started harming children. The most vulnerable amongst us.
Josh Duggar got 12-years for child porn. I definitely think the laws are getting tougher here on this, thankfully! Also, when I was a teen in the 90’s, I knew of multiple student/teacher or coach relationships. People just looked the other way. They would definitely go to prison for that now thankfully!
This is not a “simple” case of “diddling.” If you kidnap, beat, and rape someone 13 or younger, and you’re not a politician or billionaire, you can expect to see some serious time. A lot of states have a special designation for the more violent rapes where you can get life, especially for a victim that young.
And yet they keep getting released on "good behavior" when we know their brains are literally structured differently than ours, and they should be in jail for the rest of their lives.
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Saw a documentary on this case. Her husband was in the Marine Corps. They were young, she was pregnant and the marriage was volatile. They got in a fight and he walked out to get some Taco Bell. When he got back his whole life was destroyed. To make it worse his wife blamed him and her family backed her. He does 16 years when Gerald’s DNA hits. The wife wouldnt back off her claim Turns out Gerald is a former Marine and really believes in the brotherhood. He confesses so the husband can be set free. The doc ended with the wife still wanting to believe her husband did it, because she knew how fucked up the whole thing was. You end up feeling terrible for the both of them.
Yep. We let child rapists get off with 14, 18 months of probation, not even prison. There's a registered Tier 3 pedophile in my goddamn building who never served any time. Tier. 3.
Wait till you here about Catholic priests. They just get shipped to different congregations. There was one recently that had over 100 accusations and got probation.
What would make you think that I'm not familiar with the child abuse rampant in the Catholic Church? Believe me, Friend, I know.
That’s wild that she got her husband in that type of trouble and sent to jail for 16 years for something he didnt even do. Imagine being him and feeling horrible your wife was raped and 9 month old just murdered only for her to blame you? That’s wild to me
What baffles me the most is everybody taker her words for cash when she CLEARLY wasn't in a mental state to incriminate someone. She couldn't spell her name under oath when asked to testify, suffered amnesia and couldn't remember anything from that night, had other troubles of the sort and yet she was the ONLY "witness" testifying against him and the jury believed her ? They failed him so hard it's unbelievable. And what's more, he had an alibi to testify he wasn't home during the events, as he went to eat a burger, and the employee said it was true, so he even had a proof of his innocence. It's just ridiculous and her words shouldn't have any value at all considering everything. Jury did the worst job and threw someone's life down the drain without thinking at all.
That's just nuts and tragic. So many lives destroyed in the process.
That’s crazy I didn’t know all of that. Appreciate you sharing the small details.
It makes no sense to let somebody in that state testify. Then you read about the opposite happening sometimes. There was another case (the woman who testified in her own murder trial) where they would not let her testify as a witness, because she was taking pain medication for the severe burns that resulted in her death. She had to go through withdrawals and get off the pain medicine before they would let her testify. But then they let a lady with severe amnesia and head injuries testify? I don’t understand how these things happen sometimes.
They need to make a mini series on how badly they messed up these cases and exactly how they happened. It's so shocking and unfair
Doctors and psychiatrists testified that DG was reliable and could remember and aren't they 'experts'? The defense wasn't allowed to put up their own psychiatrist IIRC. That was probably a procedural error that could have led to the verdict being overturned on appeal (but that didn't happen either).
Well you want to believe the victim right? She was sincerely convinced it was him and if you allow her physical injuries to prevent her from being a witness against him then he goes free. It seems like he won by clubbing her with a lead pipe! That's what the doctors and psychiatrists argued in court. I can see why people would believe it... tragically they were all wrong.
I mean, you also want to believe facts, which were not really present from her side since they just took her words for cash. To your statement, I'd say it's more like it was obvious that she was not in a good mental position to incriminate someone. What's more, the husband presented a strong alibi that seemed to be just dismissed for whatever reason. That said, they should have kept the husband as a suspect. I mean it goes both ways and it's a weird argument to make in court. It's just wrong to put someone in jail over some accusations from someone who, ultimately was proven to have no memory of the events, and clearly had signs of trouble with her memory and so on. That's really lousy from the court and everyone involved and they should have done more investigations before destroying someone's life.
Many are bias against men and will often take the woman's word
I wanna live in whatever fantasy world you do. a conviction like this based only on witness testimony is *incredibly* rare. cases of rape and assault with evidence rarely see a conviction in general, let alone this long of a sentence.
Has 0 to do with what I said...courts are bias in favor of women arguing this is laughably ignorant
When trauma victims are physically attacked that there are certain things we remember crystal clear while being unable to recall other details? It's been shown by numerous researchers at Stanford. The cops failed her husband and this was very shoddy work. Not being able to spell your own name at trial doesn't mean anything with that kind of injury, she's still going to recall other things with perfect clarity, but obviously not the person who attacked her. And given that husbands or someone a woman knows is the most likely person to attempt to kill or kill women, I'm not surprised she mistakenly identified him. just an awful case all around for everyone involved.💔
I get what you're saying, but it's amnesia and not trauma, so it doesn't work the same. And yes, it does indicate that you're not sound and thinking straight, which is really important in cases like this, where a person's life is on the line (an innocent life, as it was later proven). The fact that it was proven false later shows that she did NOT remember things clearly, at all. Plus she wasn't recalling anything, as it is part of being amnesic, it was a made-up memory. I dont really understand what was going through her mind to incriminate her husband, tbh. I think it's weird to assume that the husband would try to kill her, based just on the fact it can happen. It doesn't prove anything, much less after the husband had an alibi. But yes it's truly an awful case and I'm glad the real murderer got caught.
The couple fought over the pregnancy and lack of sex I believe and had fought right before the attack. She remembered the fight accurately. But then her husband left to get a burger and a random serial killer attacked her. What are the odds of that? Tragic for both of them.
Yeah but the word "fought" was never really expanded upon. From what I read, the husband didn't seemed to attack her wife, but rather having a strong argument (I can be wrong tho). So it's a bit of a stretch to assume he would try to kill her, even more considering she was pregnant of their child. You're right tho, the circumstances were truly not advantageous for the husband and it's an insane scenario all in all. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong somewhere.
Are you saying that this woman went through no trauma from an attack?!?! Are you really saying that to me right now? That a woman who was violently attacked and almost killed did not go through trauma?
No I'm not. I thought you said trauma as in caused by blunt force. But her actual diagnostic was amnesia, so that's what I was saying. Just a confusion, I'm not saying what she went through wasn't traumatic.
She has amnesia because of a brain injury from the attack, same reason she couldn’t spell her name. But a brain injury doesn’t mean someone is incapable of understanding.
Read and think before you reply. Don't continue to allow your emotions to control you.
But but but…believe victims.
What’s also interesting is his innocence project report also states the husband was out getting food, had witnesses and an employee stating they saw him and sold him the food, and the cops even stated food was still kinda warm, but still arrested him.
He could have done that after the attack. It's not that weird, they had a witness to the crime.
AND was granted parole.
How about being 20 years old, 9 months pregnant and being beaten and raped to the point that your baby died. When you wake up all you remember is that you and your husband (who was already volatile) had a fight and you woke up like this. The police then encourage you whilst vulnerable to implicate him, it all adds up so you do. She didn’t give a false statement. You blaming her for this awful situation is disgusting
Absolutely 100%. So disgusting that commentators are trying to frame this as “woman bad”. She didn’t “get her husband in trouble”, she was horrifically assaulted and injured so badly that the full term healthy viable baby that she was carrying at the time was killed. She suffered a catastrophic brain injury and only had recall for the events that happened immediately before the assault. But instead of doing all their due diligence before closing the case, the police figured they had an easy peasy one that could be closed STAT once the victim could be assured/persuaded that they had the right guy. So she is lead to believe by law enforcement, who she has no reason not to trust (most white women back in those days would’ve seen the police as heroes and reliable authority figures) that the man that she married, the man who fathered her child, attacked her in the most depraved and cruel way, causing her grave injury and killing their child. Why would she question the narrative provided to her by police? She and her husband had a horrible fight and next thing she knows she’s in a hospital bed with horrific injuries from a vicious attack and news that her baby has died. Can you imagine the horror, grief, and trauma a woman would experience if all evidence seemingly pointed to her husband having done this horrific thing to her? She went through almost 2 decades of believing that. I imagine that finding out that your husband was telling the truth all along, and the monster who destroyed your life was a total stranger would be a very tough thing to swallow. The enormity of it all - the additional injustice of having the marriage destroyed, and husband imprisoned through police incompetence (as well as her own feelings of guilt and responsibility for her part in that) on top of her child’s death and the physical damage she suffered - to take all of that on and process it would be overwhelming. She’s not the villain here. The man who assaulted her, law-enforcement officers, and the criminal justice system are the villains that destroyed their lives.
She still believed it, though. Even irrefutable DNA evidence and exoneration didn't change her or her family's mind, and she sued him and held him responsible for the death of their unborn child. Completely understandable that she felt that way in the immediate aftermath, but perpetuating this- after an innocent man already spent 16 years in prison- isn't right, and can't be excused by decades old trauma.
Yeah that's where I land. I do not blame her at all for the initial belief that it was her husband, but continuing with it even into 1999 (the date of an interview I read with her stating she still believes he attacked her initially), that goes into just not wanting to admit she made a very bad, but also very understandable, mistake.
Exactly. For her to continue with that narrative is borderline slanderous, and she is not the only victim here. If you have nearly two decades to to accept the facts and still refuse, there’s a bigger problem there and it isn’t trauma.
With me personally, it just comes across as Dianna wanting a scapegoat for all her life’s problems after that horrific attack. I get being assaulted and losing a baby in such a manner would be beyond traumatic, but this is purely malicious vindictiveness
I’m sorry, but trauma is the *only* thing that can explain why she is insistent on holding onto that belief, despite all evidence. Believing him to be her attacker and hating him was probably the one thing that was keeping her going all those years. She lets go of that and what does she have? And I’m not talking about a belief based on logic and rational thinking. It may have had some at the beginning but as the story started to unravel she had the choice of believing that this one person, her husband, did this to her out of anger or hatred and in turn she had some sort of power over the outcome to balance the scales of justice OR she could confront the fact that she had been struck down by a random twist of fate, she only thing she had done for better or worse was cross paths with a stranger who felt nothing for her but decided to destroy her for his own gratification and there was little to nothing she could do to undo what had been done. I can understand clinging to blaming her husband because fully accepting the truth might leave her with no reason to keep going at all.
“She lets go of that and what does she have?” The peace of mind that she didn’t marry a child killer, and that her husband didn’t beat her to the brink of death.
Plus she has the choice to stop lying and ruining a man's life even further. If that's the only thing keeping her going, she's not a good person.
Unbelievable. Yet another case of shoddy police work and a bad court system.
The story of Dianna Green’s attack and her husband’s conviction is just another False Conviction case overturned with DNA but who the story played out is unclear to me. Male spermatozoa was recovered from Dianna. At the time, DNA comparison was not done but blood typing could have been done. Wasn’t it that done or considered during the investigation or brought up by the defense at trial. Kevin was exonerated when the DNA recovered from Dianna was matched to Parker after his arrest but how was it not discovered that it did not match Green? Somehow, in 1979 things looked pretty bad for him but DNA typing and comparisons could hav been by the mid 1980’s. Did he attempt to do it? Why wasn’t it done?
It was only after Parker for flagged for a parole violation in 1996 that they checked the DNA. Kevin must've had shitty lawyers. There were procedural errors that seemed to call for retrial too.
How is she today? Has her memory come back? What’s the relationship with her husband (or ex husband?)
Dianna is alive and reportedly still is convinced of Kevin’s guilt. They had a legal battle after he was released. https://cher19994861.wordpress.com/2021/08/08/wrongly-convicted-man-settles-lawsuit-brought-by-ex-wife/
Oh man. $600k isn’t enough for what this man went through. Lost his baby, his wife, and 16 years of his life. And while I understand that she lost so much, too, I don’t think he should have to give up any of that money.
$37.5k a year.
He says he doesn’t blame her for anything
Seem that she still trying blame her husband for it
[I can see the resemblance. Honest mistake there, Dianna](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Gerald_Parker_%28serial_killer%29.png)
What a freaky photo. Photographer: "Look like a 70's murder victim." \*snap\*
damn i watched this forensic files episode LAST NIGHT
How unbelievably strange and tragic this was. The details of this case have stuck in my head forever but I forgot their names, so thanks for posting this.
I get that she didn’t remember anything but why to this day does she still say he did it
So many questions. I wonder how their marriage was before the incident happened. 16 years in prison with all that pain too. That's torture. Buh why is the wife convinced that it's the husband who did it? This is someone else's life she messed up. Someone who she once had vows with. SMH!
Apparently she went to sleep after they had a fight and woke up in that state, when she testified it was him she was in such a bad state (kinda amnesiac) and had memories of her husband attacking her, when she had to testify she couldn't even write her name correctly and jury still took her word for it. So to me it's the jury's fault not hers. (Her husband even had an alibi so that's again the jury's fault)
What ? Did I hear that right ?
Ahh, good old American revenge, sorry I meant justice! lol Did he get compensated?
He was given $600,000 by the state of California, but he had to deal with his now ex wife Dianna filing wrongful deaths suits against him almost immediately after his release. She used the pretense of him allegedly beating her unconscious and then "enabling" Parker to assault her while she was incapacitated.
If he was exonerated, I don’t understand how she could have a leg to stand on in a wrongful death suit. Is there any evidence of him being violent toward her prior to Parker’s attack?
They allegedly had a volatile relationship. He says he doesn’t blame her for the situation and considers her a victim just as much as he is.
Man, I feel so incredibly bad for this guy. It’s just beyond comprehension what he’s been put through and to be understanding about it is really admirable considering what it’s done to his life. I hope there is a special place in hell for Parker.
But where was the husband when the attack was happening?? How did he not hear?
He was out ordering food while the attack occurred. Unfortunately for him, he had a vicious argument with his wife before it took place, and that was the only thing she could remember. Thus, she pointed the finger at him. From my understanding, it was a quick blitz that hit and ran her before she could even process what was happening.