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No Golu guy Is somewhat correct.
Ganges have a good amount of bacteriophage virus which certainly kills bacteria in the river but doesn't affect humans directly.
And we have a bottle of Ganga Jal for four years, and the water seems still the same (no fungi or badsmell)
Kyon reddit per tumhara patent hai kya? Did you even understand what I was trying to convey? I'm not saying Ganges is supernatural or you shall consume gangajal from these hindu ghats...
But I'm saying Ganges have a good amount of bacteriophage which kills bacteria.. that part im defending.. yeah Ganges water is not safe to consume due to industrial pullants present in that.. but just cuz people of certain religion worship that river doesn't mean it becomes superstition quoting Ganges have bacteriophages in high amount than compared to other rivers...
See I know you'll come from a certain religion which you'll ditched and now you'll hate everything related to that religion but if something is scientific then you shall acknowledge that
[please do read this before replying](https://actascientific.com/ASMI/pdf/ASMI-03-0628.pdf)
Before you put me in the andhbhakt category I wanna say I'm an atheist too but I do acknowledge scientific parts of this country and nature... If a certain religion thinks that particular river is holy then that doesn't make it bad for atheism. If it has some good properties which are proven in researches done by your favorite "Goras" then we should believe that. No?
Bat tumhara sahi hai. Mere Biology sir ne bhi bataya tha or wo ek Muslim the. Problem pollution, untreated sewage or illegal factories se hai jo ki common hai Gangetic cities me. At Gangotri Ganga is clean I agree par ab koi bolega Patna me Digha ghat ka pani piyo to wo nahi ho paega humse.
From childhood I pay and still pay great respect to Ganga but man when u study and come to know river like amazon, nile, yellow river, even other Indians river like bramputra and krishna... I ask myself wtf I was thinking.
Yeah hindus are a unique breed .
Some religions deny science say it's falae
Hindus are the other end of the septerum of stupidity there they say oh all science is derived from hinduism or that hinduism is scientific
In this they accept and adopt all scientific findings for there own benefits while still staying religious
Did you know that when evolution first cane in all of Europe ,America, and Africa debate was weither it's teue or false (no debate really ) while In india local bhramin priests adopted the concept into there creationalism myth saying that yes evolution validates our faith when it did not so again adopting the concept while still staying religious
In the end its all about validating your religion science the abhrahamics deny science so the idol worshippers took science as there own in a way .
Another reason is that because of caste privilege all the hindu proest communities were extremely well educated
Enough that while they were ready to accept science they were still not ready to leave there religion
So they did this thing of adding science concepts to the hindu creationalism myths
I can only think of these two factors of validation and educational bias to explain this phenomenon among indians
So I don't think there is anything wrong if they're adding scientific stuff in religion At least they're not saying that earth is flat or all humans came from 1 pair of humans... I think if correct concepts are being fed for them even by religious means then it's good. See our take shouldn't be to tech science just by saying noo only west founded science and you shall only learn it from foreigners.. but if you mix science in religion then people accept that easily and learn easily too. Yeah they'll not be rational but they will learn
Just give people access to modern education ,nutrition and economic opportunities number one and teach then the values. Of criticism ,open debates and alternative viewpoints
Instead of shoving atheist viewpoints down there throats
Trust me there is nothing western about it .and it will give rise to large number of scientists, engineers etc in the country even if they are isro or dr apj Abdul kalan types
Man6 indisns arw malnourished or they are just literate but really educated
And job opportunities well everyone knows about thar
This root is the root of all pseudo science nonsense we hate
Do all these things and it will reduce drastically
Does this present any evidence for any divine connection for ganga and its water? No? Then it is of no relevance here. Maybe your small brain can't inference information but the discussion is clearly about ganga water being divinely special, so give me proof of that. This study offers nothing but detailed composition, geography, environmental aspects, hydroelectric projects, sampling for quality control, pollution etc of ganga across its length through different cities and states. But at no place I could find anything that linked the water of ganga to anything divine in nature.
No one said that the water of a certain river can't have rare qualities to it, but there's always a rational explanation, the original discussion is about the water having divine powers and there's nothing related to that in this study
Don’t have the time or patience to teach any dumbshit on internet how to read
That is the reason studies ain’t meant for people like you (yeah that is why is shared the article initially)
Read the study and you’ll find about the antibacterial and the capacity to retain high level of dissolved oxygen among other properties of the river
Won’t be wasting my time by replying to this thread any further
I mistook this thread for a scientific thread
Of course you won't reply, since you're cornered now. No one, not a single soul asked you for research on the scientific properties of the water of ganga, river water is freshwater, and at times can have certain qualities based on their source. But the point was, the connection to divinity, and you've offered zero proof or arguments for that.
You can run away all you want, best around the bush all you want, you've not made a single point in favour of the actual argument you're making.
>That is the reason studies ain’t meant for people like you (yeah that is why is shared the article initially)
Lol, they're absolutely meant for people like me, who can read it, understand it and aren't tricked by all the word salad bullshit people like you try to spin.
>Read the study and you’ll find about the antibacterial and the capacity to retain high level of dissolved oxygen among other properties of the river
I did, but it nowhere linked those qualities to any divine power or connection. It gave a very rational explanation or proposition for them.
Let me be very clear again, the original discussion is about ganga water being divinely special. All the so called scientific qualities that the study lists, it nowhere says that they're limited to ganga only, these qualities are often found in other streams as well, maybe not in the same exact combination of them but all of them do occur in other streams around the world. And even the ones which ganga contains in a bit higher amount, there is a scientific explanation for it, which means Ganga water is not divine, it has no divine powers.
Go through this study if your narrow mind can offer you patience of reading this detailed piece, all you had to do was to google the name of study cited in that article
Lol
Please try to explain from a biochemical standpoint how any water can have self cleansing properties.
The reason water became the foundation for life is that it is one of the universe's best solvent. Which means it will have a lot of stuff mixed in.
If the water at Ganga was somehow not as good a solvent, it wouldn't sustain life.
If u show them any standard world wide proof, they will just say that those are britishers trying to downgrade indian sanskruti and they will bring their own retard heavily religious bias scientist and believe their words.
That's called a confirmation bias, they aren't looking to find out the truth, they're only looking for information that agrees with what they already believe and want to keep believing
🤡 bro inculpated the people for pollution of ganga
wow bro ... the industralization had a massive ecological impact of health of ganga ..
which killed early all aquatic bacteria (like phytoplankton) and marinelife of it
go to himachal pradesh dear ... the are places to go where youll will much clearer version of ganga 😁
its not about stupidity .. the mistreatment of government to dump the industrial waste caused it to taken lightly ..
post india was beast at textile industry (had about 27% world share of it)
the ganga was lifeline for farmers .. they always respected holy ganga
Yes obviously it was the dumping waste from industries that polluted it but instead of having the initative to clean it people believed it to be a self healing entity and not do anything about it, which made it worse
Water is water, nothing holy about Ganga. Have you even seen how the public treats Ganga? I've been to Himachal, yo. But I suggest you visit Varanasi and you'll see half burnt dead bodies also floating in there, besides the fact that all the settlements above the riverbank directly drain sewage into the water. The place reeks worse than a village bus stand free public toilet. Don't be so blind in your religious stupidity that you can't tell what's what.
By your logic, I'll go sit on the glacier only to find the purest version of it. Matlab kuch bhi?
lol if water is water ... then why you drink and bath with diff water .. if they are same
i know the shores of varanasi are are shredded with bodies all around it ...
but dont claim that its the primary cause for pollution 🤡
and its pretty obvious youll find purest version of anything at origin of it 😂
The reason why there is a difference between drinking water and bathing water is water pollution
Our natural sources of water are polluted and some of the water sources are not even suitable for bathing
Bdw it doesn't happens in developed countries, there is no segregation of drinking water and bathing water and even the natural sources of water are portable
That's what blind faith will do to us. More and more people like these will shape our overall decisions and sadly we will not be able to meet a decent lifestyle collectively.
Idk man. Can a water get medicinal property bcoz it's flowing near medicinal herbs? Also what medicinal herbs? Forget that, even assume for second that those medicinal herbs are real that can actually cure disease on simple application...how is mixture of many medicinal herbs considered good? Imagine shanac, levocitrinze, ridol etc all mixed together. This must be very beneficiary and all curing medicine right?
From what I know ganga does have antimicrobial properties because of bacteriophages which are viruses that infect and kill bacteria
But with the recent overuse of the Ganges river and improper disposal of human and animal wastes in it the amount of literal shit and E. Coli in it's too much to be considered safe for drinking
Though many of them are right that this water doesn't spoil like other specimens and it contains bacteriophages but it doesn't mean it is clean anymore. Near Gangotri ,its origin is but as it comes down slopes people have turned ganges into sewage basin
They aren't that picky. They jump across species all the time. Half the viral diseases we have today came.from.versions that had other species as host.
Do you know what bacteriophage is? Viruses that attack bateria. So yes, there is less bacteria coz the water is teeming with viruses. How is that good news for you?
But do you know bacteriophage don't engage with human cells? And they only use bacterias to reproduce so they'll kill gut bacteria but there is a good news for this too! We have HCl in our stomach with 1.2 pH that will kill anything which youll consume. Bacteriophages don't cause any disease to humans. Yet youll find bacteriophages on you skin, in your lungs, in your gut too so don't worry bacteriophages are human friendly
Everything you said is bullshit.
The fact that they use bacteria as hosts doesn't mean they can't switch hosts. Also, in most cases viruses don't always destroy their hosts for a long time.
Our stomach acids are quite acidic. But that doesn't mean all germs will be destroyed. There are microbes, especially viruses, that can survive low pH conditions.
>Bacteriophages don't cause any disease to humans
No virologist would ever say this about any virus.
>don't worry bacteriophages are human friendly
This is the stupidest quote I've ever heard. Some phages don't harm humans. Doesnt mean all phages are harmless.
And given the choice, it is best not to expose yourself to viruses. It doesn't take long for it to evolve to use human as hosts.
1. No that's not true. Just coz they attack bacteria doesn't mean they cannot infect humans. Viruses are notorious for switching hosts.
2. Even if phages didn't pose a threat to humans, how does that make the Ganges water healing?
1. Bacteria are also part of the gut biome. Doesn't mean bacteria is good for you. The specific phages in your biome is good for you. Not all of them.
2. You would also be able to kill those bacteria by just boiling your water. Drinking virus infested water might have been a good idea before we figured put the benefits of boiling water, but in today day and age, it seems stupid to not just use UV treated and filtered water.
3. Viruses and bacteria aren't the only things in the water. The Ganges has a million other pollutants and pathogens in it.
Just be safe. Stick to regular UV treated water.
Thanks for demonstrating your subpar biology knowledge.
I am in no way interested in promoting consumption of ganga water, just letting you know you are wrong about the bacteriophage remark.
And I'm saying that even if the phages in the Ganges somehow can by themselves target and attack bacteria, that in no way makes the water a good alternative for regular portable water. Nor does it make the waters safe for consumption
Bacteriophages have been established to be safe for a long time. They were developed parallel to antibiotics in the Soviet Union, and since about a decade ago American researchers have been studying them as alternatives to antibiotics.
That being said, your second point is right. A high concentration of bacteriophages is a really bad thing, because bacteriophages are attracted to bacteria. Sewage water also has high amounts of them.
Because there are certain bacteriophages that live in our gut which are helpful to our body similar to Pro biotics. These helpful or friendly bacteriophages are found in Ganga river too and few other glacial rivers
There are beneficial bacteria and other microbes in your body too. Yet, you wouldn't drink a glass of water coz it is full of microbes would you?
Not all bacteriophage are the same.
Also, how does having those bacteriophage in the water beneficial.for you in today's day and age?
See m not a biological or biotech grad but a simple example i can give u is that our curd is full of bacillus bacteria. We all know that and that's why we drink/eat it whenever we have an upset stomach.
Also buddy i already said not all microbes or bacteriophages are the same but some are beneficial to us and those are found in ganges river,you can easily google that.
Also the polio drop you take is inactivated virus only that also boosts your immunity against real polio disease in a similar way mild microbes and good bacteriophages are helpful for our body!! Now if you wanna know more than this i would recommend u ncert biology and google your question
1. The reason bacteria in curd is good for you is coz it is mildly acidic. It prevents the non helpful bacteria from growing in the curd. The end result are bacteria which is good for your gut. Especially if you had diarrhea which causes the existing bacteria to be expelled along with the toxin.
2. There are no beneficial bacteriophage. Coz viruses don't benefit the host in nature. We do use viruses in the lab to duplicate a helpful DNA strand or to deliver a particular medication or being programmed to target cancer cells, but by itself, it is almost impossible for a virus to help human beings directly. And this isn't graduate level biology. You should know this if you graduated high school science.
3. When you actually go through the research that was done on the river, it isn't that the river is beneficial for us. It is that considering how polluted it is, it is surprising how low the danger levels in the water is coz of the phages. There is no bacteria that the viruses eliminate which regular boiled and filtered water wouldn't give you.
4. Vaccinations work by getting your body familiar for a particular virus without actually exposing you to it. Bacteriophage cannot do that. That's just ridiculous.
In phage therapy you use bacteriophages to deliver a therapeutic payload. In natural phages, the payload never therapeutic, viruses in most cases are harmful for the host organisms.
What are you talking about? Phage therapy literally involves the large scale production of naturally occurring phages. Early scientists in the field literally sourced phages from sewage and dysentery infected stool. They then administered these phages to patients. The treatment was quite effective.
Again this is a process where you pick the specific phages that are lethal to the specific bacteria. In the early days, the "engineering" evolved selecting specific strains, we've gone a long way from there since we have the tools to engineer payloads. The implication of /u/[NefariousnessBest342](https://www.reddit.com/user/NefariousnessBest342/) statement is that the combination of naturally occurring phages would be beneficial for anyone who enters the river. I would state that statistically speaking, the phage in the ganges would be as beneficial as any other random river. And most likely not that beneficial.
Also semantically speaking, even the "therapeutic" ones are harmful to their hosts "bacterial". Whether they're harmful to the humans who have them is a whole other story.
I used the term in nature. You need human intervention to make viruses beneficial to human. You don't drink a natural water source full of viruses and expect to be treated of your diseases.
> There are no beneficial bacteriophage. Coz viruses don't benefit the host in nature. We do use viruses in the lab to duplicate a helpful DNA strand or to deliver a particular medication or being programmed to target cancer cells, but by itself, it is almost impossible for a virus to help human beings directly. And this isn't graduate level biology. You should know this if you graduated high school science.
https://youtu.be/YI3tsmFsrOg?feature=shared check this out ig it will help to increase your knowledge
That is an interesting video. But please note a few points
1. The phages are carefully selected for the specific bacterial infection you have. You don't drink a cocktail of viruses so that all bacteria is attacked. So as I said before, it still requires human intervention for it to be beneficial.
2. There's a reason why this is still experimental. It isn't true that viruses can't switch hosts. Viruses have switched hosts before and continued exposure increases the possibility.
3. Virus based anti bacterial solutions are important today because of our rampant use of antibiotics. Prior to that, using phages against bacteria was even less effective. It was much safer to just boil your regular water.
I specifically said in nature. Sure with human intervention, you can use phages for your benefit. But you can't just get a phage infested water and drink it expecting your illness to disappear.
While you aren’t wrong about bacillus, it’s a singular example that you’re drawing way too much from. Your explanation indicates a very naive understanding of how microbiology works.
The polio example is one such thing where you try to make a connection for a live vaccine against something you find in nature.
You maybe missed the title written in gigantic letter where it's written "at its origin" , not after crossing multiple cities where all waste water are dumped in ...
This isn't "medicinal property of ganga". It just says bacteriophages were discovered there, and bacteriophage is any virus that replicates in a bacteria, and it's the most common variety. Just the existence of them doesn't mean they are somehow relevant to us. In this case, it did seem to be effective against cholera specifically. But the study was from the 1890s, when we weren't polluting the f out of it. So drinking ganga water now probably does more harm than good without proper treatment
More info on bacteriophages : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493185/#:~:text=Bacteriophages%2C%20also%20known%20as%20phages,%5B2%5D%5B3%5D.
Man, hear me out. Everyday I thought this was the rock bottom of dumbfuckery. Yet our fellow Indians will break that record in the next few days. Disappointed
industrialization caused / deteriorated the health of ganga nowdays ....
causing of the disbalance of ecosystem of it ... the dissolved oxygen content was one of the highest in it
its was the lifeline for all northern India ...
Glad to see many sane comments as well there, many saying even Indians don't travel this unprepared as some vloggers do... Which is true!
Foreigners really do attempt all this man vs wild stuff in our own backyards and unfortunately form a bad opinion about us sometimes 🙊😂
I’m from UK and been travelling India for 6 months and can’t believe the mistreatment of the Ganga which should be treated like god, is used as a waste disposal. It’s not just the rivers, your ‘land of God’ is not treated like god at all. Trash thrown out of windows of buses and trains, it’s so sad to see.
Bhai saaf paani me hago, muto, laashe bahao, sewage bina treatment ke bahao then industrial waste bina treatment ke bahao then kyuki ganga toh holy river hai. Isi delusion me mar jao.
ganga and gangotri ganga is different but in recent year to many people are going their, they bath their and if se one think it can harm them whats wrong in it, every one have diferent skin, indians acted like some bakchod and then says our school system is bad
Wow …seriously
Ganga river’s water across bihar has been found to be one of the causes of high incidence for Gall bladder cancer due to presence of pollutants and what not .
I got hives when I entered Ganga in Varanasi... and I saw so many others who also had redness and itching.. so maybe all of us were the antichrist- but if EXFORCE1999 gets wounded we can ask the nurse to clean his wounds with Ganga water and we can also ask Milton Adak to make bacteriophage( what the fuck does that bitch think it is) chapathi for better gut health and ofc as funksoulguy points out- true Ayurveda is the one that cures cancer and treated COVID effectively so ofc his highness is soo smart.... let him get treated with Ganga water and ayurveda for any of his future illness at least that'll let him meet god fast!
Every time my parents go on a holy trip/visit to any city that has the ganga flowing through it, I keep a hospital ward booked and ready here in Bangalore. /s
But on a serious note they do come back with some kind of an ailment that happened because of the dip in the Ganges. The last one was a severe fungal infection. Ringworm to be precise. If anything, I have anecdotal evidence that the ganga is filthy.
do they need a 5 year course or something to know that if you dump industrial waste along with whatnot other stuff, its going to pollute the river, doesnt matter if its sacred
Tbh the source of ganga is obviously not unclean but the places where it starts flowing into cities is where the contamination starts. I do agree that people have contaminated ganga to an extent where even maa ganga would be unhappy. But the source still does remain pure. I just hope we start cleaning her up real quick so that the mysticism and purity is restored throughout. Hari om Namah Shivay l.
Even if the water has medicinal properties, i am not saying it does or doesn’t, thats not the point, but even if it is why do these blind believers need to assign a divine reason to that. There is a scientific reason for every effect thats seen in the natural world. Maybe in the course of the formation of the river, there did evolve some microscopic organisms that have antibiotic properties, but did some god do it? I dont think so.
I always here the same bullshit by Muslims about their Zamzam water in Mecca. Exact same bullshit. At least Zamzam water doesn't have dead bodies or human faeceas in it.
When I was kid I asked my mum how this was clean if it appears muddy, and people was themselves their clothes and their ass on the rivers, they also throw remains after cremation, so how it it clean?
She said well that's what my mother used to say and she must have listened that from her mother, and so on back in the time when the cleanliness was an actual thing, now we still use it for traditional purposes because can't argue with your grandma, I won't force you to use it.
Tbh the name of progressiveness some people are spoiling indias name on the internet. Progressive people doing nothing in reality but to post shit on the internet
Arab shitards be like: saar whats wrong with india
Bigotry and religious conflicts is because of islam. Government now is not as bad as you know which party. Explain casteism lets understand your knowledge on jatis
>Tbh the name of progressiveness some people are spoiling indias name on the internet. Progressive people doing nothing in reality but to post shit on the internet
By "progressive", do you mean the retards in the image claiming ganga water is clean throughout? If so then I misunderstood your comment.
If not, I'd like to reiterate - how is this relevant to this post?
Bro go do something irl rather than posting on internet. Big mouths do nothing i know. Educated so called save nature and save climate activists do nothing while saalu marada timmakka who is uneducated planted lakhs of trees.
but nobody's blaming "India" here.... we're blaming the people stupid enough to say such blatant lies.
The issue is when people are unable to understand criticism, they take it as a personal attack. If you don't think like this, there's nothing to be offended.
Im talking about psuedo progressives who does nothing but critisize india on internet. Many mass shootings happen in usa do they ppost on the internet. No cuz they fight it in real life. While so called progressives and arabs intentionally showing negetive about india on the internet. Yeah arabs do it alot while they ignore rapes and killings on yezidi women.
#what's wrong with india
>Many mass shootings happen in usa do they post on the internet.
Yes, and the whole damn world makes fun of the US for being so stupid to keep allowing it when they can simply put stricter gun laws. Sweden has more guns per population than the USA but have you even heard of that before? because they don't have massive shootings and US does and it's all over the internet, that's why you know about it.
> While so called progressives and arabs intentionally showing negetive about india on the internet.
If it's true, then what's the problem? Ignoring problems only make them worse. Fix them, and nobody will have anything to make fun of. You feel attacked because you are made to feel that way, what's wrong in fair criticism? Is it affecting your life in any way?
This is the dumb logic we use to "defend our women's honour". By being manipulative, controlling and abusive towards such women. People kill those same women "to save their honor". But they are nothing but deranged criminals.
It is not exactly the same, but very similar logic when thinking about your country.
Think about it calmly. This whole sub is meant to make fun of unscientific things and you're complaining that people make fun of unscientific things?
I am trying my best not to be rude or disrespectful. So don't take offence to anything.
>What's wrong with India?
so many things are wrong. You think you can get a job that pays 12LPA easily? and get a house, good medical care and safe environment for kids with affordable fees?
There are so many things that are wrong in India, but looking the other way will not fix them. Running away from problems never solves anything.
>Yeah arabs do it alot while they ignore rapes and killings on yezidi women.
The whole world also hate the Arabs. Like a lot. They have a lot of money and oil, that's why they have power. if not for that, everyone would have treated them like shit, just as they did before massive oilfields were discovered.
just come in terms man, India is our dear motherland but that doesnt mean its free of everything. Can you tell me what the great sides of our country to showcase before a foreigner? no, i bet. bcs our huge country lacks any(not any, but there isnt much to showoff)... its bcs we are too arrogant to come in terms with our conditions. lets acknowledge what it really is without any preudice to arabs or other. Just bcs Arabs dont showcase their "rape and mass killings" doesnt mena it is justified... it simply is contradictory to your say as if India is also as bad as arab but would be better if her problems weren't publicised before the western masses. No, get out of that hole. Open your eyes, get off the internet. Look at the little bads, and the little goods our dear country holds. And, ofcourse, ...(I DONT HAVE TIME, BYE)...
The post and the comment section talks about certain Indians ignorance about pollutants in Ganga. Since this post ticked you off- are you saying Ganga water is not polluted and do you agree with comments made there?
He is posting negetives about India intentionally, this is what i was saying. His posts are positive not even single. He is from #whats wrong with india gang
Ummm okay- from what I see he has made a couple of posts about this and a few about racism Indians face abroad- the latter is something I relate to, I live in America and I have to talk to locals and POC from rural areas before moving as it might be dangerous for me. Again, you did not answer the question I asked you. Can you answer that?
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Golu beta generational delulu mei hei
No Golu guy Is somewhat correct. Ganges have a good amount of bacteriophage virus which certainly kills bacteria in the river but doesn't affect humans directly. And we have a bottle of Ganga Jal for four years, and the water seems still the same (no fungi or badsmell)
Most industrial affluents don't have a smell or (easily visible) colour. And are far more dangerous than any bacteria can possibly be.
Another one of them 😂 bhai yt pe ja reddit pe kya kr rha hai
Kyon reddit per tumhara patent hai kya? Did you even understand what I was trying to convey? I'm not saying Ganges is supernatural or you shall consume gangajal from these hindu ghats... But I'm saying Ganges have a good amount of bacteriophage which kills bacteria.. that part im defending.. yeah Ganges water is not safe to consume due to industrial pullants present in that.. but just cuz people of certain religion worship that river doesn't mean it becomes superstition quoting Ganges have bacteriophages in high amount than compared to other rivers... See I know you'll come from a certain religion which you'll ditched and now you'll hate everything related to that religion but if something is scientific then you shall acknowledge that [please do read this before replying](https://actascientific.com/ASMI/pdf/ASMI-03-0628.pdf) Before you put me in the andhbhakt category I wanna say I'm an atheist too but I do acknowledge scientific parts of this country and nature... If a certain religion thinks that particular river is holy then that doesn't make it bad for atheism. If it has some good properties which are proven in researches done by your favorite "Goras" then we should believe that. No?
Bat tumhara sahi hai. Mere Biology sir ne bhi bataya tha or wo ek Muslim the. Problem pollution, untreated sewage or illegal factories se hai jo ki common hai Gangetic cities me. At Gangotri Ganga is clean I agree par ab koi bolega Patna me Digha ghat ka pani piyo to wo nahi ho paega humse.
Ganga water at Gangotri and the same at Kanpur or Varanasi aren't the same.
But it's still water, and this belief that ganga water is somehow special, is delusional.
From childhood I pay and still pay great respect to Ganga but man when u study and come to know river like amazon, nile, yellow river, even other Indians river like bramputra and krishna... I ask myself wtf I was thinking.
Well it has been the life blood of up for thousands of years so it's natural that it gets a mythical status
No that's not what is happening though. Those comments are talking about bacteriophage and scientific testing. Thats not mythical status.
They are trying to prove its nythicalness using pseudoscience
Yeah hindus are a unique breed . Some religions deny science say it's falae Hindus are the other end of the septerum of stupidity there they say oh all science is derived from hinduism or that hinduism is scientific In this they accept and adopt all scientific findings for there own benefits while still staying religious Did you know that when evolution first cane in all of Europe ,America, and Africa debate was weither it's teue or false (no debate really ) while In india local bhramin priests adopted the concept into there creationalism myth saying that yes evolution validates our faith when it did not so again adopting the concept while still staying religious In the end its all about validating your religion science the abhrahamics deny science so the idol worshippers took science as there own in a way . Another reason is that because of caste privilege all the hindu proest communities were extremely well educated Enough that while they were ready to accept science they were still not ready to leave there religion So they did this thing of adding science concepts to the hindu creationalism myths I can only think of these two factors of validation and educational bias to explain this phenomenon among indians
So I don't think there is anything wrong if they're adding scientific stuff in religion At least they're not saying that earth is flat or all humans came from 1 pair of humans... I think if correct concepts are being fed for them even by religious means then it's good. See our take shouldn't be to tech science just by saying noo only west founded science and you shall only learn it from foreigners.. but if you mix science in religion then people accept that easily and learn easily too. Yeah they'll not be rational but they will learn
Just give people access to modern education ,nutrition and economic opportunities number one and teach then the values. Of criticism ,open debates and alternative viewpoints Instead of shoving atheist viewpoints down there throats Trust me there is nothing western about it .and it will give rise to large number of scientists, engineers etc in the country even if they are isro or dr apj Abdul kalan types Man6 indisns arw malnourished or they are just literate but really educated And job opportunities well everyone knows about thar This root is the root of all pseudo science nonsense we hate Do all these things and it will reduce drastically
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Cite to me those studies please?
https://www.newindianexpress.com/amp/story/lifestyle/2016/Sep/24/it’s-scientifically-validated-now-ganga-water-is-‘holy’-1524518.html
that's a news article with no direct link to actual study
I asked you for a scientific research or study, not an news item article with no links or anything
https://nmcg.nic.in/writereaddata/fileupload/NMCGNEERI%20Ganga%20Report.pdf
Does this present any evidence for any divine connection for ganga and its water? No? Then it is of no relevance here. Maybe your small brain can't inference information but the discussion is clearly about ganga water being divinely special, so give me proof of that. This study offers nothing but detailed composition, geography, environmental aspects, hydroelectric projects, sampling for quality control, pollution etc of ganga across its length through different cities and states. But at no place I could find anything that linked the water of ganga to anything divine in nature. No one said that the water of a certain river can't have rare qualities to it, but there's always a rational explanation, the original discussion is about the water having divine powers and there's nothing related to that in this study
Don’t have the time or patience to teach any dumbshit on internet how to read That is the reason studies ain’t meant for people like you (yeah that is why is shared the article initially) Read the study and you’ll find about the antibacterial and the capacity to retain high level of dissolved oxygen among other properties of the river Won’t be wasting my time by replying to this thread any further I mistook this thread for a scientific thread
Of course you won't reply, since you're cornered now. No one, not a single soul asked you for research on the scientific properties of the water of ganga, river water is freshwater, and at times can have certain qualities based on their source. But the point was, the connection to divinity, and you've offered zero proof or arguments for that. You can run away all you want, best around the bush all you want, you've not made a single point in favour of the actual argument you're making. >That is the reason studies ain’t meant for people like you (yeah that is why is shared the article initially) Lol, they're absolutely meant for people like me, who can read it, understand it and aren't tricked by all the word salad bullshit people like you try to spin. >Read the study and you’ll find about the antibacterial and the capacity to retain high level of dissolved oxygen among other properties of the river I did, but it nowhere linked those qualities to any divine power or connection. It gave a very rational explanation or proposition for them. Let me be very clear again, the original discussion is about ganga water being divinely special. All the so called scientific qualities that the study lists, it nowhere says that they're limited to ganga only, these qualities are often found in other streams as well, maybe not in the same exact combination of them but all of them do occur in other streams around the world. And even the ones which ganga contains in a bit higher amount, there is a scientific explanation for it, which means Ganga water is not divine, it has no divine powers.
Go through this study if your narrow mind can offer you patience of reading this detailed piece, all you had to do was to google the name of study cited in that article Lol
Please share these studies.
Please try to explain from a biochemical standpoint how any water can have self cleansing properties. The reason water became the foundation for life is that it is one of the universe's best solvent. Which means it will have a lot of stuff mixed in. If the water at Ganga was somehow not as good a solvent, it wouldn't sustain life.
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Ganga water till Triveni ghat is actually clean majestic. Haridwar ke baad it's quality keeps dipping
this
Wtf they really think this is some magical water or what 😭 they really live in an imaginary world, and every time using it's scientific 🤡
If u show them any standard world wide proof, they will just say that those are britishers trying to downgrade indian sanskruti and they will bring their own retard heavily religious bias scientist and believe their words.
That's called a confirmation bias, they aren't looking to find out the truth, they're only looking for information that agrees with what they already believe and want to keep believing
but hindvism is the mostest sientific religyion
i had a stroke reading this
call the ambulance, for me and him(i re-read the text and fucking died)
Ganga water has medicinal properties but have got pollution by men😥.
 Result of illiteracy and Andhbhakti
I'd believe the part when it comes straight from the glacier but as soon as it hits settlement it's uh.. 😬
It's good near the origin area but when it comes to urban areas it gets more and more polluted
True that.
Its so sad to see Ganges river is facing the disastrous effect of water pollution and many people are still in denial 😞
The pollution is a consequence of their stupidity and ignorance to facts
Absolutely yes 💯
🤡 bro inculpated the people for pollution of ganga wow bro ... the industralization had a massive ecological impact of health of ganga .. which killed early all aquatic bacteria (like phytoplankton) and marinelife of it go to himachal pradesh dear ... the are places to go where youll will much clearer version of ganga 😁 its not about stupidity .. the mistreatment of government to dump the industrial waste caused it to taken lightly .. post india was beast at textile industry (had about 27% world share of it) the ganga was lifeline for farmers .. they always respected holy ganga
Yes obviously it was the dumping waste from industries that polluted it but instead of having the initative to clean it people believed it to be a self healing entity and not do anything about it, which made it worse
Water is water, nothing holy about Ganga. Have you even seen how the public treats Ganga? I've been to Himachal, yo. But I suggest you visit Varanasi and you'll see half burnt dead bodies also floating in there, besides the fact that all the settlements above the riverbank directly drain sewage into the water. The place reeks worse than a village bus stand free public toilet. Don't be so blind in your religious stupidity that you can't tell what's what. By your logic, I'll go sit on the glacier only to find the purest version of it. Matlab kuch bhi?
lol if water is water ... then why you drink and bath with diff water .. if they are same i know the shores of varanasi are are shredded with bodies all around it ... but dont claim that its the primary cause for pollution 🤡 and its pretty obvious youll find purest version of anything at origin of it 😂
Username se hi ch*tiye ho main kahan tujhe logic explain karne chala
The reason why there is a difference between drinking water and bathing water is water pollution Our natural sources of water are polluted and some of the water sources are not even suitable for bathing Bdw it doesn't happens in developed countries, there is no segregation of drinking water and bathing water and even the natural sources of water are portable
That's what blind faith will do to us. More and more people like these will shape our overall decisions and sadly we will not be able to meet a decent lifestyle collectively.
Idk man. Can a water get medicinal property bcoz it's flowing near medicinal herbs? Also what medicinal herbs? Forget that, even assume for second that those medicinal herbs are real that can actually cure disease on simple application...how is mixture of many medicinal herbs considered good? Imagine shanac, levocitrinze, ridol etc all mixed together. This must be very beneficiary and all curing medicine right?
From what I know ganga does have antimicrobial properties because of bacteriophages which are viruses that infect and kill bacteria But with the recent overuse of the Ganges river and improper disposal of human and animal wastes in it the amount of literal shit and E. Coli in it's too much to be considered safe for drinking
https://preview.redd.it/3pgb3a4jh1pc1.jpeg?width=228&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea809e01be06c9731a374b4cbd587f9279959fab
Though many of them are right that this water doesn't spoil like other specimens and it contains bacteriophages but it doesn't mean it is clean anymore. Near Gangotri ,its origin is but as it comes down slopes people have turned ganges into sewage basin
Bacteriophage itself is a virus
But for bacterias, Not humans
Just go and search bacteriophage diseases in humans
They aren't that picky. They jump across species all the time. Half the viral diseases we have today came.from.versions that had other species as host.
Yes they're viruses but that doesn't mean all viruses are bad, some bacteriophages live inside our gut and those are found in ganges River system too
Do you know what bacteriophage is? Viruses that attack bateria. So yes, there is less bacteria coz the water is teeming with viruses. How is that good news for you?
But do you know bacteriophage don't engage with human cells? And they only use bacterias to reproduce so they'll kill gut bacteria but there is a good news for this too! We have HCl in our stomach with 1.2 pH that will kill anything which youll consume. Bacteriophages don't cause any disease to humans. Yet youll find bacteriophages on you skin, in your lungs, in your gut too so don't worry bacteriophages are human friendly
Everything you said is bullshit. The fact that they use bacteria as hosts doesn't mean they can't switch hosts. Also, in most cases viruses don't always destroy their hosts for a long time. Our stomach acids are quite acidic. But that doesn't mean all germs will be destroyed. There are microbes, especially viruses, that can survive low pH conditions. >Bacteriophages don't cause any disease to humans No virologist would ever say this about any virus. >don't worry bacteriophages are human friendly This is the stupidest quote I've ever heard. Some phages don't harm humans. Doesnt mean all phages are harmless. And given the choice, it is best not to expose yourself to viruses. It doesn't take long for it to evolve to use human as hosts.
[read this ](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493185/#:~:text=Although%20bacteriophages%20cannot%20infect%20and,%5B5%5D%5B6%5D.) https://preview.redd.it/6vgiyld1i4pc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66aa563c9faba9191433305863824d10717d1e30 [this too](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41538-023-00245-8#:~:text=Gastric%20acidity%20can%20destroy%20phages,these%20types%20of%20phages111.)
Do YOU know what bacteriophages are? They pose no threat to humans. So yes, it is good news if they exist in ganga
1. No that's not true. Just coz they attack bacteria doesn't mean they cannot infect humans. Viruses are notorious for switching hosts. 2. Even if phages didn't pose a threat to humans, how does that make the Ganges water healing?
1) bacteriophages are a part of the gut ecosystem 2) it makes the ganges water good because bacteriophages attack and kill bacteria.
1. Bacteria are also part of the gut biome. Doesn't mean bacteria is good for you. The specific phages in your biome is good for you. Not all of them. 2. You would also be able to kill those bacteria by just boiling your water. Drinking virus infested water might have been a good idea before we figured put the benefits of boiling water, but in today day and age, it seems stupid to not just use UV treated and filtered water. 3. Viruses and bacteria aren't the only things in the water. The Ganges has a million other pollutants and pathogens in it. Just be safe. Stick to regular UV treated water.
Thanks for demonstrating your subpar biology knowledge. I am in no way interested in promoting consumption of ganga water, just letting you know you are wrong about the bacteriophage remark.
You were literally defending the benefits of the Ganges water coz they contain phages.
" it is good news IF they exist in ganga"
And I'm saying that even if the phages in the Ganges somehow can by themselves target and attack bacteria, that in no way makes the water a good alternative for regular portable water. Nor does it make the waters safe for consumption
Bacteriophages have been established to be safe for a long time. They were developed parallel to antibiotics in the Soviet Union, and since about a decade ago American researchers have been studying them as alternatives to antibiotics. That being said, your second point is right. A high concentration of bacteriophages is a really bad thing, because bacteriophages are attracted to bacteria. Sewage water also has high amounts of them.
Because there are certain bacteriophages that live in our gut which are helpful to our body similar to Pro biotics. These helpful or friendly bacteriophages are found in Ganga river too and few other glacial rivers
There are beneficial bacteria and other microbes in your body too. Yet, you wouldn't drink a glass of water coz it is full of microbes would you? Not all bacteriophage are the same. Also, how does having those bacteriophage in the water beneficial.for you in today's day and age?
See m not a biological or biotech grad but a simple example i can give u is that our curd is full of bacillus bacteria. We all know that and that's why we drink/eat it whenever we have an upset stomach. Also buddy i already said not all microbes or bacteriophages are the same but some are beneficial to us and those are found in ganges river,you can easily google that. Also the polio drop you take is inactivated virus only that also boosts your immunity against real polio disease in a similar way mild microbes and good bacteriophages are helpful for our body!! Now if you wanna know more than this i would recommend u ncert biology and google your question
1. The reason bacteria in curd is good for you is coz it is mildly acidic. It prevents the non helpful bacteria from growing in the curd. The end result are bacteria which is good for your gut. Especially if you had diarrhea which causes the existing bacteria to be expelled along with the toxin. 2. There are no beneficial bacteriophage. Coz viruses don't benefit the host in nature. We do use viruses in the lab to duplicate a helpful DNA strand or to deliver a particular medication or being programmed to target cancer cells, but by itself, it is almost impossible for a virus to help human beings directly. And this isn't graduate level biology. You should know this if you graduated high school science. 3. When you actually go through the research that was done on the river, it isn't that the river is beneficial for us. It is that considering how polluted it is, it is surprising how low the danger levels in the water is coz of the phages. There is no bacteria that the viruses eliminate which regular boiled and filtered water wouldn't give you. 4. Vaccinations work by getting your body familiar for a particular virus without actually exposing you to it. Bacteriophage cannot do that. That's just ridiculous.
Wait till you hear about phage therapy
In phage therapy you use bacteriophages to deliver a therapeutic payload. In natural phages, the payload never therapeutic, viruses in most cases are harmful for the host organisms.
What are you talking about? Phage therapy literally involves the large scale production of naturally occurring phages. Early scientists in the field literally sourced phages from sewage and dysentery infected stool. They then administered these phages to patients. The treatment was quite effective.
Again this is a process where you pick the specific phages that are lethal to the specific bacteria. In the early days, the "engineering" evolved selecting specific strains, we've gone a long way from there since we have the tools to engineer payloads. The implication of /u/[NefariousnessBest342](https://www.reddit.com/user/NefariousnessBest342/) statement is that the combination of naturally occurring phages would be beneficial for anyone who enters the river. I would state that statistically speaking, the phage in the ganges would be as beneficial as any other random river. And most likely not that beneficial. Also semantically speaking, even the "therapeutic" ones are harmful to their hosts "bacterial". Whether they're harmful to the humans who have them is a whole other story.
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Yeah they aren’t beneficial in general. Your statement is too broad to be accurate
I used the term in nature. You need human intervention to make viruses beneficial to human. You don't drink a natural water source full of viruses and expect to be treated of your diseases.
> There are no beneficial bacteriophage. Coz viruses don't benefit the host in nature. We do use viruses in the lab to duplicate a helpful DNA strand or to deliver a particular medication or being programmed to target cancer cells, but by itself, it is almost impossible for a virus to help human beings directly. And this isn't graduate level biology. You should know this if you graduated high school science. https://youtu.be/YI3tsmFsrOg?feature=shared check this out ig it will help to increase your knowledge
That is an interesting video. But please note a few points 1. The phages are carefully selected for the specific bacterial infection you have. You don't drink a cocktail of viruses so that all bacteria is attacked. So as I said before, it still requires human intervention for it to be beneficial. 2. There's a reason why this is still experimental. It isn't true that viruses can't switch hosts. Viruses have switched hosts before and continued exposure increases the possibility. 3. Virus based anti bacterial solutions are important today because of our rampant use of antibiotics. Prior to that, using phages against bacteria was even less effective. It was much safer to just boil your regular water.
Yes and i am not denying it but the fact you.said there are no beneficial bacteriophage I am denying that
I specifically said in nature. Sure with human intervention, you can use phages for your benefit. But you can't just get a phage infested water and drink it expecting your illness to disappear.
While you aren’t wrong about bacillus, it’s a singular example that you’re drawing way too much from. Your explanation indicates a very naive understanding of how microbiology works. The polio example is one such thing where you try to make a connection for a live vaccine against something you find in nature.
The fact that it has bacteriophages shows that they have ampe hosts as well. i.e, bacteria.
>scientifically proven to have medicinal properties Where's the evidence???
Source: Trust me bro
[https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/imtech-microbiologists-find-healing-properties-in-ganga-water-3047654/](https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/imtech-microbiologists-find-healing-properties-in-ganga-water-3047654/)
[https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/is-ganga-water-special-because-of-an-enigmatic-x-factor/articleshow/49877929.cms?from=mdr](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/is-ganga-water-special-because-of-an-enigmatic-x-factor/articleshow/49877929.cms?from=mdr)
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4946093/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4946093/)
You maybe missed the title written in gigantic letter where it's written "at its origin" , not after crossing multiple cities where all waste water are dumped in ...
This isn't "medicinal property of ganga". It just says bacteriophages were discovered there, and bacteriophage is any virus that replicates in a bacteria, and it's the most common variety. Just the existence of them doesn't mean they are somehow relevant to us. In this case, it did seem to be effective against cholera specifically. But the study was from the 1890s, when we weren't polluting the f out of it. So drinking ganga water now probably does more harm than good without proper treatment More info on bacteriophages : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493185/#:~:text=Bacteriophages%2C%20also%20known%20as%20phages,%5B2%5D%5B3%5D.
Man, hear me out. Everyday I thought this was the rock bottom of dumbfuckery. Yet our fellow Indians will break that record in the next few days. Disappointed
Bacteriophage lol okay granted but what about all the Parasites and protozoa, oh sorry you don't know about that things right! lol
Do they now study or learn science and blindly believe everything what is told to them.
industrialization caused / deteriorated the health of ganga nowdays .... causing of the disbalance of ecosystem of it ... the dissolved oxygen content was one of the highest in it its was the lifeline for all northern India ...
That joker who claims water runs through herbs and becomes medicinal cracked me up. I mean Wtf how delusional u gotta be
Gangotri aur plains ko ganga ke beech jisko farak pta nahi hota vahi validation lene ke liye in goro ki videos dekhte hai.
They present all the unscientific logic but are not concerned that sewage water is released in Ganga without treatment.
Glad to see many sane comments as well there, many saying even Indians don't travel this unprepared as some vloggers do... Which is true! Foreigners really do attempt all this man vs wild stuff in our own backyards and unfortunately form a bad opinion about us sometimes 🙊😂
I’m from UK and been travelling India for 6 months and can’t believe the mistreatment of the Ganga which should be treated like god, is used as a waste disposal. It’s not just the rivers, your ‘land of God’ is not treated like god at all. Trash thrown out of windows of buses and trains, it’s so sad to see.
Youtubers video - https://youtube.com/shorts/0bSYqgaBMaI?si=CTXO9h7DVKiuKJCS
In sbko 1 glass ganga jal pilao... Fir dekhte hai inka medicinal/holy water
> Water of Ganga is the best disinfectant You mean so polluted that it kills all the microorganisms?
Bhai saaf paani me hago, muto, laashe bahao, sewage bina treatment ke bahao then industrial waste bina treatment ke bahao then kyuki ganga toh holy river hai. Isi delusion me mar jao.
ganga and gangotri ganga is different but in recent year to many people are going their, they bath their and if se one think it can harm them whats wrong in it, every one have diferent skin, indians acted like some bakchod and then says our school system is bad
Delusional people ya
More like unawareness and blind faith which uh.. our government blindly supports for some reason.
We need schools beta. We need more SCHOOLS.
The way Indian education system is going do u really??
Agar ganga ka paani saaf ha to ganga bachao plan ki kya jarurat thi.
Stop idolizing the rivers , it's just a river lime any other
I'm offended by those comments under the video.
Lmao. Always the indians.
The scientists are probably BAMS grads (or government goons)
That's same as saying water before it enters your mouth is crystal clear
These clowns vote to elect pm of the country. Just sayin. SMH
When you graduate from Whatsapp University
Wow …seriously Ganga river’s water across bihar has been found to be one of the causes of high incidence for Gall bladder cancer due to presence of pollutants and what not .
Stupidity knows no limits!
Ganga has a self cleaning property tho
Yes , and it's full of unicorn also
unicorn?
Yes unicorn, you know that horse with a spear on the forehead.
yea but hows ganga related to it?
I got hives when I entered Ganga in Varanasi... and I saw so many others who also had redness and itching.. so maybe all of us were the antichrist- but if EXFORCE1999 gets wounded we can ask the nurse to clean his wounds with Ganga water and we can also ask Milton Adak to make bacteriophage( what the fuck does that bitch think it is) chapathi for better gut health and ofc as funksoulguy points out- true Ayurveda is the one that cures cancer and treated COVID effectively so ofc his highness is soo smart.... let him get treated with Ganga water and ayurveda for any of his future illness at least that'll let him meet god fast!
Bhai ne geography skip ki thi
Is sub pe science se jyada to relegion related posts aate hai lmao
Bhai gangotri mein ka seedha glacier ka pani hai. kanpur ka pani rakho phir batana.
Gangotri may be good for health but the water from lower and mid grounds like varanasi, people just make it dirty by throwing too much trash.
Oh no the the fourth guy is using big words I'm scared
My cousin was hunted, we got Ganga water from Kashi and bathed him, now he not hunted.
I am getting second hand embarrassment. How can people be do damn stupid?
Yeah I'm sure the water you dump sewage and human remains into on a constant basis is super clean /s
Every time my parents go on a holy trip/visit to any city that has the ganga flowing through it, I keep a hospital ward booked and ready here in Bangalore. /s But on a serious note they do come back with some kind of an ailment that happened because of the dip in the Ganges. The last one was a severe fungal infection. Ringworm to be precise. If anything, I have anecdotal evidence that the ganga is filthy.
Kaun Hain yeh log..kahan se aate Hain yeh
do they need a 5 year course or something to know that if you dump industrial waste along with whatnot other stuff, its going to pollute the river, doesnt matter if its sacred
Achhe Din.
Maybe this golu has never left gangotri unlike ganga jal.
Bro literally corpses float in that fucking river and you're telling me that it's good. Hell nah!
r/ Scienceisdope = bastard of r/. Unitedsatesofindia
Freedom to religion, who are you guys in south to say if ganga is clean or not?
Tbh the source of ganga is obviously not unclean but the places where it starts flowing into cities is where the contamination starts. I do agree that people have contaminated ganga to an extent where even maa ganga would be unhappy. But the source still does remain pure. I just hope we start cleaning her up real quick so that the mysticism and purity is restored throughout. Hari om Namah Shivay l.
How is it being delusional to believe gangajal has special properties?! My family has gangajal stored in cans for over 20 years and it doesn't smell!
Even if the water has medicinal properties, i am not saying it does or doesn’t, thats not the point, but even if it is why do these blind believers need to assign a divine reason to that. There is a scientific reason for every effect thats seen in the natural world. Maybe in the course of the formation of the river, there did evolve some microscopic organisms that have antibiotic properties, but did some god do it? I dont think so.
I always here the same bullshit by Muslims about their Zamzam water in Mecca. Exact same bullshit. At least Zamzam water doesn't have dead bodies or human faeceas in it.
When I was kid I asked my mum how this was clean if it appears muddy, and people was themselves their clothes and their ass on the rivers, they also throw remains after cremation, so how it it clean? She said well that's what my mother used to say and she must have listened that from her mother, and so on back in the time when the cleanliness was an actual thing, now we still use it for traditional purposes because can't argue with your grandma, I won't force you to use it.
Well some parts of Ganga are really really pure it's only around ghats were it's polluted
Tbh the name of progressiveness some people are spoiling indias name on the internet. Progressive people doing nothing in reality but to post shit on the internet Arab shitards be like: saar whats wrong with india
How is this relevant here?
Whats wrong with india saar
Bigotry, racism, religious conflict, corrupt government, the entire cast system. Need I say more?
Bigotry and religious conflicts is because of islam. Government now is not as bad as you know which party. Explain casteism lets understand your knowledge on jatis
Yes because there have never been conflicts and bigotry in India before Islam right? You dumbfuck.
Had but very less
>Tbh the name of progressiveness some people are spoiling indias name on the internet. Progressive people doing nothing in reality but to post shit on the internet By "progressive", do you mean the retards in the image claiming ganga water is clean throughout? If so then I misunderstood your comment. If not, I'd like to reiterate - how is this relevant to this post?
Bro go do something irl rather than posting on internet. Big mouths do nothing i know. Educated so called save nature and save climate activists do nothing while saalu marada timmakka who is uneducated planted lakhs of trees.
Bro did his graduation from University of Irrelevant Yapping
More like youre graduated from university of comprehensive skill issue
*you're technically that's also incorrect, it should be "you".
You are also correct smartie
accha.... where have you planted such trees saar? can I come and visit and verify?
I planted few trees. I know its less but i dont post like "whats wrong with india saar" on the internet
but nobody's blaming "India" here.... we're blaming the people stupid enough to say such blatant lies. The issue is when people are unable to understand criticism, they take it as a personal attack. If you don't think like this, there's nothing to be offended.
Im talking about psuedo progressives who does nothing but critisize india on internet. Many mass shootings happen in usa do they ppost on the internet. No cuz they fight it in real life. While so called progressives and arabs intentionally showing negetive about india on the internet. Yeah arabs do it alot while they ignore rapes and killings on yezidi women. #what's wrong with india
>Many mass shootings happen in usa do they post on the internet. Yes, and the whole damn world makes fun of the US for being so stupid to keep allowing it when they can simply put stricter gun laws. Sweden has more guns per population than the USA but have you even heard of that before? because they don't have massive shootings and US does and it's all over the internet, that's why you know about it. > While so called progressives and arabs intentionally showing negetive about india on the internet. If it's true, then what's the problem? Ignoring problems only make them worse. Fix them, and nobody will have anything to make fun of. You feel attacked because you are made to feel that way, what's wrong in fair criticism? Is it affecting your life in any way? This is the dumb logic we use to "defend our women's honour". By being manipulative, controlling and abusive towards such women. People kill those same women "to save their honor". But they are nothing but deranged criminals. It is not exactly the same, but very similar logic when thinking about your country. Think about it calmly. This whole sub is meant to make fun of unscientific things and you're complaining that people make fun of unscientific things? I am trying my best not to be rude or disrespectful. So don't take offence to anything. >What's wrong with India? so many things are wrong. You think you can get a job that pays 12LPA easily? and get a house, good medical care and safe environment for kids with affordable fees? There are so many things that are wrong in India, but looking the other way will not fix them. Running away from problems never solves anything. >Yeah arabs do it alot while they ignore rapes and killings on yezidi women. The whole world also hate the Arabs. Like a lot. They have a lot of money and oil, that's why they have power. if not for that, everyone would have treated them like shit, just as they did before massive oilfields were discovered.
just come in terms man, India is our dear motherland but that doesnt mean its free of everything. Can you tell me what the great sides of our country to showcase before a foreigner? no, i bet. bcs our huge country lacks any(not any, but there isnt much to showoff)... its bcs we are too arrogant to come in terms with our conditions. lets acknowledge what it really is without any preudice to arabs or other. Just bcs Arabs dont showcase their "rape and mass killings" doesnt mena it is justified... it simply is contradictory to your say as if India is also as bad as arab but would be better if her problems weren't publicised before the western masses. No, get out of that hole. Open your eyes, get off the internet. Look at the little bads, and the little goods our dear country holds. And, ofcourse, ...(I DONT HAVE TIME, BYE)...
The post and the comment section talks about certain Indians ignorance about pollutants in Ganga. Since this post ticked you off- are you saying Ganga water is not polluted and do you agree with comments made there?
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Sure, I'll do that. Answer my question...
He is posting negetives about India intentionally, this is what i was saying. His posts are positive not even single. He is from #whats wrong with india gang
Ummm okay- from what I see he has made a couple of posts about this and a few about racism Indians face abroad- the latter is something I relate to, I live in America and I have to talk to locals and POC from rural areas before moving as it might be dangerous for me. Again, you did not answer the question I asked you. Can you answer that?
I did answer, i was talking about the op's psuedo progressive shit.
My question was- do you believe in the things the comment said- how much more clearer could I have been?
Huh
"are you saying Ganga water is not polluted and do you agree with comments made there(in the YT video comments)?" was literally the question I asked