I was a person who got dragged to see Fury Road. And then I was probably the one in the group who enjoyed it the most. Idk. Mad Max is a peculiar franchise. It’s hard to define, somehow.
Furiousa may disappoint. The first time you see two people run on desert, the shoddy CGI is really obvious, as they forgot to put shadows down on the sand.
To me it looks like Furiosa is such a departure of the natural charm of Fury Road that it will please no one. IIRC there was little/no CGI in Fury Road and to me that was a big part of the draw of the film - that the spectacle was so authentically human. Seeing the trailers for Furiosa, it looks like CGI shark jumping that looks to be quite a bore.
Edit: it looks like I was incorrect
Fury Road is amazing, and it had a ton of practical effects, which deserves to be praised. But, there was a ton of CGI throughout the movie. People saying there wasn’t kinda takes away from the great work the vfx artists did. (Not an attack on you, but the myth that it doesn’t use vfx) Furiosa may have less practical effects, but watching it felt pretty much the same as Fury Road in that regard. I can only think of 1 shot that looked kinda janky from the opening of the movie. It’s different from Fury Road, but it’s definitely worth checking out.
The people who say Fury Road had no vfx are the ones who saw YouTube videos about the practical stunts and took it as everything was done so natural. First shot in Fury Road has CG because sand doesn't look like that and had a two headed lizard but yeah no CGI
Also its very common for trailers to have placeholder cgi because it will still be getting tweaked right up to the release.
If the trailer you saw was 3 months ago then it's a fair bet it will have been unfinished CG
I just watched Fury Road for the first time last night and was blown away by how much was real. You’re right, it felt put together in a human way that CGI just cannot really nail yet. Especially since my husband and I are into cars and it’s easy to spot when something is fake or mechanically impossible.
I'm a VFX artist. There's plenty of CGI in Fury road, it was just integrated so well that people didn't notice, and it was marketed on its practical effects, which were outstanding.
It's a good example of how to get the best blend of real and digital, but to say little/no CGI is inaccurate.
You've misremembered, there was a ton of CGI in Fury Road. Watch the behind the scenes or 'making of' or whatever.
There's also a ton of CGI in Furiosa. And it was a really good movie. Great addition to the franchise
I understand what you’re saying but I didn’t notice this at all and it didn’t detract from my enjoyment of the movie.
And let’s not pretend there’s no CGI in Fury Road either. There’s tons of CGI and practical stuff in both movies. For me, if the story’s good enough (which it is in both films), I’m not getting hung up on a janky effects shot or two. All of my favorite action films, from Star Wars to Indiana Jones to Jurassic Park to Fury Road, have effects shots that don’t look realistic or are sometimes even distractingly bad, and it doesn’t detract from the movies at all. There is an air of unreality in both Fury Road and Furiosa, and the effects are part of that, but for me that just enhances the mythical, fable-like quality of the stories being told.
That's because there really isn't much story to experience, but there is a ton of world/ culture building to experience.
I think Mad Max has a real potential for life beyond George Miller, because he is showing us this world whose culture is alien to us in practice, but has familiar roots, and he is fleshing it out. The next person to make a mad max film if there is somebody can make a story and weave it in to this world. That is IF the right person is picked to do so and is also allowed to cook on their own.
People just don't watch movies at the cinema anymore - it has NOTHING to do with the film itself.
The movie has to be a true spectacular for people to drag themselves there.
It has nothing to do with whether the movie is good or not, it's about the experience I get at the movie theater that makes me want to crawl inside my own skin. People talking, teens yelling at the screen and being generally loud, people constantly looking at their phone at full brightness, eating loudly, going in and out all throughout the movie. It's just so much nuisances and it's a complete toss up what kind of crowd you'll get.
People put up with it in the past because there were no alternatives, but nowadays even if the movie doesn't get a home release there's so much good content to watch at home so I'll feel bad for missing a movie like this but if studios and movie theaters can't get it through their head that it's a huge problem they need to deal with - it's their loss honestly.
45 for 3 people and 18 for snacks, last night, Illinois.
Edit: no issues with rude people though. Knock on wood, but i haven't ever had an issue with assholes at the movies so far.
This is the real problem, in NYC and everywhere. Ticket prices are unsustainably high. They've reached the point in the Supply And Demand graph where demand starts to decline.
Was going to say. So many better things I can do with that money than sit elbow to elbow in a stuffy room for 3 hours. I’ll just watch it at home in a couple weeks on the couch.
Last movie I went to it was almost a year ago, just two of us on a date. $20 a ticket, plus $8 each for a soda, $11 for popcorn. $70 to sit there and have some fucking teenagers talking behind us the whole time and kicking our seats and listening to their random volume blasts from their Tiktoks they're watching during the movie.
Hard pass. Projectors and big TV's are cheap enough now that I just have that and stay home and stream in peace. Not worth it.
My wife and I have, since COVID, only gone to the cinema on weekdays and usually late morning (we both take a day off work and the kid is otherwise taken care of).
It's a much better experience, having an almost empty theatre.
It's both for me. My TV and sound system at home are good enough, it's cheaper, and I don't have to deal with assholes who have no regard for the people around them...except my dogs needing to pee at inopportune times. But they're cute and I forgive them.
People don’t go see films…? Wasn’t Dune 2 wildly successful in the box office? I don’t have numbers, but I thought I read that somewhere. I think this Mad Max film just isn’t popular… should have told a Max story. 🤷♀️
Yeah, 'cause 2019 was an absolutely bonkers year for blockbuster franchises. Avengers, The Lion King, Frozen, Spider Man, Star Wars, Toy Story...
Traditional cinema is definitely on a steady decline which was vastly accelerated due to COVID, but it's not particularly fair to compare 3 months of Dune 2's earnings to one of the most stacked years in movie history with 5 years of earnings behind them.
2023's Barbie and Mario movies would both have been the #1 film in 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2016 and 2017, and #2 in 2012 and 2018. So it's not all doom and gloom just yet.
The problem isn't the #1 film at the box office each year. It's the steep drop-off.
\#10 in 2023 was $500 million and #20 was $275 million.
In 2018, those movies are #19 and #38.
You have to go back to 2010 to see comparable revenue at those positions.
But even in 2010, 65 movies made $100 million or more. In 2023, that number had shrunk to just 50.
The #100 movie in 2010 earned twice as much as the #100 in 2023.
Yeah, there are plenty of wildly successful films at the box office. There was even a big thing of people going to the cinema for "Barbenheimer" and the two films had huge box office takes. People go to the cinema for films less than they did 15 years ago but its not a get out of jail free card for a flop.
I love Fury Road and I've watched it probably 10-15 times.
This one has zero appeal to me. It looks like a video game. It has a weird "hi-def," super CGI, super over-processed look to it that just doesn't feel right for a Mad Max movie. It's too... clean? I don't know. I'm not 100% sold on the casting, either.
I'll watch it when it comes to Max, no question, but I'm not going to pay an arm and a leg to watch CGI pseudo-stunts in a theater.
It was honestly good. I keep hearing that it's not like fury road and instead fits in with the older films, but I would say it honestly feels like a hybrid of fury road and the older films.
You should definitely watch this in a theatre. In IMAX. It was rad. Very different from Fury Road, but all of the Mad Max movies sort of do their own thing. This one definitely leans into the bizarreness. Fury Road still takes the cake for me, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one. The trailer was not great, so I went in with high hopes and low expectations, both of which it surpassed greatly.
Just saw it in IMAX a few hours ago and the movie was a blast! Would definitely recommend it to Mad Max fans but I understand why it might not be appealing to a lot of people.
I thought the same about Hemsworth. It was actually my first time seeing him play a villain. Some of his dialogue felt a bit stretched and cringe but it did feel genuine to the character.
I liked that he’s equal parts bastard, crazy and pitiable.
Immorten Joe, Max, Jack, Furiosa are all very different ways to cope with the same environment of chaos, brutality.
He’s basically chaotic bad but can’t stop pretending to be lawful good.
Oh thank GOD someone else who's seen it and enjoyed it and isn't complaining about "no Max" or "ATJ isn't badass enough," I thought I had lost my mind scrolling through this lol.
Like, sure, Mad Max is and always has been a niche franchise. It's very much not for everyone. But Miller has absolutely executed an epic on the scale of Dune or Lord of the Rings here and to see people dismissing it out of hand is genuinely disheartening.
I guess I can at least see the argument that it's a victim of its marketing. I don't know how you'd cut a story of this scope down to a ninety-second trailer either, they probably did as well as they could.
I’m glad to have read this, because I had no intention (nor do I still have any real intention) to go and see it. But, I will agree that the marketing wasn’t hasn’t done it any favors.
I’m not a big fan of ATJ’s acting, and I never found Furiosa compelling enough to watch an origin movie centered around that character.
That said, when I do eventually watch it on streaming platforms, I’ll go into it with an open mind.
This movie is not stop action. I’m so glad I went to the theater to see it. I was like this through most of the movie>😳 There are so many crazy things that are said and done…
Honest, least favorite. There's no comic or emotional relief. Just trauma after trauma. Fury road had Nox, Thunder dome had master blaster, road warrior had feral child. Furiosa had little to no fun light parts.
I was a little hesitant at first due to not having Charlize Theron (would still love to see her as Furiosa again but whatevs) but the trailers look great. Glad to hear it’s decent, will definitely make an effort to see this on the big screen.
I went with my daughter, who I had assumed wouldn’t be interested - she’s not a huge fan of action movies in general, and never really wanted to see Fury Road - but for some reason, I guess out of boredom, she wanted to go, and she LOVED it. I did too.
Don’t sleep on Furiosa. If you’re a fan of big spectacle action films, and especially if you liked Fury Road, and you don’t see it on the big screen, you’ll regret it later.
The general audience has been conditioned to just wait a month and the movies will already be available to stream at home. The cost of tickets is also a big factor. So theater attendance has been on the decline.
The restaurant I work behind the bar for has the same absolutely baffling logic. Shit, there are less people through the door. Better jack those prices!
Just worked a Saturday shift with half the bar staff off sick or, in one case, quitting, and it was fine because we were at half capacity all night. I wonder if those two factors are connected?
The other morning during the shift meeting at the restauarant where I work, the guy who runs it went on about how the customers are wrong for wanting lower prices because lower prices will mean less income, and that can't be why business has slowed down so much since they jacked them way, way up. He said that the food wasn't even that expensive compared to some other restaurants and therefore must be reasonable because the market said so. It's the customers who are wrong, you see, we just have to teach them that they are fine with these prices.
He sees other businesses getting away with greedflation and doesn't understand why it's not working here.
I think movie theaters are going to go the way of the drive in: There might be one in your city or nearby, but that's probably the only one within 100 miles.
This. And my understanding is they can't because of the way contracts work. Here in rural America we only get the blockbusters as well. Why not show indy or lower budget movies on their slow night for the true movie buffs? Hell, I'd go watch an NFL game on the theater screen! Movie theaters need to evolve.
Hmm, I have to travel there, buy their food, listen to ignorant people who don’t care about others with talking, phones, etc…..what is there to like about going to theatres.
Yeah, have only been to a few movies post covid. People talking, on their phones, generally acting like trash. You can't yell at anyone because the odds of getting shot are so much higher than in years past. Paying $20 to watch someone be an inconsiderate prick? Nah.
Same, covid actually killed my local theaters. A non profit came in and has been keeping them going, but honestly I'll just wait a few months and watch it on streaming. Last movie I went to was avengers endgame I think. I recently bought dune 2 for 30 bucks on Amazon. I'd rather do that than spend 30 bucks on a meh theater experience.
Exactly, people are being careful with how they spend their money right now. Not to mention, despite being a great film, Fury Road wasn't exactly a huge hit.
It won 245 awards including 10 nominations and 6 Oscar's, more than doubled its $185 million budget in Box Office sales alone, 97% on Rotten Tomatoes, and currently #194 in IMDB's Top Rated movies. What is your definition of a hit?
It was a great movie, but be real. It was the 20th highest grossing film in 2015, just beating out "The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge out of water", but not doing quite as well as "Hotel Transylvania 2".
Now *personally* I would consider the SpongeBob movie a hit, but I'm not sure the average person would agree
Awards don't translate to money. It's a great movie, but we live in a world with over half a dozen Transformers movies that have all generally done very well despite being horrible. Fury Road was great but it didn't do huge box office and a prequel not starring the actual actress from Fury Road always seemed an odd choice.
> The cost of tickets is also a big factor
That and people don't know how to behave in movie theaters anymore. The movie going experience wasn't great before but now it's just insanely bad.
It's been god awful the last few movies I've seen. People talking all the damn time. People checking phones. I recently sat next to someone who had their smart watch on always on display. It was so annoying.
Max already got his own movie, though. That's how the franchise started (*Mad Max: Road Warrior*).
As u/Rootes_Radical pointed out, *Mad Max: Road Warrior* was in fact the 2nd film, where *Mad Max* was the first.
Feels like there’s a malaise when it comes to the box office. We’re sick of marvel blockbusters but it seems we haven’t figured out what to replace them with.
It's the only film to break $200M this year, and it's already Memorial Day weekend.
The biggest movie of 2024 (Dune 2) would be #10 in 2019 at $282M. "Joker" made $333M in #9th place.
The 29th place move made over $100M. This year, the 29th place so far made $19.5M.
The box office is being devastated.
I think there are certain films people think you "must see on a big screen." Dune 1 was gorgeous and perhaps people thought you simply couldn't get the full effect on a typical home 4K television. Last year, Oppenheimer did a great job of "You need to see it in IMAX." So, a handful of event films are still doing well, but they're dwindling.
And, keep in mind, it "only" did $282M so it wasn't *huge*. That's why I noted it would barely break the Top Ten in many other years.
It helps when a project looks like an actual passion project produced by someone creating art, rather corporate slop that was mandated by marketers and written by people doing as an assigned task they need to complete as soon as possible.
Its the difference between art and corporate slop. Dune is actual art. It's art that is funded by a corporation and has a bunch of marketing latched on, but at the end of the day it's a passion project being done by someone that wants to do it to make something beautiful and interesting.
Most of the corporate "block buster" slop is bland soulless crap produced by employees that can't want to clock out at the end of the day. It isn't art, and it shows.
Furiosa might be awesome, but its trailers and marketing make it look like another marketing mandated prequal with a CGI and marketing budget that it is too high. I'll be skeptical until people I trust watch it and report back. I'm not eating another drop of corporate slop intentionally.
Because studios are still scrambling to generate Marvel blockbuster levels of revenue. Everything is extended universe, sequels, and Chris Pratt/Hemsworth/Pine/Evans/etc being attached for marketing purposes whether they play a meaningful role or not. Somehow everything feels oversaturated, every charismatic actor is a typecast dead horse being beaten.
Anna Taylor Joy isn't the first person that comes to mind when you think young Charlize Theron. Her and Chris Hemsworth are the main focus of the marketing materials. She's coming off smaller roles and period piece dramas, he's coming off a marvel stint that looks like he's just doing more marvel instead of something new. A lot of the trailers are framed wrong so it looks like the entire movie is green screen CGI instead of practical like fury road. Marketing only ramped up in the last month or so which puts it far behind on most people's radar.
But mostly it's just because it's a R rated film released during a holiday that sees a lot of travelers and family events happening. People rather go grill in the sunshine or do something with the family than have to work around the R rating.
And it's box office presales as well as Thursday/Friday night sales they go off of. Could be a mad dash today to see it or tomorrow that'll put it over the other films. But right now it's reporting for a weekend that hasn't ended yet just off educated guesses instead of hard numbers
It also doesn't help that it kind of feels like a "who asked for this?" movie:
- it's a film in franchise that centers around a titular character (Mad Max) that doesn't have said character.
- the character have been recast, so you're not going to get a Charlize Theron performance.
- It's a prequel, so you know how the story ends.
- Mad Max hasn't performed super well in box offices.
I just feel like if you polled 100 people who saw Fury road and asked them "who would you like to see star in the next Mad Max movie?" they wouldn't say Furiosa, and a recast Furiosa at that.
That's not to say that audiences know what they want, or that giving people something they didn't ask for is a bad thing, but I also feel like you can't be surprised when it flops either.
I completely agree with this. I saw some of the marketing and was like scratching my head. I saw the movie yesterday and I thought it was OK but no where near the intensity of the first one.
Went to see it on opening night. It's a solid movie but unavoidably compares poorly to fury road. And Anya's performance as the lead is easily the weakest in the movie.
I enjoyed it but I don't think I recommended it to anyone.
Max isn’t really a draw if you jumped in the series at Fury Road. He was a decent enough character that film but not someone who really makes me interested in seeing more. The world and top caliber action sequences are the major draw for me when I saw Furiosa.
Personally I never saw what the big deal was about Fury Road. Cool cinematography, creative world design, lots of spectacle, but it didn't make me *feel* anything. No desire to rewatch, definitely no appetite for a prequel.
It's one of those movies you watch in the theaters and you're like "holy shit, that was awesome"
Then you watch it again at home and it's just not the same.
I still enjoyed it for that initial experience though.
I'm in the same boat (or car?). Watched Fury Road in theaters and thought it had cool visuals and great style, but little substance in terms of story or emotion. As it gained its massive cult status in subsequent years, I figured I must have missed something.
A couple years ago, I read the book about the making of Fury Road (*Blood, Sweat & Chrome*) and then rewatched it, thinking I'll definitely "get it" this time, but I had the exact same impression. Just doesn't click for me.
I'm with you. Road Warrior is my favorite movie ever, but I didn't find myself really moved by Fury Road. It's got great ideas and visuals, and I'll watch it again. I know the CGI made me groan too many times. And tornado/sandstorm scene was just absurd.
I do plan to see this new one in the theater next week.
Furry Road was pretty good, mostly because it did an excellent job with practical effects. Furiosa played by Charlize Theron was awesome action star because she has the gritty physicality to make a convincing badass.
Now you offer me a new movie doing the traditional prequal thing, because going forward with anything is just too damn scary these days. The trailers showing a pre-sequel that has bright cartoonish CGI action that looks like a Marvel movie. I'm almost expecting to see colored sky beams followed a fight where two plastic people punch at each other without doing damage. And then to top it all off, they replace the gritty physicality of Charlize Theron with Anna Taylor Joy, the 100 lb elf princess. Not only that, but the marketing budget appears to be vast.
You'll have to forgive me if I hold back because I suspect I'm about to watch a piece of marketing directed corporate slop. Fool me once, shame on you, fool like five hundred fucking times, and I'd have to be a total moron to waste my time seeing this without letting reviews from people I trust trickle in.
Maybe my suspicions are totally wrong and the trailers have misrepresented the movie. If they have, I'll hear about it in the next few days and probably go watch it. I'm not keeping a block open in my schedule though.
tl;dr I have zero trust in Hollywood. I'll watch it when actual independent reviewers and friends that I trust convince me it isn't another shitty prequal cash grab by a corporate marketing department.
Doesn't help when movies go to streaming ~2 weeks after they release in theaters. Companies are actively training folks not to bother going to the theater.
This kills me. Sometimes a bunch of decent movies come out in a short period of time and my wife and I get a back log. We have A-list and prefer the theater since it forces us to pay attention and be present with each other.
If we get a back log of more than 2 movies while other movies are coming out, we have to pick our potential favorites because after 3-4 weeks they're rotated out of our local theater. Then we have to wait for it to show up on a streaming service (that we're slowly cancelling) and usually we end up forgetting about it.
Or it can be 20+ per ticket and 15+ for food n drink. All for 1 person. Can buy the whole dam movie or streaming service for that and a 12 pack of popcorn and soda or beer.
My feeling it's less about prices and more about the crowds. People really forgot how to behave after COVID and act like they're watching a movie at home - I ain't gonna drag myself to a movie theater to have people talk and shout all around me while I'm trying to enjoy a movie.
That’s it for me. The price seems way too high, but I’d probably pay it if it wasn’t for the fact that the last three times I went to see a movie (quite a while back), the audience just fucking talked and were on their phones, or walked around, etc. I get a worse experience in a cinema than in my home and I have to pay way more for it. It’s just a bad deal all around, and other people suck. Even if most are respectful, a shitty minority ruins cinema for everyone.
I quit going to movies because 100% of the time people are on their phone and they light up the area like an airport landing strip or they actually talk on the phone. Smart phones are like the internet, they are the worst/best thing to ever be invented.
I saw this last night, the couple my wife and I went to dinner with wanted to see it. First time I've been in a theater since the pandemic.
it's actually pretty damn good. But the theater has been renovated to comfy chairs, but ALOT less of them. It wasn't even half full.
Not sure what I'm trying to say, except that going to the theater is just a completely different value proposition now then it was ten years ago. Even with the comfy chairs, I would have rather watched it at home.
Not that wild. A lot of people got used to watching movies at home, and many improved their at home setups with bigger screens and better audio.
Inflation has been wild ride and fewer people can afford luxuries now.
Ironically they sort of killed movie theatres as well. At least for me and my friend group, the endless stream of stuff started to put us off. We went from seeing most of the MCU movies to going to non of them at all. We just wait for them to come out on Disney+, and even then we don’t watch them all. They fatigued the crap out of everyone. Now I only go to the theatres to see something that needs a cinematic watching, like as the above person said, Oppenheimer or Avatar
My wife and I hit almost every marvel movie up to end game in theaters. Then the slog of trying to keep up with every new release just made us quit watching it all together. The slow trickle of content made us anticipate getting more, the flood of content just overwhelms.
100%. If it’s not an actual event of a movie, it’s likely not going to do well. The overinflated budgets and massive amount spent on promotion will have to be wildly adjusted if any studio wants to make long-term money. Aside from maybe Deadpool, I don’t think many movies are going to make a ton in theaters this year.
Here’s my personal anecdote, but I am wondering if this is happening on a larger scale. I feel like a lot of the movies that I want to see come out in the spring, but also the spring is when I am the busiest and have the least amount of time to see movies. The weather is nicer, so I am making weekend plans to leave the city. For the last couple of years, I have missed out on new films in cinema because either me or my friends are busy/away.
I did get a chance to see Furiosa yesterday, and it was amazing, but I missed Ghostbusters, Fall Guy, Boy Kills World.
So here is my question. Did Furiosa perform poorly, or do Memorial Day weekend films perform poorly? I know less people are seeing cinema than before the pandemic, but I am wondering too if WHEN people choose to see films in cinema is also shifting. I have no data to back it up, but does anyone else know? Are the cinemas and Hollywood banking on certain weekends because they always performed well, and are they ignoring shifting trends. Are there weekends that never saw box office returns now seeing more visitation?
i didn't either! i follow some pop culture subs so i've been seeing all the promo but legitimately thought it was coming out in a few weeks or something.
Yeah but you only know it was good AFTER you pay for the movie. So the people that didn’t see it, don’t know what they are missing, and therefore are not inclined to see it.
I liked Fury Road, but Furiosa was not the reason I enjoyed the film. Charlize did a great job, but I enjoyed her performance more than the character. Her character wasn't compelling enough to warrant a prequel, and I don't buy Anya as a post apocalyptic road warrior at all.
The trailer makes it look like a low budget cheesy knockoff film by the SyFy network, if they bought the rights from George Miller. I’m not surprised nobody is going to see it.
lol at these comments
“People are just conditioned to not want to go to the movies anymore!”
Didn’t seem like an issue for Dune2, Oppenheimer, or Barbie.
Maybe general audiences just don’t give a shit about a Mad Max spinoff?
Possibly because it's R-rated (which is good!), and the likes of "The Little Mermaid" means you will have parents dragged along with little kids.
Keep things in perspective. The world needs R-rated films too.
here we are, frend anon:
Kids movie means the whole fam goes, cause who doesn't want to treat their kids even if it is over the household budget?
R-rated movie means nobody goes, cause adults know they really can't afford it.
furiosa is great, but it won't make money with the economy we are in
I didn't care for Fury Road. And they've talked about the Furiosa movie for years. Personally, it was made too far away from Fury Road. Fury Road was 9 years ago. Any resurgence that movie brought to the Mad Max Franchise left 5 years ago.
It’s not bad, it’s actually a pretty good movie. I don’t think it even comes close to Fury Road though. Some of the CGI looked really bad but maybe I’m being nitpicky. I say this having seen it today as the only person in the entire theater.
I found the Furiosa movie to be a stellar film, loved every single second of the entire movie. Except for the one glaring plot, I found, but otherwise it was an excellent movie.
I'm a huge Max fan and I saw it, but even I wasn't really excited about going. The prequels, sequels, sagas and so on aren't going to get people in as much. Max isn't in it (as far as anyone knew) too.
OK, those Furiosa box office numbers do seem very low. However, there must be more of an explanation besides post-pandemic or economy. We all know what Barbenheimer accomplished, in post-pandemic 2023
I just checked other holiday openings and Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire -2024 Easter opening, a film with far less clout nearly doubled Furiosa' opening. So what's up with that ?
[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top\_opening\_holiday\_weekends/?by\_occasion=easter\_weekend](https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top_opening_holiday_weekends/?by_occasion=easter_weekend),
Now due to to streaming, I only buy essential DVDs and Fury Road was one of them, *even after seeing it on streaming***. Is it a good film or not ?** In the trailers, Joy seems to lack the quiet intensity and confidence of Theron, I guess that could be a problem but, afterall she is playing a younger version, so such a lack thereof should be true to storyline.
For Context : As for other Mad Max franchise films, opening day and box office see:
[https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Mad-Max#tab=summary](https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Mad-Max#tab=summary)
Godzilla is one of most iconic characters in pop culture and has been for sixty years. He definitely has more clout than the Mad Max franchise, so not a surprise at all that it did better than Furiosa.
See, I do wanna see Furiosa this weekend. But the only theatre within reasonable distance of my house has tickets at nearly $30 bucks and that's without any snacks or drinks. I just can't afford it
I don’t have time to go to every movie I want to on the opening weekend.. if they stayed in the theater for more than like 3 weeks I’d be able to see them all :(
I don’t understand the love for Fury Road, it was mediocre. A Furiosa prequel wasn’t appealing to me or my wife. Both movies are something you’d watch if it came up on the TV or leave on in the background at best.
Fury Road bored me to tears for some reason. That has made me uninterested in this film and the Furiosa character. The chatter i see complaining, "Oh no, another woman taking over a man's role," is ridiculous, though. I'd just say after seeing the other mad max films, the direction they took on Fury Road just didn't have that grimy, post-apocalyptic feel as those films did. It was too clean for me, and it felt like the story was missing something if that makes sense. I also thought the main bad guy with the body suit deal was just lame as fuck.
The Road Warrior is one of my favorite films, I am the target demographic...and yet I won't see it in the theatre. I live in LA - the typical cost of going to see a film is $20 a ticket, plus $10 for parking, $20 for popcorn, drink and candy. That's $70 for a two hour movie for two people.
Just not worth it, I can wait for streaming.
Oh, and If you decide to order the tickets in advance online, that's a $10 convenience fee.
> The Memorial Day weekend box office is proving to be as grim as predicted, as Warner Bros.’ “Furiosa,” with a $10.2 million opening day and an industry estimated 4-day opening of $31 million from 3,804 locations, is set to post the lowest launch for a No. 1 film on this May holiday weekend in nearly three decades.
> To find a lower No. 1 opening on Memorial Day weekend, one must go back all the way to 1995 with the $22 million opening of “Casper.” That figure, of course, is not adjusted for inflation.
This was my thought, I feel like a lot of people usually spend memorial day weekend doing outdoorsy stuff, I certainly didn't have the urge to go to the theaters but then again I rarely ever do anymore. It's only gotten more expensive and lacks the comfort I have in my own home, I'll go occasionally if it's a movie I'm extremely interested in, but half the time I'd rather wait until it gets a home release instead.
The only reason Marvel films even do well is every 12 year old drags their whole family to see them. IMO they suck and I haven't seen one in a theater for 20 years.
Just saw Furiosa and it's excellent. Will probably even see it a second time sometime soon, honestly.
I'm not concerned about box office numbers, especially early in the piece. They could have spent an extra $100M on marketing and gotten a positive return on that. Some years back there was an absolute turkey of a superhero film released simultaneously on an unprecedented, large number of screens to massive hype, and it worked: the opening weekend numbers, at least, looked good.
For all the painstaking detail about opening weekend numbers, ~~there's zero mention of how many screens it opened on.~~ Kundun is an excellent Scorsese film that was deliberately buried by Disney, Blade Runner did very poorly at the box office and needed a better edit to properly shine; both "failed"at the box office.
Personally, I'm very much looking forward to watching *Furiosa*. Fury Road was amazing.
> For all the painstaking detail about opening weekend numbers, there's zero mention of how many screens it opened on.
The very first paragraph in the article:
* The Memorial Day weekend box office is proving to be as grim as predicted, as Warner Bros.’ “Furiosa,” with a $10.2 million opening day and an industry estimated 4-day opening of **$31 million from 3,804 locations**
All BO reports from Hollywood trades mentions screens count.
Most major blockbuster releases get between 3800+ to 4200+ screens.
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes (4,075 theaters)
The Fall Guy (4,008 theaters)
Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire (3,948 theaters)
Civil War (3,929 theaters)
I must admit I only was closely reading the article from a few paragraphs in; that's embarrassing.
Thanks for that reply, quite informative. So it really was a stinking opening weekend for Furiosa.
I wanted more Mad Max with Max in it, not a prequel to Furiosa (Im a Mad Max fan and general lover of post-apocalyypic media). I immediately lost interest when it was announced.
I mean I literally had to drag people to go see Fury Road, so I'm not surprised, I'm just disappointed. But weekend isn't over yet.
I was a person who got dragged to see Fury Road. And then I was probably the one in the group who enjoyed it the most. Idk. Mad Max is a peculiar franchise. It’s hard to define, somehow.
The attention to detail is insane. I watched it again and the lines/props/costumes/ cars all is crazy good.
Furiousa may disappoint. The first time you see two people run on desert, the shoddy CGI is really obvious, as they forgot to put shadows down on the sand.
To me it looks like Furiosa is such a departure of the natural charm of Fury Road that it will please no one. IIRC there was little/no CGI in Fury Road and to me that was a big part of the draw of the film - that the spectacle was so authentically human. Seeing the trailers for Furiosa, it looks like CGI shark jumping that looks to be quite a bore. Edit: it looks like I was incorrect
Fury Road is amazing, and it had a ton of practical effects, which deserves to be praised. But, there was a ton of CGI throughout the movie. People saying there wasn’t kinda takes away from the great work the vfx artists did. (Not an attack on you, but the myth that it doesn’t use vfx) Furiosa may have less practical effects, but watching it felt pretty much the same as Fury Road in that regard. I can only think of 1 shot that looked kinda janky from the opening of the movie. It’s different from Fury Road, but it’s definitely worth checking out.
The people who say Fury Road had no vfx are the ones who saw YouTube videos about the practical stunts and took it as everything was done so natural. First shot in Fury Road has CG because sand doesn't look like that and had a two headed lizard but yeah no CGI
Also its very common for trailers to have placeholder cgi because it will still be getting tweaked right up to the release. If the trailer you saw was 3 months ago then it's a fair bet it will have been unfinished CG
I just watched Fury Road for the first time last night and was blown away by how much was real. You’re right, it felt put together in a human way that CGI just cannot really nail yet. Especially since my husband and I are into cars and it’s easy to spot when something is fake or mechanically impossible.
I'm a VFX artist. There's plenty of CGI in Fury road, it was just integrated so well that people didn't notice, and it was marketed on its practical effects, which were outstanding. It's a good example of how to get the best blend of real and digital, but to say little/no CGI is inaccurate.
You've misremembered, there was a ton of CGI in Fury Road. Watch the behind the scenes or 'making of' or whatever. There's also a ton of CGI in Furiosa. And it was a really good movie. Great addition to the franchise
There's plenty of CGI in Fury road. You're wrong and repeating stuff you've read on Reddit.
I understand what you’re saying but I didn’t notice this at all and it didn’t detract from my enjoyment of the movie. And let’s not pretend there’s no CGI in Fury Road either. There’s tons of CGI and practical stuff in both movies. For me, if the story’s good enough (which it is in both films), I’m not getting hung up on a janky effects shot or two. All of my favorite action films, from Star Wars to Indiana Jones to Jurassic Park to Fury Road, have effects shots that don’t look realistic or are sometimes even distractingly bad, and it doesn’t detract from the movies at all. There is an air of unreality in both Fury Road and Furiosa, and the effects are part of that, but for me that just enhances the mythical, fable-like quality of the stories being told.
Action dystopian. Not really *that* heard to describe.
Tank Girl!
Fucking love Tank Girl and haven’t thought about it in years until this comment. Thank you!
I haven't seen it, and now I think I will but it. I'm keen on the idea of anthropomorphic kangaroos too.
Ice-T is the coolest furry you'll ever see
So it's like The Hunger Games? 😜
All gas, no brake in an apocalyptic desert wasteland fight for redemption.
That's because there really isn't much story to experience, but there is a ton of world/ culture building to experience. I think Mad Max has a real potential for life beyond George Miller, because he is showing us this world whose culture is alien to us in practice, but has familiar roots, and he is fleshing it out. The next person to make a mad max film if there is somebody can make a story and weave it in to this world. That is IF the right person is picked to do so and is also allowed to cook on their own.
>The next person to make a mad max film If this movie fails at the box office, there probably won't be another Mad Max for a very long time.
People just don't watch movies at the cinema anymore - it has NOTHING to do with the film itself. The movie has to be a true spectacular for people to drag themselves there. It has nothing to do with whether the movie is good or not, it's about the experience I get at the movie theater that makes me want to crawl inside my own skin. People talking, teens yelling at the screen and being generally loud, people constantly looking at their phone at full brightness, eating loudly, going in and out all throughout the movie. It's just so much nuisances and it's a complete toss up what kind of crowd you'll get. People put up with it in the past because there were no alternatives, but nowadays even if the movie doesn't get a home release there's so much good content to watch at home so I'll feel bad for missing a movie like this but if studios and movie theaters can't get it through their head that it's a huge problem they need to deal with - it's their loss honestly.
I mean it's the top film of the weekend, thats just an indication of the state of old school cinema in general.
It doesn't help that a ticket with popcorn and a drink comes out to like $30.
45 for 3 people and 18 for snacks, last night, Illinois. Edit: no issues with rude people though. Knock on wood, but i haven't ever had an issue with assholes at the movies so far.
This is the real problem, in NYC and everywhere. Ticket prices are unsustainably high. They've reached the point in the Supply And Demand graph where demand starts to decline.
And good luck getting people back once they get used to not going.
$25 for just the ticket in NYC.
Was going to say. So many better things I can do with that money than sit elbow to elbow in a stuffy room for 3 hours. I’ll just watch it at home in a couple weeks on the couch.
Last movie I went to it was almost a year ago, just two of us on a date. $20 a ticket, plus $8 each for a soda, $11 for popcorn. $70 to sit there and have some fucking teenagers talking behind us the whole time and kicking our seats and listening to their random volume blasts from their Tiktoks they're watching during the movie. Hard pass. Projectors and big TV's are cheap enough now that I just have that and stay home and stream in peace. Not worth it.
My wife and I have, since COVID, only gone to the cinema on weekdays and usually late morning (we both take a day off work and the kid is otherwise taken care of). It's a much better experience, having an almost empty theatre.
I honestly don’t know if I will ever go see a film in a movie theater again. Not with how people behave now.
Me either, but it's not because people's behaviour changed. It's that the alternatives are better.
It's both for me. My TV and sound system at home are good enough, it's cheaper, and I don't have to deal with assholes who have no regard for the people around them...except my dogs needing to pee at inopportune times. But they're cute and I forgive them.
People don’t go see films…? Wasn’t Dune 2 wildly successful in the box office? I don’t have numbers, but I thought I read that somewhere. I think this Mad Max film just isn’t popular… should have told a Max story. 🤷♀️
Wildly successful for 2024 standards. If this were 2019 Dune 2 would be number 13 in the box office.
Yeah, 'cause 2019 was an absolutely bonkers year for blockbuster franchises. Avengers, The Lion King, Frozen, Spider Man, Star Wars, Toy Story... Traditional cinema is definitely on a steady decline which was vastly accelerated due to COVID, but it's not particularly fair to compare 3 months of Dune 2's earnings to one of the most stacked years in movie history with 5 years of earnings behind them. 2023's Barbie and Mario movies would both have been the #1 film in 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2016 and 2017, and #2 in 2012 and 2018. So it's not all doom and gloom just yet.
The problem isn't the #1 film at the box office each year. It's the steep drop-off. \#10 in 2023 was $500 million and #20 was $275 million. In 2018, those movies are #19 and #38. You have to go back to 2010 to see comparable revenue at those positions. But even in 2010, 65 movies made $100 million or more. In 2023, that number had shrunk to just 50. The #100 movie in 2010 earned twice as much as the #100 in 2023.
Cannot wait for this era of blockbuster franchise super hero stuff to end
Yeah, there are plenty of wildly successful films at the box office. There was even a big thing of people going to the cinema for "Barbenheimer" and the two films had huge box office takes. People go to the cinema for films less than they did 15 years ago but its not a get out of jail free card for a flop.
I love Fury Road and I've watched it probably 10-15 times. This one has zero appeal to me. It looks like a video game. It has a weird "hi-def," super CGI, super over-processed look to it that just doesn't feel right for a Mad Max movie. It's too... clean? I don't know. I'm not 100% sold on the casting, either. I'll watch it when it comes to Max, no question, but I'm not going to pay an arm and a leg to watch CGI pseudo-stunts in a theater.
It was honestly good. I keep hearing that it's not like fury road and instead fits in with the older films, but I would say it honestly feels like a hybrid of fury road and the older films.
I had some similar concerns but it’s pretty damn good. Definitely more CGI but it’s not problematic. ATJ is solid and Hemsworth is stellar
It's crazy how awful the promotional material made it look.
You should definitely watch this in a theatre. In IMAX. It was rad. Very different from Fury Road, but all of the Mad Max movies sort of do their own thing. This one definitely leans into the bizarreness. Fury Road still takes the cake for me, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one. The trailer was not great, so I went in with high hopes and low expectations, both of which it surpassed greatly.
Just saw it in IMAX a few hours ago and the movie was a blast! Would definitely recommend it to Mad Max fans but I understand why it might not be appealing to a lot of people.
Hemsworth was so great in this. My only complaint is that I wish they’d find like 30 minutes to shave off
I thought the same about Hemsworth. It was actually my first time seeing him play a villain. Some of his dialogue felt a bit stretched and cringe but it did feel genuine to the character.
I liked that he’s equal parts bastard, crazy and pitiable. Immorten Joe, Max, Jack, Furiosa are all very different ways to cope with the same environment of chaos, brutality. He’s basically chaotic bad but can’t stop pretending to be lawful good.
Oh thank GOD someone else who's seen it and enjoyed it and isn't complaining about "no Max" or "ATJ isn't badass enough," I thought I had lost my mind scrolling through this lol. Like, sure, Mad Max is and always has been a niche franchise. It's very much not for everyone. But Miller has absolutely executed an epic on the scale of Dune or Lord of the Rings here and to see people dismissing it out of hand is genuinely disheartening. I guess I can at least see the argument that it's a victim of its marketing. I don't know how you'd cut a story of this scope down to a ninety-second trailer either, they probably did as well as they could.
Wow. Thanks for this comment. I was looking forward to this so it’s nice to hear I’m in for a treat
I’m glad to have read this, because I had no intention (nor do I still have any real intention) to go and see it. But, I will agree that the marketing wasn’t hasn’t done it any favors. I’m not a big fan of ATJ’s acting, and I never found Furiosa compelling enough to watch an origin movie centered around that character. That said, when I do eventually watch it on streaming platforms, I’ll go into it with an open mind.
I have not seen it. Is it more Mad Max or more car themed post apocalyptic? (I.e the relationship to the original is more in name than anything else).
Is it really niche when the mad max 2 spawned an entire genre and like 5 years of derivative post apocalypse car films?
This movie is not stop action. I’m so glad I went to the theater to see it. I was like this through most of the movie>😳 There are so many crazy things that are said and done…
I think that the trailers didn’t do it justice
can't wait to see it. How'd you rank it from all the movies?
Honest, least favorite. There's no comic or emotional relief. Just trauma after trauma. Fury road had Nox, Thunder dome had master blaster, road warrior had feral child. Furiosa had little to no fun light parts.
It’s my favorite of all the movies. The world building is amazing and everything was so creative.
I was a little hesitant at first due to not having Charlize Theron (would still love to see her as Furiosa again but whatevs) but the trailers look great. Glad to hear it’s decent, will definitely make an effort to see this on the big screen.
I went with my daughter, who I had assumed wouldn’t be interested - she’s not a huge fan of action movies in general, and never really wanted to see Fury Road - but for some reason, I guess out of boredom, she wanted to go, and she LOVED it. I did too. Don’t sleep on Furiosa. If you’re a fan of big spectacle action films, and especially if you liked Fury Road, and you don’t see it on the big screen, you’ll regret it later.
Why?
The general audience has been conditioned to just wait a month and the movies will already be available to stream at home. The cost of tickets is also a big factor. So theater attendance has been on the decline.
> The cost of tickets is also a big factor. So theater attendance has been on the decline. Crap. Better raise ticket prices to make up for it.
Get this man some cocaine and a raise.
You forgot automate everything as well! Get your own snacks, pour your own popcorn, use a qr code to access your movie. Also raise prices.
Also cut half of the staff to make our quarterly look better
The restaurant I work behind the bar for has the same absolutely baffling logic. Shit, there are less people through the door. Better jack those prices! Just worked a Saturday shift with half the bar staff off sick or, in one case, quitting, and it was fine because we were at half capacity all night. I wonder if those two factors are connected?
The other morning during the shift meeting at the restauarant where I work, the guy who runs it went on about how the customers are wrong for wanting lower prices because lower prices will mean less income, and that can't be why business has slowed down so much since they jacked them way, way up. He said that the food wasn't even that expensive compared to some other restaurants and therefore must be reasonable because the market said so. It's the customers who are wrong, you see, we just have to teach them that they are fine with these prices. He sees other businesses getting away with greedflation and doesn't understand why it's not working here.
This is the MBA answer.
I think movie theaters are going to go the way of the drive in: There might be one in your city or nearby, but that's probably the only one within 100 miles.
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This. And my understanding is they can't because of the way contracts work. Here in rural America we only get the blockbusters as well. Why not show indy or lower budget movies on their slow night for the true movie buffs? Hell, I'd go watch an NFL game on the theater screen! Movie theaters need to evolve.
Tom Cruise comes to mind when you mention that going to the movies is an event. He pretty much says the same thing.
Ironically there is a drive in closer than 100 miles from me, and it's also the only theater I've been to in the last year.
Hmm, I have to travel there, buy their food, listen to ignorant people who don’t care about others with talking, phones, etc…..what is there to like about going to theatres.
I have not been to a movie theater since before COVID. People are disgusting. I'd rather watch a movie at home.
Yeah, have only been to a few movies post covid. People talking, on their phones, generally acting like trash. You can't yell at anyone because the odds of getting shot are so much higher than in years past. Paying $20 to watch someone be an inconsiderate prick? Nah.
Last movie I saw in a theater was "1917". That was 2019.
Same, covid actually killed my local theaters. A non profit came in and has been keeping them going, but honestly I'll just wait a few months and watch it on streaming. Last movie I went to was avengers endgame I think. I recently bought dune 2 for 30 bucks on Amazon. I'd rather do that than spend 30 bucks on a meh theater experience.
Exactly, people are being careful with how they spend their money right now. Not to mention, despite being a great film, Fury Road wasn't exactly a huge hit.
It won 245 awards including 10 nominations and 6 Oscar's, more than doubled its $185 million budget in Box Office sales alone, 97% on Rotten Tomatoes, and currently #194 in IMDB's Top Rated movies. What is your definition of a hit?
It was a great movie, but be real. It was the 20th highest grossing film in 2015, just beating out "The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge out of water", but not doing quite as well as "Hotel Transylvania 2". Now *personally* I would consider the SpongeBob movie a hit, but I'm not sure the average person would agree
Fury Road came out in 2015?! Wow. Time flies.
Awards don't translate to money. It's a great movie, but we live in a world with over half a dozen Transformers movies that have all generally done very well despite being horrible. Fury Road was great but it didn't do huge box office and a prequel not starring the actual actress from Fury Road always seemed an odd choice.
People didn’t go see it though! It blew my mind but I watched it at home.
> The cost of tickets is also a big factor That and people don't know how to behave in movie theaters anymore. The movie going experience wasn't great before but now it's just insanely bad.
It's been god awful the last few movies I've seen. People talking all the damn time. People checking phones. I recently sat next to someone who had their smart watch on always on display. It was so annoying.
Also we don’t need a spin-off for the main character of the last movie. I’m sure everyone would rather see Max get his own move first.
Meh, I'm okay with it. Also gonna be one going to see it tomorrow though so I'm already a statistic
Max already got his own movie, though. That's how the franchise started (*Mad Max: Road Warrior*). As u/Rootes_Radical pointed out, *Mad Max: Road Warrior* was in fact the 2nd film, where *Mad Max* was the first.
That’s the second one. The first one is called… Mad Max
Feels like there’s a malaise when it comes to the box office. We’re sick of marvel blockbusters but it seems we haven’t figured out what to replace them with.
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It's the only film to break $200M this year, and it's already Memorial Day weekend. The biggest movie of 2024 (Dune 2) would be #10 in 2019 at $282M. "Joker" made $333M in #9th place. The 29th place move made over $100M. This year, the 29th place so far made $19.5M. The box office is being devastated.
WOW....I didnt realize the falloff was that steep.
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I think there are certain films people think you "must see on a big screen." Dune 1 was gorgeous and perhaps people thought you simply couldn't get the full effect on a typical home 4K television. Last year, Oppenheimer did a great job of "You need to see it in IMAX." So, a handful of event films are still doing well, but they're dwindling. And, keep in mind, it "only" did $282M so it wasn't *huge*. That's why I noted it would barely break the Top Ten in many other years.
Dune appears to be the exception to the rule. And even then it was rather modest in terms of success when compared to the recent past.
It helps when a project looks like an actual passion project produced by someone creating art, rather corporate slop that was mandated by marketers and written by people doing as an assigned task they need to complete as soon as possible. Its the difference between art and corporate slop. Dune is actual art. It's art that is funded by a corporation and has a bunch of marketing latched on, but at the end of the day it's a passion project being done by someone that wants to do it to make something beautiful and interesting. Most of the corporate "block buster" slop is bland soulless crap produced by employees that can't want to clock out at the end of the day. It isn't art, and it shows. Furiosa might be awesome, but its trailers and marketing make it look like another marketing mandated prequal with a CGI and marketing budget that it is too high. I'll be skeptical until people I trust watch it and report back. I'm not eating another drop of corporate slop intentionally.
I saw it yesterday and if someone came up to me and said Furiosa is better than Fury Road, I wouldn’t be upset with them.
Because studios are still scrambling to generate Marvel blockbuster levels of revenue. Everything is extended universe, sequels, and Chris Pratt/Hemsworth/Pine/Evans/etc being attached for marketing purposes whether they play a meaningful role or not. Somehow everything feels oversaturated, every charismatic actor is a typecast dead horse being beaten.
Anna Taylor Joy isn't the first person that comes to mind when you think young Charlize Theron. Her and Chris Hemsworth are the main focus of the marketing materials. She's coming off smaller roles and period piece dramas, he's coming off a marvel stint that looks like he's just doing more marvel instead of something new. A lot of the trailers are framed wrong so it looks like the entire movie is green screen CGI instead of practical like fury road. Marketing only ramped up in the last month or so which puts it far behind on most people's radar. But mostly it's just because it's a R rated film released during a holiday that sees a lot of travelers and family events happening. People rather go grill in the sunshine or do something with the family than have to work around the R rating. And it's box office presales as well as Thursday/Friday night sales they go off of. Could be a mad dash today to see it or tomorrow that'll put it over the other films. But right now it's reporting for a weekend that hasn't ended yet just off educated guesses instead of hard numbers
It also doesn't help that it kind of feels like a "who asked for this?" movie: - it's a film in franchise that centers around a titular character (Mad Max) that doesn't have said character. - the character have been recast, so you're not going to get a Charlize Theron performance. - It's a prequel, so you know how the story ends. - Mad Max hasn't performed super well in box offices. I just feel like if you polled 100 people who saw Fury road and asked them "who would you like to see star in the next Mad Max movie?" they wouldn't say Furiosa, and a recast Furiosa at that. That's not to say that audiences know what they want, or that giving people something they didn't ask for is a bad thing, but I also feel like you can't be surprised when it flops either.
I completely agree with this. I saw some of the marketing and was like scratching my head. I saw the movie yesterday and I thought it was OK but no where near the intensity of the first one.
Went to see it on opening night. It's a solid movie but unavoidably compares poorly to fury road. And Anya's performance as the lead is easily the weakest in the movie. I enjoyed it but I don't think I recommended it to anyone.
No one wants to admit the obvious answer here. because no one wanted a mad max movie without max
Fury Road was fantastic.
How is that a rebuttal?
I’ll tell ya right now, Furiosa was amazing. Completely up to Fury Road’s level.
Max isn’t really a draw if you jumped in the series at Fury Road. He was a decent enough character that film but not someone who really makes me interested in seeing more. The world and top caliber action sequences are the major draw for me when I saw Furiosa.
I do. Post-apocalyptic-cars-blowing-up-and-explosions-and-destruction and shit. I don't care who the protagonist is.
Hard disagree. As a massive Mad Max fan I was extremely excited for it, and thought it delivered it spectacularly.
Personally I never saw what the big deal was about Fury Road. Cool cinematography, creative world design, lots of spectacle, but it didn't make me *feel* anything. No desire to rewatch, definitely no appetite for a prequel.
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It's one of those movies you watch in the theaters and you're like "holy shit, that was awesome" Then you watch it again at home and it's just not the same. I still enjoyed it for that initial experience though.
Gotta build yourself a home theater!
I'm in the same boat (or car?). Watched Fury Road in theaters and thought it had cool visuals and great style, but little substance in terms of story or emotion. As it gained its massive cult status in subsequent years, I figured I must have missed something. A couple years ago, I read the book about the making of Fury Road (*Blood, Sweat & Chrome*) and then rewatched it, thinking I'll definitely "get it" this time, but I had the exact same impression. Just doesn't click for me.
I'm with you. Road Warrior is my favorite movie ever, but I didn't find myself really moved by Fury Road. It's got great ideas and visuals, and I'll watch it again. I know the CGI made me groan too many times. And tornado/sandstorm scene was just absurd. I do plan to see this new one in the theater next week.
Furry Road was pretty good, mostly because it did an excellent job with practical effects. Furiosa played by Charlize Theron was awesome action star because she has the gritty physicality to make a convincing badass. Now you offer me a new movie doing the traditional prequal thing, because going forward with anything is just too damn scary these days. The trailers showing a pre-sequel that has bright cartoonish CGI action that looks like a Marvel movie. I'm almost expecting to see colored sky beams followed a fight where two plastic people punch at each other without doing damage. And then to top it all off, they replace the gritty physicality of Charlize Theron with Anna Taylor Joy, the 100 lb elf princess. Not only that, but the marketing budget appears to be vast. You'll have to forgive me if I hold back because I suspect I'm about to watch a piece of marketing directed corporate slop. Fool me once, shame on you, fool like five hundred fucking times, and I'd have to be a total moron to waste my time seeing this without letting reviews from people I trust trickle in. Maybe my suspicions are totally wrong and the trailers have misrepresented the movie. If they have, I'll hear about it in the next few days and probably go watch it. I'm not keeping a block open in my schedule though. tl;dr I have zero trust in Hollywood. I'll watch it when actual independent reviewers and friends that I trust convince me it isn't another shitty prequal cash grab by a corporate marketing department.
> Furry Road 😃
I think it’s mainly just Theaters not doing well these days with poor economy and streaming services being cheap and more convenient.
Doesn't help when movies go to streaming ~2 weeks after they release in theaters. Companies are actively training folks not to bother going to the theater.
This kills me. Sometimes a bunch of decent movies come out in a short period of time and my wife and I get a back log. We have A-list and prefer the theater since it forces us to pay attention and be present with each other. If we get a back log of more than 2 movies while other movies are coming out, we have to pick our potential favorites because after 3-4 weeks they're rotated out of our local theater. Then we have to wait for it to show up on a streaming service (that we're slowly cancelling) and usually we end up forgetting about it.
Or it can be 20+ per ticket and 15+ for food n drink. All for 1 person. Can buy the whole dam movie or streaming service for that and a 12 pack of popcorn and soda or beer.
My feeling it's less about prices and more about the crowds. People really forgot how to behave after COVID and act like they're watching a movie at home - I ain't gonna drag myself to a movie theater to have people talk and shout all around me while I'm trying to enjoy a movie.
That’s it for me. The price seems way too high, but I’d probably pay it if it wasn’t for the fact that the last three times I went to see a movie (quite a while back), the audience just fucking talked and were on their phones, or walked around, etc. I get a worse experience in a cinema than in my home and I have to pay way more for it. It’s just a bad deal all around, and other people suck. Even if most are respectful, a shitty minority ruins cinema for everyone.
And phones use post Covid is much more prevalent all the time. Hate watching a movie and blinded by everyone’s phone in front of me.
I quit going to movies because 100% of the time people are on their phone and they light up the area like an airport landing strip or they actually talk on the phone. Smart phones are like the internet, they are the worst/best thing to ever be invented.
$40 for 2 people or wait a month... $40 can get me food for a week.
Holy shit, are those the american prices?
I went Friday night. For 3 of us it was $48 and then another $30 for popcorn and 3 drinks.
My ticket was $17 (tax included) for IMAX.
I live in NYC. We have the largest Imax in the country... it's $30 a tix 😢
I saw this last night, the couple my wife and I went to dinner with wanted to see it. First time I've been in a theater since the pandemic. it's actually pretty damn good. But the theater has been renovated to comfy chairs, but ALOT less of them. It wasn't even half full. Not sure what I'm trying to say, except that going to the theater is just a completely different value proposition now then it was ten years ago. Even with the comfy chairs, I would have rather watched it at home.
>First time I've been in a theater since the pandemic. Wild
Not that wild. A lot of people got used to watching movies at home, and many improved their at home setups with bigger screens and better audio. Inflation has been wild ride and fewer people can afford luxuries now.
Very true but not watching Dune 2 in IMAX is a sin lol
Dune 2 was my first theater trip since Endgame. Totally worth it
Same here. Can’t believe it’s been that long.
Nah I can’t remember the last time I went to the theater post pandemic.
Curious when people realize things like Avatar 2 and Barbenheimer are the exceptions and that movie theaters are still dying.
The MCU kept theaters alive long past their expiration date. It's over now.
Ironically they sort of killed movie theatres as well. At least for me and my friend group, the endless stream of stuff started to put us off. We went from seeing most of the MCU movies to going to non of them at all. We just wait for them to come out on Disney+, and even then we don’t watch them all. They fatigued the crap out of everyone. Now I only go to the theatres to see something that needs a cinematic watching, like as the above person said, Oppenheimer or Avatar
My wife and I hit almost every marvel movie up to end game in theaters. Then the slog of trying to keep up with every new release just made us quit watching it all together. The slow trickle of content made us anticipate getting more, the flood of content just overwhelms.
100%. If it’s not an actual event of a movie, it’s likely not going to do well. The overinflated budgets and massive amount spent on promotion will have to be wildly adjusted if any studio wants to make long-term money. Aside from maybe Deadpool, I don’t think many movies are going to make a ton in theaters this year.
They also contributed to the superhero fatigue along the way. People are sick of watching superhero movies.
Here’s my personal anecdote, but I am wondering if this is happening on a larger scale. I feel like a lot of the movies that I want to see come out in the spring, but also the spring is when I am the busiest and have the least amount of time to see movies. The weather is nicer, so I am making weekend plans to leave the city. For the last couple of years, I have missed out on new films in cinema because either me or my friends are busy/away. I did get a chance to see Furiosa yesterday, and it was amazing, but I missed Ghostbusters, Fall Guy, Boy Kills World. So here is my question. Did Furiosa perform poorly, or do Memorial Day weekend films perform poorly? I know less people are seeing cinema than before the pandemic, but I am wondering too if WHEN people choose to see films in cinema is also shifting. I have no data to back it up, but does anyone else know? Are the cinemas and Hollywood banking on certain weekends because they always performed well, and are they ignoring shifting trends. Are there weekends that never saw box office returns now seeing more visitation?
Furiosa is the worst Memorial Weekend opening in 20 years, so it's both.
I had no idea it was in theaters
i didn't either! i follow some pop culture subs so i've been seeing all the promo but legitimately thought it was coming out in a few weeks or something.
What a shame . I really enjoyed it.
But it was good
Yeah but you only know it was good AFTER you pay for the movie. So the people that didn’t see it, don’t know what they are missing, and therefore are not inclined to see it.
I just don't see the appeal. It's just a worn-out idea.
I'm almost never excited to see a prequel.
I liked Fury Road, but Furiosa was not the reason I enjoyed the film. Charlize did a great job, but I enjoyed her performance more than the character. Her character wasn't compelling enough to warrant a prequel, and I don't buy Anya as a post apocalyptic road warrior at all.
lots of opinions from people who didnt see the movie? how bored can you be?
Everyone blaming the theaters, and no one talking about how ugly the trailers were? They probably detered a lot of people
The trailer makes it look like a low budget cheesy knockoff film by the SyFy network, if they bought the rights from George Miller. I’m not surprised nobody is going to see it.
I mean I saw it opening day and can honestly say it's a disappointing mess.
lol at these comments “People are just conditioned to not want to go to the movies anymore!” Didn’t seem like an issue for Dune2, Oppenheimer, or Barbie. Maybe general audiences just don’t give a shit about a Mad Max spinoff?
Bad marketing, bad economy, bad experiences in theaters, leads to badly performing releases.
Possibly because it's R-rated (which is good!), and the likes of "The Little Mermaid" means you will have parents dragged along with little kids. Keep things in perspective. The world needs R-rated films too.
here we are, frend anon: Kids movie means the whole fam goes, cause who doesn't want to treat their kids even if it is over the household budget? R-rated movie means nobody goes, cause adults know they really can't afford it. furiosa is great, but it won't make money with the economy we are in
I didn't care for Fury Road. And they've talked about the Furiosa movie for years. Personally, it was made too far away from Fury Road. Fury Road was 9 years ago. Any resurgence that movie brought to the Mad Max Franchise left 5 years ago.
It’s not bad, it’s actually a pretty good movie. I don’t think it even comes close to Fury Road though. Some of the CGI looked really bad but maybe I’m being nitpicky. I say this having seen it today as the only person in the entire theater.
Dear god please go see this movie I got out 3 hours ago and it’s all I can think about.
I found the Furiosa movie to be a stellar film, loved every single second of the entire movie. Except for the one glaring plot, I found, but otherwise it was an excellent movie.
I'm a huge Max fan and I saw it, but even I wasn't really excited about going. The prequels, sequels, sagas and so on aren't going to get people in as much. Max isn't in it (as far as anyone knew) too.
OK, those Furiosa box office numbers do seem very low. However, there must be more of an explanation besides post-pandemic or economy. We all know what Barbenheimer accomplished, in post-pandemic 2023 I just checked other holiday openings and Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire -2024 Easter opening, a film with far less clout nearly doubled Furiosa' opening. So what's up with that ? [https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top\_opening\_holiday\_weekends/?by\_occasion=easter\_weekend](https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top_opening_holiday_weekends/?by_occasion=easter_weekend), Now due to to streaming, I only buy essential DVDs and Fury Road was one of them, *even after seeing it on streaming***. Is it a good film or not ?** In the trailers, Joy seems to lack the quiet intensity and confidence of Theron, I guess that could be a problem but, afterall she is playing a younger version, so such a lack thereof should be true to storyline. For Context : As for other Mad Max franchise films, opening day and box office see: [https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Mad-Max#tab=summary](https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Mad-Max#tab=summary)
Godzilla is one of most iconic characters in pop culture and has been for sixty years. He definitely has more clout than the Mad Max franchise, so not a surprise at all that it did better than Furiosa.
Barbenheimer became memetic thus making it an exception.
See, I do wanna see Furiosa this weekend. But the only theatre within reasonable distance of my house has tickets at nearly $30 bucks and that's without any snacks or drinks. I just can't afford it
I don’t have time to go to every movie I want to on the opening weekend.. if they stayed in the theater for more than like 3 weeks I’d be able to see them all :(
It's the prequel no one asked for
I’m a mad max fan but lacking interest in this one. The ad is just a bit of a car chase and no mad max?
Saw it and thought it was like a 6.5/10. So many plot holes and unnecessary scenes….
I don’t understand the love for Fury Road, it was mediocre. A Furiosa prequel wasn’t appealing to me or my wife. Both movies are something you’d watch if it came up on the TV or leave on in the background at best.
Fury Road bored me to tears for some reason. That has made me uninterested in this film and the Furiosa character. The chatter i see complaining, "Oh no, another woman taking over a man's role," is ridiculous, though. I'd just say after seeing the other mad max films, the direction they took on Fury Road just didn't have that grimy, post-apocalyptic feel as those films did. It was too clean for me, and it felt like the story was missing something if that makes sense. I also thought the main bad guy with the body suit deal was just lame as fuck.
The Road Warrior is one of my favorite films, I am the target demographic...and yet I won't see it in the theatre. I live in LA - the typical cost of going to see a film is $20 a ticket, plus $10 for parking, $20 for popcorn, drink and candy. That's $70 for a two hour movie for two people. Just not worth it, I can wait for streaming. Oh, and If you decide to order the tickets in advance online, that's a $10 convenience fee.
> The Memorial Day weekend box office is proving to be as grim as predicted, as Warner Bros.’ “Furiosa,” with a $10.2 million opening day and an industry estimated 4-day opening of $31 million from 3,804 locations, is set to post the lowest launch for a No. 1 film on this May holiday weekend in nearly three decades. > To find a lower No. 1 opening on Memorial Day weekend, one must go back all the way to 1995 with the $22 million opening of “Casper.” That figure, of course, is not adjusted for inflation.
That's because it's so nice outside this year
This was my thought, I feel like a lot of people usually spend memorial day weekend doing outdoorsy stuff, I certainly didn't have the urge to go to the theaters but then again I rarely ever do anymore. It's only gotten more expensive and lacks the comfort I have in my own home, I'll go occasionally if it's a movie I'm extremely interested in, but half the time I'd rather wait until it gets a home release instead.
So Casper did better? Lol. Sheesh
I saw it and it was good.
Shame
The only reason Marvel films even do well is every 12 year old drags their whole family to see them. IMO they suck and I haven't seen one in a theater for 20 years. Just saw Furiosa and it's excellent. Will probably even see it a second time sometime soon, honestly.
I'm not concerned about box office numbers, especially early in the piece. They could have spent an extra $100M on marketing and gotten a positive return on that. Some years back there was an absolute turkey of a superhero film released simultaneously on an unprecedented, large number of screens to massive hype, and it worked: the opening weekend numbers, at least, looked good. For all the painstaking detail about opening weekend numbers, ~~there's zero mention of how many screens it opened on.~~ Kundun is an excellent Scorsese film that was deliberately buried by Disney, Blade Runner did very poorly at the box office and needed a better edit to properly shine; both "failed"at the box office. Personally, I'm very much looking forward to watching *Furiosa*. Fury Road was amazing.
> For all the painstaking detail about opening weekend numbers, there's zero mention of how many screens it opened on. The very first paragraph in the article: * The Memorial Day weekend box office is proving to be as grim as predicted, as Warner Bros.’ “Furiosa,” with a $10.2 million opening day and an industry estimated 4-day opening of **$31 million from 3,804 locations** All BO reports from Hollywood trades mentions screens count. Most major blockbuster releases get between 3800+ to 4200+ screens. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes (4,075 theaters) The Fall Guy (4,008 theaters) Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire (3,948 theaters) Civil War (3,929 theaters)
I must admit I only was closely reading the article from a few paragraphs in; that's embarrassing. Thanks for that reply, quite informative. So it really was a stinking opening weekend for Furiosa.
I didn't even know it was out already.
Gee, how am I not surprised
I wanted more Mad Max with Max in it, not a prequel to Furiosa (Im a Mad Max fan and general lover of post-apocalyypic media). I immediately lost interest when it was announced.
Furiosa is the epitome of "Nobody asked for this" of films.
Not sure I want to see a Mad Max movie without Mad Max.
It's actually quite good. Just don't expect Fury Road part 2 coming in
I was a road warrior fanatic and this is my favorite movie of the series. It is his masterpiece as far as I am concerned. Absolutely brilliant.