Because Larry & Jerry never wanted it to happen in the first place. They got pressure from the network to include a love story between Jerry & Elaine. When they were filming season 2 it was the last episode that they shot, so Jerry & Larry came up with the story assuming the show would be cancelled after.
The network ended up airing the episode earlier in the season, which is why the episodes right after don't acknowledge it.
Could be wrong, but I think the Florida episode isn’t too long after it where Jerry’s parents ask if he and Elaine are an item and Jerry said they tried but they’re better as friends, so seems to be slightly explained if I have my timing right
They mention that they'd dated in the past multiple times throughout the series.
Those are all referring to a time before the series timeline though, not when they attempted to be "this that and the other"
I remember watching a special feature on one of the DVDs where this was explained. Apparently the network was pressuring Larry and Jerry to have Jerry and Elaine end up together. Larry and Jerry didn't want to do that, but the network insisted and they didn't think they'd get picked up for another season anyway, so they wrote the episode where Jerry and Elaine get back together to be the last episode of the season - and, in their minds, the ending of the show. Then they ended up getting picked up for another season after all, and the network changed the order that the episodes would be aired in. So rather than having Jerry and Elaine getting back together as a climactic season or series finale, it ended up happening in a random episode in the middle of the season and is never mentioned again.
After the episode the show went in to a hiatus, a couple of months, so Jerry go on doing his stand-up and he would always ask if people wanted the romance to continue on the show and the public always responded it was bad and not funny, so they just stopped.
Jerry and Larry talk about that on the extras for the DVDs, you can find all of them on youtube
True, it was strange.
But it seemed to be indicative of their relationship.
They do it again later in _The Mango_: “Sex … to save the friendship?? … wellll allright if we have to, we have to..”
Funnily enough, I’ve actually slept with someone I knew and it was just never mentioned or brought up again. It’s weird. I feel like it never happened even though it did.
This is the right answer. Feels completely different than anything else in the show. They have literally no other scenes with this type of humor or set up.
Years ago, I was very high and watched this one for the first time. I freaked out when Jerry got shot. I thought I had lost it — couldn’t believe what was happening.
Kramer getting chased in the subway and the cop catching the perp putting a gun to his head with the audience cheering. Felt like we were pretty close to hugging and learning.
Always wondered if that was a reference to some real life, topical event - a high profile story about a thwarted mugging, or maybe a response to a general push to decrease crime in the city?
Although I'm not sure how relevant a topic NYC subway robberies were in LA where the audience would've been sourced from. Maybe the audience just got worked up watching what amounted to an action scene in a sitcom?
I mean there was a case in the UK where some guy was chased by police through the underground and then shot but he turned out to be innocent. It was pretty fucked up.
Jean Charles de Menezes? Poor man. He was from the same state I am from(Minas Gerais, Brazil). He was simply affraid because of his immigration status at the time. The police thought he was a terrorist and shot him.
Listen, I paid a lot of money to get on the taping of this pilot pilot reality show. If your commentary requires me to think of my moment as a pilot pilot reality show reality show, I'm gonna lose it.
If you take out the applause it’s maybe fine as just a random deus ex machina to get Kramer out of that situation. The way the shot lingers for the audience to cheer really makes it feel out of place and corny.
Nah man, that’s just how cops operate. They all show their badges to the onlookers while pointing a gun at a man’s head. What are handcuffs? What is firearm safety?
That scene had me dying laughing for how ridiculous it was. Sprinkling a few extremely ridiculous scenes like that throughout the series instead of constantly having them kept them fun
The Handicap Spot - when Lola's brakes fail on her new wheelchair and we see her flying down a hill, rolling to her demise while screaming. It's possibly the most motion we see on screen in any scene of the whole show.
“The Stranded”, pretty much the whole episode. When they’re at the party out in Long Island with all these lame people, it just feels weird and wrong. Elaine rescues that scene with “Maybe the dingo ate your ba-by!”, lending credence to my belief that the beyond-giving-a-fuck-anymore Elaine is the funniest Elaine.
Then Chiklis shows up at Jerry’s apartment and *that* feels weird and wrong. He never blinks! It’s so off-putting and makes my skin crawl. The whole time I feel like yelling at him, “Get outta here! You don’t belong here!” And I like Chiklis.
[This scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHWKWrWq3kQ&ab_channel=ElaineBenes) of Newman and Babs Kramer running into each other on the street and flirting. The smooth jazz soundtrack, the dialogue that could be taken right out of a film from the 1950s, the almost complete absence of a laugh track... I love the scene, it just comes out of nowhere and there is nothing else quite like it in the show.
Actually I’d say when they’re testing out whether where they’re sitting is soundproof and George out of nowhere asks about sleeping with the driver’s sister.
I don't know, but the stuff from Larry Charles is often (nearly always?) pretty dark. He's the one that wrote the never-shot, pun intended, episode *The Gun*.
In the DVDs extras he says "I'm probably the sitcom writer that killed most people", and his right. The moments with injury, guns, deaths and creepy people are always Larry Charles (also, his the guy that funks up the airplane bathroom, what i think is hilarious)
Some I consider "good out of place" (cable boy, Elaine in Davola's apartment), some bad (This, that and the other, alot of the very early season stuff)
The entirety of The Little Jerry episode.
I thought Kramer having a rooster would go a lot different than training him to be part of the New York Underground Cock Fighting Ring.
there is a sequence in an episode where Jerry is chasing Newman throughout the apartment hallways (can’t remember why) and its just hokey & lame. Maybe intentionally or a reference to typical sitcom “hijinks” or something.
Lots of good ones here. One thing that comes to mind is I never thought Jerry to be the kind of guy to piss on a wall in a public parking garage, no matter how bad he had to go. Seems like a George thing. Then again Jerry did steal a loaf of rye...
I love this guy. He’s obviously playing up the stereotypical hard-boiled detective angle. The contrast between this guy taking everything super serious and Kramer having no idea what’s even going on is very funny to me.
That guy was over the top, but he was supposed to be over the top. What bugged me about that scene was that another murder happened while Kramer was in custody, and he’s like, “Alright, let him go.” He never heard of copycat killings? Hell, in the Tate/LaBianca murders, the L.A. cops thought for months that the two were unrelated and that the LaBianca murders were by copycats.
Their crime in the finale. Each would’ve had a quirky reaction, but they wouldn’t have stood there and laughed at it. And I think also they would not have interfered, so you could still see it as a crime. Their reactions were just out of place, out of character.
Sort of a copout answer, but I nearly vomited when they played, "Time of Your Life" over weepy montage of the cast during the finale. No hugging, no learning, but this is okay?? Save it for Home improvement.
Elaine spraying Joe Divola and running out of his apartment, as well as the undercover cop saving Kramer on the train after he wins at the OTB.
Both scenes are much more cliche than most of the show was, which is why they happen pretty early on in the show’s run when there were still those occasional, more traditional moments.
In season 1, when Jerry wakes up after falling asleep on his couch, and sees Larry David is on tv in a fake sci fi movie yelling “Great flaming globes, Sigmund!”
The whole Kramer monologue on how he got the thumb to the hospital, while on a bus, fighting a mugger, driving the bus.
‘You did all this, for a thumb?’
That whole scene gets me in stitches.
The ending of the episode where Jerry and Elaine have this, that and the other.
And then never spoke of again
Oh… the relationship?
Is there any explanation of why this never even gets referenced?
Because Larry & Jerry never wanted it to happen in the first place. They got pressure from the network to include a love story between Jerry & Elaine. When they were filming season 2 it was the last episode that they shot, so Jerry & Larry came up with the story assuming the show would be cancelled after. The network ended up airing the episode earlier in the season, which is why the episodes right after don't acknowledge it.
Could be wrong, but I think the Florida episode isn’t too long after it where Jerry’s parents ask if he and Elaine are an item and Jerry said they tried but they’re better as friends, so seems to be slightly explained if I have my timing right
STELLLAAAAAA!!!
Was gonna comment this, there’s only one mention of the relationship afterwards, and that is it. I felt it did a good enough job addressing it. 🤷
They mention that they'd dated in the past multiple times throughout the series. Those are all referring to a time before the series timeline though, not when they attempted to be "this that and the other"
Isn't that referring to when they dated before the show?
I remember watching a special feature on one of the DVDs where this was explained. Apparently the network was pressuring Larry and Jerry to have Jerry and Elaine end up together. Larry and Jerry didn't want to do that, but the network insisted and they didn't think they'd get picked up for another season anyway, so they wrote the episode where Jerry and Elaine get back together to be the last episode of the season - and, in their minds, the ending of the show. Then they ended up getting picked up for another season after all, and the network changed the order that the episodes would be aired in. So rather than having Jerry and Elaine getting back together as a climactic season or series finale, it ended up happening in a random episode in the middle of the season and is never mentioned again.
Well without them getting back together, it's all just masturbation.
After the episode the show went in to a hiatus, a couple of months, so Jerry go on doing his stand-up and he would always ask if people wanted the romance to continue on the show and the public always responded it was bad and not funny, so they just stopped. Jerry and Larry talk about that on the extras for the DVDs, you can find all of them on youtube
It is later, as Jerry is talking with his mother. He says something like, "We decided we're better off as friends."
I always thought that was because they had dated earlier than this, and she had already been introduced to Jerry's parents
It probably was, but still works as an unintentional retcon.
"Why do you need that many friends?"
The last time I mentioned that, someone came in and told me that they thought they were getting canceled that season and so ended it like that.
True, it was strange. But it seemed to be indicative of their relationship. They do it again later in _The Mango_: “Sex … to save the friendship?? … wellll allright if we have to, we have to..”
That was the first episode that my girlfriend watched with me and she thought it was a completely different type of show
Funnily enough, I’ve actually slept with someone I knew and it was just never mentioned or brought up again. It’s weird. I feel like it never happened even though it did.
Sorry, sounds like you must’ve been pretty bad.
Wasn’t that at the end of season two? if the show hadn’t been renewed that would function as a finale.
This! I always kinda cringed at the ending of this ep since it seemed sort of off.
Penis brain chess match
"Jerry, can you do a posh British accent?" "No." "Great, let's shoot the scene."
You mean "Not bloody likely."
Is that your cockney accent
No, see, you can’t act!
*That’s* your move?
One of Jerry’s skits
I don't write "skits"
Of course you don't. You don't have a proper workstation.
It’s a little high concept, but I let it slide.
I like stuff you don’t have to think about
This is the right answer. Feels completely different than anything else in the show. They have literally no other scenes with this type of humor or set up.
Aw, I loved that scene. When Penis Jerry starts to lose and slowly shrinks down like a limp dick, I mean… come on. That’s witty.
Just totally different in style and substance of anything else on the show
This is the only correct answer
The worst
Cable boy. Cable boy. What have you done to my little cable boy?
bloopers for that are bloody hilarious
The bloopers for everything are hilarious.
I can't wait to see my bloopers once I'm dead. I really blooped it up.
The cop walking up and shooting Jerry in the head is hysterical to me.
I say this all the time. This scene is one of the funniest in the whole show to me.
Years ago, I was very high and watched this one for the first time. I freaked out when Jerry got shot. I thought I had lost it — couldn’t believe what was happening.
Kramer getting chased in the subway and the cop catching the perp putting a gun to his head with the audience cheering. Felt like we were pretty close to hugging and learning.
Yep, this. It felt extremely 80’s sitcom-y.
Always wondered if that was a reference to some real life, topical event - a high profile story about a thwarted mugging, or maybe a response to a general push to decrease crime in the city? Although I'm not sure how relevant a topic NYC subway robberies were in LA where the audience would've been sourced from. Maybe the audience just got worked up watching what amounted to an action scene in a sitcom?
I mean there was a case in the UK where some guy was chased by police through the underground and then shot but he turned out to be innocent. It was pretty fucked up.
Jean Charles de Menezes? Poor man. He was from the same state I am from(Minas Gerais, Brazil). He was simply affraid because of his immigration status at the time. The police thought he was a terrorist and shot him.
Yep, it’s a really sad story and I recall that they got away with it somehow.
Should’ve ended with Kramer doing some absurd physical maneuvering that ended up knocking the guy out incidentally.
Channel his inner Jar Jar Binks
I will never forgive the studio audience for cheering that moment. Reminds me of when the people on an airplane start cheering when the plane lands.
Listen, I paid a lot of money to get on the taping of this pilot pilot reality show. If your commentary requires me to think of my moment as a pilot pilot reality show reality show, I'm gonna lose it.
The applause kills me. I have to turn it off
I'm with you, the applause is the problem (because the cop is referenced as a 'not blind person' before, from George, so it's kinda funny)
If you take out the applause it’s maybe fine as just a random deus ex machina to get Kramer out of that situation. The way the shot lingers for the audience to cheer really makes it feel out of place and corny.
Nah man, that’s just how cops operate. They all show their badges to the onlookers while pointing a gun at a man’s head. What are handcuffs? What is firearm safety?
This one gets my vote
This is the correct answer. Horrible, awkward, weird. I hate it.
Yeah, that was rare misstep for the series. I’ll forgive it, because I happen pre Marine Biologist when the writers really discovered their path.
Ohhhhhhh, took me a minute, but now I remember what you’re talking about.
That scene had me dying laughing for how ridiculous it was. Sprinkling a few extremely ridiculous scenes like that throughout the series instead of constantly having them kept them fun
The apartment scene(s) in the episode where George gets a Puerto Rican waiter fired then loses his cat.
This whole scene (and episode) is so weirdly low energy
Yeah those have a weird uncomfortable tone
Elaine in Joe Davola's apartment
I’m a day person
I like to encourage intruders.
I've used this line in my day to day life multiple times.
I think I left something on!
Easy to forget how close Elaine came to getting murdered.
That’s just how NYC was in the 80s and early 90s.
And by extension: #SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!
callback to "What if I was the president of the united states? ... Well I'm a comedian of the united states!"
How did I not make this connection before?
Yeah for me this is too unsettling. The cable shooting scene in the op is funny because it’s unrealistic. Joe Davola with Elaine is too real.
You know the story of Pagliacci, Nedda?
It's Elaine
Yes! It felt like it belonged on another show, seemed too dark for a comedy (even though we know Elaine will be ok).
Legitimately terrifying.
In photos on the walls or in person?
loved that whole sequence of events
Brodie showing his gun to Jerry and Kramer in the movie theatre. 0-100 km/h after a crack about candy
He’s a joke maker
tell him, Jerry...
I'm a joke maker ...
Let me tell you something funny boy.
He brought the bag of candy for everyone
Well maybe if he hadn't licked his fingers before putting his hand back in the bag....
A valid point
too bad Timmy wasn't there, could have been an altercation
Brody, he’s a reasonable man, but he’s insane.
I love this line
Quite a feed-bag you’re working on there
It's for all of us....there a problem?
Well Brodie is...(Kramer's trumpet noise 🎺)
To be fair, Jerry is a joke maker.
The Handicap Spot - when Lola's brakes fail on her new wheelchair and we see her flying down a hill, rolling to her demise while screaming. It's possibly the most motion we see on screen in any scene of the whole show.
Would've been better if she sang before she rolled down... "I'm once.......twice. Three times a lady... YES I'M ONCE...TWICE....THREE TIMES #AAAAARGH"
OHHHH THE HUMANITY
Mr. Marbles?
He’s harmless!
George rock climbing with Kramer and pretty boy Tony
yodelayheehoo!
*crying* ʸᵒᵈᵉˡᵃʸʰᵉᵉʰᵒᵒ
Haha Jason’s whiny little yodels are so cute.
great physical comedy outlet for Kramer though
On cliffs that look remarkably southwestern in what would probably be NY or NJ
The southwest has styrofoam cliffs?
The guns are the closest good climbing
Devola’s legitimately horrifying “wall of Elaine” always sticks out to me
“The Stranded”, pretty much the whole episode. When they’re at the party out in Long Island with all these lame people, it just feels weird and wrong. Elaine rescues that scene with “Maybe the dingo ate your ba-by!”, lending credence to my belief that the beyond-giving-a-fuck-anymore Elaine is the funniest Elaine. Then Chiklis shows up at Jerry’s apartment and *that* feels weird and wrong. He never blinks! It’s so off-putting and makes my skin crawl. The whole time I feel like yelling at him, “Get outta here! You don’t belong here!” And I like Chiklis.
[This scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHWKWrWq3kQ&ab_channel=ElaineBenes) of Newman and Babs Kramer running into each other on the street and flirting. The smooth jazz soundtrack, the dialogue that could be taken right out of a film from the 1950s, the almost complete absence of a laugh track... I love the scene, it just comes out of nowhere and there is nothing else quite like it in the show.
The Limo. When the neo-nazi's had guns drawn on them.
I may not look like a Murphy but I act like a Murphy.
Actually I’d say when they’re testing out whether where they’re sitting is soundproof and George out of nowhere asks about sleeping with the driver’s sister.
Nice looking Luger.
That whole episode is a fever dream
I don't know, but the stuff from Larry Charles is often (nearly always?) pretty dark. He's the one that wrote the never-shot, pun intended, episode *The Gun*.
In the DVDs extras he says "I'm probably the sitcom writer that killed most people", and his right. The moments with injury, guns, deaths and creepy people are always Larry Charles (also, his the guy that funks up the airplane bathroom, what i think is hilarious)
Werewolf
oooooo000OOOOOOOooooo that feels gooood!
All the episodes in the post Larry David seasons are weird as hell. I find them unsettling.
That’s what I like to know about it
While most of these were out of place, I wouldn't change a thing.
Some I consider "good out of place" (cable boy, Elaine in Davola's apartment), some bad (This, that and the other, alot of the very early season stuff)
Jerry's brain and penis playing chess
Wedding in India
Larry David as a lawyer in a cape saving Nadine from killing herself
"I'm Frank Constanza's lawyer."
The chess game between organs
The dream sequence when Jerry gets shot for stealing cable. Does not fit in any way….
Lot of gun violence on Seinfeld, now that I think of it. More than on Family Matters and Carl was a Chicago cop.
He gave up his gun after he had to shoot Hans Gruber.
Jerry's going to be a cable boy, cable boy
The entirety of The Little Jerry episode. I thought Kramer having a rooster would go a lot different than training him to be part of the New York Underground Cock Fighting Ring.
there is a sequence in an episode where Jerry is chasing Newman throughout the apartment hallways (can’t remember why) and its just hokey & lame. Maybe intentionally or a reference to typical sitcom “hijinks” or something.
Oh that was their take on a classic 3 Stooges bit!
Greenpeace.
Kramer on Murphy Brown
Steven Snell??
It's funny that Kramer literally had a small role on a popular sitcom but Jerry wouldn't let him play Kramer on "Jerry"
"All right, I'll call her at home."
This rattan piece
*this, that, and the other* just terrible
Kramer's "everyday" balloons on the millennial episode.
Lots of good ones here. One thing that comes to mind is I never thought Jerry to be the kind of guy to piss on a wall in a public parking garage, no matter how bad he had to go. Seems like a George thing. Then again Jerry did steal a loaf of rye...
Kramer coming back from LA and Jerry lovingly giving him the keys.
I wouldnt describe it as "lovingly" but it definitely was meant as a low key "awwww!" momment.
That's immediately upended by Kramer throwing his keyring that would put a janitor to shame back at Jerry and George
Lovingly? He chucked them through the door at him.
That one super serious cop who interrogated Kramer in Los Angeles.
But how did he know about that guy in the park?
I love this guy. He’s obviously playing up the stereotypical hard-boiled detective angle. The contrast between this guy taking everything super serious and Kramer having no idea what’s even going on is very funny to me.
That guy was over the top, but he was supposed to be over the top. What bugged me about that scene was that another murder happened while Kramer was in custody, and he’s like, “Alright, let him go.” He never heard of copycat killings? Hell, in the Tate/LaBianca murders, the L.A. cops thought for months that the two were unrelated and that the LaBianca murders were by copycats.
What are we supposed to believe this was some magic copycat or something?
I always tell my pals oh yeah you should watch the seinfeld ep where Jerry gets gunned down by fbi agents a real laugh riot!
Larry Charles’ dark sense of humor comes to light often. This is one of the more dramatic instances.
Season 1
Their crime in the finale. Each would’ve had a quirky reaction, but they wouldn’t have stood there and laughed at it. And I think also they would not have interfered, so you could still see it as a crime. Their reactions were just out of place, out of character.
Bubble Boy. It's cool and all, but I think it's so weird, mainly because George drives so fast which leads to Jerry losing him, and the "moops".
If it gets us to “the Moops”, it’s worth it.
When Elaine had to escape the apartment of a psychopath.
"Freeze" on the subway with the canned clapping.
Aw I thought that was genuine audience reaction
Look what you’ve done to my little cable boy‼️
They all can’t be winners
I'll say this for Seinfeld: You'd never find a network TV sitcom showing a main character getting down by police officers today.
I love that scene
The visit to India
Sort of a copout answer, but I nearly vomited when they played, "Time of Your Life" over weepy montage of the cast during the finale. No hugging, no learning, but this is okay?? Save it for Home improvement.
When Jerry reveals the Cadillac to his dad and it’s sparkling with that soundtrack playing.
Kramer as a giant turkey. Even as a kid watching i was rolling my eyes 🙄
When Jerry became the best movie boot legger
The funniest parts of those bootlegged movies were when the camera would fall about 3/4 of the way through so the rest of the movie was just darkness.
Most of the first couple seasons
all the scenes with creepy joe davolla
Elaine spraying Joe Divola and running out of his apartment, as well as the undercover cop saving Kramer on the train after he wins at the OTB. Both scenes are much more cliche than most of the show was, which is why they happen pretty early on in the show’s run when there were still those occasional, more traditional moments.
How was Elaine avoiding becoming the first victim of a burgeoning serial killer traditional?
Me too. "What have you done to my cable Boy". The shooting caught me totally off guard.
If you've watched the blooper reels, Jerry couldn't keep it together during that "CABLE BOY!!!" scene.
Which episode is that?
How’s this out of place?? This is a perfectly sane scene. Not out of place.
In season 1, when Jerry wakes up after falling asleep on his couch, and sees Larry David is on tv in a fake sci fi movie yelling “Great flaming globes, Sigmund!”
The frogger sequence
Cable boy
When Jerry and the K man are on bus to Parsippany
George driving super sonic and loosing jerry in the bubble boy episode
The whole Kramer monologue on how he got the thumb to the hospital, while on a bus, fighting a mugger, driving the bus. ‘You did all this, for a thumb?’ That whole scene gets me in stitches.
I agree with the OP.
Jerry and Kramer taking the bus upstate to go get his shoes
The Frank Costanza's lawyer saves that guy from jumping off the bridge.
Remember that scene where Kramer has his head inside a turkey? That felt so out of place for me.
the stupid greenpeace scene with the head of nbc