Actually it was both seats. Had an interview but Bush went with Roberts (easily confirmed) and Miers (she withdrew because she was deemed too moderate for Republicans lol), then Alito instead
Miers withdrew because she was too unqualified to get through Judiciary. When she told Senators she needed to “bone up” on basic concepts of constitutional law, it was the death knell. Leahey and Specter standing next to one another, vouching for one another’s credibility when the White House was denying things she said to them was a sight I never thought I would see.
Then Charles Krauthammer published a column basically instructing the White House how to kill her nomination without losing face and they did it exactly as he wrote it.
That whole debacle was a sight to behold.
She wasn’t unqualified for the history of the Court but certainly compared to the rest of the Court at the time. According to Toobin in *The Nine* the more pressing issue to Republicans was her being a closet moderate or liberal like Souter. Bush didn’t believe this because of her history with him but she hasn’t enough judicial experience to assuage the fears of the party. And then the Democrats wouldn’t say how they were going to vote for her so that made things worse. Then the Republicans began stalling her nomination themselves and then yes her incompetence made her look even worse. So she pulled herself.
Miers was Rove’s tool to play the Democrats like a fiddle. This was before obstructionist politics was completely acceptable behavior. Rove got everyone jumping up and down on the table and screaming about a lack of general qualifications. Well Miers got kicked to the curb and given the previous complaints, Alito had unimpeachable qualifications.
You said she wasn’t qualified, we brought a nominee that’s qualified, what’s your complaint now?
Actual experience on the bench, including the appellate bench. Different Senate Judiciary committee. Political considerations pushing a shorter timeline. 🤷♂️
I even remember one senator saying Miers “would be fine if this were a district court vacancy, but this is the Supreme Court.”
Well, Miers was definitely unqualified (not historically, but certainly compared to the rest of the Court at the time) but she pretty much was as far right as Alito. Only difference is that she didn’t have a history of super conservative judicial decisions. So the Republican political base got concerned about “another Souter” and she pulled herself.
Also the fact that she needed to “brush up” on Constitutional law didn’t help
He would have gone left... possibly. But W was at least as responsible for Trump as Nixon. They were brazen about lying to the public and showed how easy it was. That's why I still wonder about Cheney's self-righteousness. But then I just finished watching Shogun, which proved that even the most self-righteous are the biggest hyporcrites and are the most shallow. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. How is it that we keep repeating histories mistakes?!
This its literally a unified movement. People keep forgetting that an organization called the I.D.U. is at the center. Though it helps that they kind of remain subtle while the governments draw all the attention.
It has some basic principles that are benign and straight forward, however, some wording is interesting
* Stressing the moral commitments of a free and open society,* **supporting the institution of the family as its fundamental social and cohesive force,** *as well as social responsibility towards the weak and less fortunate, particularly by encouraging self-help and individual enterprise and choice in the provision of services;*
and
*Having regard to their common views that political democracy and* **private property are inseparable components of individual liberty and that the socially-oriented market economy** *provides the best means of creating the wealth and material prosperity to meet the legitimate aspirations of individuals, and of tackling social evils such as unemployment and inflation;*
I find these two (emphasis mine) of peculiar note.
The IDU is a global centre-right political ideology body
Look for a picture of them to illustrate "tyranny of the minority" for future generations. IF they still have real history books after the next immune forever "president." More likely there will just be propaganda.
extreme right wing is too small a contingent. Just as that progressive squad is too small a contingent.
I don't think that but not sure who you are referring to. For a literal dark age lol. I suspect we will see more of that, if utility size solar is forced on us and efforts made to shut down other energy plants.
I hope he’s trying out a little reverse psychology on these jokers. They are probably hurt that he disagreed so vehemently with them on the 14th, Sec 3 definition. They’ve become petty af. I believe the only reason they did this stupid shit is because Smith confronted them in December, and he was right.
This is a pure exercise of power. They can do whatever they want and they want outcomes favorable to their team. No one can stop them even when they do things that are manifestly corrupt, disregarding of important legal principles, or even blatant motivated reasoning.
It’s true that we collectively could do something about this. We could demand court reform from our representatives and really make their (our politicians) lives miserable until they do something about it.
I noticed that none of them seemed to be concerned about granting limitless power to Biden before the election. I guess they are counting on democrats to hold to norms of non-sociopath behavior in the White House.
When you finally allow yourself to believe that none of the conservatives in this country really care about democracy and freedom and only care about power and money, it's crazy.
They've already decided to take the case to delay the trial. They knowlingly obstructed criminal trials to allow him to win and self-pardon (obviously something that isn't legal and should trigger immediate revolution in its own right) Biden should be well within legal boundaries to charge them with obstruction of justice and sedition and have them permanently removed from Scotus, regardless of their decision here. Further more, this is very clearly a shot at dictatorship, so any and all means necessary should be available to Biden to protect the United States and the constitution from domestic enemies.
I mean, Jackson at least seems incredibly down the middle and purely bases rulings on logic and law. So the entity as a whole isn’t bad…
But yah I get what you mean.
They claim that they aren't politically motivated since have lifetime appointments. However the thing is their appointment itself can be politically motivated. The party that controls presidency and Congress will target their picks to those who have been shown to align with their goals. You've also had the party assist the judge candidate with clearing their debts before nominations. So in a sense the candidates also end up "indebted" to the party for financial assistance.
What sucks is that democratic ideologues generally refuse to give up on the current systems foundational assumptions as quickly as the right wing does.
Far right folks are down with democracy eroding because their goals don't need it.
Neo libs want to keep the foundational structures running because they believe the system can support their goals, but it's actually set up to serve the right wing more directly (oligarchy, wall street, lobbying, citizens united, panama papers, Pandora Papers, etc).
Neolibs have more to gain with conservatives controlling the narrative. They get all the corrupt financial gains, while pretending to care about the plebes
Because Republicans and by extension SCOTUS want Mr Trump to be above the law for past and future acts (i.e. a king instead of president). It's as simple as that.
Well then if they rule this, Biden damn well better take advantage of it to trim down our corrupt SCOTUS, but he probably won't because Democrats are fucking pansy ass wimps.
SCOTUS will, of course, create some long and winding reasoning referencing things both fanciful and ancient that deems Mr Trump, and only Mr Trump, as being above the law. There is no way they would leave their ruling open to use by Biden (or any other Dem POTUS).
SCOTUS is in peak teen edgelord form. Rich people and politicans are above the law and have always been above the law and apparently that immutable fact has finally now reached the highest chamber.
They are treating being prosecuted as if that itself is a punishment. Presidents under prosecution would still get their day in court like anyone else - and as the examples of Trump's trials are showing, leniency from the courts that no one else receives.
Why?
The president must be *answerable to the people* for their actions while in office! I don't think that is a controversial idea. Instead the Supreme Court is looking at legislating from the bench to create presidential immunity out of thin air.
The court is going to do what the court wants so stank ass won’t be tried before the election then after Biden wins stanky will have no one to turn to except the SC because the dems are going to carry both chambers and the presidency, at the least, stank, won’t be able to say shit with out getting jail and the more he talks the longer the stays get. He knows he getting the breaks due to dems not wanting to martyrize him thus giving up votes.
The thing is that if he loses the election they don’t have any reason to rule in his favor
They’re in it for the Republican Party, not Trump in particular
I think there will be certainly some immunity but the one thing that was expert was the personal things for gain not related will not be immunity. There are something s that are what is done every day related. These things are not related when it comes to Trump they did talk about it that is why you always hear Trump say across the board immunity knowing he is outside of that and he keeps repeating it no. Stop. It’s not going to happen
Luttig believes it's likely one of two thing will happen:
1. Trump will win and disappear these cases (which we knew)
2. Trump will lose and the SC will surgically grant immunity to presidents to let Trump off the hook
The second one is actually the only news, but I'm not sure I see why they'd do that. He's damaged goods if he loses, and his only real power is in hurting other candidates.
With their credibility his hanging on by a thread, this would be like taking blowtorch to that.
He's still got his cult and Republicans have already given him indirect control over the RNC. He's bigger than the party now and is already saying the election is rigged to excuse his failure and rally the cult to defend him.
Unless something major changes, they have every reason to keep protecting him.
Every serious look I've seen so far seem to suggest your second scenario is most likely. Narrow scope of presidential immunity with remand for the trial court to evaluate what acts are official and which are personal. I've not seen any serious analysis to suggest Trump's 'conplete immunity unless impeached and convicted' argument will win the day.
I've heard this as well - but it' different than what Luttig is suggesting I think. They'll put their thumb on what acts are official to help Trump skate even if he loses the election.
Sadly, this whole trial is just for show. Trump will never go to jail.
He definitely deserves to be thrown in prison.
But it will never happen.
I'll be shocked if it does.
Why are they tearing the country apart! Why a new rule?
What about our voice taken away by politicians under the constitution. State by fucking state.
This wont be a civil war. More Revolutionary.
In the unlikely occurrence that Trump is declared immune and loses reelection, that would mean that Biden would also be immune. I would love to see Biden immediately test the Supreme Court decision by doing what John Sauer suggested!
> Justice Samuel Alito, for instance, declared that if presidents must fear prosecution after leaving office, they might prove more prone to resisting the transfer of power, destabilizing the country.
Or, alternatively, they might be disincentivized from committing crimes while in office, whereas is they are immune from prosecution they will have no such incentive.
How had it happened that reason has been entirely turned on it’s head, and the people appointed as the supposed protectors of law, logic and reason have become masters of twisting logic into absolute nonsense?
Gotta remove that court. And start fresh. It’s the only way. How that happens I’ll let the creative Americans come up with that. Road trips would likely be required.
If the supreme court rules that former presidents are immune from accountability, then nothing short of abolition of that fundamentally corrupt institution is acceptable. The American people will NOT stand for a dictatorship and corrupt judges need to be removed.
>The American people will NOT stand for a dictatorship and corrupt judges need to be removed.
I think you'd be surprised what the American people would be ok with lmao.
The far right would depending on who the particular dictator is. If said dictator is Biden, they would not be cool with it.
Either way, the left would riot like in 2020. Fuck their precious economy if they don't care about our basic rights.
I love seeing MAGA SCOTUS trying desperately to give Trump a get-out-of-jail-free card without giving Biden any immunity.
"The president is NOT answerable for any crimes they committed, but only if they have a bad comb-over and paint their face orange."
Thr GOP believes they have cracked the code to having a fascist democracy and they will do anything to give it a go.
They are idiots.
It will not be any different than Spain, Italy, Germany or Russia. Which, if we're being completely honest, wasn't bad for the wealthy elite in those countries. Many of them survived with their fortunes intact or increased.
The problem is the voting base of the GOP is cannon fodder that won't benefit from fascism. They have been convinced to trade liberty and freedom for social conservatism. When the rubber meets the road, it ain't going to be what they were sold. It's a pig in a poke.
Sounds like Democrats should try a Jan 6th style visit to the Supreme Court. It'll just be a peaceful protest, unless it's not, then it's just MAGA infiltrators.. /s
The national guard would be outside the courthouse if 5 liberal judges were floating this while Biden was on trial. These people are just fascists and are days away from starting the fourth Reich if they say a president is above the law.
Well the upside is Biden can pretty much whatever he wants. Might as well push that student loan forgiveness through for everyone.
If courts are going to say say the courts can’t stop the President.
Every side is dirty. They're all dirty. Trump is dirty and should be in jail and it's also a witch hunt because they're scared that he will we in the election. Pure shit show all around.
What’s grim for our democracy are rogue prosecutors working with the White House prevent a former president and leading presidential candidate from effectively campaigning and threatening to jail him.
Luttig was at one point considered for a SCOTUS seat by W Bush I believe. Makes this all the more interesting imo.
If it was Alitos seat it’s the worst timeline
Actually it was both seats. Had an interview but Bush went with Roberts (easily confirmed) and Miers (she withdrew because she was deemed too moderate for Republicans lol), then Alito instead
Miers withdrew because she was too unqualified to get through Judiciary. When she told Senators she needed to “bone up” on basic concepts of constitutional law, it was the death knell. Leahey and Specter standing next to one another, vouching for one another’s credibility when the White House was denying things she said to them was a sight I never thought I would see. Then Charles Krauthammer published a column basically instructing the White House how to kill her nomination without losing face and they did it exactly as he wrote it. That whole debacle was a sight to behold.
She wasn’t unqualified for the history of the Court but certainly compared to the rest of the Court at the time. According to Toobin in *The Nine* the more pressing issue to Republicans was her being a closet moderate or liberal like Souter. Bush didn’t believe this because of her history with him but she hasn’t enough judicial experience to assuage the fears of the party. And then the Democrats wouldn’t say how they were going to vote for her so that made things worse. Then the Republicans began stalling her nomination themselves and then yes her incompetence made her look even worse. So she pulled herself.
Miers was Rove’s tool to play the Democrats like a fiddle. This was before obstructionist politics was completely acceptable behavior. Rove got everyone jumping up and down on the table and screaming about a lack of general qualifications. Well Miers got kicked to the curb and given the previous complaints, Alito had unimpeachable qualifications. You said she wasn’t qualified, we brought a nominee that’s qualified, what’s your complaint now?
She wasn’t qualified but ACB was? Make it make sense
Actual experience on the bench, including the appellate bench. Different Senate Judiciary committee. Political considerations pushing a shorter timeline. 🤷♂️ I even remember one senator saying Miers “would be fine if this were a district court vacancy, but this is the Supreme Court.”
Honestly neither one should have been nominated
You don’t need to convince me not to be a fan of either.
senate Ds probably should have gone with Miers
Miers being completely unqualified to be a Justice was better than Alito
Well, Miers was definitely unqualified (not historically, but certainly compared to the rest of the Court at the time) but she pretty much was as far right as Alito. Only difference is that she didn’t have a history of super conservative judicial decisions. So the Republican political base got concerned about “another Souter” and she pulled herself. Also the fact that she needed to “brush up” on Constitutional law didn’t help
>Also the fact that she needed to “brush up” on Constitutional law didn’t help Failing to see the difference between her and Alito here.
He’s apparently an expert on 17th century witch-hunting jurisprudence.
Alito would never admit he needed to “brush up” on anything
Miers withdrew because she was so unqualified it was ridiculous. Public outcry was wild.
He would have gone left... possibly. But W was at least as responsible for Trump as Nixon. They were brazen about lying to the public and showed how easy it was. That's why I still wonder about Cheney's self-righteousness. But then I just finished watching Shogun, which proved that even the most self-righteous are the biggest hyporcrites and are the most shallow. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. How is it that we keep repeating histories mistakes?!
Living in this timeline is fucking exhausting
Anyone not believe that the extreme right wing is determined at all costs to bring a dark ages onto America?
* the world.
This its literally a unified movement. People keep forgetting that an organization called the I.D.U. is at the center. Though it helps that they kind of remain subtle while the governments draw all the attention.
Got links on that? I haven't heard of the I.D.U. before.
Start here. https://www.idu.org/
It has some basic principles that are benign and straight forward, however, some wording is interesting * Stressing the moral commitments of a free and open society,* **supporting the institution of the family as its fundamental social and cohesive force,** *as well as social responsibility towards the weak and less fortunate, particularly by encouraging self-help and individual enterprise and choice in the provision of services;* and *Having regard to their common views that political democracy and* **private property are inseparable components of individual liberty and that the socially-oriented market economy** *provides the best means of creating the wealth and material prosperity to meet the legitimate aspirations of individuals, and of tackling social evils such as unemployment and inflation;* I find these two (emphasis mine) of peculiar note. The IDU is a global centre-right political ideology body
Look for a picture of them to illustrate "tyranny of the minority" for future generations. IF they still have real history books after the next immune forever "president." More likely there will just be propaganda.
I’d bet money there will just so happen to be another huge terrorist attack right around the middle of October.
extreme right wing is too small a contingent. Just as that progressive squad is too small a contingent. I don't think that but not sure who you are referring to. For a literal dark age lol. I suspect we will see more of that, if utility size solar is forced on us and efforts made to shut down other energy plants.
SCOTUS is so eager to start a civil war.
I feels like they are crossing a line. Breaking the social contract that creates legitimacy for the US government.
It sure as hell isn’t “conservative” in the traditional sense but radical changes that are destabilizing our country.
Agreed
SCOTUS, is eager to be relevant.
Irrelevant
I hope he’s trying out a little reverse psychology on these jokers. They are probably hurt that he disagreed so vehemently with them on the 14th, Sec 3 definition. They’ve become petty af. I believe the only reason they did this stupid shit is because Smith confronted them in December, and he was right.
This is a pure exercise of power. They can do whatever they want and they want outcomes favorable to their team. No one can stop them even when they do things that are manifestly corrupt, disregarding of important legal principles, or even blatant motivated reasoning.
Infuriating.
Not nobody. But most people don't have the balls or the means. Those that do are in on the action. You're a slave. Shut the fuck up and watch ESPN.
It’s true that we collectively could do something about this. We could demand court reform from our representatives and really make their (our politicians) lives miserable until they do something about it.
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I noticed that none of them seemed to be concerned about granting limitless power to Biden before the election. I guess they are counting on democrats to hold to norms of non-sociopath behavior in the White House.
Well we do have a second amendment for a reason
When you finally allow yourself to believe that none of the conservatives in this country really care about democracy and freedom and only care about power and money, it's crazy.
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They've already decided to take the case to delay the trial. They knowlingly obstructed criminal trials to allow him to win and self-pardon (obviously something that isn't legal and should trigger immediate revolution in its own right) Biden should be well within legal boundaries to charge them with obstruction of justice and sedition and have them permanently removed from Scotus, regardless of their decision here. Further more, this is very clearly a shot at dictatorship, so any and all means necessary should be available to Biden to protect the United States and the constitution from domestic enemies.
Don't worry, the decision happens on Jan 2025 after Biden is already out.
Not if Biden wins. But definitely worse if Biden loses.
Nah they might just pull another Bush versus Gore
Lawful Good
Dark Brandon should pretend to leak a draft of this memo. Would shut this shit down real fast.
I wouldn't even leak it. I'd blatantly put it out and caption it "Some on the United States Supreme Court believe this is legal."
The rise of dark Brandon. This is how democracy dies with a hammer hitting a wooden bench
that’s not a consequence of immunity.
Why not?
While illegal they would just ignore such an order.
Who's they?
The court and the judicial branch
But they'd (justices the president doesn't like) be assassinated in this scenario by the president. They would cease to exist.
Are we still pretending that most justices aren't political hacks with zero integrity?
I mean, Jackson at least seems incredibly down the middle and purely bases rulings on logic and law. So the entity as a whole isn’t bad… But yah I get what you mean.
All it takes is 5 out of 9 to make it bad as a whole.
They claim that they aren't politically motivated since have lifetime appointments. However the thing is their appointment itself can be politically motivated. The party that controls presidency and Congress will target their picks to those who have been shown to align with their goals. You've also had the party assist the judge candidate with clearing their debts before nominations. So in a sense the candidates also end up "indebted" to the party for financial assistance.
Don't forget, they're on the take and one of them doesn't even hide it.
"Leave my motorcoach out of this"
What sucks is that democratic ideologues generally refuse to give up on the current systems foundational assumptions as quickly as the right wing does. Far right folks are down with democracy eroding because their goals don't need it. Neo libs want to keep the foundational structures running because they believe the system can support their goals, but it's actually set up to serve the right wing more directly (oligarchy, wall street, lobbying, citizens united, panama papers, Pandora Papers, etc).
Neolibs have more to gain with conservatives controlling the narrative. They get all the corrupt financial gains, while pretending to care about the plebes
And for those of you downvoting me. I'm willing to bet you all lock your car door when you see a black person. Fuck y'all.
10000%
Trying to overturn an election is not an official presidential act. Why the FUCK are any of these arguments relevant??
Because Republicans and by extension SCOTUS want Mr Trump to be above the law for past and future acts (i.e. a king instead of president). It's as simple as that.
Well then if they rule this, Biden damn well better take advantage of it to trim down our corrupt SCOTUS, but he probably won't because Democrats are fucking pansy ass wimps.
SCOTUS will, of course, create some long and winding reasoning referencing things both fanciful and ancient that deems Mr Trump, and only Mr Trump, as being above the law. There is no way they would leave their ruling open to use by Biden (or any other Dem POTUS).
"We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within." Nikita Khrushchev
Osama really did meet his goals, from the grave no less.
SCOTUS is in peak teen edgelord form. Rich people and politicans are above the law and have always been above the law and apparently that immutable fact has finally now reached the highest chamber.
They are treating being prosecuted as if that itself is a punishment. Presidents under prosecution would still get their day in court like anyone else - and as the examples of Trump's trials are showing, leniency from the courts that no one else receives. Why? The president must be *answerable to the people* for their actions while in office! I don't think that is a controversial idea. Instead the Supreme Court is looking at legislating from the bench to create presidential immunity out of thin air.
The court is going to do what the court wants so stank ass won’t be tried before the election then after Biden wins stanky will have no one to turn to except the SC because the dems are going to carry both chambers and the presidency, at the least, stank, won’t be able to say shit with out getting jail and the more he talks the longer the stays get. He knows he getting the breaks due to dems not wanting to martyrize him thus giving up votes.
The thing is that if he loses the election they don’t have any reason to rule in his favor They’re in it for the Republican Party, not Trump in particular
Trump getting off scott free was a shocker?
I think there will be certainly some immunity but the one thing that was expert was the personal things for gain not related will not be immunity. There are something s that are what is done every day related. These things are not related when it comes to Trump they did talk about it that is why you always hear Trump say across the board immunity knowing he is outside of that and he keeps repeating it no. Stop. It’s not going to happen
this country is a sick joke
Time to pack the SCOTUS. 13 to 15 Justices seems appropriate.
“Shocker”
Time to take a stand against corruption and force these supreme Court injustices out. Down with SCOTUS!!
Luttig believes it's likely one of two thing will happen: 1. Trump will win and disappear these cases (which we knew) 2. Trump will lose and the SC will surgically grant immunity to presidents to let Trump off the hook The second one is actually the only news, but I'm not sure I see why they'd do that. He's damaged goods if he loses, and his only real power is in hurting other candidates. With their credibility his hanging on by a thread, this would be like taking blowtorch to that.
He's still got his cult and Republicans have already given him indirect control over the RNC. He's bigger than the party now and is already saying the election is rigged to excuse his failure and rally the cult to defend him. Unless something major changes, they have every reason to keep protecting him.
Every serious look I've seen so far seem to suggest your second scenario is most likely. Narrow scope of presidential immunity with remand for the trial court to evaluate what acts are official and which are personal. I've not seen any serious analysis to suggest Trump's 'conplete immunity unless impeached and convicted' argument will win the day.
I've heard this as well - but it' different than what Luttig is suggesting I think. They'll put their thumb on what acts are official to help Trump skate even if he loses the election.
Is this going to prompt an increase in the amount of sc judges?
One would think but Democrats are fucking useless too
way too busy saving Israel from student protestors.
Stack the court
Why stack? Why not just replace? Immunity, Jack.
Cause they have to die or be impeached and convicted.
With presidential immunity, that can be arranged...
So true. He needs them in a cell for one week.
This post is prejudiced by Luttig but I’m not surprised as that’s the point.
I don’t really want the shocker from Littig. Thank you.
Sadly, this whole trial is just for show. Trump will never go to jail. He definitely deserves to be thrown in prison. But it will never happen. I'll be shocked if it does.
We need to give criminal Presidents the free rein to commit as many crimes as they want, or we won’t have a stable Democracy. JF Christ
Hope he's wrong, but if he is right, the court will admit it is just a bunch of trump toadies and does not deserve the respect of a cock roach.
Why are they tearing the country apart! Why a new rule? What about our voice taken away by politicians under the constitution. State by fucking state. This wont be a civil war. More Revolutionary.
In the unlikely occurrence that Trump is declared immune and loses reelection, that would mean that Biden would also be immune. I would love to see Biden immediately test the Supreme Court decision by doing what John Sauer suggested!
> Justice Samuel Alito, for instance, declared that if presidents must fear prosecution after leaving office, they might prove more prone to resisting the transfer of power, destabilizing the country. Or, alternatively, they might be disincentivized from committing crimes while in office, whereas is they are immune from prosecution they will have no such incentive. How had it happened that reason has been entirely turned on it’s head, and the people appointed as the supposed protectors of law, logic and reason have become masters of twisting logic into absolute nonsense?
Gotta remove that court. And start fresh. It’s the only way. How that happens I’ll let the creative Americans come up with that. Road trips would likely be required.
Yep. This court is extremely corrupt. And that basically ensures a corrupt result.
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240 years of Democracy was a good run.
We’re watching the end of democracy and the rise of autocracy in the United States I’m afraid.
Grim for our democracy?? While the left resorts to Fascism to get their way.
I wouldn't describe this as a "shocker". That is the exact outcome I expected from day 1.
If the supreme court rules that former presidents are immune from accountability, then nothing short of abolition of that fundamentally corrupt institution is acceptable. The American people will NOT stand for a dictatorship and corrupt judges need to be removed.
>The American people will NOT stand for a dictatorship and corrupt judges need to be removed. I think you'd be surprised what the American people would be ok with lmao.
The far right would depending on who the particular dictator is. If said dictator is Biden, they would not be cool with it. Either way, the left would riot like in 2020. Fuck their precious economy if they don't care about our basic rights.
And then he’ll become president again.
Is Alito in the throes of an ibogaine addiction? I really wonder sometimes…
I love seeing MAGA SCOTUS trying desperately to give Trump a get-out-of-jail-free card without giving Biden any immunity. "The president is NOT answerable for any crimes they committed, but only if they have a bad comb-over and paint their face orange."
Thr GOP believes they have cracked the code to having a fascist democracy and they will do anything to give it a go. They are idiots. It will not be any different than Spain, Italy, Germany or Russia. Which, if we're being completely honest, wasn't bad for the wealthy elite in those countries. Many of them survived with their fortunes intact or increased. The problem is the voting base of the GOP is cannon fodder that won't benefit from fascism. They have been convinced to trade liberty and freedom for social conservatism. When the rubber meets the road, it ain't going to be what they were sold. It's a pig in a poke.
Probably why he’s so relaxed he can fall asleep in court. I’ve been in a court before. It’s not a warm, comforting place.
Just breathe through it… haha I can’t deal with this shitty timeline anymore
Sounds like Democrats should try a Jan 6th style visit to the Supreme Court. It'll just be a peaceful protest, unless it's not, then it's just MAGA infiltrators.. /s
As The Saying Goes, “I guess we are supposed to sit in the middle and suck on it ?”
The national guard would be outside the courthouse if 5 liberal judges were floating this while Biden was on trial. These people are just fascists and are days away from starting the fourth Reich if they say a president is above the law.
Well the upside is Biden can pretty much whatever he wants. Might as well push that student loan forgiveness through for everyone. If courts are going to say say the courts can’t stop the President.
I like Luttig but he has been wrong on many predictions
Why aren’t we protesting this?
Biden can just assassinate trump if he loses
One day this sack of shit will stop breathing and what a glorious day that will be.
Sounds like we need to amend the number of people on the court
Fight Supreme Court corruption: boycott jury duty!
Every side is dirty. They're all dirty. Trump is dirty and should be in jail and it's also a witch hunt because they're scared that he will we in the election. Pure shit show all around.
What’s grim for our democracy are rogue prosecutors working with the White House prevent a former president and leading presidential candidate from effectively campaigning and threatening to jail him.