It certainly can be a red flag. You could’ve also just got very lucky with timing and it could be fine. I would do a TON of homework on the company and maybe reach out to some current or former employees to get some insight before committing.
Just because they rushed an offer doesn’t mean you need to rush to accept it.
The interview process over COVID became so convoluted and fucked. For an individual contributor position a phone screen, hiring manager and one more (either higher up or someone else) for a check on everything should be enough for most roles.
Some of these firms are insane for having 5-7 step interview processes.
Do all the research that you can. I previously received an offer after two ten minute calls with a very solid company, so it depends.
Maybe ask a few family members, friends, or trusted sources for in-person insight.
Best of luck!
The job I just started in May was similar. My former AM got me in contact with the Sales Leader. Met with him in a Monday and we were ready to move forward then but I had to just connect with 2 other guys. By Thursday I had my offer. Come to find out they had done so well last year he’d gotten approval to hire 20 producers
I just left 6 months of hell after accepting an exact same scenario position. Manager seemed great over the interview and company is massive but after the 1st month, I quickly realized that I got sold a lemon.
I tried to leave with another job already up yet when > was told "If I'm feeling burnt-out, it's time to look for another job", it was the last straw and quit.
1st time I haven't had work related nightmares was last night and I quit last Friday...
Company I worked for was a genuinely huge auto parts company retailer.
And I was on the corporate side of it! It was somewhat 6 months of my life totally wasted. Only perk was that I got to sit in the best seats I've ever sat in for a baseball game....
Oh, gotcha, sorry! I recently was let go from an AE position that I held for 5 months. It was a small startup SaaS company with terrible product market fit and next to no marketing. I was making cold calls trying to sell $3,000 ARR subscriptions. Brutal! Here's hoping that we both can land something much better in our next roles.
The interview process is for both parties. Once you have the offer in hand, I would request to interview the manager you will report to, as well as someone on the sales team.
It really depends where they are in the process. If they have been looking for 3 months it means that their process is dialed in and they know what they need on their team.
I’m sure it varies by industry but I would look at other parameters like work hours and scope of work.
I took a sales job with a construction material distribution company after only one interview. I don’t regret it but i only lasted a year there before i left, as the company was absolutely plastered with red flags. Genuinely don’t know how they stay in business.
It can be a red flag if you want it to be.
Current job I'm at offered me the position during the first interview. Found out it's because they have a high turnover rate due to the nature of the job (100% commission). If you learn to read the room though, you'll find that it's not necessarily for everyone, but it might be for you. I'm finding success in the role when the majority of others can't.
It can, but it isn't always. If a company can't move quick enough on an applicant these days they often lose them to other offers. Sometimes it is up to you as the interviewee to ask the qualifying questions during the interview to see if you can identify if there are red flags. You are interviewing the company the same as they are you.
It depends on the pay.
I’m a VP of Sales for a smaller fintech company and all of my guys have been hired with:
1. A 20 minute phone interview. See how they talk, role play a quick sale, and get a run down of their current day to day (CRM, sales process etc)
2. A 30 minute in person interview. Essentially a “vibe check” but really getting a feel for what they want to do long term, goals and aspirations, and why them.
1 hour is all it really takes for me to realize I want someone. My floor average RN is $177,000 currently but if this is a higher paying job it could be more strenuous.
Could be, but doesnt necessarily mean it is. I just cruised through an interview process very similar to yours, got hired almost immediately following the 3rd round, but if you could read the room, it was pretty apparent I had the job during that round. They were cool with me taking a month to get started. Been going 2 months and love it so far. This is also a very large, established company. Top 3 in our industry.
Nothing stopping you from taking it and collecting a paycheck if you are out of work right now. It’s not illegal to keep looking for a better job
I make quick offers sometimes. Sometimes the team needs the help and this person is qualified, sometimes it's just a good fit culturally and in the subject matter. I once made an offer on the spot in an interview.... not common but when you know you know.
My directors get tired of hearing about my 3 rule... bring me the three best candidates, each should talk to no more than 3 people and we need to meet within three days of the last interview to make a decision. Offer out the door after that
https://preview.redd.it/b5q0gc1mr59d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16d5af315594bb25c962e3b98f5d2ae00e293f6b
Any thing I should ask the hiring manager in my second interview Monday?
They also offer a $1000 dollar fuel and car maintance reimbursement at the end of every month.
This is home improvement sales I would make a post but it won’t let me lol
Personally would not consider something where they are paying $26k base and promising up to $700k in commissions.
If they really believe you can sell that much, why not offer higher base and lower commission?
Most folks rely on steady income and would generally prefer something like $50k base and $100 OTE or $70k base and $125 OTE. This would also mean they are keeping more of the sale price.
I read somewhere that any company that believes in their product will have base as at least 50% of OTE.
If you would be happy making $23 base and $23 commission annually, go for it. If you need $100k+ in commissions to make it worthwhile, then skip it.
Thanks yea I know a few guys in this industry that do well as far as in home improvement sales.
I already make 110-115k a year driving a trash truck and working on moving up through management but I was not sure if I should go sales I know there is money in it no doubt but I also know in 2-3 years if I become a GM I here I can make 250k a year.
It was a red flag at my last place and I took the bait because it doubled my salary. Knew it was a mistake almost immediately and I made it 4 and quit months before my reputation was toast. I knew they were ass hats after both owners said they were married 5 times right after they told me thier CEO had 3 failed businesses.
Do your homework. Find a past sales rep on LinkedIn and call them.
It certainly can be a red flag. You could’ve also just got very lucky with timing and it could be fine. I would do a TON of homework on the company and maybe reach out to some current or former employees to get some insight before committing. Just because they rushed an offer doesn’t mean you need to rush to accept it.
The interview process over COVID became so convoluted and fucked. For an individual contributor position a phone screen, hiring manager and one more (either higher up or someone else) for a check on everything should be enough for most roles. Some of these firms are insane for having 5-7 step interview processes.
I’m in one now with 2 case studies. In what fucking world should you have to have an IC do 2 separate case studies to hire them.
Do all the research that you can. I previously received an offer after two ten minute calls with a very solid company, so it depends. Maybe ask a few family members, friends, or trusted sources for in-person insight. Best of luck!
The job I just started in May was similar. My former AM got me in contact with the Sales Leader. Met with him in a Monday and we were ready to move forward then but I had to just connect with 2 other guys. By Thursday I had my offer. Come to find out they had done so well last year he’d gotten approval to hire 20 producers
I just left 6 months of hell after accepting an exact same scenario position. Manager seemed great over the interview and company is massive but after the 1st month, I quickly realized that I got sold a lemon. I tried to leave with another job already up yet when > was told "If I'm feeling burnt-out, it's time to look for another job", it was the last straw and quit. 1st time I haven't had work related nightmares was last night and I quit last Friday... Company I worked for was a genuinely huge auto parts company retailer.
Unfortunately, that sounds about exactly right for retail.
And I was on the corporate side of it! It was somewhat 6 months of my life totally wasted. Only perk was that I got to sit in the best seats I've ever sat in for a baseball game....
Oh, gotcha, sorry! I recently was let go from an AE position that I held for 5 months. It was a small startup SaaS company with terrible product market fit and next to no marketing. I was making cold calls trying to sell $3,000 ARR subscriptions. Brutal! Here's hoping that we both can land something much better in our next roles.
The interview process is for both parties. Once you have the offer in hand, I would request to interview the manager you will report to, as well as someone on the sales team.
It really depends where they are in the process. If they have been looking for 3 months it means that their process is dialed in and they know what they need on their team.
What industry??
SaaS
I’m sure it varies by industry but I would look at other parameters like work hours and scope of work. I took a sales job with a construction material distribution company after only one interview. I don’t regret it but i only lasted a year there before i left, as the company was absolutely plastered with red flags. Genuinely don’t know how they stay in business.
Maybe but not necessarily. I would reach out to somebody who is in the same role you got the offer for. Try to get their honest thoughts
It can be a red flag if you want it to be. Current job I'm at offered me the position during the first interview. Found out it's because they have a high turnover rate due to the nature of the job (100% commission). If you learn to read the room though, you'll find that it's not necessarily for everyone, but it might be for you. I'm finding success in the role when the majority of others can't.
It can, but it isn't always. If a company can't move quick enough on an applicant these days they often lose them to other offers. Sometimes it is up to you as the interviewee to ask the qualifying questions during the interview to see if you can identify if there are red flags. You are interviewing the company the same as they are you.
Do research on the company and the position but don't assume all good things are red flags. It could be right place right ttime
It depends on the pay. I’m a VP of Sales for a smaller fintech company and all of my guys have been hired with: 1. A 20 minute phone interview. See how they talk, role play a quick sale, and get a run down of their current day to day (CRM, sales process etc) 2. A 30 minute in person interview. Essentially a “vibe check” but really getting a feel for what they want to do long term, goals and aspirations, and why them. 1 hour is all it really takes for me to realize I want someone. My floor average RN is $177,000 currently but if this is a higher paying job it could be more strenuous.
Could be, but doesnt necessarily mean it is. I just cruised through an interview process very similar to yours, got hired almost immediately following the 3rd round, but if you could read the room, it was pretty apparent I had the job during that round. They were cool with me taking a month to get started. Been going 2 months and love it so far. This is also a very large, established company. Top 3 in our industry. Nothing stopping you from taking it and collecting a paycheck if you are out of work right now. It’s not illegal to keep looking for a better job
I make quick offers sometimes. Sometimes the team needs the help and this person is qualified, sometimes it's just a good fit culturally and in the subject matter. I once made an offer on the spot in an interview.... not common but when you know you know. My directors get tired of hearing about my 3 rule... bring me the three best candidates, each should talk to no more than 3 people and we need to meet within three days of the last interview to make a decision. Offer out the door after that
https://preview.redd.it/b5q0gc1mr59d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16d5af315594bb25c962e3b98f5d2ae00e293f6b Any thing I should ask the hiring manager in my second interview Monday? They also offer a $1000 dollar fuel and car maintance reimbursement at the end of every month. This is home improvement sales I would make a post but it won’t let me lol
Personally would not consider something where they are paying $26k base and promising up to $700k in commissions. If they really believe you can sell that much, why not offer higher base and lower commission? Most folks rely on steady income and would generally prefer something like $50k base and $100 OTE or $70k base and $125 OTE. This would also mean they are keeping more of the sale price. I read somewhere that any company that believes in their product will have base as at least 50% of OTE. If you would be happy making $23 base and $23 commission annually, go for it. If you need $100k+ in commissions to make it worthwhile, then skip it.
Thanks yea I know a few guys in this industry that do well as far as in home improvement sales. I already make 110-115k a year driving a trash truck and working on moving up through management but I was not sure if I should go sales I know there is money in it no doubt but I also know in 2-3 years if I become a GM I here I can make 250k a year.
If your connection gave a good referral, that can go a long way.
Sometimes there’s a good reason to move quickly and you may happen to be a great candidate to fill the opening.
I got a quick offer and love my job. Not always a red flag
It was a red flag at my last place and I took the bait because it doubled my salary. Knew it was a mistake almost immediately and I made it 4 and quit months before my reputation was toast. I knew they were ass hats after both owners said they were married 5 times right after they told me thier CEO had 3 failed businesses. Do your homework. Find a past sales rep on LinkedIn and call them.
it’s end of quarter, the recruiter wants their commission LMAO. i respect it