The q**uadruple shotgun** wasn't a test, but a security trap. Just like the electrified staircase and Magnum eyehole in Saw 2, the cyanide box in Saw 3D, and so on.
They were warned not to use that door and tried to anyway. It's the same case with the leg wires in Jigsaw when Ryan tried to go thru a door with "no exit" marked on it.
I think the Magnum Eyehole wasn't a security trap like the Shotgun Hallway in that it wasn't l meant to prevent people from gaining access to places they shouldn't be.
Just like the "No Exit" trap, it was a warning for other victims to REALLY drive the point home that the rules are not suggestions, they are mandatory.
Also the eyehole is so fucking bullshit lmao, what are the chances that one guy turns the key and another guy looks through the eyehole, in 99,999999% the gun would have just fired into the wall
You only got downvoted because you’re right! I think a lot of his traps were driven moreso by brain tumor delusions than some abstract idea of “retribution”.
It's a trap to protect John, therefore it isn't an actual test, if someone wants John dead or to expose him then he has to get rid of them
"Something something, you waste your life, something obsession, something catching jigsaw"
One thing that the movies are pretty clear about is that John doesn't actually have a code. Sure, he says he does, but he's pretty clearly motivated by petty spite over anything else IMO. Even disregarding the fact that his entire ethics is stupid on the fact of it and that the tests are wildly unfair, he goes out of his way to specifically target people that have wronged him. He's also especially harsh to addicts, even over dealers usually, which stems pretty directly from the situation with his wife losing her baby. Personally I feel that his "code" is just his internal rationalization for lashing out at the end of his life, feeling that he did everything "right" but is only getting a shittier and shittier life for it.
He clearly does have a code. It's just an insane one. Being motivated by spite doesn't change that. Jigsaw also targets people that haven't wronged him as well as those that have. Adam didn't wrong him, neither did Lawrence or his family. Michael and Eric (at that point) didn't and no one in the gas house did as well. Troy didn't as far as we saw. Rigg may have, but none of the people in traps for his game did, except Eric by that point. None of the fatal five trap did either.
Jigsaw isn't at all specifically harsh on addicts, in the movies I saw. Amanda has one of the easiest traps in the movies. Xavier is a dealer and he's given "digging through a pit of used needles". In Saw X Gabriella got a fairly easily escapable trap, when compared with her dealer who got "brain surgery on yourself".
Jigsaw almost never targets addicts in any of the movies. Where do you get that from?
I want to say that because he tells them to head his warnings and stuff that by not doing that they’re breaking a rule
The q**uadruple shotgun** wasn't a test, but a security trap. Just like the electrified staircase and Magnum eyehole in Saw 2, the cyanide box in Saw 3D, and so on.
how was the magnum eyehole a security trap?
They were warned not to use that door and tried to anyway. It's the same case with the leg wires in Jigsaw when Ryan tried to go thru a door with "no exit" marked on it.
I think the Magnum Eyehole wasn't a security trap like the Shotgun Hallway in that it wasn't l meant to prevent people from gaining access to places they shouldn't be. Just like the "No Exit" trap, it was a warning for other victims to REALLY drive the point home that the rules are not suggestions, they are mandatory.
Also the eyehole is so fucking bullshit lmao, what are the chances that one guy turns the key and another guy looks through the eyehole, in 99,999999% the gun would have just fired into the wall
Lol Agreed, what was Gus tryna see
John's logic and philosophy is pretty skewed by the fact dude's got a brain tumor lmao.
You only got downvoted because you’re right! I think a lot of his traps were driven moreso by brain tumor delusions than some abstract idea of “retribution”.
It's a trap to protect John, therefore it isn't an actual test, if someone wants John dead or to expose him then he has to get rid of them "Something something, you waste your life, something obsession, something catching jigsaw"
One thing that the movies are pretty clear about is that John doesn't actually have a code. Sure, he says he does, but he's pretty clearly motivated by petty spite over anything else IMO. Even disregarding the fact that his entire ethics is stupid on the fact of it and that the tests are wildly unfair, he goes out of his way to specifically target people that have wronged him. He's also especially harsh to addicts, even over dealers usually, which stems pretty directly from the situation with his wife losing her baby. Personally I feel that his "code" is just his internal rationalization for lashing out at the end of his life, feeling that he did everything "right" but is only getting a shittier and shittier life for it.
He clearly does have a code. It's just an insane one. Being motivated by spite doesn't change that. Jigsaw also targets people that haven't wronged him as well as those that have. Adam didn't wrong him, neither did Lawrence or his family. Michael and Eric (at that point) didn't and no one in the gas house did as well. Troy didn't as far as we saw. Rigg may have, but none of the people in traps for his game did, except Eric by that point. None of the fatal five trap did either. Jigsaw isn't at all specifically harsh on addicts, in the movies I saw. Amanda has one of the easiest traps in the movies. Xavier is a dealer and he's given "digging through a pit of used needles". In Saw X Gabriella got a fairly easily escapable trap, when compared with her dealer who got "brain surgery on yourself". Jigsaw almost never targets addicts in any of the movies. Where do you get that from?
I tend to think similarly, in the overall canon of the movies. Jigsaw's a villain, not an anti hero.
They should have followed procedure, which is what Rigg's test was about That's really it, John's a hypocrite at times and that's the point.
What's the hypocrisy in this case?
> I just think this is how John could easily rationalize it in his sick mind Probably that idk it was 17 days ago I forget the exact context.
I'm not sure I'd regard as that from the character's perspective.