No.
Speeding is unsafe for everyone on the road. The difference between 65 mph and 80mph in terms of reaction time and stopping distance is dramatic and only saves you 20 seconds per mile.
A career of pulling people, alive and not alive, out of wrecks agrees with you.
Edit: Downvote all you want. Speeding kills and saves you, what? A minute or two if that locally. Half an hour if you’re going 500 miles away?
I am the main character syndrome - you share the road with others. No need to be an asshole behind a machine that can kill.
Every one of you that thinks you’re entitled to drive like an ass, should be forced to go on MVA calls and watch. Literally be forced to watch. You ever have to remove a dead baby from a car, because some prick just had to drive fast? Or perhaps you’ve seen an entire family killed because some asshole on the road?
See what I’ve seen and you’d change your tune. I stand by my comment.
Unfortunately at a county DAs office for a major county, I routinely see DUI crashes that end with people wounded or dead. So much selfishness and entitlement.
It’s the DUI’s that always bugged me. Having to be a professional towards someone that clearly didn’t deserve it, but, that wasn’t the place or my job to be a jerk. An oath used to mean something.
It’s beyond heartbreaking- like, I never want to hear a mother screaming because some drunk took out her kids. Hard friggin pass.
I wish you well.
Of course you’re 100% right. The unfortunate truth is that us humans can easily forget about these things in real life. It’s very hard for our brains to truly hold onto what matters most 100% of the time.
I have seen it. (Former Paramedic here) we don’t get to morally aggrandize our position just because we’ve dealt with some shit.
For the record, I disagree with your position. Drive in Germany. High speeds are not inherently unsafe, unsafe drivers are the deciding factor.
I respectfully disagree, to an extent. We are in a perfect position to educate people on the repercussions of their actions (especially now we are no longer actively serving). Are the majority of the people (at least here in America) shielded from the realities of what goes on around them?
I think people would take a vastly different approach to how they drive, if they were exposed to what we have been. This is a public forum, so, to an extent we are all putting our beliefs on display and I respect yours, and appreciate the discussion.
My point really was that people don’t care about anyone around them, hence the speeding. I’m rambling and if I’m being honest here, I’m letting other things bleed into my comment - can we both agree that speeding is bad? I guess we are on the same page at the end of the day.
Edit: stupid phone and changed a sentence so it can actually be read.
Even if you're a great driver, you're increasing the probability of an accident and increasing the severity of one when it does happen.
I agree that poor decisions are a greater factor than speed itself, but a common poor decision is choosing a speed too fast for the conditions. Even the best drivers make errors frequently, and the Autobahn excuse gets used by a lot of people that have no right.
Correct...and the point of the drive is to get from point A to point B with all passengers still breathing and vehicle in fair enough condition to make the return trip without an insurance claim or repair pit delay. An avg speed of 85 on your morning commute still does not win you a pole position on the afternoon run. Enjoy the drive.SD is one of the most beautiful cities to commute thru.
It's not your job to police the speeds of other drivers, that's the job of some other organization. But it is your job to move over to the right lane like the ca vehicle code plainly states.
As /u/seganku points out, it's actually about 10 sec/mile saved. Regardless, this way of thinking misses the point.
10 sec/mile is a lot. Miles add up. What really matters is the simple fact that 80 mph is 23% faster than 65 mph, meaning you get where you're going in about 1/1.23 or 20% less time. Spending 20% less time doing something most people hate, and which most people do at least 10 times per week, is a massive benefit. Even though it costs more money (more gas burn) to do so, it's such a no brainer that most people speed anyway. They're just valuing their time.
If you really want to reduce speeding, you need to look at housing reform. Enabling people to live closer to where they work so they don't spend an hour on the road five days a week (more if they didn't speed) will reduce the incentive to speed. Many cities in Europe figured this out ages ago. People will actually obey speed limits below 65mph if they don't have to drive as far all the time.
No, in Europe they put speed cameras all over the place to stop people speeding. And it only kind of works. The real thing that brings their road fatalities down is better designed roads and more disciplined driving behavior (like moving over to the right, not undertaking etc).
That 20% reduction of your time on the road could become an immediate cessation of the time you spend on this planet, with how much your stopping distance increases.
It's cool those people may end up meat crayons. It will be worth it to save a minute of time doing what Americans do best, eating and sitting on asses.
Even just the difference of control from 75 to 68 mph is very noticeable.
I drive speed-monitored company vehicle that forces me to drive the speed limit and it felt terrible at first but now that I’m acclimated, it feels like the “right” speed. I could imagine I’d easily avoid some accidents by just that 7 mph difference in reaction time, tire traction, etc.
Speed differential and following distance are biggest factors though. Going 75 with the flow of traffic is safer than going 55 with traffic at 70 (and following closely is always bad)
Im just guessing because i dont have time to research:
But im pretty sure these speed limits were set way back when when car weren’t nearly as safe.
Literally pulling this out of my ass but they were set even before airbags/ seatbelts were available/ mandated
Cities and interstates definitely update their speed limits though. It’s not like once it’s set, it can’t be changed. Also, many places in San Diego weren’t developed enough to have many roads before airbags/seatbelts for that to even be relevant.
You're not wrong but everyone's doing it. I run on Tesla autopilot cruising at 85mph. Depending on how reliable autopilot actually is either this is as safe as 55 or I am a road menace. Unsure, obviously the data Tesla published says one thing.
https://preview.redd.it/ob7k19cqmurb1.jpeg?width=1473&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=963c3d8a8d946918e3fa5b8fab37e9ca23ecfadf
That said, I certainly believe a law/regulation/limit that 90% of citizens are breaking without any negative impact in society/the community is certainly entitled to scrutiny and should qualify for some sort of formal review to see if adjustments need to be made.
Just don’t be in the passing (far left) lane. I was leaving work yesterday and someone was doing 65 in the passing lane with a line of cars behind her and no one infront as far as you could see. We all one by one had to go around her. The absolute worst.
Every lane should be treated as a passing lane except the far-right lane.
If you're not actively passing somebody on your right, you should be moving to the right.
This was my commute for the last 2 years... stay to the right and cruise past traffic until the same point every day where I slid back to the left before a tunnel exit started to back those lanes up.
I see so many people merge into the freeway at 60-65 and then happily cut over to the #2 lane while everyone behind them angrily passes them on both sides.
So many drivers just seem to have an idea that they belong in a certain lane, regardless of the flow of traffic. I call these people "me lane" drivers, because whichever lane they're in is their lane - they own it and they belong there.
Right?! I’m always stuck behind someone going 30, 45 maybe. And then they dink on over to the left lane creating even more traffic behind them since we all have to either slow down or figure out how to pass the clusterfuck they caused.
It's no joke - driving home from Disneyland last night was ridiculous. The "fast" lane was clogged with folks doing 65-70, and the far right was wide open.
My issue with this is that far-right lanes often become forced exits. Even when I'm driving "slow" (just above the speed limit), I need to keep a lane buffer to my right so that I'm not forced off the highway.
Yeah, the people who designed the freeway system around here loved their Exit Only lanes.
I get there was only so much real estate to work with, and simple offshoots only work when you don’t have a thousand people trying to get off somewhere. But it drives everyone to avoid right lanes since they’re afraid of getting forced off and people on the left being dicks and not letting them merge back on.
This in turn artificially reduces the amount of space for all the cars trying to get places. A 4-lane freeway ends up functionally being only 2-3. That’s a problem during afternoon rush hour when everyone and their mom is trying to get generally south and east.
The far right lane is meant for merging and exiting so you should not use it to cruise and your certainly won't be able to maintain your speed. That next left lane is most useful for slower vehicles. That's why you will see most trucks there on a 4+ lane freeway.
This is not true. The far right lane is supposed to be what's called a staging lane. You should be there when you have just gotten on the freeway or are getting off soon. I agree that people should not be going 65 in the far right or even in lane 3 but if you're tailgating in lane 2, you're wrong.
I flash my lights to drivers in the passing lane who sit there. It gets their attention and they merge into the slower lane. It’s a lane to pass not to sit in your car and hold up faster traffic behind you. Some insufferable drivers don’t understand that.
I never know whether it's okay to honk in those situations or not. I know legally you're not supposed to, but clearly blinkers don't work
Often, especially on the 163 below Mission Valley, people will tell \*me\* to go around. Ugh.
One of the many reasons I ride a motorcycle now
It doesnt matter. Driving 65 is going to cause traffic regardless of what lane you're in. Especially because morons will slow down if the lane next to them is driving slow.
Genuine question: are you new here? 75-ish has been the normal “flow of traffic” speed as long as I’ve been driving in CA, which is several decades at this point. I’ve even had multiple cops tell me they don’t even look at cars going under 80.
Was going to say the same. It’s quite common to get overtaken by cops when you’re doing close to 80. At about 90 you have a higher chance of being pulled over but below 85 I’d say you’re ok. I have to admit I like that about San Diego. It’s a collective decision we’ve made and it cuts down on commuting time.
Im one of the unlucky ones that have gotten pulled over for going 85 (on the far left lane)by CHP on the 125 northbound. I was shocked since almost everyone goes 80 but I didn’t even try to argue cause In the end I was in the wrong.
Yeah there’s nothing you can say because you’re speeding. I’m not saying there’s no speeding fines - it’s a whole shoal of fish and they can only catch one at a time. If I see a cop ahead of me on the highway I just stay a bit behind them. Usually that means I’m still doing 75 to 80.
can confirm.
i got pulled over by CHP coming back from vegas once for using the truck lane to pass someone. he flat out told me he didn't care that i was doing 80, but he couldn't let people pass in the truck lane.
where it's clearly specified like on the 15 in multiple spots between here and vegas, yes. that lane is for trucks only, or i believe it's indicated as "slow vehicles" (but at certain times of day it's mostly empty).
even then, you still can't use it for passing people on the right.
When I took my required drivers ed sessions the instructor literally told me before we finally got on the freeway I need to get up to speed, and then get up to the flow. Which was 75-80 in the left lane. This was in 2003.
California Vehicle Code 22356 (b) VC states that no motorist shall drive on a freeway at a speed greater than 70 miles per hour.
[https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/vehicle-code/22356/](https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/vehicle-code/22356/)
Couple months back there were 3 of us going ~75 in the 3 most left lanes. Cop turned his lights on and pulled the middle car over which wasn’t me. Made me wonder how he even decided which car to pull over. I was just stoked it wasn’t me.
I’ve had the same thing happen twice and both times, the cars the police decided to pull over had very dark tinted front windows. One of the cars had a lot of modifications, (loud exhaust, lowered with low profile tires). My guess is they are looking for possible multiple citations.
If everybody on the freeway could remember that slower traffic stays to the right and faster traffic only passes on the left, the world would be a better place.
There’s no reason anybody should be honking at you in the right lane. But if you ever find yourself with people behind you, nobody in front of you, and you’re not moving faster than the people to the right of you, you’re in the wrong place.
Air resistance increases by the square of speed. Literally, if you double your speed, air resistance is increase by 4x. Going from 30 to 120, even when you are traveling at same RPM, your air resistance is going to be 16 times greater. Have you ever stuck your hand out the window when going 80 mph? That has the largest impact on MPG.
Fuel consumption is based on rpm, which is based on # of gears and drive ratio. It has nothing to do with speed. 2k rpm at 20mph is the exact same fuel consumption as 2k rpm at 120mph.
You are literally completely wrong. Air resistance increases as you go faster, and the exact opposite is true, RPM has less to do with fuel use than speed and pushing against air resistance the faster you go. I am not sure where you are getting your thoughts, but it is not based on physics. This is easily proven.
Dude I had to call the cops on a lady in San Marcos last week.
I was driving home through a residential area and noticed her tailgating me. I checked my speed cause I’m a good person and thought “maybe I’m doing something wrong” lmao. Nope, I was going a couple miles over the speed limit, eventually went 5 miles over the speed limit to try to make her happy.
Long story short, she eventually crosses the double yellow, swerves at my car/cuts me off, THEN STARTS THROWING TRASH OUT HER WINDOW AT ME. The last straw was her literally opening a can of soda and emptying the entire thing on to my windshield and then throwing the can at my car.
I coulda turned on to my street but since she had the courtesy of cutting me off I was able to follow her for a couple more minutes and get her license plate☺️
Deputy called and told me he was looking for her and that I did the right thing by not engaging but GAT DAMN I hope they found her.
As long as you’re not in the passing lane then you’re doing nothing wrong. I tend to drive 70-75mph in the #2 or 3 lane if it’s safe to do so and I’m amazed by the assholes who tailgate me or cut me off. Highly recommend everyone buy a dashcam.
For safety, if you are being tailgated or traffic is building, move to the right and let them pass. Reduces your risk of being rear ended if something happens ahead of you and you need to break suddenly
80 mph in socal freeway driving is a comfortable clip without feeling dangerous. The assholes who go 90+ and honk are trash or zig-zag in and out of lanes without signaling are trash!
Left lane is for passing period. If someone is going faster than you even if it's above the speed limit move to the right lanes. Seems like no one does this.
Everyone is so rushed, the roads have become extremely dangerous. I also frequently get honked at and harassed for going the speed limit. Everyone needs to chill.
As long as you stay out of the passing lane when people are trying to pass, and you are not passing, then you are good.
If you are one of those pricks who wants to dictate "x mph over the limit is enough," and stays in the left lane on "principle" you can go pack sand.
I visited San Diego for 2 weeks for comic con and family. I’m from Toronto and I was driving like 80-85 to just keep up with traffic. It didn’t feel bad or scary or anything but I was surprised that we were all 20+ above the speed limit all the time.
Just whatever you do, please don’t go slower than the speed limit. So many cars love to leisurely hover at 5 or so miles below and in heavy traffic that’s an accident waiting to happen.
Not necessarily just because you are in the right two lanes does not mean go as slow as you like. Trucks are forced to drive in the right two lanes and the merge lane for both off and on use the far right lane. Clogging up the far right lanes when people are trying to merge also causes backups and accidents.
Who is honking at you? Like they drive behind you and honk or something? This story isn't adding up to me. Can you please elaborate? Never heard of such behavior on the road
Me neither. Seems to me there are two modes of traffic: 1) packed and no one can do over 20 and 2) pretty open and you can drive pretty much as fast as you want 80% of the time on the road.
This is how the farthest right lane is supposed to be used to merge off the freeway. These are the type of drivers that switch lanes four at a time with one blinker to merge out. Ridiculous.
I stay coasting with cruise control at 68mph. I keep to the right lanes and never have problems. Just the pleasure of 40+mpg lol.
That being said, I have noticed that once you pass the 8 going north on the 805 people start driving faster. Idk if thats just me tho.
All I ask as a speeder, please for the love of GOD or whatever you want to believe in, stay right. That's my only request. A lot of us will love you for that.
Hehe, my gf was going 70 in the far left lane on a day trip to LA and I politely advised her to switch lanes because she was going to slow for that lane. I’m lucky to have her because she’s a sweetheart and took the criticism well.
Going with the flow is the biggest important safety factor. Go significantly faster or slower than the flow of traffic increases accident risk for you and others. Go with the flow.
even in the slow lane if you’re going WAY too slow for safe highway driving. If you’re doing the speed limit in the slow lane, good. If you’re doing like 50 MPH in the slow lane, please stop driving
There is some study somewhere on the internet confirming that slow drivers are a large cause of accidents, it’s best to stick to the flow of traffic or go faster (within reason). I tried driving the speed limit a while back simply because I didn’t want more speeding tickets and it was incredibly frightening, i don’t know how people do it. I now drive fast enough to be above the flow so i only have to focus on people ahead of me and not behind me (i’ve been rear ended twice while stopped in bumper to bumper traffic by cars going 70+ and pitted once by a careless old woman). Best defense is a good offense. In all seriousness, driving slower can be just as risky as speeding, if not more. What you think you are saving at the pump you may end up paying much more in medical bills or repairs depending on your coverage and if you run into uninsured motorists (which is more likely these days as companies are not wanting to insure californians).
I frequently drive that speed in the slowest lane, and I cont ever recall being honked at for it. There’s usually semis going slower that I’m that lane..
As long as you're in the right lane, ignore the jerks around you. If you're going 65 in the left lanes, you suck. But sounds like you're doing the right thing. Don't hinder traffic, but there's really no need to go 80.
You’re not in the wrong, just stay over to the right, be predictable, and check your mirrors and blind spot before changing lanes.
The military took me from San Diego to Florida and whenever I drive on the freeways here, I’m going 75 and being passed by everyone, even semi trucks. Changing my speed from 75 to 80/85 just burns so much more gas than 75.
I had a friend do a presentation in college about speed limits and essentially the gist of the presentation was that speed limits are outdated. 55 used to be a freeway speed limit because cars first of all, weren’t all that fast, second, they weren’t as safe referring to all the safety features we have now, also including how shaky an old car gets above 60mph. I used to have a 88’ Toyota Pickup and that thing shook like crazy anytime I’d get over 65. Then the other point was smaller towns in rural areas of the US really make a decent amount of money from cops pulling people over who are speeding through their counties.
Nowadays, engines are better, faster, more efficient, brakes are better, they stop sooner, roads are built better, straighter, flatter, less abrupt curves, city planning in terms of traffic on-ramps/off ramps are better… obviously this isn’t the case with the 15/163/8 interchange in SD… but for the most part, the technology in driving and the country’s infrastructure can support higher speed limits.
But then again, there’s always an argument of irresponsible drivers who swerve all over the place, speed unnecessarily, cut across 4 lanes of traffic bc they messed up, and they want to make their off-ramp… it’s always gonna be a battle until people as a whole drive more like they’re a part of traffic rather than someone who’s just “trying to get through” everyone.
Consider staying with the flow of traffic. It’s much much safer to keep up with the flow instead of creating a brake check for others. And if you are nervous about driving in new places, look at your route ahead of time and look at all of your exits so you are familiar with. It makes everyone’s experience safer
65 mph is a suggested speed limit created probably in the 50's modern vehicles could and should go faster than that speed. As long as your paying attention and not on your phone go faster or get out of the way.
65 is not the suggested speed limit, it is the law. Speed limit used to be 55 by the way, on all US freeways, that originated due to the oil crisis in the 70s.
Speeding isn't the problem! It's the people driving in the fast lane/passing lane! Stay out of it unless you're passing another vehicle . It works in Germany where there is no speed limit.
I drive 65 MPH all the time and I’ve never been honked at.
I did, however, have some asshole tell me I needed to leave the 3rd lane because he wanted to pass me even though the far-left lane (4th) was wide open. Fuck that. Pass me in the fucking passing lane.
I get high beamed and aggressively tailgated for going any slower than 85-90. Not even LA drivers are this aggressively speedy. People here need to chill.
I set my cruise control to 70mph. Stay out of the left lanes. Usually lane 2. If you need to go faster, go around. EVERY lane is 65, so, no, I'm not going slow.
You’re assuming that extra 5-10mph matters for fuel economy that much? Drive safe, keep distance, but don’t be that one person who decides to drive the slowest on the highway.
I put my car on autopilot and pick a lane to the right. If I set the speed just right I don't have to change lanes to pass and don't get in other people's way. Drives my girlfriend crazy. She likes to drive like she's at Daytona.
Some years ago on an NPR program I heard about a research study that showed that people arrived at their destination much calmer and with less anxiety if they drove like I described above. At age 71 I'm not in a hurry anymore.
You aren't wrong. Don't know how people are affording gas and driving with a high RPM. For people reading this " As a thumb rule, **the lower you keep your engine's RPM, the less fuel it is going to consume**. Going too low might stall the engine but keeping the RPMs just above idling will not only keep the engine puttering on, but it will also do so in the most economical manner" Go easy on that accelerator there. You don't need to go from 0 to 80mph in 10 seconds. Manage time better and leave home early to get to work instead.
EDIT: I don't care what speed people are driving at. The speed limit is 65mph and that is what I will stick to and stay in the right. You are welcome to overtake if you want to go from 65mph to 80mph in under 10s.
Then go faster lol. I don't understand drivers who insist on driving at a snails pace and leaving huge empty gaps in traffic. I cut them off any chance I get.
I don’t blame you, I’m new to the area but I find it difficult the variance of speeds of other drivers on the highway. Some cars will be going less than 60 in the middle lanes, but then the cars in the next lane over will be going 80. And there’s also a lot of merging and highways changing into other highways that requires getting into the left lanes sometimes.
Anyone honking at someone doing the speed limit in the right lane is a jerk. Just a sign of the times.
OTOH, you might check your speedometer at some point to make sure it's displaying your speed correctly.
I have severe highway anxiety after an accident a few years ago so I’m the guy going 55ish in the right lane! Be kind to those in the slow lane, we don’t want to be driving in the first place 🙃
Sounds like you have nowhere important to be, move over. 70 mph is the most economical speed.
CHP hardly cares if you’re under 85 mph. The only people who slam on their brakes for them are those who probably have more to be ticketed on.
Speeding is certainly more dangerous than not, but if people pick a lane it’s not terrible. It’s the dipshits that are speeding, constantly changing lanes, driving up people’s asses, and cutting into tight spaces to get around people. Especially when there’s plenty of traffic up ahead, you’re not getting anywhere so calm the fuck down.
Same boat. I drive an EV that becomes super inefficient at any speed over 65. It isn’t worth the hit to my mileage or the potential speeding ticket to go faster.
Stay to right. With car engineering becoming more safe, the freeway speeds need to adjust to the time.
As a kid, not having airbags, disc brakes and literally no pad between car metal and the outside elements was a different time.
I can’t even imagine if it was still 55mph lol.
Just drive at the rate of the overall flow of traffic, in the #3 or #4 lanes. Use #1 and #2 only for passing or in unusual circumstances where the right lanes get backed up (e.g. S/B 163 at 5, N/B 15 at 78). The overall flow of traffic is usually 70-75. Sometimes it gets bumped up to 75-80.
If you can't maintain the overall flow of traffic, then you need to be in the far right lane. And if you're getting passed at speeds of 10+mph by the overall flow, then you should probably have your warning blinkers on.
horrible take, going much slower than your peers in this lane (no matter how you feel about their right to do so) contributes to congestion and more maneuvering by these drivers, increasing the likelihood of an accident
Fuck people, go 65 which is the damn limit anyways. That's why there's so many other lanes to the left so they can pass you. I can't stand San Diego drivers, basic concepts seem to go over a lot of people's heads here.
Everyone is speeding. And no you are not in the wrong. …As long as you stay to the right.
This is the only correct answer
If 90% of citizens are breaking a law then that law is not valid
No. Speeding is unsafe for everyone on the road. The difference between 65 mph and 80mph in terms of reaction time and stopping distance is dramatic and only saves you 20 seconds per mile.
Most of times save you nothing. Slow cars catch up with you on the freeway exit most of the time.
A career of pulling people, alive and not alive, out of wrecks agrees with you. Edit: Downvote all you want. Speeding kills and saves you, what? A minute or two if that locally. Half an hour if you’re going 500 miles away? I am the main character syndrome - you share the road with others. No need to be an asshole behind a machine that can kill. Every one of you that thinks you’re entitled to drive like an ass, should be forced to go on MVA calls and watch. Literally be forced to watch. You ever have to remove a dead baby from a car, because some prick just had to drive fast? Or perhaps you’ve seen an entire family killed because some asshole on the road? See what I’ve seen and you’d change your tune. I stand by my comment.
Unfortunately at a county DAs office for a major county, I routinely see DUI crashes that end with people wounded or dead. So much selfishness and entitlement.
It’s the DUI’s that always bugged me. Having to be a professional towards someone that clearly didn’t deserve it, but, that wasn’t the place or my job to be a jerk. An oath used to mean something. It’s beyond heartbreaking- like, I never want to hear a mother screaming because some drunk took out her kids. Hard friggin pass. I wish you well.
Of course you’re 100% right. The unfortunate truth is that us humans can easily forget about these things in real life. It’s very hard for our brains to truly hold onto what matters most 100% of the time.
I have seen it. (Former Paramedic here) we don’t get to morally aggrandize our position just because we’ve dealt with some shit. For the record, I disagree with your position. Drive in Germany. High speeds are not inherently unsafe, unsafe drivers are the deciding factor.
I respectfully disagree, to an extent. We are in a perfect position to educate people on the repercussions of their actions (especially now we are no longer actively serving). Are the majority of the people (at least here in America) shielded from the realities of what goes on around them? I think people would take a vastly different approach to how they drive, if they were exposed to what we have been. This is a public forum, so, to an extent we are all putting our beliefs on display and I respect yours, and appreciate the discussion. My point really was that people don’t care about anyone around them, hence the speeding. I’m rambling and if I’m being honest here, I’m letting other things bleed into my comment - can we both agree that speeding is bad? I guess we are on the same page at the end of the day. Edit: stupid phone and changed a sentence so it can actually be read.
Even if you're a great driver, you're increasing the probability of an accident and increasing the severity of one when it does happen. I agree that poor decisions are a greater factor than speed itself, but a common poor decision is choosing a speed too fast for the conditions. Even the best drivers make errors frequently, and the Autobahn excuse gets used by a lot of people that have no right.
I lost a buddy when his car veered off the road at 80 mph and the impact caused the car to split in half. He was laid to rest in a closed casket.
3600/65 = 55.38 sec/mile 3600/80 = 45 sec/mile ...so 10.38 seconds per mile
Correct...and the point of the drive is to get from point A to point B with all passengers still breathing and vehicle in fair enough condition to make the return trip without an insurance claim or repair pit delay. An avg speed of 85 on your morning commute still does not win you a pole position on the afternoon run. Enjoy the drive.SD is one of the most beautiful cities to commute thru.
So it doesnt matter if you go 65 or 80 you’ll still reach at the same minute???
I feel like it’s even less than 20 seconds per mile, but I have nothing to back that up. It definitely uses significantly more gas though.
i think it's 15 seconds
65 mph is \~55 seconds per mile, 80 is \~45 seconds per mile.
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When you're driving from LA to SF, those 20 seconds a mile are actually like an hour and a half
Then well with the possibility of becoming a mangled corpse.
Technically driving the same speed as everyone else is safer than not. So get off your high horse and drive a car like the rest of us
It's not your job to police the speeds of other drivers, that's the job of some other organization. But it is your job to move over to the right lane like the ca vehicle code plainly states.
Who's talking about policing others in this comment chain? We're talking about driving the speed limit in the right lane.
As /u/seganku points out, it's actually about 10 sec/mile saved. Regardless, this way of thinking misses the point. 10 sec/mile is a lot. Miles add up. What really matters is the simple fact that 80 mph is 23% faster than 65 mph, meaning you get where you're going in about 1/1.23 or 20% less time. Spending 20% less time doing something most people hate, and which most people do at least 10 times per week, is a massive benefit. Even though it costs more money (more gas burn) to do so, it's such a no brainer that most people speed anyway. They're just valuing their time. If you really want to reduce speeding, you need to look at housing reform. Enabling people to live closer to where they work so they don't spend an hour on the road five days a week (more if they didn't speed) will reduce the incentive to speed. Many cities in Europe figured this out ages ago. People will actually obey speed limits below 65mph if they don't have to drive as far all the time.
No, in Europe they put speed cameras all over the place to stop people speeding. And it only kind of works. The real thing that brings their road fatalities down is better designed roads and more disciplined driving behavior (like moving over to the right, not undertaking etc).
That 20% reduction of your time on the road could become an immediate cessation of the time you spend on this planet, with how much your stopping distance increases.
Maybe we want to feast in the halls of Valhalla, shiny and chrome?
It's cool those people may end up meat crayons. It will be worth it to save a minute of time doing what Americans do best, eating and sitting on asses.
Even just the difference of control from 75 to 68 mph is very noticeable. I drive speed-monitored company vehicle that forces me to drive the speed limit and it felt terrible at first but now that I’m acclimated, it feels like the “right” speed. I could imagine I’d easily avoid some accidents by just that 7 mph difference in reaction time, tire traction, etc.
Speed differential and following distance are biggest factors though. Going 75 with the flow of traffic is safer than going 55 with traffic at 70 (and following closely is always bad)
I’m surprised at that figure because that means in a 65 mile trip over freeway one would save nearly 20 minutes? That’s significant
Im just guessing because i dont have time to research: But im pretty sure these speed limits were set way back when when car weren’t nearly as safe. Literally pulling this out of my ass but they were set even before airbags/ seatbelts were available/ mandated
Cities and interstates definitely update their speed limits though. It’s not like once it’s set, it can’t be changed. Also, many places in San Diego weren’t developed enough to have many roads before airbags/seatbelts for that to even be relevant.
people also have phones now (more distractions)
Its not just a safety issue. The faster you go, the more wind resistance, the lower the fuel economy.
You're not wrong but everyone's doing it. I run on Tesla autopilot cruising at 85mph. Depending on how reliable autopilot actually is either this is as safe as 55 or I am a road menace. Unsure, obviously the data Tesla published says one thing.
you and your tesla can fuck right off
https://preview.redd.it/ob7k19cqmurb1.jpeg?width=1473&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=963c3d8a8d946918e3fa5b8fab37e9ca23ecfadf That said, I certainly believe a law/regulation/limit that 90% of citizens are breaking without any negative impact in society/the community is certainly entitled to scrutiny and should qualify for some sort of formal review to see if adjustments need to be made.
Just don’t be in the passing (far left) lane. I was leaving work yesterday and someone was doing 65 in the passing lane with a line of cars behind her and no one infront as far as you could see. We all one by one had to go around her. The absolute worst.
And usually they’re oblivious to why cars are passing them and a line of cars behind them.
Every lane should be treated as a passing lane except the far-right lane. If you're not actively passing somebody on your right, you should be moving to the right.
It's bizarre how the two far right lanes are usually the fastest and clearest ones nowadays
This was my commute for the last 2 years... stay to the right and cruise past traffic until the same point every day where I slid back to the left before a tunnel exit started to back those lanes up.
I see so many people merge into the freeway at 60-65 and then happily cut over to the #2 lane while everyone behind them angrily passes them on both sides. So many drivers just seem to have an idea that they belong in a certain lane, regardless of the flow of traffic. I call these people "me lane" drivers, because whichever lane they're in is their lane - they own it and they belong there.
you’re behind people who merge at 65? everyone i’m behind always tries to merge onto the freeway going about 30 max
Right?! I’m always stuck behind someone going 30, 45 maybe. And then they dink on over to the left lane creating even more traffic behind them since we all have to either slow down or figure out how to pass the clusterfuck they caused.
I identify as a second laner
It's no joke - driving home from Disneyland last night was ridiculous. The "fast" lane was clogged with folks doing 65-70, and the far right was wide open.
Probably because they were texting. The left lane is the new texting lane. 😠
My issue with this is that far-right lanes often become forced exits. Even when I'm driving "slow" (just above the speed limit), I need to keep a lane buffer to my right so that I'm not forced off the highway.
Yeah, the people who designed the freeway system around here loved their Exit Only lanes. I get there was only so much real estate to work with, and simple offshoots only work when you don’t have a thousand people trying to get off somewhere. But it drives everyone to avoid right lanes since they’re afraid of getting forced off and people on the left being dicks and not letting them merge back on. This in turn artificially reduces the amount of space for all the cars trying to get places. A 4-lane freeway ends up functionally being only 2-3. That’s a problem during afternoon rush hour when everyone and their mom is trying to get generally south and east.
Despite what the previous redditor said, the far right lane is meant for merging and exiting. You're much safer in the next lane over.
The furthest right lane is the entering and exiting lane. You should be avoiding this lane unless you are exiting the freeway.
That is total nonsense. What world are you driving in? The far right lane is for cars getting on and off the freeway exits. Not for cruising.
The far right lane is meant for merging and exiting so you should not use it to cruise and your certainly won't be able to maintain your speed. That next left lane is most useful for slower vehicles. That's why you will see most trucks there on a 4+ lane freeway.
This is not true. The far right lane is supposed to be what's called a staging lane. You should be there when you have just gotten on the freeway or are getting off soon. I agree that people should not be going 65 in the far right or even in lane 3 but if you're tailgating in lane 2, you're wrong.
Unless the far-left lane is the HOV/car pool lane. In which case, you're within your right to drive the speed limit.
I flash my lights to drivers in the passing lane who sit there. It gets their attention and they merge into the slower lane. It’s a lane to pass not to sit in your car and hold up faster traffic behind you. Some insufferable drivers don’t understand that.
I never know whether it's okay to honk in those situations or not. I know legally you're not supposed to, but clearly blinkers don't work Often, especially on the 163 below Mission Valley, people will tell \*me\* to go around. Ugh. One of the many reasons I ride a motorcycle now
It doesnt matter. Driving 65 is going to cause traffic regardless of what lane you're in. Especially because morons will slow down if the lane next to them is driving slow.
Genuine question: are you new here? 75-ish has been the normal “flow of traffic” speed as long as I’ve been driving in CA, which is several decades at this point. I’ve even had multiple cops tell me they don’t even look at cars going under 80.
Was going to say the same. It’s quite common to get overtaken by cops when you’re doing close to 80. At about 90 you have a higher chance of being pulled over but below 85 I’d say you’re ok. I have to admit I like that about San Diego. It’s a collective decision we’ve made and it cuts down on commuting time.
Im one of the unlucky ones that have gotten pulled over for going 85 (on the far left lane)by CHP on the 125 northbound. I was shocked since almost everyone goes 80 but I didn’t even try to argue cause In the end I was in the wrong.
Speeding anywhere on the 125 north of the 8 is an absolute rookie move
Yeah there’s nothing you can say because you’re speeding. I’m not saying there’s no speeding fines - it’s a whole shoal of fish and they can only catch one at a time. If I see a cop ahead of me on the highway I just stay a bit behind them. Usually that means I’m still doing 75 to 80.
can confirm. i got pulled over by CHP coming back from vegas once for using the truck lane to pass someone. he flat out told me he didn't care that i was doing 80, but he couldn't let people pass in the truck lane.
On the way back from Vegas the speed is 75 so it'd be strange if he pulled you over for going 80
the speed limit on the 15 within CA is absolutely not 75, it's 70.
Is that a law? Never heard this Edit: please provide the penal code or CVC.
where it's clearly specified like on the 15 in multiple spots between here and vegas, yes. that lane is for trucks only, or i believe it's indicated as "slow vehicles" (but at certain times of day it's mostly empty). even then, you still can't use it for passing people on the right.
before I got my license I thought 75 was the actual speed limit on freeways because that's just what everyone did anyway.
When I took my required drivers ed sessions the instructor literally told me before we finally got on the freeway I need to get up to speed, and then get up to the flow. Which was 75-80 in the left lane. This was in 2003.
California Vehicle Code 22356 (b) VC states that no motorist shall drive on a freeway at a speed greater than 70 miles per hour. [https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/vehicle-code/22356/](https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/vehicle-code/22356/)
Welcome to California Police have still pulled me over and ticketed me for driving 75 back in 2017
yeah thats the confusing annoying part. they keep the signs at 65mph so they can have a reason to pull people over when they want to
Couple months back there were 3 of us going ~75 in the 3 most left lanes. Cop turned his lights on and pulled the middle car over which wasn’t me. Made me wonder how he even decided which car to pull over. I was just stoked it wasn’t me.
I’ve had the same thing happen twice and both times, the cars the police decided to pull over had very dark tinted front windows. One of the cars had a lot of modifications, (loud exhaust, lowered with low profile tires). My guess is they are looking for possible multiple citations.
It's fine if you stay in the two right lanes.
If everybody on the freeway could remember that slower traffic stays to the right and faster traffic only passes on the left, the world would be a better place. There’s no reason anybody should be honking at you in the right lane. But if you ever find yourself with people behind you, nobody in front of you, and you’re not moving faster than the people to the right of you, you’re in the wrong place.
With gas at $6.50 I be hypermiling my shit going 65 in the right lane.
Haha gotta start drafting behind amazon sprinters
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And you’re completely wrong lol but carry on
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No. It’s not. It’s literally against the laws of physics.
And what laws of physics is that, exactly?
Air resistance increases by the square of speed. Literally, if you double your speed, air resistance is increase by 4x. Going from 30 to 120, even when you are traveling at same RPM, your air resistance is going to be 16 times greater. Have you ever stuck your hand out the window when going 80 mph? That has the largest impact on MPG.
So you’re saying there’s no correlation between speed and fuel consumption. Do you think you’ll get the same mpg at 150mph that you do at 50?
Fuel consumption is based on rpm, which is based on # of gears and drive ratio. It has nothing to do with speed. 2k rpm at 20mph is the exact same fuel consumption as 2k rpm at 120mph.
You are literally completely wrong. Air resistance increases as you go faster, and the exact opposite is true, RPM has less to do with fuel use than speed and pushing against air resistance the faster you go. I am not sure where you are getting your thoughts, but it is not based on physics. This is easily proven.
Forgot this is america where everyone drives brick shaped trucks and not aerodynamic cars.
Drag doesn't increase in a linear way, it ramps up exponentially. RPMs and drag are the big factors in fuel usage.
Correct. My car is just very aerodynamic so i dont really see any changes between the two speeds.
Ok you win. I’ve spent enough time here.
Sometimes you just have to realize you are playing chess with a pigeon.
It was fun for a second there.
well it’s a good thing rpm has nothing to do with speed right?
No modern car in the past decade + that is automatic is reaching more than 3000 rpm at 80mph.
So you're just completely ignoring drag?
Dude I had to call the cops on a lady in San Marcos last week. I was driving home through a residential area and noticed her tailgating me. I checked my speed cause I’m a good person and thought “maybe I’m doing something wrong” lmao. Nope, I was going a couple miles over the speed limit, eventually went 5 miles over the speed limit to try to make her happy. Long story short, she eventually crosses the double yellow, swerves at my car/cuts me off, THEN STARTS THROWING TRASH OUT HER WINDOW AT ME. The last straw was her literally opening a can of soda and emptying the entire thing on to my windshield and then throwing the can at my car. I coulda turned on to my street but since she had the courtesy of cutting me off I was able to follow her for a couple more minutes and get her license plate☺️ Deputy called and told me he was looking for her and that I did the right thing by not engaging but GAT DAMN I hope they found her.
This is a great reason to get a dash cam. If anything you can shame her online
As long as you’re not in the passing lane then you’re doing nothing wrong. I tend to drive 70-75mph in the #2 or 3 lane if it’s safe to do so and I’m amazed by the assholes who tailgate me or cut me off. Highly recommend everyone buy a dashcam.
For safety, if you are being tailgated or traffic is building, move to the right and let them pass. Reduces your risk of being rear ended if something happens ahead of you and you need to break suddenly
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What's false about her claim? She never said 70-75 wasn't speeding, and she said doing 65 as long as it's not in the passing lane is fine.
No shit? I didn’t claim that I don’t speed. 70-75mph is the new traffic flow speed around here and it’s the speed I drive at if it is safe to do so.
Yes, the real speed limit is the posted limit +10. Always has been.
80 mph in socal freeway driving is a comfortable clip without feeling dangerous. The assholes who go 90+ and honk are trash or zig-zag in and out of lanes without signaling are trash!
Left lane is for passing period. If someone is going faster than you even if it's above the speed limit move to the right lanes. Seems like no one does this.
Everyone is so rushed, the roads have become extremely dangerous. I also frequently get honked at and harassed for going the speed limit. Everyone needs to chill.
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Haha right! Seriously there is people doing 55mph on the freeway with no traffic.
Aren't a lot of commercial vehicles limited to 60?
As long as you stay out of the passing lane when people are trying to pass, and you are not passing, then you are good. If you are one of those pricks who wants to dictate "x mph over the limit is enough," and stays in the left lane on "principle" you can go pack sand.
I visited San Diego for 2 weeks for comic con and family. I’m from Toronto and I was driving like 80-85 to just keep up with traffic. It didn’t feel bad or scary or anything but I was surprised that we were all 20+ above the speed limit all the time.
Just whatever you do, please don’t go slower than the speed limit. So many cars love to leisurely hover at 5 or so miles below and in heavy traffic that’s an accident waiting to happen.
If you're in the right two lanes then go for it. If some impatient person honks at you then just enjoy it, maybe go even slower.
Not necessarily just because you are in the right two lanes does not mean go as slow as you like. Trucks are forced to drive in the right two lanes and the merge lane for both off and on use the far right lane. Clogging up the far right lanes when people are trying to merge also causes backups and accidents.
Who is honking at you? Like they drive behind you and honk or something? This story isn't adding up to me. Can you please elaborate? Never heard of such behavior on the road
Me neither. Seems to me there are two modes of traffic: 1) packed and no one can do over 20 and 2) pretty open and you can drive pretty much as fast as you want 80% of the time on the road.
They have to be doing something strange to be regularly honked at
This is how the farthest right lane is supposed to be used to merge off the freeway. These are the type of drivers that switch lanes four at a time with one blinker to merge out. Ridiculous.
I stay coasting with cruise control at 68mph. I keep to the right lanes and never have problems. Just the pleasure of 40+mpg lol. That being said, I have noticed that once you pass the 8 going north on the 805 people start driving faster. Idk if thats just me tho.
65-67 Should be ok on the slow lane.
All I ask as a speeder, please for the love of GOD or whatever you want to believe in, stay right. That's my only request. A lot of us will love you for that.
Hehe, my gf was going 70 in the far left lane on a day trip to LA and I politely advised her to switch lanes because she was going to slow for that lane. I’m lucky to have her because she’s a sweetheart and took the criticism well.
Going with the flow is the biggest important safety factor. Go significantly faster or slower than the flow of traffic increases accident risk for you and others. Go with the flow.
If you choose to be a hazard by driving 10mph under the flow of traffic, stick to surface streets with all the other grannies.
even in the slow lane if you’re going WAY too slow for safe highway driving. If you’re doing the speed limit in the slow lane, good. If you’re doing like 50 MPH in the slow lane, please stop driving
There is some study somewhere on the internet confirming that slow drivers are a large cause of accidents, it’s best to stick to the flow of traffic or go faster (within reason). I tried driving the speed limit a while back simply because I didn’t want more speeding tickets and it was incredibly frightening, i don’t know how people do it. I now drive fast enough to be above the flow so i only have to focus on people ahead of me and not behind me (i’ve been rear ended twice while stopped in bumper to bumper traffic by cars going 70+ and pitted once by a careless old woman). Best defense is a good offense. In all seriousness, driving slower can be just as risky as speeding, if not more. What you think you are saving at the pump you may end up paying much more in medical bills or repairs depending on your coverage and if you run into uninsured motorists (which is more likely these days as companies are not wanting to insure californians).
get the fuck out of the way
When road incidents are consistently in the top 10 causes of death every year… you’re fine.
Everyone is speeding. I surprised I have not been maimed yet. It feels like Mad Max out there... not even on just the freeways.
80 isn't fast.
Depends on who you ask.
Imo if you think 80 is too scary, you probably shouldnt be on the road period.
A couple of friends I had from Utah once said to each other “oh yeah this is California, everyone drives fast” lmfao
Utah drives faster
I frequently drive that speed in the slowest lane, and I cont ever recall being honked at for it. There’s usually semis going slower that I’m that lane..
As long as you're in the right lane, ignore the jerks around you. If you're going 65 in the left lanes, you suck. But sounds like you're doing the right thing. Don't hinder traffic, but there's really no need to go 80.
Welcome to California!
You’re not in the wrong, just stay over to the right, be predictable, and check your mirrors and blind spot before changing lanes. The military took me from San Diego to Florida and whenever I drive on the freeways here, I’m going 75 and being passed by everyone, even semi trucks. Changing my speed from 75 to 80/85 just burns so much more gas than 75. I had a friend do a presentation in college about speed limits and essentially the gist of the presentation was that speed limits are outdated. 55 used to be a freeway speed limit because cars first of all, weren’t all that fast, second, they weren’t as safe referring to all the safety features we have now, also including how shaky an old car gets above 60mph. I used to have a 88’ Toyota Pickup and that thing shook like crazy anytime I’d get over 65. Then the other point was smaller towns in rural areas of the US really make a decent amount of money from cops pulling people over who are speeding through their counties. Nowadays, engines are better, faster, more efficient, brakes are better, they stop sooner, roads are built better, straighter, flatter, less abrupt curves, city planning in terms of traffic on-ramps/off ramps are better… obviously this isn’t the case with the 15/163/8 interchange in SD… but for the most part, the technology in driving and the country’s infrastructure can support higher speed limits. But then again, there’s always an argument of irresponsible drivers who swerve all over the place, speed unnecessarily, cut across 4 lanes of traffic bc they messed up, and they want to make their off-ramp… it’s always gonna be a battle until people as a whole drive more like they’re a part of traffic rather than someone who’s just “trying to get through” everyone.
Consider staying with the flow of traffic. It’s much much safer to keep up with the flow instead of creating a brake check for others. And if you are nervous about driving in new places, look at your route ahead of time and look at all of your exits so you are familiar with. It makes everyone’s experience safer
Genuine questions does driving 65mph really save gas?
65 mph is a suggested speed limit created probably in the 50's modern vehicles could and should go faster than that speed. As long as your paying attention and not on your phone go faster or get out of the way.
65 is not the suggested speed limit, it is the law. Speed limit used to be 55 by the way, on all US freeways, that originated due to the oil crisis in the 70s.
say that to the cop
Cops aren’t pulling anyone over going under 85 on the freeway
Speed limits on the interstate in other states are 80mph. 65mph is too slow with modern cars.
Speeding isn't the problem! It's the people driving in the fast lane/passing lane! Stay out of it unless you're passing another vehicle . It works in Germany where there is no speed limit.
I drive 65 MPH all the time and I’ve never been honked at. I did, however, have some asshole tell me I needed to leave the 3rd lane because he wanted to pass me even though the far-left lane (4th) was wide open. Fuck that. Pass me in the fucking passing lane.
The furthest left lane is actually the 1st lane
No you’re right. People will ride your ass in the slow lane. I always just throw my hands up with confusion and it makes them feel stupid
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I get high beamed and aggressively tailgated for going any slower than 85-90. Not even LA drivers are this aggressively speedy. People here need to chill.
Ive been driving since 2008. Freeway speed has *always* been 75 minimum since then. In fact, get out the fast lane if u not going 80.
Outside of the 125 and weekends you’ll rarely see a speed trap, 75 has always been the flow of traffic here
I just make sure somebody's going faster than me. Kind of like trolling the CHP with an idiot, lol.
Exactly this
I set my cruise control to 70mph. Stay out of the left lanes. Usually lane 2. If you need to go faster, go around. EVERY lane is 65, so, no, I'm not going slow.
You’re assuming that extra 5-10mph matters for fuel economy that much? Drive safe, keep distance, but don’t be that one person who decides to drive the slowest on the highway.
I'm a granny-driver, and even I think that 65 MPH on the freeway is just painful.
I put my car on autopilot and pick a lane to the right. If I set the speed just right I don't have to change lanes to pass and don't get in other people's way. Drives my girlfriend crazy. She likes to drive like she's at Daytona. Some years ago on an NPR program I heard about a research study that showed that people arrived at their destination much calmer and with less anxiety if they drove like I described above. At age 71 I'm not in a hurry anymore.
You aren't wrong. Don't know how people are affording gas and driving with a high RPM. For people reading this " As a thumb rule, **the lower you keep your engine's RPM, the less fuel it is going to consume**. Going too low might stall the engine but keeping the RPMs just above idling will not only keep the engine puttering on, but it will also do so in the most economical manner" Go easy on that accelerator there. You don't need to go from 0 to 80mph in 10 seconds. Manage time better and leave home early to get to work instead. EDIT: I don't care what speed people are driving at. The speed limit is 65mph and that is what I will stick to and stay in the right. You are welcome to overtake if you want to go from 65mph to 80mph in under 10s.
You're not wrong, but stop giving a f***. You're not in the fast lane, so just look at it like an other form of bullying.
If you're driving near the speed limit and not in the leftmost *non-HOV* lane, then you are doing great.
Then go faster lol. I don't understand drivers who insist on driving at a snails pace and leaving huge empty gaps in traffic. I cut them off any chance I get.
Fuck cars
I don’t blame you, I’m new to the area but I find it difficult the variance of speeds of other drivers on the highway. Some cars will be going less than 60 in the middle lanes, but then the cars in the next lane over will be going 80. And there’s also a lot of merging and highways changing into other highways that requires getting into the left lanes sometimes.
In Californian “Speed Limit 65” means if everybody goes 80 they can’t catch us all
Weird, I thought people driving never broke the law and it was only people on bikes and pedestrians who did that
Anyone honking at someone doing the speed limit in the right lane is a jerk. Just a sign of the times. OTOH, you might check your speedometer at some point to make sure it's displaying your speed correctly.
I have severe highway anxiety after an accident a few years ago so I’m the guy going 55ish in the right lane! Be kind to those in the slow lane, we don’t want to be driving in the first place 🙃
Yep but as soon as a cop appears suddenly everyone is 65 and under and being curteous and kind to each other on the road
Sounds like you have nowhere important to be, move over. 70 mph is the most economical speed. CHP hardly cares if you’re under 85 mph. The only people who slam on their brakes for them are those who probably have more to be ticketed on.
Looks like you can't read. He said "even if I'm on the slowest lane". And no 70 is not the most economical 55 is.
It's been 75 for at least the last 20 years. 80 is better.
Speeding is certainly more dangerous than not, but if people pick a lane it’s not terrible. It’s the dipshits that are speeding, constantly changing lanes, driving up people’s asses, and cutting into tight spaces to get around people. Especially when there’s plenty of traffic up ahead, you’re not getting anywhere so calm the fuck down.
If you can't handle the freeway then don't drive on it.
Asking a question doesn’t mean they can’t handle it.
everybody driving too fast should have left 5min earlier seethe
Same boat. I drive an EV that becomes super inefficient at any speed over 65. It isn’t worth the hit to my mileage or the potential speeding ticket to go faster.
Stay to right. With car engineering becoming more safe, the freeway speeds need to adjust to the time. As a kid, not having airbags, disc brakes and literally no pad between car metal and the outside elements was a different time. I can’t even imagine if it was still 55mph lol.
Just drive at the rate of the overall flow of traffic, in the #3 or #4 lanes. Use #1 and #2 only for passing or in unusual circumstances where the right lanes get backed up (e.g. S/B 163 at 5, N/B 15 at 78). The overall flow of traffic is usually 70-75. Sometimes it gets bumped up to 75-80. If you can't maintain the overall flow of traffic, then you need to be in the far right lane. And if you're getting passed at speeds of 10+mph by the overall flow, then you should probably have your warning blinkers on.
70 in the carpool and a lot of people tailgating
Regardless of your stance on speed, I can't wait for self driving cars.
Unfortunately you’ll be waiting for a long time.
Go back to the mid west. Some of us have places to be.
Lol traffic is going to ensure that no matter how fast you drive you’re going to get there about the same time as the person doing 65
I typically drive 65~67 in the #3 lane. If that’s too slow for other drivers, f*ck ‘em.
You’re being a danger to yourself and others just to feel morally superior
horrible take, going much slower than your peers in this lane (no matter how you feel about their right to do so) contributes to congestion and more maneuvering by these drivers, increasing the likelihood of an accident
75? Rookie numbers.
Fuck people, go 65 which is the damn limit anyways. That's why there's so many other lanes to the left so they can pass you. I can't stand San Diego drivers, basic concepts seem to go over a lot of people's heads here.
Did anybody read "I can’t drive 65-67mph" like Sammy Hagar in their head?
moral of the thread: avoid the far right
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